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Bronze Member Username: 2000celica
Roanoke,
VA
U.s.
Post Number: 45
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 08:19 pm: |
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i'm 90% positive i want to get the ED Nine.1 for my Fi Q 12. i just like how it does 1200 RMS at 12.5 volts. no electrical system is going to be able to maintain 14.4 volts all the time. 12.5 is more realistic. a lot of people are telling me AudioQue 1200D. that amp looks very nice as well and i'm stuck between it and the Nine.1. Does the AQ come with a remote bass knob like the Nine.1 does? and is there anything bad about the Nine.1 i should consider before purchasing it? |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 6033
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 08:27 pm: |
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The AQ amps is underrated a little, 1200w is a conservative rating. I'd get the AQ b/c they have a rep for good products and service. Ed, well, ask the guys on SSA about that one. |
Bronze Member Username: 2000celica
Roanoke,
VA
U.s.
Post Number: 48
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 09:16 pm: |
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i just looked over the specs of the ED and then on the AQ and the AQ is better rated. the Nine.1 isnt as efficient and only has a 12 dB where the AQ has 24 dB. what does the amount of dB on the amp do as far as sound goes? i've never undrstood what that was about. i've seen some with 18 dB also. |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 6036
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 10:47 pm: |
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You must mean the crossover slope? Don't need to be concerned with that.
http://www.bcae1.com/xovrslop.htm
But you're right the AQ is more efficient. The nine.1 efficiency is below average. |
Platinum Member Username: Chaunb3400
Huntsville,
Alabama
U.S.
Post Number: 13720
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 01:23 am: |
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I think the ed guys said it was a typo on there site about the effciency of the nine.1...Contact them on the matter |
Bronze Member Username: 2000celica
Roanoke,
VA
U.s.
Post Number: 50
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 07:55 am: |
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does the cross over slope create any type of different bass, be it maybe tighter, lower, etc? i wouldn't notice a difference from 12 dB or 24 dB? |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3r
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Post Number: 6773
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 12:48 pm: |
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"does the cross over slope create any type of different bass, be it maybe tighter, lower, etc? i wouldn't notice a difference from 12 dB or 24 dB?"
That's how fast the slope works basically. It will cut off the frequencies from the point you set it with a -24db slope versus a -12DB slope. Think of it like a slide that drops straight down fast versus a very long slide that gradually or progressively reaches the ground. |
Bronze Member Username: 2000celica
Roanoke,
VA
U.s.
Post Number: 58
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 02:45 pm: |
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if i'm primarily listening to rock type music and the ocassional rap song, which octave slope would be best for me? 12, 18 or 24dB? |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 6045
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 03:17 pm: |
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Dude, it's not going to matter. Crossover slope is no reason to choose one amp over another. |
Gold Member Username: •cam•
BC
Canada
Post Number: 1886
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 07:24 pm: |
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Your HU might have a crossover, too.
I have a NINe.4 and it's a great amp. All of my experience with eD has been great. |
Gold Member Username: 420alldaylong
Post Number: 3240
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 07:50 pm: |
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USAmps MD-2D |
Bronze Member Username: 2000celica
Roanoke,
VA
U.s.
Post Number: 61
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 09:07 pm: |
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alright what does everyone think about US Amps?? I like them. i'm not going to go with the 2D as sugessted though, i think the 1D is plenty, 1200 RMS at one ohm. its 74% efficient at one ohm, thats pretty good. 24 dB octave. nice looking amp, AND a local dealer very close to me sells US Amps so i can pick one up locally. so does everyone like these amps? are they a good choice? good for an Fi Q. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3r
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Post Number: 6791
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 10:00 am: |
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That'd be fine for a Fi Q. |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 6052
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 10:47 am: |
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US Amps are great, prob. the best mentioned in this thread |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3r
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Post Number: 6792
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 12:40 pm: |
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Depends on which US Amps we're talking about though M.S. since they're going to the other side of cheap sh1t with high numbers versus quality. They claim they'll still have their good/great line but I don't like the way it's going but these companies can't sell all high end and expect to make tons of money. |
Bronze Member Username: 2000celica
Roanoke,
VA
U.s.
Post Number: 62
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 07:53 pm: |
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the local dealer who had the MD.1D wanted $520 for it, on sale. that's entirely too much for an amp... i think i'm just going to go with the AQ 1200D. seems to be my best bet. does anyone know where i could find an US amps md.1d at for a decent price? are those amps usually higher priced? i know very little about them but from the specs they seem to be great amps. |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 6077
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 08:23 pm: |
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They are expensive. The XT series are their low line that Rob's talking about.
The AQ is a good amp at a very good price |
Gold Member Username: Bnd_rulez
Phoenix,
AZ
USA
Post Number: 1420
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 11:32 pm: |
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They are selling on eBay pretty cheap. Check out sell iSoldit for the US Amps. I just got an ax-5600 shipped for $321. Fast shipping too, came in original box and was still packaged in plastic in the box. |
Gold Member Username: 420alldaylong
Post Number: 3242
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 12:33 am: |
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USAmps MD-2D $319 Shipped |
Bronze Member Username: 2000celica
Roanoke,
VA
U.s.
Post Number: 67
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 12:35 am: |
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i found an US Amps MD.1D on ebay going for $510 shipped. pretty much same price as in town dealer's price. are these amps REALLY that good, good enough to spend the extra cash for them? or is the difference not really that great to shell out an extra $200+ on? |
Bronze Member Username: 2000celica
Roanoke,
VA
U.s.
Post Number: 68
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 12:36 am: |
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who has a MD.2D for $319 shipped?? |
Gold Member Username: 420alldaylong
Post Number: 3244
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 12:58 am: |
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http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/4/427677.html |
Bronze Member Username: 2000celica
Roanoke,
VA
U.s.
Post Number: 71
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 08:15 am: |
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alright Joey, after reading that huge line of posts, i kind of got the idea. i send wooferetc an email asking if they will price match the same amp from the ikesound website? or is there another way of doing it? i would love to get a md.1d at a great price. |
Gold Member Username: 420alldaylong
Post Number: 3254
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 01:01 am: |
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Email seems to work better for some reason.
MD-1D would be a good match for a Fi Q 12" |
Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass
Post Number: 7895
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 12:59 pm: |
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Id get the US amps and I think a 24 db crossover is a big deal over a 12 db for sure from my experience |
Bronze Member Username: 2000celica
Roanoke,
VA
U.s.
Post Number: 82
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 08:54 pm: |
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yeah i'm pretty set on getting an US Amps amp now. i'm getting the BP option on my Fi Q. i'm not getting so much for the extra power handling options it gives me, but since it does increase power handling, should i stick with the 1200 rms from a MD.1D or get the MD.2D and rock 1500 rms to it?? i mean i want it to sound good and be loud, while still maintaing SQ, but i don't want to take the chance of over powering it and damaging the sub. what should i do?? |
Silver Member Username: Sqcheap
Grand rapids,
Michigan
Usa
Post Number: 135
Registered: Jul-07
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| Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 10:24 pm: |
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I think 1200wrms is way beyond any SQ use. Bigger amp never hurts, you might want to change subs later or whatever and want a little more power. If you are worried about the power then don't run it WOT. If you can get the extra for little cost then I say go for it and you have less chance of clipping provided you set it up right. Of course 1200-1500 is not that big a difference either.
The steeper slope might help more with a tight sub that peaks just above your crossover point. If you cross at say 80 and your box peaks at 100 it can still play 100 some...the steeper slope will cut that out better. Otherwise it does not matter much. Steeper slopes tend to not blend as well with the rest of system, but for subs in a car I doubt it matters much unless you have a full on SQ system. |
Bronze Member Username: 2000celica
Roanoke,
VA
U.s.
Post Number: 85
Registered: Jan-08
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| Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 10:57 pm: |
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i'm not sure what you're meaning by steeper slopes. the dB octave of the amp? what should it be set to? the box im making will be tuned to either 28 or 30 Hz. how will i know what my box peaks at? |
Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass
Post Number: 7930
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 11:00 pm: |
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"but for subs in a car I doubt it matters much unless you have a full on SQ system."
Thats the reason I like a 24 db crossover better filtering quality but like I said from my experience it's worth it ...plus it says something to me about the quality of the product and attention to detail the company probably spent designing the product but to each his own |
Silver Member Username: Sqcheap
Grand rapids,
Michigan
Usa
Post Number: 136
Registered: Jul-07
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| Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 11:06 pm: |
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Higher number just means the crossover cuts faster. Anything just above the crossover point will be cut more and faster than would be with a lower slope. They will blend less into your mids. It will not affect what you box is tuned to, that will be well below your crossover setting. I was just saying if you have a sub setup that makes a lot of midbass it can help you, otherwise it is a matter of what you like for the most part. |
Silver Member Username: Phuktupbasshead
Mesa,
Arizona
United State...
Post Number: 712
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 04:38 am: |
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so is anybody going to tell us whether or not the audioque comes with a bass knob? (like he originally asked) they mention some kind of dash mounted knob... but they don't say what it IS.
who here owns an audioque amp? |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 6234
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 05:24 pm: |
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It says right on the website it comes with it |
