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Username: Arnold_layne

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Post Number: 74
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Must have been the all-time hi-rez hit, DSotM. But what happened to the rest of PF's albums? Haven't seen any other anywhere in SACD.

Imagine all the glittering notes in "Shine on you crazy diamond" pouring out of a 5.1 system. Shame on you media moguls bereaving us this heavenly pleasure.

Did Mademoiselle Nobs chew up all other master tapes? Or is it just sales forecasts? What would it take to convince them? Should we all go shopping redbook copies to make other PF albums - not only DSotM - pop up on billboard from time to time?
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Username: Sem

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AL,

I agree completely. Can you imagine "Several Species Of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together In A Cave And Grooving With A Pict" in surround? Or "Dogs." Or "Shine on You Crazy Diamond" Or "Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast" Or "One of These Days" Or "Run Like Hell" Or "The Gunners Dream" Or...............
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Username: Seamus

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DSotM set the standard for multi-channel recordings when it was released (IMO, and going by reviews when it came out). There are the persistent rumours of the PULSE DVD mix being almost complete. That was a neat concert.

And yeah, Sem, "One of these days" would be mind-blowing in surround - and also Echoes, i'm sure.

One of my all-time favourite Floyd live performances is "Run Like Hell" with Guy Pratt matching vocals with Gilmour (from PULSE, or was it DSoT ?).

Interesting choice of names (are these called 'hooks' ?) on this forum - I've taken mine from the dog in Meddle. And i hope Arnold Layne doesn't really live up to his namesake. Do you AL ?
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Username: Arnold_layne

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Post Number: 94
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Well, on a pale moonlit night... I try to stick with this forum, helps me forgetting that urge to sneak out through backdoor and... Oops, here comes Mrs. Layne...






I've discovered there are actually some SACDs:
- Pink Floyd - The Final Cut
- Roger Waters - Live in Berlin
- Roger Waters - In the Flesh
- Rather expensive, and critics not all that good.

Have you checked out http://www.pinkfloyd.co.uk ? There you find a few words from James Guthrie, the man that made DSotM on SACD possible.


... will the following footsteps catch me?
AL
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Username: Sem

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AL,

Not sure if you were around when I provided this link to Alan Parsons' song by song comments on Guthrie's SACD version of DSOTM. Interesting comments. I personally would have loved to have heard Parsons' interpretation of the PF classic.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article.asp?section_id=2&article_id=444&pag
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Username: Seamus

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Good link Sem, I hadn't some across this piece till now. Some time ago, somebody on this forum mentioned having met Alan Parsons (I now forget the context, I think it was on his speaker choices). Was it you ?
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Username: Arnold_layne

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Sem, I think I saw your link but forgot to check it out. Indeed very interesting points of view.

I'd say Alan P. is a DVD-A guy. IMO SACD seems less precise regarding stereo (or should we rename it 5.1?) image.

Hasta pronto
AL
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Username: Sem

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Seamus,

Yes, met him many times, quite a humble, down to earth gentleman. I should have another chance to talk with him this November, I think.

AL,

I agree. In fact his new release will be available in DVD-A on the MyUtopia label (a division of 5.1 Entertainment).

Did you happen to catch any of the shows in Spain this past May?
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Username: Arnold_layne

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Oh yeah - great concert in Plaza Mayor, Madrid. (I think I mentioned it briefly in "Plunging into multichannel" thread).

Soundstage among the best I've heard outdoors, despite medieval plaza, cobblestone, lots of metal and glass around. In short, an acoustic nightmare that AP mastered it very well indeed. Many of the classic songs benefitted from being "modernized", with more rythms and powerfulness. "The Raven" was outstanding in this sense. Other songs - like "Eye in the Sky" - were brought to us in a more humble way, letting the beautiful tunes speak for themselves. Good musicians in the band, as well as vocals. Even AP's voice is aging with grace. A fine concert in an unusual but not at all inadequate environment.

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Username: Sem

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AL,

"Good musicians in the band, as well as vocals."

Yes, they are quite talented. PJ Olsson (vocals) http://www.pjolsson.com/ has done commercials which have aired nationally (and has also appeared on Davd Letterman), Montagna (bass) and Focarazzo (K/Bs) are well respected NYC area musicians. Drummer Steve Murphy has appeared in Trans Siberian Orchestra http://www.trans-siberian.com/ And guitarist Godfrey Townsend played in and recorded with The John Entwistle Band, as well as appears occasionally around the NYC area in his "Clapton is God-frey" tribute to Eric Clapton. http://www.theavenueonline.info/site1/bios/godfrey.htm

What really stands out with the current APLP lineup is, as you mentioned, the vocals. All six on stage sing solos as well as harmonize like no other lineup has in the past. This enables them to greatly expand their playlist to include songs they wouldn't have typically been able to play in the past.

Glad you enjoyed the concert. They'll be back in Europe in October - Holland, Switzerland, Germany, England, and Poland.
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Username: Arnold_layne

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That proves it, the guy is a genious. Touring in Germany in the midst of beer festival season. Wish I were there. But this year, vacations will be spent on western shores of the Atlantic. Mrs. Layne insisted on Caribbean cruise.

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Username: Seamus

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Sem where can i get more details on the concerts ? Had listened to APP back in the "Eye in the Sky" days, would love to hear their new sound.

By the way, James Guthrie is apparently busy putting the finishing touches on the PULSE DVD. So keep an eye out for that...
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Username: Sem

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Seamus,

Thanks for the heads up on Pulse. I saw a few Floyd shows from that tour.

Here is the website of the official Alan Parsons Newsletter. Its run by Steve Martin out of Toronto, and contains all kinds of great information including a couple of clips to listen to. I think you'll need to use Real Player to listen.

http://www.theavenueonline.info/
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You lucky man Sem ! I would've killed to see Floyd in action. The only "Floyd" show that I did manage to catch was Roger Waters' recent "In the Flesh Tour". Good, but not quite the same as the PULSE shows. Hopefully the DVD will live up to all the hype.
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Username: Arnold_layne

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Unconfirmed rumours, but I thought I'd cheer you (us) up:

http://www.rogerwatersonline.com/roger_waters_news/31st08200404.htm

AL
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Username: Sem

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AL,

Thanks. Great news, if true. One of my favorites. And one I'm betting will sound great in surround.
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Username: Myrantz

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That is good news. But, I'd like "I Wish You Were Here" on hi-res surround also.
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Username: Sem

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My Rantz,

Agree 100%!!! Probaby my all-time favorite Pink Floyd cd.
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Username: Arnold_layne

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Mine too, IMO it goes beyond almost everything ever recorded. Would be the ultimate surround ambience experience. Please, media moguls: Hi-rez digitalize whatever material left, for future generations to enjoy.
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Ditto Guys!

Well, that's three of us just here - come on record companies, get with it! Sales are waiting!
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I promise to buy 2 copies if it helps sales!!
By the way MR, have you seen the Aussie Floyd tribute band that www.brain-damage.co.uk keeps talking about ?
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Username: Sem

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My guess is most of the PF back catalog will eventually be mixed into surround. There would obviously be a hugh market for it.

AL,
Sure you can't take your cruise and sneak in a trip to Zurich? :-) Here's the latest Parsons tour schedule:

Sept 30 - Detroit - w/Dennis De Young - Detroit Opera House - Playing with a complete orchestra. Performing songs by Styx, Parsons and (I heard) Pink Floyd.

Oct 3, 4 - Hardenberg, Holland - Club Podium
Oct 5 - Tilburg, Holland - Club 013
Oct 6 - Zurich, Switzerland - Volkshaus
Oct 7 - London, UK - The Astoria
Oct 9 - Athens, Greece - Gagarin 205
Oct 10 - Thessaloniki, Greece - Fix
Oct 12 - Krefeld, Germany - Rennbahn
Oct 13 - Hamburg, Germany - Fabrik
Oct 14 - Copenhagen, Denmark - Amager Bio
Oct 15 - Warsaw, Poland - Congress Hall
Oct 16 - Modena, Italy - Vox Club
Oct 18 - Rome, Italy - TBA
Oct 19 - Palermo, Italy - Teatro Pollteama
Oct 20 - Firenze, Italy - Teatro Verdi
Oct 22 - Milan, Italy - TBA
OCT. 29/04 - Home Theater Cruise
Nov 10 - New York - BB Kings (I may go to this one!!)
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Username: Seamus

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Speaking of the Floyd back catalogue, apparently there'll be a special promotion in the UK from 13th Sept to 22nd Oct where massive discounts shall be offered on all Floyd albums (except the 'Shine On' box set and DSOTM SACD).
Check out the Brain Damage site. And it looks like the Lost Doc, the documentary about the famous The Wall concerts in London is about to be released. Too bad it's only a behind-the-scenes look and not the entire concert.
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Username: Arnold_layne

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Ney, Sem. I take vacations now, so in October there's only slavery for me, ball and chain. Tried to talk Mrs. Layne into postponing Caribbean cruise until Oct. 26, but...

Hasta pronto
AL
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Seamus

Never heard of Aussie Floyd until your mention - I guess I don't get out enough!
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Username: Sem

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AL.
I can certainly understand what you're saying, you have to do what you have to do. I just hope you're waiting until after the hurricane season.

Seamus,
I read about the Aussie Floyd tribute band on another music group I follow. If I remember correctly,(and that's about 50/50 anymore), they were here in the states earlier this year. I do remember reading that they are really, really, good.
Also, that brain-damage link you provided above links to two new Roger Waters songs you can listen to, and even download with the right program ;-) Thanks!!
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Username: Arnold_layne

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Well, let's put it this way: we're leaving Santo Domingo Monday night, heading east so we can reach St. Lucia on Wednesday at the same time as next hurricane, Ivan. Thursday we are scheduled to stroll on beaches of Barbados. Wearin' my Famous Blue Raincoat, that would be. Will be some interesting vacations indeed.
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Username: Sem

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AL,
Best of luck. I hope the weather isn't so severe as to keep you from enjoying yourselves. We vacationed in St Thomas and St John last year in early August and were able to get in and get out before the hurricane season started. The Caribbean islands are very beautiful, friendly people, great food, and excellent snorkeling.

Have a great time, just be safe.
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Username: Arnold_layne

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Hi guys, I survived. Love Bat re-routed to avoid Ivan the Terrible. Sunbathin' and snorklin' all the time. But 2nd week in Punta Cana (Dominican Republic) got little windy. Hotel could not re-route, so Jeannie forced us to stay indoors for a few days. We were lucky staying in a standfast luxury hotel, some others were flooded and their food supply cut off.

Sem, I 100% agree on Caribbean islands. I'd repeat the trip, hurricane or not. But I liked Cuba (vacations 2002) more than Dominican Reublic: better organization, service and cigar prices. Dominican Republic has more beautiful landscapes, though. Next time I'd like to check out Jamaica.

Hasta pronto
AL

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Username: Sem

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AL, glad you were able to salvage your vacation. We almost went to Punta Cana, DR last year, but opted instead to go to St Thomas. Maybe some day...
Cuba, unfortuneately, is one place we're not allowed to visit :-(
A word about Jamaica, I know several different people who went there...once. To a person, they all said it was ok, but they probably wouldn't go back. On the other hand I know two couples that keep going back to Aruba - they love it there. (Disclaimer - I have never been to either place so my word may not mean much here. Just passing along what I've heard).
A good friend recently went to Belize and said it was the closest thing to heaven he's ever seen.
In the end, do your homework, I'm sure you'll find your own paradise.
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Username: Arnold_layne

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On-going rumours considering PF SACD releases, and guess what: not only "Animals"... :

http://www.rogerwatersonline.com/roger_waters_news/8th09200403.htm

Hasta pronto
AL
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Username: Sem

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AL,
Cool!! Thanks. I sure hope it happens.
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Username: Sem

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I've been privledged to get a hold of a special cd recording: The quad version of Dark Side of the Moon. This is from the original SQ LP quad mix Alan Parsons did for EMI years ago, not the Guthrie SACD mix being sold today. This mix was (I believe) then fed through a Tate/Fosgate II decoder over to a pc and run through SurCode software, and then burned as a DTS quad cd. Very cool.

I still haven't picked up the SACD version, but will do so before too long and compare the two.

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Username: Kingfish

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my, my... the hairs on the back of my neck are starting to raise a little. Animals is one of my favorites. Pink, man Pink!!

I can just imagine the bass lick lead in to Have a Cigar encircling the room.
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Username: Arnold_layne

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Finally got hold on the new Parsons album. I'm scanning through the sons right now. Brutal, I agree it should be one wild DVD-A indeed.

Already like it very much indeed. Some stuff takes over where Mike Oldfield ran out of electricity. Some other is 100% born-again 70s dinosaur. And those "special effects"...

Track 7 sounds familiar... can't be... it'sa... ehr...

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Gosh!
AL
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Username: Sem

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AL,

LOL!! I agree, the surround mix DVD-A should be pretty cool indeed. Not sure when its due to be released, if I remember, I'll ask Alan next month and report back. So far my favorite track is Chomolungma (the Tibetan name for Mt Everest). Really cool drum and simple keybord along with a digitally sampled Tibetan chant, building more and more intense until the hysterical ending by Python's John Cleese.
Also like Return to Tunguska, featuring the guitar work of David Gilmour.


Tidbits:
The guy on the cd cover (by Storm Thorgeson), is walking across stepping stones that are made to look like pc keyboard keys; kind of a play on the old DOS message about an invalid path.

Parsons' son Jeremy did the remix of the two original songs.

The dog at the end is Parsons dog Harrow, recorded in his home - listen for the doorbell.

The cool water dripping sounds leading into "L'Arc En Ciel" was done by Alan and his wife in their bathtub using water and hot candle wax.

On their current tour they're playing three songs from AVP - #'s 1,2 and 4.

Enjoy....
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Username: Arnold_layne

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Sem, I am now listening through this brilliant album in Dolby PLII (music mode). I generally don't prefer DSP manipulation, it flavours the music. But in this case it's an interesting experience. Sound stage opens up and some complexity is resolved, more detailed. An appetizer on what's to come this winter, can barely wait.

BTW, was it this dude who had a psychedelic breakfast?

Hasta pronto
AL
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AL,
I don't think Floyd was referencing Parsons on that AHM tune. Not sure who though.

On a semi-related note, Mrs. Sem and I sat at a nearby table eating breakfast in a hotel the morning after one of the Walk Down Abbey Road shows (in 2001), and watched Parsons order and eat six hard-boiled eggs and wash them down with a glass of grapefruit juice. Psychedelic breakfast? Not quite. But it sure turned my stomach. :-)
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Username: Arnold_layne

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PF releases seems to have been discussed recently:

http://www.highfidelityreview.com/news/news.asp?newsnumber=12377501

Cheers
AL
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Username: Sem

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AL,
This is great news. Thanks.
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Username: Arnold_layne

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And it gets even better. According to an interview with Nick Mason, published in
http://www.brain-damage.co.uk, Animals and WYWH are out next year. Probably together in a double SACD album, it seems.
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Could an actual Pink Floyd reunion be in the works???

http://www.rogerwatersonline.com/roger_waters_news/2nd10200403.htm


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...or maybe not.

http://www.rogerwatersonline.com/roger_waters_news/14th10200403.htm

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Username: Arnold_layne

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I'm not able to check the sources, but rumours are persistent:

http://www.rogerwatersonline.com/calendar_2005.htm

Cheers
AL

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Username: Sem

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Arnold, Seamus, and other PF fans,
A little late, but did anyone else catch Roger Waters and Eric Clapton performing an accoustic version of "Wish You Were Here" on the Tsunami Aide concert televised last night? Interesting rendition.

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Yep, saw it last night. It was repeated later also. Maybe it'll repeat today sometime. Sounded real good. There was the 3 girl singers with them also. It was played all acoustic. Just too short, we always want more. There was much other good music on the fund raiser also.
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The quadrophonic mix of DSOTM was just posted on Usenet as an DTS encoded CD image.
Look for CK2401 on alt.binaries.sounds or alt.binaries.sounds.dts
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Anonymous
Thanks so much. It was great. reminded me of their concerts in quad. It was fantastic.
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