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Thread: Harmony SST-659 Internet Powered Remote Control Review |
    
Brian Mitchell |
| Posted on Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 01:38 am: |
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Harmony SST-659 Internet Powered "Family" Remote Control
What makes a remote control good? You won't get the same answer from everyone. Although, the Harmony SST-659 comes as close to perfect as I have seen from any universal remote control to date. 
Many buttons, simple design
Harmony calls the SST-659 a "Family Remote". But don't be fooled by the name. Yes, it is simple enough for any family member, but is still packed with features for the hardcore hobbyist. Every button is clearly labeled and arranged logically for ease of access. Most importantly, each button does exactly what it is supposed to do.
Step 1: Setup
It all starts with the configuration. Straight out of the box, the Harmony will not control anything. You must first go to the Harmony Website, create your custom account, and connect the remote to your computer via supplied USB cable. The website guides you through an interactive questionnaire. Your responses indicate the brand and model number of each device you want to control and how they should work together. Once complete, your custom configuration is automatically saved online and downloaded into your remote. The whole setup takes thirty minutes to an hour to complete.
Point and click
Now your remote is ready to be used. Just aim your remote at your TV/components and presto – everything comes up with the touch of one button. You don't need to teach the remote any complicated macros. The Harmony already knows what to do. Most importantly, Volume Up/Down and Channel Up/Down always work and control the correct component.
Built-in macros
There are three colored "activity" buttons at the top of the SST-659, labeled with the most common tasks -- 1) Watch a Movie 2) Watch TV 3) Listen to Music. The learning curve is next to nothing with these straightforward commands. A fourth button, "More Activities", lets you define your own custom activities.
LCD display adds pizzazz
A three-line LCD screen tells you which "activity" is on and displays dynamic menu options. Extra commands can be executed by pressing one of three vertical buttons that correspond to each line on the display. The LCD screen not only offers access to less commonly used commands, but can also display a TV program guide. If you are familiar with Harmony's first remote, these three buttons on each side of the LCD replace the scroll wheel functionality.
Feels good
At first the 51 buttons on the SST-659 can appear overwhelming. However, you will find the buttons are logically grouped together. In addition each grouping of buttons has a unique shape, which make them easy to locate by feel. Even in the dark, I had no problems operating the remote in one hand without looking at it. If necessary, all buttons can be backlit for easy viewing.
Numbers make a difference
The SST-659 is even easier to use than the original. Not that there was much to complain about. One of the biggest differences between the two is the newer SST-659 incorporates a numbered keypad to change channels, while the original required you to look at the LCD screen and select channels with a, sometimes cumbersome, scroll wheel. Personally, I think the numbers make it quicker to change channels, as long as you can memorize what they are.
Pick a show
Instead of selecting channels by number, you can also select channels by TV show. The LCD screen can display three shows at a time. Pressing the button next to the show automatically changes the channel. The "Next" button allows you to page through the entire guide. This is a nice feature, and certainly adds a coolness factor, but I still found myself using the on-screen DirecTV guide instead. If you prefer the remote's TV guide, you will have to download the latest program guides twice a month from the Harmony website.
Personal touch
The SST-659 covers just about ever base, but occasionally something can go wrong. 99% of the time it's because of user mis-configuration during the internet setup. Accurately entering in all data correctly is vital to making it work perfectly. You can adjust or tweak settings as often as you want from the website. Plus you can teach it any command from any infrared remote. If needed, any button can control whatever you want.
Help button to the rescue
Everyone makes mistakes. Maybe you pressed a button by accident or didn't point the remote at your equipment. Either way, there is a yellow "Help" button to get you back on track. It prompts you to answer a series of questions on the LCD screen to confirm each component is "On" and the correct inputs are selected. A few answers later, and you are back in business!
One touch off
Just as easily as everything comes on, another button labeled "OFF" quickly turns off all components with one touch. It doesn’t get an easier than that.
We have a winner
The Harmony SST-659 definitely lives up to its reputation as a remote that's easy enough for the whole family. The SST-659 is ergonomic, straightforward to configure and the least complicated remote I have used at any price. Harmony, once again, sets a new standard for universal remote controls. It's simple enough for the techno-challenged, versatile for everyday use and still capable of meeting the needs of a power user.
Harmony SST-659
MSRP: $199 Check Prices
http://www.harmonyremote.com
Pros
Ergonomic
All buttons backlit
No complicated macros
Teach any button to do anything
Easy Internet Configuration
Logical button layout
Cons
1-2 month AAA battery life
No XML customizations available
Remember I am just one man with one opinion. If you own this product, or have a comment or question feel free to add your thoughts below.
Brian Mitchell
Founder & CEO
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Todd in CA Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 02:26 pm: |
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I just got mine yesterday from Etronics. WOW! I was concerned about the "activity" based format, and of a couple reviews that implied the build quality wasn't very solid. These concerns turned out to be without merit, as the remote is well made, and by far the best universal remote I've ever used.
The website is more intuitive and functional than their "test drive" leads one to believe, and is extremely easy to use. I own an MX-5-- and MX-700, both of which I've struggled with for tens of hours to program. In 30 minutes at my computer, the Harmony is more functional than either MX ever was, and FAR more intuitive.
Highly recommended! |
candymanaz Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 03:59 pm: |
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I got mine a couple days ago.
I have spent about 4 hours programming it.
Along with 2hours on the phone with support.
Support was great, and it finally works like it should.
Of course, I have 5 devices I am controlling, so I didn't expect out of the box performance.
I still think it's a little buggy, but better than handling 5 remotes. |
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| Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 08:04 pm: |
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As a installer I will never purchase Harmony remotes due to the fact that you can purchase them at DEALER COST on line! Installers can't make money with product that is not controlled by the manufacturer!Harmony has unleashed a monster and can care less! |
Moderator Username: Admin
Post Number: 111
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 12:19 am: |
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LOGITECH HARMONY REMOTE BULLETIN
NEW FIRMWARE: Firmware version 2.5 resolves excessive battery drain
The Logitech Harmony Remote Team is pleased to announce the release of Firmware version 2.5 for H659, H688 & H655 (EU version). This latest firmware has been released to resolve the following issue:
Excessive Battery Drain: The unit displays “Replace Batteries” within 7–10 days of inserting fresh batteries.
Important Note: If your Harmony remote displays “Replace Batteries” within 5 days of inserting fresh batteries, then this firmware upgrade will not resolve the issue and you will need to return your remote for replacement under warranty.
To download the latest firmware, go to the Harmony Member website : http://members.harmonyremote.com
Enter your login ID and password, and click Login .
1) Click Support from your Harmony home page.
2) Click Firmware Updates.
3) Follow the online instructions.
For complete support of your Logitech Harmony remote, please contact the Logitech Harmony Support Team at 1-866-291-1505, (Monday through Friday 9 A.M. to 10 P.M. or Saturday and Sunday 12 P.M. to 6 P.M. Eastern Standard Time for assistance).
- The Logitech Harmony Team |
Christopher-P Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 02:26 pm: |
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Re: anonymous "As a installer I will never purchase Harmony remotes due to the fact that you can purchase them at DEALER COST on line! Installers can't make money with product that is not controlled by the manufacturer!Harmony has unleashed a monster and can care less!"
What an idiot. As an installer you should be getting paid for your installation services, however mediocre they are, not price gouging your customers. It's people like you that drive the D.I.Y. market. Thank God I don't have to buy this product from an idiot like you. |
Bronze Member Username: Rlschneck
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Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 11:56 am: |
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i've looked at the picture of this remote and i don't see "skip" buttons. you know, the buttons that either skip to the next scene on the dvd player or skip to the next track on the cd player. there are only rw and ff buttons. can this remote still perform the skip functions, and if so, how??
thanks! |
Moderator Username: Admin
Post Number: 135
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 01:08 pm: |
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Any button can be re-assigned to do any function. |
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| Posted on Monday, November 01, 2004 - 10:55 am: |
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In fact, the Channel Up/Down get automatically assigned the Chapter Next/Previous function for my DVD player. |
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| Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 08:07 pm: |
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I love this remote! I wish I had gotten it sooner... all the daily things I do w/ my entertainment center are now just one click away. took a while to setup to get it working flawlessly, but it was time well spent. |
An0nym0us Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 12:58 am: |
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Love it. But it eats AAA batteries at a rate of 4 per week. Even with Firmware 2.5. So I am trying 2.6.
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 10:02 am: |
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Has any one used this remote with Scientific Atlanta DVR cable boxes? Are all functions supported? How a bout Onkyo surround receiver with separate on/ off buttons? I am currently using my Onkyo receiver remote but with the learning function, the DVR/cable commands double unless you tap the button quickly. |
mjreier Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 11:08 am: |
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Great remote but battery usage is incredible. this thing is blasting through 4 batterys every 5 days and Im never home to use it. Per the post above, I just left a message with warranty support. I will let you all know how it goes. |
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| Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2005 - 05:03 pm: |
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Just purchased one and WE LOVE IT! It does EXACTLY what I bought it for. It lets me control pretty much every feature of my home theatre system without sitting with 4 different remotes in my lap, and it lets my wife watch TV, a movie, and/or listen to music without getting completely frustrated. It recognized all of my (fairly new) components with no problem.
The setup was not completely straight-forward (could have been a little easier) but the results are well worth the tinkering it takes.
What is really nice is that my sister, who is visiting for the week and is COMPLETELY non-technical, was able to learn how to use my system in about 10 seconds. I told her to "push the 'Watch TV' button to watch TV, then push 'Off' to turn everything off". How much simpler can it get??? |
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| Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 03:42 pm: |
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I'm considering purchasing this remote, but wondered if I'd still be able to access the Guide on my DVR (which is through Cable and also how we access high definition). I haven't been able to find this information out, even on very detailed sites. The guide not only shows what's on TV, but enables us to record to the DVR.
Does anyone have a set-up like this or any information on it?
Thanks! |
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| Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 11:38 am: |
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You want the Harmony 676 or 688. These models are better designed for use with DVR, TIVO and the like. While the 659 can control these devices, I think the other models have hard buttons dedicated to them (i.e. "DVR Record", etc.) |
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| Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 11:42 am: |
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Battery life can be dramatically extended by turning off the backlighting... I've had my remote since December and haven't replaced the batteries yet. |
Inquiring mind Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 06:52 pm: |
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i was just wondering if its a good idea to just take the batteries out? I just got the thing today and i see no way to turn off the LCD when its not in use.. soo should i just take my batteries out at night and things like that? |
StephenAshforth Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 06:11 am: |
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I have the H655 and I couldn't be happier with it. I am still on my original batteries after 2 months. Switching off the automataic back lighting will probably have helped.
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New member Username: Mrr275
West Nayck,
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| Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 01:06 am: |
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Setting up my Harmony 659 and I discovered that my Kenwood VR-510 is RF controlled unless I attach an external IR Receiver. Of course, Kenwood has discontinued their IR-9991. So, now I am on the prowl for a solution. It appears I may be able to use ChannelVision or Xantech products, except they are 12V DC powered and the VR-510 manual states that the "IR Rcvr IN" is 8V DC, 17mA. Don't think I need a connecting block since I'm not driving IR Emitters. Anyone have some background and feel for these IR products?
B/t/w - my VR-510 also appears to suffer from the posted VR-507 (& many other models) problem of it's remote not working. Next step is to pull the A/V Rcvr apart to resolder the suspect contacts.
Just another one of my "money pits". |
New member Username: Deluvia
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| Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 03:49 pm: |
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Hi Mike,
Did you ever get your Harmoney 659 / Kenwood VR-510 problem solved? I have a Kenwood VR-4090 and just bought a Harmony 890, and I have the exact same problem. I am looking at the Xantech 172-94/RP - from the specs I've read, it sounds like it could make my receiver compatible to the remote. Any advice? |
Gold Member Username: Wingmanalive
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| Posted on Wednesday, July 04, 2007 - 05:47 pm: |
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It's been a year and a half man. Mike is probably no longer with us lol. |
New member Username: Splodge
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| Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2008 - 01:51 pm: |
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The Harmony 688 is now available for £65 in the UK! http://www.electronics.bestbuyfor.me.uk/home-entertainment/remote-controls/logit ech__harmony-688.aspx |
