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Gold Member Username: Frkkevin
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| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 08:53 pm: |
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Just a good read in case anyone didn't know what exactly XBL^2 was and the advantages it has.
http://www.rawacoustics.com/CMS__About_Technology.html |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1
Lagrange,
GA
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Post Number: 1865
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| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 09:18 pm: |
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I just don't like XBL^2. The subwoofer was just to fragile in my experience. Maybe I just had bad luck, who knows.
Kevin |
Gold Member Username: Southernrebel
Monroe,
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| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 09:24 pm: |
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All in all, I've had great look out of XBL^2 woofers. But I have seen quite a few people kill them. The 1600wrms rating on Brahma's really set that off, they really only needed ~1000-1200wrms of clean power and sounded amazing. Adire did have some glue troubles at one time though.
I have only delt w/ XXX's and Brahma's though. Both gave me far above expected results.
They just didn't need 1600wrms all the time.
I have heard that some other XBL2 subs that have come out are crap though. |
Gold Member Username: Southernrebel
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| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 09:26 pm: |
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Kevin,
Just wondering...what subs did you have bad luck with?
And what kind of power? |
Gold Member Username: Snarl2004
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| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 09:36 pm: |
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is adire patented XBL^2 technology then how were xxx's made? |
Gold Member Username: Jkidder
Worlds gunna end,
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| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 10:19 pm: |
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nice find. bookmarked
the cisco kid |
Gold Member Username: 04redmach1
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Post Number: 1866
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| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 10:59 pm: |
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All of the Adire subs haha. OF course it was the MKIII and up models. The subs to get out of alignment with ease I did notice.
Kevin |
Gold Member Username: Frkkevin
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| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 11:12 pm: |
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After the MKII the Brahmas had a poor build..
I'm running the 04/05 XXX .. no telling how long it has been used since I bought it used but I've got no issues with it. In all reality if you do not know what your doing you will blow any sub/amp no matter what type of technology it used, eventually :P |
Gold Member Username: Hdubb
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| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 12:32 am: |
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re and other companies pay adire royalities to use the tech. |
Silver Member Username: Treez
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Post Number: 381
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| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 10:47 am: |
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Does anyone know if that was the same technology employed by Ascendant Audio? |
Gold Member Username: Loc_out
Santa Ana,
Ca
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| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 11:55 am: |
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Treez i am about 90% sure they used it on the older sub's like the avalanche.
I have a 04/05 XXX and i love it. It gets loud with only 1000RMS. |
Gold Member Username: Jkidder
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| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 12:07 pm: |
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yeah the ava is xbl^2 and i believe the tempest might be also. didn't scott start re, then aa, then fi??
the cisco kid |
Silver Member Username: Denim
SoundSolutionsAudio.com,
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| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 12:48 pm: |
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Yes, Scott did start AA/RE/Fi. The older XXX used XBL2, along with the Adire Brahma. But as Kevin mentioned, the later models were fragile. XBL2 is a love it or hate it sound. The motor design is not the best for super high power installs from what I have learned. Also, many of people describe the sound as dry and lifeless, where some love that non-localizeable sound, others don't. Many car audio people prefer subs that have certain low levels of natural distortion due to their design. These drivers give a fuller sound to the ear in most cases. But keep in mind there are a bunch of different motor technologies and they all have their positives and negatives. Personally, I am not a fan of the XBL2 sound, at least from the many different Brahma/XXX/Adire'esq installs. |
Gold Member Username: Southernrebel
Monroe,
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| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 01:22 pm: |
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I have heard people talk about that 'dry' sound from XBL2, but I loved my Brahma MKII 10". 1.6cuft tuned to 35hz on a JBL bp1200.1 and it was golden. Very flat response. And yes, it was hard to really tell where the sub was located.
I never had a single person say my Brahma sounded 'dry'. I do admit though, on some songs it was almost too clean and clear. It sounded like a drum set in the back of my truck.
I've heard a few Brahma setups that did sound strange though. I guess it was in the install/vehicle though.
I understand that love/hate the sound thing though. Some people love how L7's sound, I hate it  All in the person's ear and mind I guess. |
Gold Member Username: Frkkevin
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| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 03:59 pm: |
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if your spl you'll hate them, sq guys will love them.. its simple
for sq you want a flat warm response.. not something boomy or peaky |
Gold Member Username: Snarl2004
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| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 12:06 am: |
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i love my 18"ava |
