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Username: Jedj5

Post Number: 3
Registered: Aug-07
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skater bum,
i have a bad door switch on the driver side.so that means my car thinks the driver's door is still open.would that be the reason why the alarm goes off?i tried reading the manual.but all it gave me was a headache.maybe im a dumbass.
i got the alarm used and the person who installed it for me said i had to get a new remote because it would arm and disarm the alarm but, when the alarm goes off it doesnt page the remote.would that also be the reason?
thank you in advance for your help.i really appreicate it.
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Username: Beart32

Post Number: 1
Registered: Aug-07
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Hey Skater bum,

Do you have the installation guide for the Viper 5002?
Thanks
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 226
Registered: Mar-06
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Ted,

Here's a link to the installation guide for the Viper 5002:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N3302V_11-06post.pdf
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Username: Macquarrie

Pasadena, CA

Post Number: 1
Registered: Aug-07
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I've been searching through the forums for a while now, and have seen several requests for assistance with a Viper C50, but never any responses....

I have a 1989 Montero that I bought used about a year ago. For the last few months, I've had problems with it not starting unless I push the little black button. This has become increasingly more frequent, and increasingly ineffective, often taking several tries. On Saturday, it stopped working entirely. The remote only functions occasionally, blinking faintly on about one out of five button-pushes, and blinking brightly on about one out of 20. About the only thing that responds to the remote is the door lock. The car won't start.

I dug around under the dash and found the unit (a Viper C50), disconnected all the wires leading into it and pulled it out. The car still doesn't start. I saw a post that said I had to find the "yellow wire that goes to the starter" and reconnect it. Problem, there's no yellow wire going to the starter. One of the dozen or so wires that connects to the big plug block is yellow, but I haven't been able to follow it through the fistful of wires bound with zip-ties under the dash yet.

Not being an electrician, I'm throwing myself on your mercy here; what do I have to reconnect where in order to be able to drive my car again?

Thanks!

Jim MacQ.
e-mail: jim@jimmacq.com
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 227
Registered: Mar-06
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James MacQuarrie,

The starter wire on an 89' Montero should be BLACK/YELLOW (i.e. black wire with a yellow stripe on it) at the steering column. Follow this wire down from the key to where it is cut in half by the alarm system and reconnect it to itself. This should allow you to start the car.
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Username: Macquarrie

Pasadena, CA

Post Number: 2
Registered: Aug-07
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Thanks! I'll give it a try.
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Username: Macquarrie

Pasadena, CA

Post Number: 3
Registered: Aug-07
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It worked! Thanks!
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Username: Jedj5

Post Number: 4
Registered: Aug-07
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skater bum,
i have a bad door switch on the driver side.so that means my car thinks the driver's door is still open.would that be the reason why the alarm goes off?i tried reading the manual.but all it gave me was a headache.maybe im a dumbass.
i got the alarm used and the person who installed it for me said i had to get a new remote because it would arm and disarm the alarm but, when the alarm goes off it doesnt page the remote.would that also be the reason?
thank you in advance for your help.i really appreicate it.
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Username: Rexliu

Post Number: 2
Registered: Aug-07
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Not sure if anyone can help me, but I have a problem with an old Viper 500 ESP alarm. Neither remote is working anymore and I tried to reprogram them but they still aren't working. I'm not sure what to try next and I'm afraid that there's a problem with the receiver on the alarm module.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what to try next? Otherwise, does anyone know if there's a new model that has the same wiring plugs so I can just swap out the modules without having to rewire everything?

Thanks!
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 228
Registered: Mar-06
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Jed,

A bad door switch could cause your system to malfunction. Get it replaced. As for the system not paging the remote could be a bad alarm, bad remote or poor antenna placement.


Rex Liu,

Here's a link to the installation guide for the 500ESP:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N439V.pdf

Maybe this will help you with programming. As for swapping the unit out with a new one, it's hard to say. A lot of Viper wiring is the same but it may differ from model to model.
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Username: Rlmesq

Chico, CA

Post Number: 1
Registered: Aug-07
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Test mode: Viper 3002 and 508d prox

Does anybody know how to enter test mode, so I can adjust the zones on my DEI 508d proximity sensor? The test mode for the shock sensor doesn't work for the prox, and I'd like to be able to test the settings without triggering the alarm.

I have user and install manuals for the alarm, which I have read carefully, but no documentation on the prox.

Thanks!
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 231
Registered: Mar-06
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Bob Marshall,

I don't think that the 508D has a test mode. Here's a link to the installation guide for the 508D:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/accessories/2508111_508D_Installation_ Guide.pdf
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Username: 92audi100csq

Post Number: 1
Registered: Sep-07
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Skater Bum,

Can you get me the installation manual for the 211hv?

Thanks!
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 240
Registered: Mar-06
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brantmthorn@gmail.com,

Here's a link to the installation guide for the 211HV:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N412V_01-05.pdf
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Username: Husky99

Illinois

Post Number: 1
Registered: Sep-07
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Hi Skater Bum!
I just recently purchased a '98 Chevy Silverado that came with a Viper Alarm System. The model number on the remote is RPN 474V and uses 2/66 codes. What that means, i dunno, lol. NE~Ways, I'm having some probs with it. It'll remote start by pressing and holding the lock and unlock button at the same time. But it won't kill. And the lock and unlock buttons just flash the lights but don't do ne-thing to the locks!? If u can help me with this or provide me with a link to the owners guide that would be greatly appreciated, TY!
~Will~
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Username: 92audi100csq

Post Number: 2
Registered: Sep-07
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Wow that was fast! Thanks again for helping everyone out.

(brantmthorn)
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Username: Kurtis570

Post Number: 4
Registered: Feb-07
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Hi-

I have a viper alarm system (about 10 years old now) that is still installed in my '86 chevy camaro. I think it is the culprit for a draining battery and i'd really like to completely disarm it and remove the whole thing. I'm afraid to do it- fearing id mess something up with the starter kill. I know you told me once before to cut everything from the brain box- where do you think that would be and what would it look like? Any advice- much appreciated.
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 241
Registered: Mar-06
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Will Dennis,

For me to help you, you'll need to find the model number of the alarm system. The alarm will be under the dash usually on the driver's side. Normally it is a black box that should look out of place with a bunch of colored wires coming out of it. The model number will be on the top of the unit.





Kurtis,

The alarm will be under the dash usually on the driver's side. Normally it is a black box that should look out of place. The only wire that should be cut in half is the starter wire on the steering column. On an '86 Camaro it should be purple or yellow. All of the other wires you can just cut off of the factory wiring and tape.
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Username: Husky99

Illinois

Post Number: 2
Registered: Sep-07
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I don't get it! I broke my neck under the dash lookin all around that thing trying to find the model number! I didn't have ANYTHING on it. Just a blank black box with the... SHOOT! I forgot to get the S/N! But yea, all it had was that and the ever so unhelpful FCC ID# wich is, FCC ID: ELV55AAL737R. I know that won't help you. Those were on the back of the box, or bottom, depending on how ur lookin at it. As far as the top, no. The rest of the box was blank. I'll try and get the S/N for you tomorrow, even though that won't help either. It seems like I might have to take the vehicle to the dealer and find out what the problem is since there is no model number. If u think of anything else please let me know, thank you!
~Will~
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 242
Registered: Mar-06
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Will Dennis,

The model number will be embossed into the plastic on the main unit. It is possible that your system was installed without the door lock feature and that would explain why the lights only flash and not lock the door when the button is pressed. Once you find the model number I will be able to help you better.
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Username: Crisph

Post Number: 1
Registered: Sep-07
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can anyone help me get hold of manual for a viper 479 vpc? (you knwo the score, bought used car, but guess what no paperwork for the alarm...)
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Username: Kingofalltraits

Post Number: 1
Registered: Sep-07
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yeah! my alarm system stopped chirping about two days ago. i got home and locked my door..and realized it didnt chirp..Can someone please help me out? thank you so much!
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 246
Registered: Mar-06
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Dan Raymond,

You probably put your system into valet mode or silent chirp mode. Try arming the car with the remote and then unlock the door with the key, open the door and see if the alarm goes off. If it doesn't sound, you've put the car into valet mode. If it does sound, you've selected silent arm/disarm. Without knowing the model number of your system, it's hard to tell you how to correct the situation. The model number will be on the main unit under the dash. It is NOT the number on the back of the remote control.
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Username: Kingofalltraits

Post Number: 2
Registered: Sep-07
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thanks..but how would i take it out of valet mode? do i start my car and then push the button?
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 247
Registered: Mar-06
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Dan Raymond,

Without knowing the model number of your system, it's hard to tell you how to correct the situation. The model number will be on the main unit under the dash. It is NOT the number on the back of the remote control.
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Username: Kingofalltraits

Post Number: 3
Registered: Sep-07
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well i got it..i just tutnred my car on and hit the valet switch..i appreciate ur help..thanks again!
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Username: Crx168

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jul-07
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Hi, does anyone have a manual for Viper rpn471t, believe this is a DEI model. The reason why I ask is becuase when I activate the alarm, it does not chirp, but rather, gives a Siren sound. And when I deactivate, it 'siren' twice. It's really bugging me and I don't know how to turn this back to a "Chirp" or in silent mode.

I tried pressing I and II buttons together, or holding I for a longer time, nothing works.

Please letme know how I can fix this! Thanks All
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Username: Dm2

Post Number: 1
Registered: Oct-07
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Skater Bum,
I have a Viper Model 5900 installed on a 2008 Ford Super Duty.
Is it possible to have the unit roll up the windows? I thought I heard where it was possible. it'd be nice to be able to stand at the front door to my office, out of the rain, and push a button to roll them up.

Thanks in advance,
Dan.
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Username: Dm2

Post Number: 2
Registered: Oct-07
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Skater Bum,
Another question...
I was reading in the Installation manual for the Viper 5900 and noted that it appears that the unit can be programmed with laptop. I'm guessing it's a RS-232 connection, using a DB9, pins 2,3 and 5. Is there a software program I can get to make the programming changes?

Thanks again,
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 249
Registered: Mar-06
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Dan,

Yes, it is possible but I suggest you use a window module to do it. If you just use channels on your remote to do it, you don't have any safety measures in case something would go wrong.

As for the laptop programming, you need a special Clifford programming cable and CliffNet Wizard Pro in order to do it.
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Username: Dme62

Post Number: 1
Registered: Oct-07
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I am looking for an installation manual for a viper 5500. Does anyone have the manual for this starter?
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Username: 8calvin8

Post Number: 1
Registered: Oct-07
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Skater Bum, perhaps?

I'd be grateful for an installation manual for a Python 1500HF.
Tried a few generic things to enter program mode with no success. I have to new remotes to add as the one it came with years ago was stolen recently. Many Thanks.
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Username: Wizzer

Winnipeg, MANITOBA
CANADA

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Registered: Oct-07
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help. viper ezsdei476, 476v 266 codes.i am looking for manual. or operating instructions, step by step.pleeeaaassseee
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Username: Ethanj

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-07
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Would you happen to have the installation manual for the Viper 800HF. This seems to be a discontinued model. It is not the same as the 800ESP. They are both similar but the 800HF seems to have fewer menu options.

If you don't have the full manual, I actually am only having trouble with one feature, the delayed accessory output. My car was in the body shop and the alarm was allowed to power down completely. As a result, the remotes stopped working and all my settings were lost. I was able to re-sync the remote and restore most of my settings(using the 800esp guide), but I was not able to restore a power window feature. I used to be able to open the windows after taking the key out of the ignition(until I opened the door). I believe this is linked to the delayed accessory but I could be completely mistaken. Any suggestions?
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Username: Adroc3905

Post Number: 7
Registered: Jan-06
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Regarding the Viper 5900 window question, don't you need resistors in place for certain cars? I attempted to add a Clifford SW4 to an exsiting Intelliguard 750 on a cavalier w/ no luck. I heard the resistance needed to be changed but could not find the value I needed. Any ideas? Cliffnet Wizard is useful if you intend to really dial in on some key components. Other than that its the same as the features grid obtained using the valet/plain view switch. I have the program but you will need the data cable.
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Username: Cooperman_sk8erpunx

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-07
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i was wondering if any one has any help on installing a viper 480xv any help would be much appreciated
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Username: Gryphen

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Registered: Nov-07
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Need a fresh idea. Have a 2000 Ford F-250 v-10. Got it with factory alarm and a viper 550esp. 8 months now and not one problem. no make upgrades, or repairs. New battery 5 months ago right!!?! ok, 3 weeks ago i come home and park,3 hours later i try to start using remote start and is sputters an nothing. try again, wont evn try to start. Full power,and lights. After looking around i discoverd 2 blown mini fuses. A "data" relay and lighter fuse, And a starter relay coil fuse. So i replace it. no problem, ok couple of days go by and i try my remote start for the first time since, same damn thing, but this time only one fuse, starter relay again. replace and im on my way, today did use remote start, tried to disarm an alarm went off, killed it and truck wouldnt start, same fuse, but now when i replace it, it blows as soon as i try to start the truck. Now i have traced as best i can the wiring from harness to alarm to starter, looks good, and as many other connections and paths as i could to check for exposure and or lose. it seems valet is useless at this point. my thouhts are somehow a surge hit the brain and its been running on basic motor skills (no pun intended)unil it now has become worse.Any suggestion im open for, even removing the whole unit, but ford said it more complicated than just re-hooking up the starter wire???? thanks
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Username: Pleap01

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-07
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well skater bum if your still looking here is another for you.
I have the 690xv and my remote went bad. I just got my new one in today and followed the instructions on the back of the package. I open the door and turn ignition to on. but when I push the valet switch 7 times then hold it the 8th push, nothing happens. no beeps or chirps or even the led blinking. The led, valet switch and siren all work. Then I'll try to push a button on the remote and still nothing.
Am I forgetting or missing something? Thanks
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Username: Mreenn

Long branch, New jersey
United STATES

Post Number: 1
Registered: Dec-07
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DOES ANY ONE HAVE THE INSTALLATION GUIDE FOR THE VIPER 300ESP
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Username: Ozsir2

Post Number: 5
Registered: Nov-06
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Can any of you cool dudes provide an install guide for VIPER 550HF.
Thanks in advance!
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 250
Registered: Mar-06
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Back in action!

patrick,

Here's a link to the installation guide for the 690XV:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N434V_09-04.pdf



stephen atchison,

Here's a link to the installation guide for the
300ESP:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N429V.pdf





Steve Gee,


Here's a link to the installation guide for the
550HF:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N550hf.pdf
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Username: Ozsir2

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Registered: Nov-06
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Thanks Skater Bum! You're the best!
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Username: Cooperman_sk8erpunx

Post Number: 2
Registered: Nov-07
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skater bum i have got someone that has looked before forethe viper 480xv and couldnt find it on dei was just woundering if you could help? it has 480v on the brain box if that helps. its an alarm and 3 point immobaliser.
thanks
andy
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 251
Registered: Mar-06
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andrew cooper,

DEI only seems to have the Owner's Manual. Nothing comes up for installation.
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Username: Cooperman_sk8erpunx

Post Number: 3
Registered: Nov-07
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that is the problem i have been having with this one. seem strange they sell a product but dont no how to fit it them selves. how am i ment to do it? lol
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Username: Cooperman_sk8erpunx

Post Number: 4
Registered: Nov-07
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it is very much the same as the 460xv but this one is the 2way pager one.
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Username: Strunthopht

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Registered: Dec-07
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Hello,

Can someone tell me if the installer guide for the 5500 is the same as the 5900? or can someone post the guide for the 5500??

Thanks.
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 256
Registered: Mar-06
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Scott Liboiron,

Here's a link to the installation guide for the Viper 5500:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N4301V_05-06post.pdf
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Username: Russellv

Waterdown, Ontario
Canada

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jan-08
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Hi Skater bum
I just finished wireing up my viper 791 xv but when ever i remote start it every three seconds or so the park lights come on and i hear beeping inside the car! i have traced the wires and they all seem right... is this a normal thing for the vipers?? any help would be nice.. Russ
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

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