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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 207
Registered: Mar-05
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Raj,

Your choices are:

1) Convert the PAL file on your PC using Adobe, TMPGEnc, VideoStudio or other similar software, then burn a DVD in NTSC(conversion will take quite a long time and the quality will degrade somewhat)

2) View your PAL DVD on a dual-standard TV (they do exist as mentioned elsewhere, and work very well)

3) View your PAL DVD on your NTSC TV through a dual standard CONVERTING video recorder (there is an Aiwa model, don't recall the number. It works quite well though)

4) Buy a magnifying glass and watch it on the camcorder display ;-)

I think that just about covers the options.

Regarding connecting to your computer, both PAL and NTSC should work fine. It's only when you get to TVs that the standard becomes important. Just use a standard firewire connection.

Cheers.
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 208
Registered: Mar-05
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kapt_KOBRA,

I think you need to give a bit more detail about what you are trying to achieve here. Please do so and I'll do my best to help.

Cheers.
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Username: Basu

Post Number: 4
Registered: May-05
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Hi Gromit,

Great to hear your very sincere opinion.
Actually, i am planning to buy a laptop. And, it will be great if you give me some suggestion for configuration of that, so that i can get the best quality of DVD burned.
By configuration, i mean, CPU Speed, RAM size, RPM of Hard Disk, hard disk size, like that.
And one moer thing, is it good to buy a laptop with a built in DVD writer or buy a seperate DVD burner. Which is preferrable?
And, i have one off teh track question, do you know whetehr using SONY TRV 22E, Can i record TV program?
Thanks in advance.

Rajib Basu
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have a Sony DCR-HC20E and am trying to copy Tapes to my PC. I am running XP, and have a USB cable running to a USB 2 Port. Xp did not automatically pick up the driver so I installed it fine. It now is seen in Imaging Devices. the software I am using is DV Plus 2.0 it is telling me it cant find a Camera installed. I have also tried other software such as AVID.. Same Problem. What am I missing??? Thanks for your time
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 211
Registered: Mar-05
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Rajib,

This is not my area of expertise, but basically, any new laptop is likely to have sufficient power to capture DV (this is the most tricky part as it happens in real time). Just make sure the HDD is at least 30G and preferably 7200 rpm. For DVD authoring, I'll recommend Ulead MovieFactory.

I might be inclined to go for an on-board DVD burner as it removes one additional complication.

Regarding the SONY, if it has "video in" (check your manual) then it can record TV. My Canon does this with no problem.

Cheers
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 212
Registered: Mar-05
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Sameed,

Is it possible that those programmes are looking for a firewire connected device? That is the interface normally used for DV capture.

Check the "video device" settings (I guess you have already done this) and also consider getting your PC firewire equipped. The cards are very cheap.

Cheers
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Gonna post a newbie question here if i can.

I have gone through all the hair pulling associated with USB - now I 'm reading the past recommendation to buy a Firewire card.

There is not a Firewire port on either of the two cameras I'm borrowing to try to download some Hi-8 footage(Sony TRV460 and Sony CCD-TRV608). Is there an adaptor that I can buy to place in the USB port?

I would like to give the guys at Sony a swift kick in their nether regions for all the aggravation heaped upon their unwary customers.

Can any of you wizards help with this?

Again sorry for the newbie question that probably gets asked a thousand times a month.
Mike M.
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Sid_d_gr8
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Dear berny\gromit\whomsoever

thanks for the previous advice.. Is the DV port\cable the 'firewire cable ' u r talking 'bout ???

Plus, will movie maker b good for transfer & burning VCDs ???

Siddhant
India
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 217
Registered: Mar-05
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Mike-o,

If you are in the market for some kind of adaptor, why not get a PCI video capture card and bypass the risks and complexities of USB? www.leadtek.com.

Post again if that doesn't suit you.

Cheers.
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Hello you all, i saw this posts today and i hope somebody can help me.
I have a problem transfering video from a pv-gs9 camcorder, the device seems to not be recognized by the computer although it is connected through usb and the device is on, in "dv studio mode".
i have tried on windows movie maker and InterVideo WinDVD Creator but the problem persists.
i am running windows xp sp2 on a laptop.
The device is recognized by the computer and a proper drive is automatically installed, with no error messages.
many thanks in advance, please email me if possible <saulss1@gmail.com>
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Hello Berny
u r great
now i know that doctors are not the only people who can help unknown people in distress thro net

request for a favour
problem is the same of transfering the video to pc from sony hc 30
can u tell if the fire wire will work

can we transfer the video to dvd formet and will the picture better
can we trasfer movie from one sony camera to another sony camera to make a copy
thanks
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Username: Project6

Post Number: 3077
Registered: Dec-03
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Dr. Baluja,
The firewire shoul dwork better for your sony to the pc.

You can transfer the video to the dvd format, however, the picture will only be as good as the source, so, simply putting it on dvd will not necessarily amke it better.

Gromit should have a better handel on your dilemma as he seems to be more knowledgeable about video transfer than I am.
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 220
Registered: Mar-05
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Dr. Baluja,

Berny is too kind (and probably incorrect!) in his praise.

As Berny says:
1) Firewire should be fine for transferring DV from your camcorder to your PC.
2) DVD quality depends on source quality. Actually, DVD (MPEG-2) is much more compressed than native DV, so normally, the quality will degrade a little. If you use decent software, this isn't normally a problem. Plus, of course, if you have time, you can "touch up" the video once transferred using video editing software.

plus
3) Camcorder to camcorder DV copying should be possible using a 4-pin to 4-pin firewire cable. I have successfully done it between JVC and Canon camcorders.

Cheers.
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Dear Gromit,

Reading through the post and I would think you might giving some advice or whatever, hopefully...
I am a new user of my Sony HC40E and I've come across way to transfer my recorded video into CD.
I am with WINXP with only USB cable for transfering for the time being for your info, and below are my doubts:

1- How can I transfer those video into PC before I actually burn into CD?
Sony Package software seems like no option to transfer into PC unless I used the Automatic Video Producer, but
this will be added sound and effect.

2- Will the Firewire resolve the performance issue?

3- I am thinking to have some editing on my video before I burn into CD, any suggestion in software?

4- I came across some wording like DVD or VCD or MPEG format in the post...what is main differences among them, is it the quality?

5- I am willing to learn, could you pls tell me any link to tutorial web site availble for a person like me to learn all about video making?

I'll pleased if I can get your advice or you can email to jiapei_2002@yahoo.com
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 222
Registered: Mar-05
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Jiapei,

1) I am not familiar with the Automatic Video Producer, but I can imagine that you would not want to have extra sound and effects automatically added. Is that what you are saying is happening? Read below in any case....

2) Firewire is normally the preferred method for high-performance video transfer from camcorder to PC. The transfer can be viewed as lossless (unless you are dropping frames).

3) Windows XP includes Moviemaker, which is OK; also you could use Ulead VideoStudio or Roxio VideoWave.

4) The video transferred from your camcorder (format name is "DV-25") can be viewed as having "top" quality. Next best is DVD, using MPEG-2. VCD, using MPEG-1, is the lowest quality. The file sizes give you a hint: 1 hour of DV is at around 12 GByte, 1 hour of DVD is around 4 GByte, 1 hour of VCD is around 600 MByte.

5) You can find out lots about the various pieces at: http://www.videohelp.com/

Post again if there are any other specific questions where you can't find the answers elsewhere.

Cheers.
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Anonymous
 
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i have a sony dcr-h21 & receiving message'usb invalid during easy handycam'. what does that mean?
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 223
Registered: Mar-05
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Anonymous,

The Amazon.com review of this camera has the following to say about easy handycam:
quote
Easy Handycam button
Using a camcorder can be intimidating for some people, so with a press of the easy Handycam button, most of the advanced features of the camcorder are locked out leaving only the buttons essential for recording operational
unquote

I guess the error message you are seeing indicates that connecting the camcorder to your computer with USB is one of those "advanced features" and is therefore invalid while the mode is invoked.

Hope that helps.
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Username: Fooman415

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jun-05
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I currently own a Sony DCR-TRV140 NTSC handy cam. I am using USB streaming and none of my pictures and video are coming out clear.

I am trying to get all the pictures off the tape

I am using Pixel Ver 1.0. The quality of the pictures is not so good.

Please help
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 224
Registered: Mar-05
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Chris,

Normally, the best and easiest way to get video off a camcorder into a PC is to use firewire. But USB should be OK for transferring stills, normally from a memory card.

Is firewire an approach you have considered?

Cheers.

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Hi Gromit,

Thanks for your reply.
I've brought the Firewire and just got it installed yesterday, now the transfer working better and easy to manage with the new software Ulead...

The www you suggested have lots of info specially for those beginer like me. Thanks a millions!

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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 235
Registered: Mar-05
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Jiapei,

Thanks for the feedback and glad everything is working. Always nice to hear that we've solved a problem!

Cheers.
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Username: Fooman415

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jun-05
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Thanks Gromit,

My camera does not have a memory card, it uses a tape. I am debating to get the firewire, due to the fact that the pictures could still be cloudy.
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 236
Registered: Mar-05
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Chris,

The older of my two DV camcorders also stores still pictures on tape, not very well, as it happens. From that camera, I have successfully transferred both moving video (at native DV quality) and stills using firewire.

Give it a go and let me know if it solves your problems.

Cheers.
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Username: Fooman415

Post Number: 3
Registered: Jun-05
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Gromit,

I got the fire wire and it went well

The quality is a little better, but the picture pixel size is too small. So I am getting a regular digital camera.

Thanks for your help.
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 242
Registered: Mar-05
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Chris,

Thanks for the feedback and glad the firewire went without a hitch.

You'll find that even a cheap digicam will comprehensively outperform even the most expensive camcorder for taking stills, so if that is your objective, you are exactly on the right path. I have adjusted to the pain of carrying two devices with me. But just as a tip, if our family gets another digicam, we'll probably go for a micro-sized one that can slip into the camcorder carry bag.

Cheers.
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s.markandan
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i want to download load from my handicam model no nv-v55 to pc and record in a cd
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Username: Bobby88

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jun-05
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Hey, has anyone got or knows where you can get a usb driver for the panasonic gs200 3ccd camcorder? I mislayed the cd and therefore can't transfer any video to my computer, your help would be most appreciated,

Thanks
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Hi all,

I have SONY DCR TRV 19 miniDV camcoder.Problem is when I capture video from miniDV to my laptop, the video gets transferred but save it as mpeg file. But when I play this file on computer it does not play AUDIO along with video
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 259
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Samir,

Are you using firewire or USB to transfer the video?

Have you checked that your capture programme shows the correct device/interface for capturing the audio?

Cheers.
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3mma
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I have a Sony HandyCam Vision video Hi8 recorder, CCD-TRV608, i have the USB cord and stuff, but what do i need to actually get the video off the camcorder to my PC?
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Samir
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Hi Gromit,

Thanks for your reply. I am using USB to transfer video. When I capture video it creates .mpeg file but when I play it, it does not have sound recorded during video. I am able to play same miniDV on TV and it plays nice with both audio/video.

Is it that USB can not transfer audio?
Problem is my laptop does not have firewire card and am looking for the one which can be plugged in easily.
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 265
Registered: Mar-05
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Samir,

Reading elsewhere on this page, you'll see that other users do successfully transfer video (which I take to include audio) using USB, although personally I am yet to be convinced about the quality you get with this method.

Your capture programme should allow you to specify "USB" for audio capture. Have you checked this?

Another thing you could try is changing your capture settings to your soundcard for audio and connect the audio that way. However, there is a risk that there may not be perfect synchronisation between audio and video if you do that.

By the way, firewire cards, packaged with software and cable, are pretty cheap.

It might also be worth you re-installing your capture programme and/or trying some others if you can't persuade the current set-up to work the way you wish.

Sorry I can't be more explicit, but I try to steer clear of USB for video normally.

Cheers.
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JUANITO PEREZ
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http://213.4.14.99

USBDRVEN.EXE
Sony DCR HC-30/HC-40
This utility installs a USB driver for connecting the camera to a computer and transfering files Model(s): MiniDV Handycam Camcorder.
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I Have a Canon ZR300 trying to transfer video to PC with Win XP Pro using firewire have tried every program on market and they all freeze anyone help PLEASE!!
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 297
Registered: Mar-05
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William,

What is the spec of your PC?

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Username: Photoman

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DEAR GROMIT,

I HAVE SONY DCR-H42 MODEL CAMCORDER WITH USB CABLE. MY PC IS WITH WIN 98 SE, 128MB RAM, 20GB HD, 4MB VIDEO RAM.

USING 'PICTURE PACKAGE' OF SONY, IF I TRANSFER VDEO FROM MINI DV TAPE TO PC, THE TRANSFERRED OUTPUT IS VERY JERKY WHEN PLAYED BACK.

HOW TO AVOID THIS JERK?

MY AIM IS TO CREATE VCDs OF MY VIDEO FILES FOR BETTER STORAGE.
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 305
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c.suresh,

I have addressed this question on the other page you posted.
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hey....i hav the same problem.
. "transferring video from handycam to pc"...
i dun even hav a software..so if u can tell me "wher can i get the sofware ..may be web site..:-)"
.i will b greatful if u did this for me .
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hi, I have a DCR - HC30E, everything is installed, but when i try to burn a VCD using the "Burn VCD" feature in the camcoder, it said ERROR and down it write "check the connected device"

I'm using a USB port (can't find a firewire), win XP.
please help!!
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Hi
I have a Sony DCR HC 40 digital videocam corder. I have PPA 4port IEEE1394 ( 400 mbps ) interface card installed in my computer. When I tried to connect my cam corder thru IEEE1394 cable to my PC The PC does not showup "new hard ware found" It is not reconizing my camcorder. I want create VCD and I have Ulead and Windows movie maker soft wares. My PC operating system is Windows XP with SP2.

I came to know that there is problem in SP2 firewire driver. I could not make it out, is problem lies in the operating system or my camcorder IEEE1394 port or IEEE1394 PPA Interface card.

Any suggestions ....
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 399
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pkumar,

This is my complete “connection problems” debugging cookbook, mostly my own work but thanks to Chico and Berny who also contributed:

1) Disconnect USB and just use the firewire cable to connect your camera to your PC. Most cameras use only firewire for video and USB for stills. Having the USB connection present might possibly cause a problem
2) If by any chance you have TWO types of firewire interface in your PC (one built-in, one PCI/PCMCIA card), physically remove the external card, and try connecting to the in-built port. If still no good, check in Device Manager that the internal device is OK. If you were using a PCI/PCMCIA card because of problems with an in-built card, make sure the in-built device is really disabled.
3) If you are using a laptop with built-in firewire, try to get your hands on a PCMCIA firewire card and use that instead as an experiment. This fixed the problem for one user with a Sony laptop. Make sure you disable the in-built device when doing this.
4) Play around a bit to make sure there is no “sequence” issue affecting you. By this I mean experimenting with turning the camera on before, or during the capture programme running. Please make sure to only physically plug the firewire cable in to the camcorder when (at least) the camcorder is turned off. JVC have stated that plugging in the firewire cable when the camcorder is switched on can damage the camcorder's DV port.
5) Look in Device Manager to check if both your 1394 controller and camcorder are present and correct. The 1394 controller should show up the whole time. The camcorder should show up when you connect it and turn it on, then disappear when you turn it off.
6) If you have any doubts about your firewire card, debug as follows: Turn off your camcorder and unplug it from the computer. Remove/uninstall the firewire on your device manager. Restart the computer, wait until windows re-installs the firewire. Re-start again, then wait until the pc is booted up completely. With your camcorder still switched off, plug it in using firewire, then power it on.
7) If your camera has a socket for a memory card, fit one. One JVC owner I corresponded with said this fixed his problem (and was advice from JVC, by the way)
8) Disconnect all other peripherals (especially USB) in case they are confusing your PC. Just a hunch.
9) Re-instal your capture software.
10) Re-download and re-install your capture software
11) Try a different capture software, e.g. Moviemaker from Microsoft if you use XP, Ulead VideoStudio or Roxio Videowave (my favourite)
12) Think whether have you recently installed any new applications, or upgraded any applications? RealPlayer is one application I have found to conflict with Windows XP wizards
13) Think about whether you have installed any hardware that might be causing a conflict. Not a very common problem these days but still a possibility. Check via Device Manager.
14) Try connecting your camera to a friend's PC and vice versa to work out, through a process of elimination, where the problem lies. Remember that capture will only work if the camera, cable, firewire card and PC are all OK.
15) If you are running XP SP2, please refer to this Microsoft patch: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=CA0F2007-18B5-4112-8BD6 -8BF4BD3130B9&displaylang=en And if you are completely stuck, then this interesting - and potentially dangerous - discussion about XP SP2 might be of interest to you. This fix was written prior to the release of the Microsoft patch so it might now be obscelent. DO NOT try this unless you are confident that you can back up important data and/or Ghost your OS before starting. Exercise extreme care if you follow this route - and PLEASE do let me know if it works.

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/bbs/t106716.html
16) If you are using a JVC camcorder, try to use a firewire card with a TI chipset. There is some doubt about JVC camcorders working with non-TI firewire cards (even though mine does no problem)


Hope that somewhere in this list I hit the nail on the head. Please let me know what eventually fixes it so I can keep enhancing this knowledge base for the benefit of other users.

Cheers.
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I have the NEW JVC GR D-290 camcorder bundled with Cyberlink Power Director 3 and allegedly all the drivers I need. No need for Firewire , apparently usb connection is all I need. So far I have been able to access the still images on the memory card but my computer will not see the camera for moving images.
A quirk, by the way, is that it will not even see the memory card unless you are using mains not battery.
It must be a driver problem but I received no instructions and as per most users above I was told that it would be all automatically installed!!
Has anyone sucessfully used the new JVC Grd290 or 270 to transfer streaming video via uSB. I might be doing something completely stupid.
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 402
Registered: Mar-05
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JVC-frustrated,

I can't give you the info you want, but you may find this post from a sister page interesting:

"Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 06:25 pm:
I just purchased a JVC GR-D270U and have been unsuccessful in getting a USB connection to transfer video. The manual clearly provides connection instructions for both USB and Firewire for the purpose of transferring video from the DV tape. I called JVC and was instructed that I needed to buy a firewire card, a cable, and third party software before I could transfer video. I told them what the manual states. They told me they were sorry but the unit will not work on USB."

URL: http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/8691/4356.html

Hope that helps somehow. Post again if you need to and I won't reply so that other contributors may pick it up.

Cheers.
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Dear Gromit,

If I do a camcorder to camcorder DV copying - from JVC GR-DV500 (NTSC) to Sony TRV27 (PAL) - using a firewire cable, will the NTSC format be transformed into PAL automaticly?
Thank you in advance.
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 420
Registered: Mar-05
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Stan,

I wish I could answer "yes", but unfortunately it doesn't work like that. But you do have a quite good solution at your disposal that will keep the footage in the digital domain:

1) upload your NTSC footage to your computer using firewire (your computer won't care about NTSC or PAL).

2) using Ulead VideoStudio or some similar video editing programme, output to DV PAL (just choose the PAL option at the output stage)

3) Either burn a PAL DVD using an authoring programme, or export the footage to the PAL DV camcorder to store on tape.

Funnily enough, I tried the conversion just yesterday and it seems to work OK.

Hope that helps.
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Thanks a lot, Gromit.
My only concern is if the quality of the record will remain the same after the conversion from NTSC to PAL or it will be significantly worse?
Did you notice sth like that after your conversion?
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 423
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Stan,

I did notice more interleaving distortion ("combing") on the converted file (I converted PAL to NTSC) but I believe that is a PC playback effect and would not remain a problem once the file was converted into a video DVD (or exported back to DV tape). Apart from that, the two versions were very similar in quality, which I have to say surprises me. Of course, theoretically, the quality has to deteriorate. But if you are going to do it, keeping it all digital has to be the best option.

Cheers.
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Hi
I have a sony TRV260. The pictur quality is very poor. May be something wrong in setting. can anyone tell me what will be the perfect parameter? Pls. mail me jiba_123@hotmail.com
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Dear Gromit,
I have a Sony DCR TRV 285E Pal D8 Handycam. My PC is PIV, winxp sp1 OS. I am using USB for capturing video and Ausio.It is working fine if I capture it in Hard disk. But when I try Burn-VCD feature the software supplied with Sony, i.e. PIXELA and Image fails to show my CDRW device (Target Drive and Speed of the Target Drive is blank and it is a drop -down box so can't be written like drive path) and although I put new blank CD-R as per the manual.
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Username: Gromit

Post Number: 430
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Amarish,

Sorry, I am not familiar with Pixela software, so I can't help you with that question. However, I will advise you to use firewire if your camcorder supports it. Buy a card for you PC as required.

By the way, if you can get decent quality on your HDD, could you perhaps use a proprietary VCD authoring programme such as Nero VisionExpress to make the VCD?

Cheers.

Cheers.