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Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19432 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 01:54 pm: |
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ok this is the type of sound i am looking for. i need a set that works well off axis. the tweeters can be bright or smooth as long as it has fine details. now i am looking for a sound that just covers you. i listen to a lot of rock and jazz. some trance but not too much. i don't care how it sounds on hip hop cause i don't listen to it that much. so in other words, i need mids that just sound heavy and deep with tweeters that scream at you with details. |
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Silver Member Username: Drant19
DUB-C,
TX
Post Number: 487 Registered: Aug-07
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| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 02:39 pm: |
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http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=4985 friend of mine has those on a alpine F354. gives them 75rms and they have got some of the best midbass ive heard from a 6.5" comp set. overall they are pretty impressive |
   
Gold Member Username: Adddisorder
Palm Beach,
Florida
Post Number: 6055 Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 03:41 pm: |
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interested in building a DIY set active? if not i would check out rainbow germaniums |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19436 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 04:23 pm: |
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something to look at i guess mat. but why would i want to do an active setup for the dynaudio? are the imaging that off with their provided xovers? it does have +/- db for tweets so it should solve it. one thing is for sure though. i should of never sold my focal utopias. i am an idiot. |
   
Gold Member Username: Adddisorder
Palm Beach,
Florida
Post Number: 6057 Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 05:28 pm: |
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no i mean build a set. that way you can pick the best mid and tweet for your application. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19440 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 05:50 pm: |
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oh i c. i was thinking of doing that. but thats a lot of time and money trying out stuff. i am almost set on dynaudio 240 unless someone tells me that they are no good. lol. man i wish i was just concerned with being loud again. at least back then i didn't pay too much attention to the highs. lol. |
   
Silver Member Username: Drant19
DUB-C,
TX
Post Number: 489 Registered: Aug-07
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| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 06:10 pm: |
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u had focal utopias???? AND SOLD THEM?!?!?! |
   
Silver Member Username: Exige
Cincinnati
Post Number: 187 Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 09:20 pm: |
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i dont trust magazine reviews worth a damn....they're all paid for. but when a magazine gives a bad review, that's saying something. IIRC, CA&E gave Dyn 240's a pretty bad review about a year and half ago. at the same time, i gotta think that Dyn tweeters might not be the sound you're aiming for. Focal would probably be a good direction to go with since you don't mind the brightness. You had em, you liked em. Maybe Boston SPZ's? Tends to be on the brighter side...midbass has improved over the old Z6's. What's your budget? |
   
Silver Member Username: Mrsq
California
Post Number: 215 Registered: May-06
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| Posted on Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 03:14 am: |
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why did you sell the focal utopia? |
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Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19446 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 09:57 am: |
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i was getting tired of it i guess and was looking for something new. lol. anyways i am thinking around 600 bux or less for a nice set. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19447 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 09:59 am: |
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btw what do you guys think about the jl audio zr650? also exige audio, glad you mentioned about the dynaudio tweets. the sales rep told me that the tweeter may not be for me also. also what does it mean when they say "long throw motor"? |
   
Gold Member Username: Adddisorder
Palm Beach,
Florida
Post Number: 6062 Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:21 am: |
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hey chad a good place to check out for speakers is diymobileaudio.com |
   
Silver Member Username: Exige
Cincinnati
Post Number: 190 Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:37 am: |
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JL's not a bad set by any means, but I do wonder if the tweeters might also be a bit neutral for you. Depends who you ask, but I find the midbass on the ZR's a bit weak in comparison to other sets for the money. I'd concentrate your attention on some of the brighter companies..BA, Quart, and Focal. BA and Focal primarily. Quart I personally don't like at all. Do you have a chance to demo? Focal K2P's vs. BA SPZ6's might be a nice comparison for your tastes. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19448 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:55 am: |
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damn dude. thats what the sales person at the shop that sells jl audio also. lol. you know your speakers man. its not that i am looking for bright sound but something that sounds very deep and balanced. i don't want the tweeter over powering the mid. the ba you recomended seems good. this is going to be a tough choice. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19449 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:58 am: |
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mat thanks for the link. that site has lots of useful info. i am almost 90% on getting the boston accoustics. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19450 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 12:18 pm: |
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guys i found what i am looking for. http://www.mobilesq.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=27_50_51_58&products_id=121 |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19451 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 12:25 pm: |
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one more thing exige audio. what do you think about me running a pair of cdt m6 for the rearfill. i would just run those full range with only around 55wrms each. i'll put them in the stock 6 x 9 location. |
   
Gold Member Username: Adddisorder
Palm Beach,
Florida
Post Number: 6063 Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 06:17 pm: |
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the dls look real nice. i wouldnt buy from them though. MO said a while back they sent him some treo stuff that was damaged or something like that. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19453 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 06:26 pm: |
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oh no mat. the shop that me and berny hang out at is also a dls dealer. ima get it cheaper than that site. i already told them to order it for me. |
   
Gold Member Username: Adddisorder
Palm Beach,
Florida
Post Number: 6066 Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 07:07 pm: |
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good deal |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19456 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 07:39 pm: |
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i was reading up on some comparisons on this forum. very nice info here. btw they are talking about the irridiums. i was gonna go with the irridiums at first but the dls rep said i am better off with the ultimate UR6S. the irridiums lacks mid range a bit. unless i go with the irridium 3 ways, i am better off with the one i am getting. http://www.titantalk.com/forums/titan-visual-audio-discussion/32261-dls-iridium- 6-2-vs-focal-165k2p.html |
   
Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamic
San Diego, California
Post Number: 3588 Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 08:00 pm: |
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Come on Chad you gotta step it up. Go with some high-end stuff like this: SCAN-SPEAK REVELATOR 18W/4531G00 - 4ohms 7" 40-5k
SCAN-SPEAK D2904/6000-01 - 4 ohms 1.1" high output neo textile dome - 1000-20k  |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19457 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 08:04 pm: |
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lol yeah right man. lol. those look awesome though. i should be happy with the dls. if not, then my quest continues. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19458 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 08:06 pm: |
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besides the dls i am getting looks very promising. i just downloaded the manual so i can get an idea. it really fits what i am looking for. hope it sounds good. i got my fingers crossed. lol.
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Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamic
San Diego, California
Post Number: 3589 Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 08:12 pm: |
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Oh I didnt read your last post saying you were going with DLS. You know how I feel about that company. Good call. About Scan-Speak: from Denmark, they make some of the best drivers in the world and 8 ohm versions very similar to the ones above are used in home audio speaker systems costing hundreds of thousands a pair. That system on some extreme quality homemade crossovers would sound incredible. One drawback is that the woofer needs more room than most car drivers so it would be best suited in a medium sized kick. The low/mid punch and smooth response of the Revelator 7 is simply amazing. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19459 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 08:14 pm: |
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thanks brad. i will keep that in mind for the future. these european guys know their speakers. scan-speak from denmark and dls from sweden. european speakers ftw. lol. |
   
Gold Member Username: The_image_dynamic
San Diego, California
Post Number: 3590 Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 08:29 pm: |
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No question about it. And in the pro sound low frequency and subwoofer market, the Italians have completely taken over the lead in the ultra high quality market with Eighteen Sound, RCF, B&C and Ciare all giving JBL, McCauley, and EV (the top USA companies) a run for their money and in many cases topping them. I have been testing and using their drivers for years and right now I am working on an extreme-output cabinets project for a couple home theaters. Going to use Eighteen Sound 15's and B&C 2" VC compression drivers on waveguide horns. 137dB full range  |
   
Gold Member Username: Adddisorder
Palm Beach,
Florida
Post Number: 6067 Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 09:00 pm: |
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good call brad those are in my top choices for my next set up along with seas, and rainbow. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19460 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 09:01 pm: |
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damn that is going to be nice. you have alot of fun with sounds don't you. lol. brad i might try out one of the scan-speak mid bass driver and put that on my rear dash. i think those might work well in a ib setup. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19461 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 09:06 pm: |
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this one. http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=148&products_ id=1578 i can customize my rear deck with some fiberglass to hose these. the rms is good with the 4 channel amp i am getting. i will be using a rd55.4. the dls will shine with even 55 clean wrms so i can use the other 55rms for the mid bass in the back. or i can just bridge the 4 channels in to 2 and give the dls 150 wrms. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19462 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 09:17 pm: |
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btw guys, i didn't know scan-speak makes alot of drivers for various companies. look at the botton of this thread. the guy says scan-speak makes alpine speakers. also you will see jonathan barely started out on this forum at the time. lol. incase you see this jonathan, wassup man. http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/4/1153.html |
   
Gold Member Username: Adddisorder
Palm Beach,
Florida
Post Number: 6068 Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:39 pm: |
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i would hold off on putting any rear in untill you get the dls tuned in. i would look into these if you decide to go with rears tohttp://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=143&products_ id=1604 iv heard real good things about them. |
   
Silver Member Username: Exige
Cincinnati
Post Number: 191 Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 12:53 am: |
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Chad, regarding the M6's....55w won't do them justice. That's the main issue with it. You'd need to throw them at least 125w. 150w is my normal recommendation. They'll get pounding on that. You gonna be able to listen to the DLS's beforehand? |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19468 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 10:07 am: |
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exige audio...unfortunately no. i wish i could. i am just gonna have to take my chances. |
   
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3r
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Post Number: 7416 Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 10:14 am: |
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Damnit Chad! Can't you just leave things alone? Haha, money always burns in your pocket. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
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Post Number: 19469 Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 10:18 am: |
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lol. i am hoping this is it. at least for a year. i need to start thinking about getting a new car next january. still keeping my accord though. |
   
Bronze Member Username: Croozer
Rockford,
IL
United States
Post Number: 58 Registered: Feb-06
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| Posted on Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 11:49 am: |
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Dynaudio 242 GT |