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Silver Member Username: Yamahabanshee1
Paulding,
Ohio
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| Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 10:48 pm: |
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so how are these daily on 1500rms. ive heard they suck on the low end and if im not careful i will pop it? true? give me ur opinion |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1
Lagrange,
GA
USA
Post Number: 1711
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 10:54 pm: |
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Well on 1500 rms you will not have an issue with the subs period. They have a little higher Fs than some subs, but at 1500 rms you could tune down to mid 30's and keep a F3 of around low 30's and be ok. Just set your subsonic filter at or a tad above the F3 of your box.
Kevin |
Gold Member Username: Snarl2004
Digital Design 9515,
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| Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 10:58 pm: |
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1500 rms isnt enough. ive got a 9515 on 3000rms daily. If you get a 9515 i wouldnt do under 2200. They are actually not that bad on the low end. i like it. ya my AA avalanche gets a lot lower but my 9515 hits the lows supprisingly good.
As long as you give it clean power and dont send it a clipped signal you will not "pop it" these subs are made extraamly well any it takes a lot to blow them (unless you send it a clipped signal)
great sub deffinitly worth the money highly reccomended |
Silver Member Username: Drant19
DUB-C,
TX
Post Number: 587
Registered: Aug-07
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| Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 10:59 pm: |
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may sound noobish but..
"keep a F3 of around low 30's and be ok"
F3???lol |
Gold Member Username: Jtown
Team RD,
Texas
Post Number: 2676
Registered: Mar-07
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| Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 11:03 pm: |
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how low, hz wise, your sub can safely play, as I understand it. |
Gold Member Username: Big_edge_head
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
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| Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 11:07 pm: |
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F3 is the subs roll off point |
Gold Member Username: Southernrebel
Monroe,
Louisiana
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| Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 11:13 pm: |
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F3 is your 3dB down point.
Just try a 9515 on ~2k-2.5k (CLEAN!) in 4-5cuft at ~38hz. |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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| Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 11:19 pm: |
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i had the 9512 and hated the low end. |
Gold Member Username: Southernrebel
Monroe,
Louisiana
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| Posted on Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 11:32 pm: |
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Chad, that 9512 won't have the lowend of an RL-S. lol
But in the right box, they can have dam nice lows. Depending on the power you plan to run, you may want to just go w/ a 3500. The 3500 will like 1500wrms better. |
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Gold Member Username: 04redmach1
Lagrange,
GA
USA
Post Number: 1712
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:04 am: |
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I do agree with Canaan on running 1500 rms to a 3500 series sub, but personally I wouldn't run much more than rated on either of them if you want to get them low. There are alot better subs for the lows if that is what you are wanting.
Kevin |
Silver Member Username: Kingandsons07
Lincoln,
Nebraska
U.S.A
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Registered: Feb-07
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 04:26 am: |
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1500rms to a 15" RD Alpha  u will be happy with one. it takes 1800 easy and still wants more  |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 12:30 pm: |
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"Chad, that 9512 won't have the lowend of an RL-S.lol "
come to think of it, at the time i was switching back and forth from the rl-s and the 9512. so yeah the sq was really different. it wasn't fair of me to judge the low end of the 9512. |
Gold Member Username: Zacdavis
Beloit,
Wi
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Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 01:41 pm: |
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Kevin is right Snarl.
1500 rms is PLENTY of power for a 9515.
As for 35 and 95 with equal power...the 95 is actually louder than the 35.
The 95 does have a stiffer suspension but the MS is so much higher than the 35 it more than makes up for it.
We've done countless testing on all DD woofers.
In all honesty a 9515 will be happy with a true 1000wrms for daily. |
Gold Member Username: Drivingreckless
DD 9515f,
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 03:17 pm: |
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'In all honesty a 9515 will be happy with a true 1000wrms for daily"
its even happier with 2500 watts |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
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Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 08:01 pm: |
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And even better with 3000w But thats the most I would put on it.
I had mine on 1000w and then went to 3000w. The difference was drastic. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3r
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Post Number: 7626
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 08:14 pm: |
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You guys are talking about with music though. Try running those subs on 3000 watts RMS on a 45hz test tone or so and see what happens  |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
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Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 08:19 pm: |
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Done it...... it's all good if you do it for 2-3 sec. More than that and you'll start smelling coil......... |
Silver Member Username: Shade
Moxee,
Wa
U.S.
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Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 09:18 pm: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuNzQBWlzqo
bxi2006d so roughly 1600rms...it got decently loud.
dd9515 is in 4.5cu ft @ 38hz |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3r
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Post Number: 7628
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 09:30 pm: |
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M.S., pay attention to how Zac mentioned DAILY. I should have been extremely specific and said try running playing a 45hz tone with 3,000 watts RMS DAILY so that you understood me more clearly. |
Gold Member Username: Snarl2004
Digital Design 9515,
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 09:38 pm: |
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"try running playing a 45hz tone with 3,000 watts RMS DAILY"
why would you just go bumpin around playing a 45zh tone  |
Gold Member Username: •cam•
BC
Canada
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 09:55 pm: |
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I've done that with a lower frequency tone. It was pretty cool. |
Platinum Member Username: Wingmanalive
A pic is worth
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:06 pm: |
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^^^^^^Lolololololo
Psycho with a lollipop in his mouth lol. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3r
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Post Number: 7631
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:06 pm: |
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Well, when describing RMS(Root-Mean-Square) it can be misleading. that's why I posted what I did Snarl. Sure the 9515 can take 3-4k or more for burps but that's not true daily RMS power handling. |
Gold Member Username: Snarl2004
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:20 pm: |
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lol i know im just giving you a hard time rob |
Gold Member Username: •cam•
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Canada
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:22 pm: |
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Maybe I'll join you, man. What is this RMS power I'm reading about? ;)
Seriously though, I think we should try and phase that out. There's enough in the way of misconceptions in this hobby. |
Gold Member Username: Philly306
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North carolina
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:27 pm: |
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cam im glad you know that it doesn't truly exist. thats good.
but for a teaching tool the phrase "rms" is great especially for people who don't care to learn anymore than that concept. Alot of people don't want to take the time to learn about that kind of thing. |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:41 pm: |
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MHO of DD 9500 subs (& some ppl will disagree)
good if u want LOUD (especially when u want ppl outside ur ride to hear u bumping) with a tad of SQ to it - wouldnt tune lower than 38hz since IMO it fails to do that well ...to some ppl thats "lows" ....not to me since what i consider to be lows is from 34hz & down
so buy the correct sub for ur real needs ... |
Gold Member Username: •cam•
BC
Canada
Post Number: 2368
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 11:49 pm: |
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Most people don't even learn the true concept of it though. Continuous or average power is just as useful for teaching although some might complain about having to type a few extra letters. |
Gold Member Username: Big_edge_head
Milwaukee,
Wisconsin
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 12:06 am: |
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http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/misc/rmspower.htm
This is a good read I found a couple weeks ago...idk if people have seen this before or not but there it is. |
Gold Member Username: •cam•
BC
Canada
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 12:19 am: |
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Good post. That's where I first really read about it. |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
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Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 03:10 pm: |
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Yawn. We've had this debate before. I run 3000w all day to my 9515 and it's great on any music even the most bass heavy rap. There are only a few "bass tracks" where I'm not able to run that much power to it safely.
And I run the same power to it in comps. I could probably put even more on it for a few second burps, but I don't want to push it. The guys on the DD forum use 5kw+ for burps on theirs. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3r
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Post Number: 7665
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 03:17 pm: |
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Ugh lol. M.S. you don't get the point. Run your sub on an average of 3000 watts and see what happens. Just run it on a sine wave with 3000 watts all day. There's a huge difference as we all know. Hell, try running your sub playing some mean Bass Mekanik tracks on 3,000 watts all day and your sub will probably get stinky. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3r
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 03:18 pm: |
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Oh and I didn't know you competed, what do you compete in M.S.? DB Drag?Meca? Usaci? SLAP? Pocket Pool? |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
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Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 03:28 pm: |
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As I said some of the bass mekanik tracks are too much for that amount of power. But for music it's just right.
I just do local comps for fun not serious competition. Most of them are DB Drag. When I change to my SQ system I will still go just to see everyones system even though I know I won't win my class. |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 03:46 pm: |
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"When I change to my SQ system I will still go just to see everyones system even though I know I won't win my class."
inquiring minds want to know |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 7147
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 06:19 pm: |
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Haha you know about it Chad I told you before. I'm changing to an SQ system with two 12" subs. Going to keep my American Bass 3000w amp. I will probably get SoundSplinter RL-Ps unless I come across something better for 1500w each.
They have to be 12"s b/c I don't want the box to take up any more than half of my Blazer's cargo area. I could do two 15"s if I used all the space. |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
Los Angeles,
CA
USA
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 06:46 pm: |
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nice. can't wait.
why not a pair of 9112. come on you know you want to. |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
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Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 07:40 pm: |
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Thats a great idea Chad...... and all you have to do is paypal me a few thousand $ to make it happen |
Gold Member Username: Denali_on_22s
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 07:42 pm: |
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when tested during "the great 12 challenge" the rl-p was said to have less than impressive sq. just fyi. |
Gold Member Username: Jnoel
AIM= j69noel,
KY
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2008 - 08:47 pm: |
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i ran a 9918- which will be alot similar set up as the 9515 off of a orion 2500d for daily and it sounded pretty dayum good |
