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Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 362
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 04:28 pm: |
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While browsing through the forum, i've noticed a trend that may not seem that apparent, but is happening nevertheless.
Over the last few months, many of us ecoustic members, have been changing audio equipment specifically subs, as often as we take out the trash.
I am unwilling to accept the idea that most of us who are really serious about car audio are unsatisfied with the level of performance we receive from our equipment. Maybe we are left with a feeling of inferiority when a fellow ecoustic member purchases (what we consider)a better piece of equipment. And in a bid to be better, we spend the extra $$$$ taking us a step closer to royalty, while for others they're worse off than before..
Does that officially make our equipment obsolete. Are some of the changes really necessary? Do we ever regret selling our previous equipment in a bid to sound better or louder and are bitterly disappointed?
I have been intrigued by chad lee's sub switcheroo and needless to say i've been doing the same. Yes I've gone from R-type to w7 to imax to fi to Mag's and im pondering an alpha or revo. Maybe i should just get me an axis..., but then i'd probably want the lms too...
I've upgraded amps from rockford to jl slash series and i'm presently getting some mmats. I'll probably be upgrading to zapco reference then to the C2k's maybe after trying the dls a-series....
So then i ask myself WHAT NEXT? 
I'd like to hear some opinions. |
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Silver Member Username: Drant19
DUB-C,
TX
Post Number: 863
Registered: Aug-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 04:33 pm: |
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what next??? do an all Sony setup...should SLAM! |
Gold Member Username: Big_edge_head
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
Post Number: 2099
Registered: Mar-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 04:34 pm: |
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its like a curse |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 363
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 04:36 pm: |
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Yeah stavenmist, i guess your probably pondering a change in setup soon....
I like the game, but its a serious addiction. |
Gold Member Username: Big_edge_head
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
Post Number: 2100
Registered: Mar-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 04:38 pm: |
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well....not exactly. I'm set on my amps, HU, and comps. Thinking about a new substage. I've had my 2.5's for a year now and kinda want something new.
But in the last 6 months Ive switched out both my amps, components, and my HU. |
Gold Member Username: Livin_loud
COD4 Addict ...
Level 2 pre...
Post Number: 2444
Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 04:39 pm: |
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only switch i've made is from my kickers to my Fi 
mostly because i don't have the $ for something else lol |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 364
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 04:46 pm: |
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"well....not exactly. I'm set on my amps, HU, and comps. Thinking about a new substage. I've had my 2.5's for a year now and kinda want something new. "
Good for you, im saving in hopes to buy a used denom/rockford made hu or the alpine cda-7990 (f1 status). Yeah i am hoping to buy the seas lotus reference for around ~ a grand... but until then the cycle continues...
I wake to the sight of a subwoofer and i go to bed with one next to me .... so i guess i am fuelling my own passion. |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 365
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 04:48 pm: |
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Trust me Eric, when you want it that badly, you are somehow able to squeeze the extra $$ to make the purchase.. |
Gold Member Username: Mixmastaspig
Team RD,
Canada
Post Number: 1645
Registered: Sep-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 04:55 pm: |
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I've only done a few subs so far:
Type S = Type R = Premiers = RD and then I might be going RD again
Amps have been a bit more:
Kenwood = Rockford = Sony = Sony = Helix = Exile = Earthquake = RD
It's just you need more power and more bass, but for now I think I am happy with the power and subs. Just going top be grabbing some Alphas from Steve here as my Elites sound like p00p with music...lol
I will be tossing the elites in my little Ford Escort so I should hit some decent numbers. |
Gold Member Username: Safe_cracker
Chicago,
IL
US
Post Number: 4466
Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 04:58 pm: |
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I have probably switched out the least of everyone. I am what you call a tweaker, person who likes to perfect what he has until all gain is at a standstill. I think most of it is just bandwagon and everyone seems they like to jump aboard. Polo.. |
Gold Member Username: Southernrebel
Monroe,
Louisiana
2 DD3515s, 2...
Post Number: 6365
Registered: Mar-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 05:06 pm: |
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The only sub I regret selling:
Adire Brahma MKII 10"
That lil guy was awesome. |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 366
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 05:16 pm: |
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Yeah Canaan, i actually passed up a deal on a similar sub because of model number mix up.
I was told the mk III and IV sucks, and i was told the tumult was comparable to the re HC, which i had the opportunity to listen to.
I was never sure what the logo was trying to depict though...
was it a bull with a jockey attempting to saddle it... or someone attempting to putt a golf ball while riding a buffalo 
Polo, How do u actually resist the temptation to try other stuff... |
Gold Member Username: Safe_cracker
Chicago,
IL
US
Post Number: 4469
Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 05:50 pm: |
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Until someone comes out and says they have something performs better than my 5200/IA40 (16V daily) setup, there isn't really any need to switch. Actually I have switched amps/boxes like you guys switch subs but now I think I have reached a platue in life lOl. Polo. |
Diamond Member Username: Bestmankind
Post Number: 20751
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 06:10 pm: |
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i haven't changed my stuff in awhile now.
but when i do change, its cause i like to try some new stuff out. |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 367
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 06:28 pm: |
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Chad lee, have you ever made a purchase and really wanted to hold on to it, despite the urge to keep trying new stuff.
There must have been some deep regret you had after making a sale....
c'mon fess us ...
I actually thought you were gonna buy another rl-s 12 or a single 15. I hope my experience with mmats is not as short-lived as yours.lol
Also, my guess is that the Hertz Mille will not stick in your hands for long.
Im eagerly anticipating your review of the dd9115, when you do purchase it.
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Diamond Member Username: Bestmankind
Post Number: 20752
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 06:32 pm: |
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only regret i have is selling the audiocontrol epicenter. cause after i sell it, i end up buying a new one then sell it again and buy another new one. its cause at first i liked it then i didn't like it. after i change the sub i feel like trying it again so i buy it again. then i don't like it so i sell it. lol. hope that makes some sense. hahaha.
i doubt i'll ever get the 9115. rob has talked me out of it. |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 368
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 06:40 pm: |
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I was really looking forward to it... lol
Why dont you just keep the epic. installed and pop in the controller only when you need it? It's less hassel...
I know that more processors connected in a signal chain introduces noise into the signal, but audiocontrol processors have S/N and THD values that limit that effect.
So just hang on to it. |
Diamond Member Username: Bestmankind
Post Number: 20753
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 06:42 pm: |
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yeah i know that now lol. but i don't need the epicenter and i doubt i'll ever need it.
however i am so fricking interested in the alpine headunits cause i want to try out the imprint stuff. lol. sometimes i can't sleep at night because of it. |
Silver Member Username: Drant19
DUB-C,
TX
Post Number: 867
Registered: Aug-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 06:53 pm: |
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"sometimes i can't sleep at night because of it."
ditto, but usually im thinking about pu$$y lmao. |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 369
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 06:57 pm: |
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With that sub and a properly tuned box, you're right...lol
It wouldnt be long before you get your hands on it(ALP).
I would hate to know that at 1am you suddenly had the urge to wander into an audio store, to pick up the unit.... |
Gold Member Username: Tejcurrent
Post Number: 1342
Registered: Apr-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 06:58 pm: |
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I have run Fi BTL 18s since October of 2006. They're the only subs I plan on running until I mess one up and need to recone it. Then I might buy the new BTLs.
I've run Memphis amps since about Jan of 2007, and unless I get a hellacious deal on sundown 7ks I'll be running these amps for a long time.
I think people switch subs so much because they hope for something better instead of deciding what they expect from their setup and working with what they have. Most people would rather use one box for one 12, then make a totally different box for their new one and think the huge difference is from the sub itself. |
Gold Member Username: Tejcurrent
Post Number: 1343
Registered: Apr-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 07:04 pm: |
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Like polo said, it's a bandwagon thing. Everyone wants audiopulse now, it's the same deal.
I think everyone intersted in car audio should right a list of their goals. I wanted loud, I found the BTLS and while there may be a sub or two that may gain a few 10ths on the meter in a swap-out, the customer service is so good with Fi unless someone paid me to sport another brands product I wouldn't. Like I said- figure out what you really want and save up for it.
Without having a bunch of subs and doing a direct swap out in the same enclosure it's not really fair to compare them anyway. |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 370
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 07:14 pm: |
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x2
And its so much easier to swap, since many new or improved subs have very similar t/s parameters.
Its great feeling when your contented with your subs performance
Arriving at the pinnacle lol... |
Diamond Member Username: Bestmankind
Post Number: 20755
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 08:03 pm: |
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"Like polo said, it's a bandwagon thing. Everyone wants audiopulse now, it's the same deal. "
i got it before the "bandwagon" started.  |
Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamic
San Diego, California
Post Number: 3945
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 08:27 pm: |
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Well... I was telling everyone here about TC/AP, Hex silks, and DLS amps two years ago. It just takes people awhile to trust someone enough to value their opinion on things. So, I am sorry about the recent bandwagon because I started it. A new one is just beginning, stay tuned |
Gold Member Username: Hdubb
Team Revolution
Post Number: 3622
Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 09:19 pm: |
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lol. i tried a ton of equipment...it is hard to keep up and be competitive with old equipment....i have had 11 subs and 9 motors in my kitchen at one point lol...a month ago maybe??? |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 371
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 09:25 pm: |
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So true... lol... It wont be long before 1/3 of ecoustics members claim their bragging rights on the AP sub. |
Gold Member Username: Safe_cracker
Chicago,
IL
US
Post Number: 4470
Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 09:56 pm: |
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^^^ Rigghhtt but 98% won't be a TC Sounds sub Polo...
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Gold Member Username: Hdubb
Team Revolution
Post Number: 3623
Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 10:11 pm: |
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i want 2 5200 15s in the worst ways |
Gold Member Username: Snarl2004
Digital Design 9515,
Massive Audi...
Post Number: 2363
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 10:19 pm: |
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i went from a audiobahn to 2 aq sd2.5s to a dd9515...
next are xxx's. I think im gunna try 2 10"s cuz i think it would look sick in my truck |
Gold Member Username: Bernymac
Cambodia
Post Number: 3931
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 10:23 pm: |
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I'm lucky that I get to hear Chads setups. That way I don't have to purchase my own equipment to test out. If I hear something that I like that he has, I consider it. This gives me the chance to listen to subs without having to pay for it, its great! lol. Thanks Chad, we still have to meet up so I can hear the revo. Also treez, hope you got my email, JL amp has been shipped out for awhile now. Should arrive thursday. |
Diamond Member Username: Bestmankind
Post Number: 20759
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 10:27 pm: |
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hahaha berny. just because you said that ima sell my revo tomorow. lol. |
Gold Member Username: Nyyfan13
15 MAG
USA
Post Number: 9545
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 10:29 pm: |
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First system I bought to have a nice little system. Now I'm selling it and slowly building a system I will keep for a year or two. |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 372
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 10:36 pm: |
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Yeah Chad you're on a roll.
To be honest berny mac, i nearly forgot i purchased that amp from you. lol... Thanks for the reminder....
I'm hoping to bridge the rear channels and use it on a id10v3. until i decide on comps.
If chad lee had purchased the ID xs6.5, i would have a review to work with. lol..
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Platinum Member Username: Wingmanalive
A pic is worth
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Post Number: 16506
Registered: Jun-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 10:57 pm: |
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It's a never ending circle. Get used to it.....or die. |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 373
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 11:06 pm: |
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Polo, i guess that sub gets more TLC than the wifee lol..
Its a beefy looking sub...
"lol. i tried a ton of equipment...it is hard to keep up and be competitive with old equipment....i have had 11 subs and 9 motors in my kitchen at one point lol...a month ago maybe??? "
hunterw, i dont totally agree with your statement. And im sure im not alone when i say that purchasing new equipment does not guarantee you a place in the spotlight(whether it be sq, sql or spl).
No doubt there will be great expectation for a better performance, but is that always the outcome? Is a better performance guaranteed? I think not. Unless one has really done their home work, the upgrade in most cases tends to be for comestic purposes.... e.g upgrade to a carbon fibre dustcap, a custom painted basket, inverted dustcap, a triple stacked magnet, quad coils .....etc
Mmats has produced really phenominal subwoofers; mainly the dreadnauts and juggernauts. They haven't produced any drivers since then and im sure that in a properly designed spl applications they should be on par and in some cases louder than; the JBL's, Mojos, re sx's,MT's, btl's, atomics, rd's, hdc's, treo's (just to name a few)that have become a household name.
It all comes down to the install, which factors in every possible variable that could affect performance.
If what you're saying is true, many Re xxx and Adire audio owners would have sold their subs for the new hype...
You can still be competitive with old equipment... Trying to keep up with the trend is your decision....
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Gold Member Username: Andrew571
Stillwater/Edmond,
Oklahoma
USA
Post Number: 1798
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 11:12 pm: |
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It really is an addiction. I feel like im behind times when I DON'T have an audio project going on... Like after a complete a setup and wang it for a few months... I feel like unaccomplisht once again and change things up a bit! :D
I love this sh!t |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 386
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 09:43 am: |
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Well, that's why we're all here.....to satisify our addiction... |
Platinum Member Username: Wingmanalive
A pic is worth
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Post Number: 16543
Registered: Jun-06
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| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 12:41 pm: |
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Advice is great but the best lessons are the ones learned through experiences/failures. The ones who swap out so often are IMO the ones who want to hear it all and have a better perspective on the hobby.
Every child falls when learning to walk. They have to. One of my favorite quotes from a great movie: (Sorry it's so long lol.)
"So if I asked you about art, you'd probably give me the skinny on every art book ever written. Michelangelo, you know a lot about him. Life's work, political aspirations, him and the pope, séxual orientations, the whole works, right? But I'll bet you can't tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel. You've never actually stood there and looked up at that beautiful ceiling; seen that. If I ask you about women, you'd probably give me a syllabus about your personal favorites. You may have even been laid a few times. But you can't tell me what it feels like to wake up next to a woman and feel truly happy. You're a tough kid. And I'd ask you about war, you'd probably throw Shakespeare at me, right, "once more unto the breach dear friends." But you've never been near one. You've never held your best friend's head in your lap, watch him gasp his last breath looking to you for help. I'd ask you about love, you'd probably quote me a sonnet. But you've never looked at a woman and been totally vulnerable. Known someone that could level you with her eyes, feeling like God put an angel on earth just for you. Who could rescue you from the depths of hell. And you wouldn't know what it's like to be her angel, to have that love for her, be there forever, through anything, through cancer. And you wouldn't know about sleeping sitting up in the hospital room for two months, holding her hand, because the doctors could see in your eyes, that the terms "visiting hours" don't apply to you. You don't know about real loss, 'cause it only occurs when you've loved something more than you love yourself. And I doubt you've ever dared to love anybody that much. And look at you... I don't see an intelligent, confident man... I see a cocky, scared sh1tless kid. But you're a genius Will. No one denies that. No one could possibly understand the depths of you. But you presume to know everything about me because you saw a painting of mine, and you ripped my fÜcking life apart." |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 388
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 01:47 pm: |
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That sure was a mouthful... but all reality.
I doubt that anyone who lived through those experiences can live a normal live ever again. It would require enormous will power to even want to exist.
For those who survive, they do it for the sake of their siblings,spouse or a dream that may never become reality, but sometimes pursuing the dream is more fullfilling than the dream itself.
Nice post Paul.... |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin
1 15 = 149.1DBs
Trinidad & T...
Post Number: 13735
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 02:17 pm: |
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well i am 1 of the few who hardly changes often
still have my premier 860 going in 3.5yrs same as my faithful alpine f545 amp & i got a orion 2500d about 2 too
over past 3-4yrs i changed my subs about 5 times
changed my door speakers only twice
looking for more sq so im selling my few mths old dd9512 here in my country soon for more daily easy going sql >>> 2 10s RE SE in a few wks time ... |
Gold Member Username: Hdubb
Team Revolution
Post Number: 3639
Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2008 - 10:14 pm: |
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"hunterw, i dont totally agree with your statement. And im sure im not alone when i say that purchasing new equipment does not guarantee you a place in the spotlight(whether it be sq, sql or spl).
No doubt there will be great expectation for a better performance, but is that always the outcome? Is a better performance guaranteed? I think not. Unless one has really done their home work, the upgrade in most cases tends to be for comestic purposes.... e.g upgrade to a carbon fibre dustcap, a custom painted basket, inverted dustcap, a triple stacked magnet, quad coils .....etc
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no but you do have to try it, just in case it could be, and usually it is...and i care nothing of cosmetics or the lime light, i buy, test and rebuild because the love of the sport, to gain knowledge, and to know what works best for ME...
if i wanted cosmetic subs i buy a little girly sub like polos! LOL. and actually the best looking sub i ever played with was one of the best sounding ive ever heard...tc sounds oem 10...
though i do understand where your coming from, i honestly do this for myself,and always have. =)
"Advice is great but the best lessons are the ones learned through experiences/failures. The ones who swap out so often are IMO the ones who want to hear it all and have a better perspective on the hobby.
so true grandpa |
Gold Member Username: Jkidder
Worlds gunna end,
In
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Post Number: 3542
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| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 12:32 am: |
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paul thats robin williams in good will hunting |
Gold Member Username: Jkidder
Worlds gunna end,
In
2012
Post Number: 3543
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 12:36 am: |
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i love that movie man. robin williams is the best
the cisco kid |
Platinum Member Username: Wingmanalive
A pic is worth
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Post Number: 16555
Registered: Jun-06
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| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 01:06 am: |
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Great movie. That's why I quoted it. |
Gold Member Username: Skibum12189
Cleveland
Post Number: 2833
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 01:13 am: |
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like a lot have said, it's an addiction and an expensive hobby for sure.
for me, half the fun is installing it. there's nothing like running wire and hooking everything up, and firing it up for the first time. it seriously gives me a lot of satisfaction working my butt off to build a unique enclosure that is neat and just, well, fluckin cool in general.
also, for me. i blew my first sub. the cheap replacement i got made me want new ones. so i got 2 loud subs. they lacked the sq i wanted so i got 2 sq subs. haha they lacked the spl i wanted, so i got one loudazz 15. and honestly, i think i've found the sub. all my friends and my parents joke with me about "changing stuff up again?" but i love it.
like i said, i love installing the stuff and then just bumpin to it. pretty much all my friends except for one see it as the biggest waste of money, but i love it. |
Silver Member Username: B3n07
Louisville,
Ky
USA
Post Number: 899
Registered: Jul-07
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| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 01:41 am: |
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i did alot of changes since i got int to the game
subs
pep subs and road mastersubs- flea market subs - kicker cvr 10's- to the now work in progress setup 2 AQ hdc315
amps
legacy- pyle- thunder- infinity- and soon to be AQ2200 and kicker 350.4
its a game and its hard to not upgrade when your have the money or when you have bought a new car and you want that sound you use to have its like and addiction that you crave |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Its not loud til it he...
Post Number: 390
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 02:41 am: |
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Ben that is quite a leap you've taken there...
Kicker cvr10s to 2 AQ hdc315...
Good luck dude. |
