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Gold Member Username: Nyyfan13
15 MAG
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:04 pm: |
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http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4422437#post4422437 |
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Gold Member Username: Big_edge_head
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
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Post Number: 1798
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:21 pm: |
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Looks kinda ugly. I was expecting better. |
Gold Member Username: Jkidder
Gunshine ,
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:23 pm: |
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good post yanks. those are insanely ugly. SI fvucked up big time.... |
Gold Member Username: Nyyfan13
15 MAG
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Post Number: 9087
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:27 pm: |
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Yea I'm not a fan of the looks but if they perform how they say they will, then I guess people can overlook the looks |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19762
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:32 pm: |
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see thats the thing yanks. didn't the new ones drop alot in price compared to the originals? makes me wonder if they went the cheap route to get more sales thus sacrificing quality. |
Gold Member Username: Stateprop486
PA
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:34 pm: |
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lol they tried make there subs look diff then all the other subs out and they sure did accomplished that. ITS SUPER UGLY!!! |
Gold Member Username: Ctmike
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:34 pm: |
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i don't care what they look like, i already have the money sitting in paypal ready for one. and at the price they are going to sell at, i might just get two.
and honestly, how many people run their subs inverted anyways? |
Silver Member Username: Phil_salisbury
Post Number: 625
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:38 pm: |
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I just don't get you people, what the he!! does the look/appearance have anything to do with how a subwoofer performs, it's inside a fr!ggin box where you won't see the d@mn thing???
I used to have an old 66 nova that looking like a royal piece of sh!t, but it didn't stop me from kickin the sh!t out of Fords, Mopars and Dodges. |
Gold Member Username: Nyyfan13
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:49 pm: |
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Yea they are going to be about $275 shipped if I recall correctly. I hope they didn't go the cheap route Chad, but knowing SI, I doubt they did. I'm sure these subs will perform as expected and could even cause more people wanting slimmer subs. Who knows, maybe we are starting to see the start of a new trend. |
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Silver Member Username: 94_toy
Post Number: 190
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:50 pm: |
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It may look ugly but u cant see it unless its inverted. I wonder wat the cone looks like though cause its not shown |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19763
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:55 pm: |
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i like the looks. i love that shallow mount sub as well. finally a good company comes out with a nice shallow mount sub. |
Gold Member Username: Drivingreckless
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:56 pm: |
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"I just don't get you people, what the he!! does the look/appearance have anything to do with how a subwoofer performs, it's inside a fr!ggin box where you won't see the d@mn thing??? "
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Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22s
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Post Number: 4947
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:12 pm: |
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it just looks cheap in general and the price of the sub dropped 50%... i never thought i would complain about that, but i think SI dropped the ball. that mag is like pure sq now.. its like a shitty w6... |
Gold Member Username: Ctmike
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Post Number: 5931
Registered: Feb-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:14 pm: |
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how can you say the new mag. is like a shitty w6? have you heard one? know someone that has one and did a comparision to the w6? |
Gold Member Username: Drivingreckless
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:16 pm: |
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no reece hasnt hes just thinks b/c it doesnt have a traditional 12 spoke basket or a magnet that is extremely huge it must be a terrible subwoofer....judging a book by its cover!?!? |
Gold Member Username: Ctmike
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:25 pm: |
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"judging a book by its cover!?!?"
x2. i think it's funny how people are bitc_hing that the new mag. looks ugly so it must be cheap/poor quality/not a good sub without any type of knowledge or experience with it at all. there was even a test that showed it had better output on the same power as the last mag. (if i recall corrctly) and had better sq/better lows.
imo better performance/more efficient/better sq for a cheaper price, less weight, less power requirement, and a smaller space requirement is a huge plus, no matter what the basket looks like. i'll never see it once in the box anyways. all this from the same well known/respected company, i don't think you could go wrong. |
Gold Member Username: Drivingreckless
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:29 pm: |
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^the glass is half full good job mike |
Gold Member Username: Hdubb
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:30 pm: |
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well it will be great for small area apllications. if that's what you need. the mounting depth is def. plus.but not a sub that is for me. I thought they should just make it a new different line and keep making the mag. def an sq sub. |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:34 pm: |
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ctmike, i never said because of the looks it should be cheaper. i was simply pointing out the fact that the previous mag 12 price tag was much more expensive than the new one. now they must of done something to reduced the cost like use cheaper parts. its just a speculation. i never said it was for real though cause you and i both know i haven't heard the new one yet. so relax man. |
Gold Member Username: Drivingreckless
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:36 pm: |
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lol its funny how people associate cost with performance....
the AQ HD3c is cheaper then the old HD3 so it MUST lack in performance....did these thoughts arrise???? i bet if the new mag looked the same but was cheaper none of you would think much of it other then "yes a great sub for less" |
Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22s
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:41 pm: |
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i did make a rash judgement but they go from a great sql sub to a tiny little sq sub... just not my thing. i am guessing it will sound worse than a w6 though...
david, david, david... you do realize you just proved chad's point. REGARDLESS of performance the sub is going to be much more cheaply made. you don't make a driver louder, have better sq, and be tiny and reduce the cost by 50% without cutting corners somewhere.
as for it being louder than the mag on the same power... are you talking 300 watts mike? i thought i saw they were making these ~600 and said its not wise to overpower by much... |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:43 pm: |
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point out where i said because it was cheaper the performance was too. |
Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22s
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:46 pm: |
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no im saying cheaper parts chad... |
Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22s
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:46 pm: |
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the cost HAD to be cut somewhere... unless SI just robbed everyone blind before... |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:47 pm: |
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no reece my comment was for david. |
Gold Member Username: Drivingreckless
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:48 pm: |
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"point out where i said because it was cheaper the performance was too."
point out were i said chad lee. |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:50 pm: |
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i was the only one that mention about the cost. everyone else just talked about the ugly basket (which i happen to like). also you made that statement right after mine so i assumed. if it wasn't towards me then my bad dude. |
Silver Member Username: Phil_salisbury
Post Number: 626
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:53 pm: |
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When Malik came by saturday to pick up his box for the Mag 15 were got to talking about how car audio folks associate looks/costs to performance.
I told him I don't give a sh!t how something looks as long as it performs what it's designed to do.
And here we are talking about this and I can help but wonder how many folks p!ssed away money on subs they thought were all that only to b!tch later that they totally sucked and weren't worth what they spent for what they thought they would be bass/performance wise.
It amazes me how one or many peoples perception of a few people's opinions can make or break a product without any creditable foundation what so ever.
It like movie critic's, they either like to dislike a movie for whatever reason, therefore, they most know how the majority will like or dislike the movie.
I guess the same holds true for subwoofer critic's ......... LOL, WTF!!!!! |
Gold Member Username: Nyyfan13
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:54 pm: |
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Who was the statement in regard to then Dave? |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:59 pm: |
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phil its funny you say that cause no one said it was gonna perform bad. people were just expressing their opinions on the basket. everyone knows from si reputation from the previous subs that the there won't be any question when it comes to performance. |
Gold Member Username: Stateprop486
PA
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Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:59 pm: |
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Yeah but LOOKS comes along with whatever your buying...whether it be a house, car, cell phones, clothes, sub box, and etc....
lol why do you think they make new cars every year with better looks because thats what some people want along wit the performance...and there are those out there who doesnt care what it looks like...so everyone is allowed to have their own opinion, without opinions nothing will ever change... lol. |
Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22s
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:01 pm: |
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we got so caught up talking about the mag we havent even acknowledged how ugly the BM is... it looks like a volfenhag...
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Gold Member Username: Drivingreckless
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:04 pm: |
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it was obviously directed towards chad...but then i noticed he didnt say that directly but his statement seemed to imply it by like reece put it "cutting corners" |
Silver Member Username: Phil_salisbury
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:08 pm: |
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OK, Chad, my bad, but you did say " makes me wonder if they went the cheap route to get more sales thus sacrificing quality."
Now, generally speaking and I'm not assuming anything, thus, when quality is sacrificed, what generally happens??? |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:12 pm: |
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i guess i need to be more specific. but i thought you guys know me well enough that i aint' that naive to think you have to pay more money for performance. |
Gold Member Username: Drivingreckless
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:12 pm: |
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"Now, generally speaking and I'm not assuming anything, thus, when quality is sacrificed, what generally happens???"
IM GUESSING PERFORMANCE IS SACRAFICED!!!!
"i thought you guys know me well enough that i aint' that naive to think you have to pay more money for performance."
guess we dont |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:20 pm: |
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no you don't then. |
Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22s
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:22 pm: |
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"i thought you guys know me well enough that i aint' that naive to think you have to pay more money for performance."
since when do you not get what you pay for? not necessarily saying because something is more expensive its better, but we you look from company to company and you know the quality is going to be there, i would honestly feel safer with a more expensive products. ex. i would rather own DD than AQ. |
Silver Member Username: Phil_salisbury
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:26 pm: |
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Ahhhhh, Fug it, this sh!t can rage on and on.
The new mag will speak for itself. |
Gold Member Username: Drivingreckless
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:27 pm: |
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"Ahhhhh, Fug it, this sh!t can rage on and on.
The new mag will speak for itself."
i guess well just wait for a review |
Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22s
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:28 pm: |
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i'm interested to see how it performs from an unbiased user. |
Silver Member Username: Denim
SoundSolutionsAudio.com,
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:36 pm: |
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The new MAG is not really meant for the average ecoustics/CA/ROE/SMD member. The amount of people who run less then 1000 watts, use a small sealed box, and worry about mounting depth, is a small fraction of the population on the Internet crowd. I am not saying running 1000+ watts to a larger sub in a ported enclosure is bad, just a different market segment. |
Gold Member Username: Ctmike
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:37 pm: |
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even more good news:
"The new Mag's are going to be $249 shipped and the BM's are going to be $149 shipped." |
Gold Member Username: Big_edge_head
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:43 pm: |
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Damn. This thread blew up from when I first saw it in 5th hour.
I skimmed the whole thing and I agree that if it performs well than whats the difference.
But that doesnt mean we cant have an opinion on how it looks... |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:49 pm: |
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phil, how about this. okay you have a $500 hooker and a $50 hooker. they both can perform their duties but why spend more money on the better hooker? quality. lol. |
Gold Member Username: Drivingreckless
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:54 pm: |
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sounds to me like thats an everyday dilema for you chad.... |
Silver Member Username: Phil_salisbury
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:56 pm: |
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Who said anything about no one can have an opinion????
If the sole reason for buying or not buying a subwoofer because it looks ugly, then, don't buy it based on that, it's that simple.
Yes, I will admit that appearances are everything, but, I am not going to base my decision on buying something solely on the appearance/looks.
That's MY OPINION. |
Silver Member Username: Phil_salisbury
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 04:00 pm: |
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Chad, if your making analogies that hooker's are like subwoofers, sounds like personal problem, not my problem. |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 04:03 pm: |
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just trying to lighten the mood man. but i had no idea you and drivingreckless were on your periods. sorry i even brought this up. |
Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22s
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 04:04 pm: |
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Haha... Don't get all worked up, Phil. |
Silver Member Username: Kyle_lowe
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 04:05 pm: |
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i like the price
i would like to see some pictures of the cone
i might run a couple of those sealed instead of an rlp 18 |
Gold Member Username: Drivingreckless
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 04:07 pm: |
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"just trying to lighten the mood man. but i had no idea you and drivingreckless were on your periods. sorry i even brought this up."
ROFL yeah im on my period chad an your the tampon im bleeding on hows that metaphor for you |
Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22s
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 04:14 pm: |
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a similie is a comparison using like or as.... |
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