Archive through August 22, 2004

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Username: Myrantz

Post Number: 500
Registered: Aug-04

Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 11:33 pm:

Thanx guys.

John, if you look hard you can see the little fan on top of the 7300. It is winter here and there's no need to have it on. I know the center speaker placement is not ideal. It was aligned with the mains when sitting on the older RP TV. But, with its situation now the sound timbre difference is very negible and the WAF is taken into account.

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Username: John_a

Post Number: 1971
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 12:04 am:

MR,

Yes, I see the fan. Nice-looking system; it means business. I can't see what else you can do with a center speaker. Apart from imaging and all the discussions we have had, a center speaker really ought to be on-axis with the center of the TV. In that case it either obscures the picture, or the TV muffles its sound. I wonder what the inventors of 5.1 thought you should do with it! I still have the turntable habit of trying to keep the electronics as far from the speakers as possible, so I cannot really get my system all in one frame, unless I take the ceiling off. It is a pleasure to see that Mrs Rantz is happy with covers off speakers, also that Ghia seems to have no problem with that.

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Username: Myrantz

Post Number: 502
Registered: Aug-04

Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 01:47 am:

John A

The covers only come off for serious music listening! Glad you knew what negible meant - I can't believe I was that negligent - what the eyes don't see sometimes!

BTW: nice of you not to comment on the obvious latest excess. The PDP is excellent, but was not supposed to happen for another year or so - it's appearance now is a long story. Anyway, we are well and truly done, there is no more money for anything audio or video (with the exception of software of course). Bit sad really, though now there's nothing left to consider except the enjoyment - for many, many years I hope.

I await images from yourself and Kegger! Don't worry about getting it in one frame. Cheers!

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Username: Ghiacabriolet

NC

Post Number: 233
Registered: Apr-04

Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 06:36 pm:

JohnA,

Thanks for the tip! It never would have occurred to me to turn my speakers "upside down" and I was skeptical it would make a difference. Surprise! It did. It sounds "tighter"...perhaps that means improved imaging?

MR,

Nice setup! What kind of speakers/sub do you have? BTW, I picked up the Doobies Capt & Me based on your recommendation. I'm starting to see a trend....highly recommended DVD-A's jinx my Denon. Like the Beck DVD-A, this one plays the first track and then starts spinning and causing hard vibrations in the Denon. Guess, I'll have to take it back for exchange. The replacement Beck disc works great so hopefully, this will be the case with the Doobies too.

Also picked up Eagles "Hotel California" and REM "Best of" DVD-A's. Eagles sounds pretty good, especially the title track. Haven't listened to REM yet.

Right now, listening to a stream of Tift Merritt's new cd "Tambourine". Sounds great, so far! Has a cool retro, rock & soul sound.

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Username: Ghiacabriolet

NC

Post Number: 235
Registered: Apr-04

Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 09:17 am:

Move over Loretta, Tift is in the house! Looks like this may be my favorite release of 2004! Tift Merritt is awesome! If you like a good rock & soul, R&B or whatever you want to call it, this is right up your alley.

Yesterday, I bought her first cd "Bramble Rose" because the new one hasn't been released yet. It is alt-country in the vein of Gram Parsons/Emmylou Harris. Recommended if you like that style of music.

But, the new one "Tambourine" is a major departure. Definitely more rocking and soulful. If I were making a Tift Martini, I'd start with a little Dusty Springfield, mix in some Carole King, add a drop of Emmylou and Wilson Pickett and a twist of Tom Petty and serve up in a glass rimmed in Muscle Shoals.

Tift Merritt

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Username: Myrantz

Post Number: 503
Registered: Aug-04

Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 06:14 pm:

Ghia

Sorry to hear that the "The Captain And Me" was problematic on your 2200. I had precisely the same thing happen with an old (but new rental release) of a Dudley Moore DVD movie called "Crazy People." It must be a software glitch which ony effects some players. Hopefully, a replacement DVD-A will remedy your problem, because TCAM is a great recording (IMO).

BTW: I like the color matching of your MA's to your cabinet! Also, what is that unit sitting in the bottom of your cabinet?

The speakers in our set-up are as follows:

Mains - JBL XTi60's, these are 3 way, Danish made with French made drivers. Even though these are really floorstanders, I have them on stands because of the close proximity of a sofa on one side of the room.

Center - B&W LCR6 series 2, I think it would be difficult to find a better center for the money (@75% of retail).

Rears - JBL S3611's, wall mounts.

Sub - Richter Krakatoa (Aussie made) - only 100 watts, 10in driver, but very powerful and accurate. double front ports.

Tiff Merrit has a great voice. I listened to a couple of tracks from her website, but a bit too country for me - I'll look out for 'Tambourine" as what you described sounds more like my flavour.

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Username: Ghiacabriolet

NC

Post Number: 236
Registered: Apr-04

Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 07:58 pm:

MR,

The speakers are a Rosewood Mahogany while the cabinet is a cherry finish. The speakers are actually a little bit darker but they seem to complement the cabinet. More importantly, they sound great!

That bottom unit is my old Toshiba DVD player. I'm using it to provide "height" to the Monster Power Center to help hide all the power cables coming in the back of the cabinet. lol.

The new Tift Merritt cd has a couple of songs with a little bit of a country sound but it is more a rock and soul record. I'm currently getting the streams saved via a neat little utility called Wiretap. I can rip you some MP3 samples if you'd like to hear it. Can you receive files via email?

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Username: Myrantz

Post Number: 505
Registered: Aug-04

Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 10:01 pm:

Ghia,

"More importantly, they sound great!" - I bet they do, those MA's have a great rep.

Thanks but don't worry about sending the MP3 samples. When I see the release in my local record shop, I'll give it a good listen.

I hope there's not too many flawed discs around that affect these Denon players, but I think most brands suffer similar problems. I recall some discs just refused to play or were problematic on our Luxman and Yamaha DVD players where they had no problems played on other machines.

Also, I just read about the new Denon DVD-3910. A bit dearer than the 2900, but what a machine - see news item August 12 at http://www.homecinemachoice.com for info if interested.

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Username: Ghiacabriolet

NC

Post Number: 238
Registered: Apr-04

Posted on Monday, August 16, 2004 - 09:24 pm:

That Denon looks like a monster! Thanks for the link!

I've listened to Tambourine driving in the car today and it is still highly recommended. It's a good driving record.

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Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 1214
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 03:09 am:

ok my area is not clean nor anywhere near finished but
here is some pic's!

this is as wide a front shot as i can get.

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Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 1215
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 03:12 am:

hear the main used components and the se-40 amp.

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Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 1216
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 03:14 am:

my listening/viewing area.

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Username: John_a

Post Number: 1987
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 06:51 am:

Kegger, Great. This guy is serious about sound. Love the tube pre-amp. Is that THREE center speakers...? Man, you've just got to get a nice turntable....

What revelations. I am willing to contribute, my main embarrassment being our TVs (old and ugly 3:2 Sony Trinitron CRTs).

I think we can begin to calibrate the WAF scale, already, using Ghia's and Kegger's set-ups as full-scale and zero, respectively....

Re speakers I would put some soft, wall-hanging material behind the mains (MR; Ghia) to cut down reflections. Especially from that bare brick wall, MR, though I grant that it looks nice as it is. Kegger will not have a problem with reflections, but those enclosures may cause some problems. Then, in all three cases, I would rotate the main speakers about the vertical axis, at least 30� in, so that their horizontal axes (from the front) intersect just in front of the listener. I am pretty sure all three set-ups will give better stereo positioning and imaging that way. Also, you will get better high frequencies, probably. As they stand, you are all most likely listening some way off the tweeter axis, and the frequency response falls off sharply with angle between that and the line to the listener. It is not a big operation to rotate the speakers, and easily reversed if you do not like it. I do not know what speakers pointing in does to the WAFactor. Perhaps they look less neat. That will tend to have less impact in Kegger's set-up, I feel....

This is intrusive, sorry, but you guys are presumably asking for comments! I shall see what I can do to provide you with an opportunity for return criticism. I note J. Vigne has not contributed to this thread. I would be interested to know his views.

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Username: Myrantz

Post Number: 522
Registered: Aug-04

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 07:18 am:

Kegger,

Wow - a regular audio studio. Very serious indeed. There would be some great sounds emanating from there. And from the audio gear also :-)

Those valves should be glowing! Come on - turn it up my man! Great stuff.

John A,

You may have noticed but our mains are turned in. It is a compromise however: Home theartre set-up tips suggest to have mains facing directly forward for more than one listener and inward for one (?). For audio only, I agree, facing in is preferable for me. However, I prefer the intersection a few feet behind. The brick walls seem to create no real problem, but I have not tried hanging heavy material - and nor will I. It is all compromise to the extent that our system does sound very good to us under all audio formats - could it be better: quite possibly. But if it did not please - and our decor would need to suffer then suffer it would. And your suggestions are not intrusive at all. But we are waiting :-)

Sem

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Username: Sem

New York
USA

Post Number: 216
Registered: Mar-04

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 08:31 am:

I'm impressed with everyone's setup to say the least. John A. good idea about the soft material behind the mains, if fact I need to do that as well. The only other comment I would add is the Labatts placement: move them to the side so as not to cause sonic deflections but also, there's not nearly enough of them. :-)

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Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 1218
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 09:59 am:

john cmon buddy give me some credit would yu.

at least ask me!

yes the speakers are turned in to just in front of
"my" listening position.

and they are not inside the speaker cutout in the
entertainment center.
the cutouts are just for looks. the speakers are pulled out from there.

RANTZ i'm just as upset as you. i tried taking pic's with no lights on.
but got no picture just black. so when you turn the lights on.
whala no glowing tubes.

trust me there on!

did you guys see the blue light in front of the amp?
that's my little touch, it was green!

and john that's my klipsch rc-7 center on top "angled down of course"
http://www.klipsch.com/product/product.aspx?cid=365&section=specs
then the other one underneath the tv is the second klipsch center.
that only comes on when serious movie viewing needs it.
then a second set of front speakers are added also.

the third speaker which i guess could look like a
center is my front sub.
there are others off to the sides and behind.

right now i am in bulding and tweaking mode. otherwise
that part of the basement is usually kept nice.

John Jacob Jinglehimerschmidt

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Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 1219
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 10:09 am:

also in case anyone was wondering.

the big jbl towers are modified to match the timbre
of the klipsch center "the big one".

the jbl's have the same tweeter as the center "very slightly horn loaded"
new mids and the xover has been redone to do the rest of the matching.

and quite frankly i am very proud of my handy work.
from the outside you can't tell their modded but
on the inside some very exstensive cabinet and xover work.

sometimes i'm shocked and amazed at the sound they reproduce.
they go down to about 35hz flat and reach out to over 20k
with those klipsch tweeters. and the sens is about 92db "just right for tubes" whoohoo

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Registered: Aug-04

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 10:35 am:

I stand corrected. Nice setup Kegger. I guess you do know what your doing.

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Username: John_a

Post Number: 1989
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 11:10 am:

Sorry, Kegger, I was blinded by all the gear! I should have known you better! Yes, the front sub also had me fooled.

Mr Rantz,

Ok, we have an issue, here! It is all to do with phasing, and I have bored the pants off everyone, before, with that. I do not buy the "home theater set-up tips". For stereo, anyone listening needs to be at the apex of the triangle with the speakers at the other corners, and pointing straight at the listener. That is the ideal, but there is only one listening spot and you are not allowed to move your head. A good alternative, and one which allows multiple listeners, is to bring that apex forward, so it is in front of each listener, which means the speakers are angled in even more. You can actually have them pointing in at 45 � and then there are a whole load of places to sit and still get good imaging. Even more at 60 �, but you may then begin to notice the high frquency tail-off because you may be getting seriously off-axis with the tweeters. You'll still get good imaging, though, and over a large area.

For HT, I think we may, finally, have found the reason for the center channel- that is, people cannot focus on the virtual center, because they have their speakers forward-facing, and are sitting inside the stereo triangle, so the center is not in focus. So they need that darned center speaker.

I have taken a few snaps and will see if I can upload them later.

I fully understand about that nice brick wall. It was also generous of you not to say "mind you own flamin' business"!

Maybe the Lone Ranger will show up to rescue me from this tight spot I have got myself into. If he turns the silver bullets on me, I am out-gunned, and may just wave a white flag.

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Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 1221
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 12:00 pm:

JOHN I'm sure you took it that way. but my response
to your was not a scold but mearly to let you know
the pictures don't quite grasp the angles.

and while i agree on the speakers being toed in.
if you have read many speaker manufacters they will
tell you best placement for imaging and some by design
work better straight forward.and some speakers just
plain image better than others and don't need to be toed in
or at least not as far as others.

so experimentation is the best suggestion. i've moved
mine all around to find what is best for mine.

but generally toed in somewhat is the preferred way! "for stereo imaging"

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Username: Myrantz

Post Number: 523
Registered: Aug-04

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 12:16 pm:

John A

Mind your own flamin' business!

He he ha ha ho ho!

There's no issue here at all my fastidious friend! I understand what you are saying (and have read your phasing articles) and agree with the exception that speakers need to point directly at (or in front of) the listener. You are theorizing ideals and I accept that, but real world conditions apply. We have 2 listening positions (a)SERIOUS LISTENING: the sofa directly in front of A/V gear and (b) HAPPY HOUR(S): sitting at the bar to the rear and other side of the room (cd's only).

The compromise works well for both listening areas and my laziness (moving speakers). And the bar position usually requires much less accuracy anyway as time goes on.

I have had the main speakers facing directly forward and still found the imaging very good and with virtual center very much in focus. I find having the apex just behind me at triangle center works just fine also. Next week it could be elsewhere, who knows, I may experiment some more.

Call upon the masked man if you like, but I don't listen with his ears.

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Username: John_a

Post Number: 1992
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 01:16 pm:

Thanks, guys. Yes, MR, the sweet spot gets bigger after a few drinks, no question.

What sort of exhibitionists post photos of their stuff on the internet...?

Well, here is the stereo-only room 2, complete with Gordon Setter. Those speakers are located for "serious" listening (you sit at the corner of the triangle) as well as lounging back, viewing the 12" Sony TV (about 1988) through binoculars. Speakers, KEF Corelli, 1980, on stands; plus unbranded ("Made in Denmark") behind TV, just for testing. DVD/CD player NAD T532, 2002. Power amp Sony, 1992. Cat litter, 2004. Flimsy chipboard cabinet will have to go.

Note, no pre-amp; only one input. It sounds great. If I add tube amp and/or SACD, it will probably be to this system.
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Username: John_a

Post Number: 1993
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 01:34 pm:

Here is room 1, taken standing over the sub with elbow on right surround. Mains; KEF C15 speakers ( > 63 Hz at - 3dB) angled in (see?) on Target stands full of cat litter, with matched, passive KEF C2000 subs (40 to 120 Hz at -3 dB), on floor, one per channel. KEF KHT something as center speaker, perched on top of great ugly cabinet. The best bit is the turntable, of course... Upload

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Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 1224
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 01:37 pm:

good looking doggie there john!

anyways nice setup.

but are those speakers high enoungh off the ground?

from the pic it looks like about 1foot.

what do you sit on a beanbag chair? lol

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Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 1225
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 01:40 pm:

aaoohh the second layout looks much nicer and the
speakers look quite high enough!

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Username: John_a

Post Number: 1994
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 03:50 pm:

You are quite right, Kegger. Those small stands recently came out of storage. Before, those Corellis were on the stands the surrounds are now on, much taller, much better. I will post a pic of the surrounds (they are the ones with the new tweeters). But the surround wall brackets fell off the wall. Heck, I am moving in a few months, you can only do so much. I have some stands on castors in storage, too. they are cr*p. Glad you like the dog. He can hear up to 40 kHz. I have an ultrasound whistle, he hears it, I don't.

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Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 1233
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 05:11 pm:

RANTZ

"French made drivers" IN THE JBL.

are probably audax one of the most widely used upper end drivers in the world.

my jbl's use them also. including the aerogel mids I put in.

excelent performing drivers for the money!

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Username: Myrantz

Post Number: 524
Registered: Aug-04

Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 06:14 pm:

John A

Great thanks - two audio rooms! Both WAF and HAF! And Gordon can take his pick. Great dog. Lost our 14 yr old lab Xmas before last and still miss him. He was a great woofer!

Bet those Kef's sound good (especially that they are toed in) - how does that little center sound - is that what they call a KEF egg?

Now, for my retort, you have soft material behind one of your mains and drywall behind the other, reflections on one side perhaps?

Hang on, I'll bet the curtain is extended when listening? I'd want that auto electric.

Now back to toeing the speakers in - does the angle have any relevence to the angle of the toe-out of one ears? Would Prince Charles need to toe in his speakers with a lesser angle than Mr Blair would for example? (grinning)

Kegger

You could be right about the drivers - I don't know but they do sound good. FYI, the XT1-60's are rear ported, 6ohm, 88d sensitivity and 50hz to 27khz. The sub is 22 to 160hz.

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Username: John_a

Post Number: 1999
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 12:46 am:

MR,

Thanks. I have some more pics, to come later. Sorry to hear about the lab. We bought the Gordon on the rebound after a female of the same breed was run over and killed, aged 7. It's tough to loose a dog. Great breed, Gordons; strong, gentle, intelligent, not highly strung (like other setters), but with incredible stamina and an insatiable appetite for exercise.

Yes, that is a KEF "Egg" in the centre. Some people have those all round. Ours sounds just fine and makes a good centre. I think the -3dB is 80 Hz, so it is "small" and a complete set would definitely need an active sub. It is amazing it goes even that low if you look at the size of it; it is made of cast aluminium and has a bass reflex port (you can see on the right). I understand they have quite a high WAF, too. The C15/SW2000 combination is irreplaceable now, I think. It was from long before active subs came into vogue.

Yes, the curtain should really run all the way across. However, the wall behind the right speaker is soft plasterboard covered with some sort of fabric wallpaper. Behind the curtain is a roll-up screen waiting for a projector. It is a much nicer room with no TV in it. Re reflections, we had bare windows behind, before the curtains. My goodness did the curtains improve the sound. No amount of money on components could have made such a difference. I think it is reflections between the speakers that really muddy the sound; they completely mess up the ideal speaker "point source", and the reflections of course are delayed so they screw up the phasing. In your room, you could experiment with just hanging a rug or similar, temporarily, to see if there is any difference. Brick may not be so bad because of the texture and the grouting.

No, I think having ears one on each side of the head is the main consideration, that is the norm, at least in the A family. I wonder if NAD considered the diversity of lug-holes when they developed EARS.

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Username: Myrantz

Post Number: 527
Registered: Aug-04

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 01:31 am:

John A

Okay, re: the curtain remark - the joke's on me. Yes glass is a big no no for reflections I believe. Just read an article where speaker placement had to overcome large glass window as the listener did not want to lose the view. Back to our set-up, I don't think the brick is a problem. The only problem I did have in the begining of this wild adventure was a booming coming from behind the 'antique' cd cabinet caused by the sub. This was fixed with a 2" thick sheet of foam stuck behind it. I preferred this method to moving the sub elsewhere (WAF).

FYI: Bob Hodas Sound Tips - Proper Speaker Placement - http://www.audiorevolution.com/equip/howto.html

BTW - have heard a lot of good reports about those KEF eggs - not so good scrambled though!

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Username: John_a

Post Number: 2003
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 06:54 am:

My Rantz,

From what I read here, people usually prefer them fried. Or poached.

You obviously know your stuff. Anyone who puts floor-standers on stands (even with spikes into tiles), with good reason, has a mind of his own, and is a man after my own heart. But I knew that! I find the WAF sometimes demurs at how it looks, but is quickly won over by sound quality, especially with movies.

You and Kegger are encouraging me, so a quick final tour of room 1, with minimal comment. You actually cannot photograph it all, it is all around the room. I made small Quicktime VR file of that room once, but everything has changed since then, and I do not have time to make another.

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Username: John_a

Post Number: 2004
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 06:59 am:

Left main pair, as seen from "serious listening" position. But serious listening is in low light, or dark. KEF C15 1989 and SW2000 1991.

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Username: John_a

Post Number: 2005
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 07:04 am:

Right surround. KEF Coda II 1982 with new tweeter 2004 (not seen). Forgotten the make of stand. Active sub, Gale 3080W, 2003.

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Username: John_a

Post Number: 2006
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 07:15 am:

Electronics rack (flimsy cabinet, home-modified) plus part of CD, LP, DVD-A collection and various other bits and pieces.

From the top: Rega Planar 3 1979; NAD T560 2003 (was 2000 model I think); Sony something VCR about 1997; NAD T533 DVD-V/DVD-A/Cd etc player 2004; NAD 1000 stereo pre-amp (used now mostly for the phono input) 1992; Nokia digital satellite receiver about 1999; Marantz CD 475 LE CD player 1988; LPs. Left; DVD-As on top (end one is Mahler 10), supported by TFOTR bookends.

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Username: John_a

Post Number: 2007
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 07:26 am:

Rega Planar 3 turntable 1979 with original everything. Beats the lot for sound quality. It is playing "Classics for Pleasure" Mozart horn concertos (1970). I have some later recordings of those on Pickwick-IMP CD (1987), and the LP blows them out of the water for sound quality, no question, and no matter which CD player I use. You can hear it immediately.

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Username: John_a

Post Number: 2009
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 09:40 am:

As a diversion, here is a Bond Video Clip that is enough to make Old Dogs bark. If I post another pic of Bond, I have no doubt this thread will be archived within hours.

My Rantz, if you have a minute, see if you can help a fellow Australian who has bought a load of nice gear in UK and wonders whether it will work back home; Have I leapt before I looked?.

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Username: Kegger

MICHIGAN

Post Number: 1240
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 09:58 am:

dammit john.

i'm at work here trying to play the bond video.

real cute the piece of shyt won't connect.
after i went through the whole thing of installing
real player on a customers machine!

that's just great!

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Username: Ghiacabriolet

NC

Post Number: 239
Registered: Apr-04

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 10:45 am:

I'm sorry, but these Bond chicks just don't do anything for me. Maybe a little 007 might do the trick....

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Username: Ghiacabriolet

NC

Post Number: 240
Registered: Apr-04

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 11:14 am:

Kegger,

That's a heckuva a lotta equipment. Bet it sounds great! It is really cool that you do speaker modifications and build your own, too.

MR,

Sweet setup! I think I commented on it before but I'll repeat it. BTW, I'm going today to switch out the Doobies DVD-A. I'll let you know the outcome. I was able to get "Long Train Runnin'" to play and it sounded fantastic.

JohnA,

Your family room setup is impressive. 3 subs? Your equipment organization passes the WAF for me....not that I have any place to say that. lol. Love the turntable. I wish I still had a turntable and lp's.

Kegger, you inspired me with your listening area photo....stay tuned.

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Username: Ghiacabriolet

NC

Post Number: 241
Registered: Apr-04

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 11:34 am:

Here's a pic of my SERIOUS LISTENING area. Note, the "built-in WAF" JohnA alluded to keeps me from having my chair in FRONT of the fireplace fulltime....But, when I'm settling in for SERIOUS LISTENING I move the chair from the corner in front of the bookcase to this position.

One other point....note the location of the B&W surrounds....The front corner of the speaker hangs precariously over the edge of the shelf and the rear butts directly against the wall's corner. Comments on the impact this has on sound output?? Suggestions on a smaller speaker that might match up well with the Monitor Audio fronts?

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Username: Ghiacabriolet

NC

Post Number: 242
Registered: Apr-04

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 11:43 am:

Kegger,

Per the previously mentioned inspiration....Here's a closeup of my lstening area with preferred beverages, Coke or wine - but never together.

This pic is only slightly "staged"....There's usually cd's laying on the table and empty beverage bottles, etc....but, for this pic, I did "stage" it with Aimee Mann SACD's. lol

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Username: Ghiacabriolet

NC

Post Number: 243
Registered: Apr-04

Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 11:47 am:

JohnA,

You wrote: "What sort of exhibitionists post photos of their stuff on the internet...?"

Indeed! LOL! At least it got the Beefcake and Bond photos archived.....

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Username: Kegger

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Post Number: 1241
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Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 12:05 pm:

good looking setup ghia i was going to mention
the wine bottles before i saw the next post.

you definatley have the most beautiful setup out of all of us.

i like the looks of the layout on mr. rantz setup.

and johns looks nice and cozy "family like"

where mine looks like a party just left!

HEY no has said anything about my entertainment
center. I built that behemith myself out of 2x4's
and 3/4 inch thick mdf.
you don't get much stronger then that!

I will list components next.

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Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 12:08 pm:

oh yah and the back of the entertainment center
is in another room so you can get at everything with ease.

there is also fans behind each side where the components are.

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Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 12:47 pm:

ok left rack list!

top left: theta 396 dac.
just to the right on top: dared tube preamp.

next row down left: golden tube audio se-40.

top shelf of rack: rotel 3channel amp rb-993.
2nd shelf: pioneer 563a under that dbx 120a sub proc.
3rd shelf: kenwood m2a 2channel a+b 220wpc = 880watts (4 channels)
4th shelf: same as 3rd.
2nd from the bottom: hk 525 reciever.
bottom: sub plate amp in box powers front subs (2 12" rockfords).