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Bronze Member Username: Simple_smith
Lapeer,
Michigan
United States
Post Number: 28
Registered: Dec-08
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| Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 12:32 pm: |
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What is the best kind of wood to use?
I've heard MDF, HDF, Particle Board, and Advantech. I don't know which is best and don't have the money to test them all so your opinions would be helpful
Also, what is the best wood glue?
I've heard Titebond and Titebond 2 and there's a ton of others probably, so again, your opinions would be helpful
And yes there's more!
What are some guidelines for bracing?
Is there like a rule for number of braces per cu.ft?
Thanks in advance
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Platinum Member Username: Nyyfan13
Northern VA
Post Number: 11495
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 04:14 pm: |
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For a daily driver, I see no reason to use anything but 3/4" MDF. I think BLK used Advantech and had good results from it but he's trying to break 160 last time I was here lol.
As for glue, a bunch of people including myself use gorilla glue and it works good for me and everyone else.
Bracing, it depends on the power your running and the shape/size of the box. There isn't a guideline that I know of but just where ever the box could be weak, you need to brace.
What's your system? Sub and amp. |
Bronze Member Username: Simple_smith
Lapeer,
Michigan
United States
Post Number: 29
Registered: Dec-08
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| Posted on Saturday, June 27, 2009 - 07:39 pm: |
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I have a Rockford P200.2 and I run either an old JL 10w6 or a Kicker CVR 12. I built the box for the JL myself. Its 1 cu.ft @ 33 Hz. Its built out of particle board.
The CVR's box is a pre-fab box for two subs that I modified for just one ported. Its like 2.3 cu.ft @ 32 Hz
I was just wondering cuz word is getting around at my school that I can build boxes well, so I want to be making a reliable product
Mainly the reason I asked was cuz I made a box for my friend and it kinda fell apart. It was a 6th order box for two Kicker L5 12s. The back was 6.5 cu.ft @ 32Hz and the front was 3.5 cu.ft @ 44Hz. I didn't use bracing and it sounded good and loud for the first couple days...then fail. |
Gold Member Username: Deadrabit
Marionville,
MO
Post Number: 1944
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 01:33 am: |
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advantech and baltic b are the strongest. really baltic is prolly best but it cost A LOT!
advantech is good but very hard to work with
trupan is what i am using to make a freinds box, its ligher and close to the same as mdf.
i say mdf or advantech. after using different kinds of wood i prolly will never use mdf again, but it is cheap if u don't use advantech(i think they are abotu the same price)
DON'T USE Particle Board
it sucks. i am actually going to get 5 or 6 different kinda of wood and do a drop test and make a vid to show everyone which is strongest
if u made a box and it fell apart... that is not good
glue everything and screw that baby togather good! resin all the corners!
what works good for braces is all thread! run some threw ur box and from the outside get some screws and make them tight. its like ur louding ur box, takes out the flex very good
gorilla glue works good, i use elmers wood glue. they are both strong. i can glue something togather and after it drys the box will break before the glue gives out. |
Bronze Member Username: Sundownz
Mooresville,
NC
USA
Post Number: 75
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 11:11 am: |
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I prefer birch due to strength to weight. So much lighter than an MDF box but birch is somewhere around 3x stiffer. |
Bronze Member Username: Sundownz
Mooresville,
NC
USA
Post Number: 76
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 11:12 am: |
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You, of course, pay for it... so I don't always use birch due to the cost. If funds were unlimited it would be birch all the way! |
Gold Member Username: Hdubb
Team Revolution
Post Number: 4171
Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 08:25 pm: |
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anyone use high density fiberboard? hdf? i wish i could get my hands on some to try.birch is awesome if its in the budget |
Diamond Member Username: Wingmanalive
Www.stainles...
.ecrater.com
Post Number: 20715
Registered: Jun-06
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| Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 08:36 pm: |
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Concrete. |
Gold Member Username: Joebruce
TC Sounds/DLS
Post Number: 2605
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 08:54 pm: |
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"word is getting around at my school that I can build boxes well"
"I made a box for my friend and it kinda fell apart"
Im confused? Did he just pwn himself? |
Gold Member Username: Hittin1
TEAM REVOLUTION
Lake Charles...
Post Number: 3514
Registered: May-07
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| Posted on Monday, June 29, 2009 - 09:24 pm: |
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you think he pwned himself now, wait till he takes dBLK seriously.
As for the HDF. I know probox uses it. That is the only prefab that i would recommend and that would only be in certain circumstances |
Gold Member Username: Deadrabit
Marionville,
MO
Post Number: 1952
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 09:58 am: |
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never used hdf |
Gold Member Username: Bernymac
Phnom Penh
Cambodia
Post Number: 4692
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 01:38 pm: |
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Gorilla glue is strong, but I would never use it again. Its messy and it foams up. Just use regular wood glue. The white kind. |
Bronze Member Username: Simple_smith
Lapeer,
Michigan
United States
Post Number: 34
Registered: Dec-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2009 - 04:49 pm: |
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TWiZTiD,
The first boxes i made were fairly small, less than 3 cu.ft, so with proper construction there was no need for bracing cuz they were small. Those boxes were good.
Then I made a noob mistake and designed and built a box with a net volume of about 10cu.ft and I didn't use bracing and it flexed a ton and it "kinda fell apart" |
