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Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY
Post Number: 16302
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 01:54 pm: |
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yesterday i got done doing my passenger side door. i only had one sheet so i could only do one door for now. the shop ran out.
deadener........stinger roadkill
i took the door panel off and the plastic cover the factory used to cover up the holes.
then i cut the roadkill stuff to cover all the holes.
let me tell you guys, it makes a BIGGGGGG difference. the mid bass response from my component set is just insane now.
i would recomend this to anyone that is even thinking about it. unless your door is sealed up good already. |
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Gold Member Username: Mike11202
DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : ,
Sewell, NJ
US
Post Number: 1164
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 01:57 pm: |
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i just did mine a couple days ago 
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/i-c-e-electrical-security-navigation/70539-diy-so und-deadening-most-important-part-system.html |
Gold Member Username: Jakeyplaysbass
ASU
Post Number: 2227
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 01:58 pm: |
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Chad your just now deadening your doors? I would have thought you did that years ago. |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY
Post Number: 16304
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 01:59 pm: |
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mike that is awesome.
but let me ask you something. what benefit you get with the carboard? i was thinking of doing that but decided to just the deadener over the holes without the cardboard. |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY
Post Number: 16305
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:01 pm: |
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oh jake. i am lazy. lol.
well not just that. the focals and the mmats i have sound good the way they were so i didn't feel the need. but after deadening the doors, i was like what an idiot i am for not doing this long time ago. hahaha. |
Gold Member Username: Mike11202
DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : ,
Sewell, NJ
US
Post Number: 1165
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:02 pm: |
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Chad people usually use MDF or Fiberglass to fill the holes to seperate the REAR and FRONT waves from mixing.
Cardboard works just as good, once you slap some deadener on the front side its nice and thick.
And I'll get back to you on the RL-S in a couple days, I don't have the money yet. |
Gold Member Username: Jakeyplaysbass
ASU
Post Number: 2229
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:05 pm: |
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If mike backs out on the RL-s 12s count me in. |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY
Post Number: 16307
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:09 pm: |
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i have 2 jake. mike only wants one. 
mike.....i just slap the deadner over the big holes. the door is air tight though. you think the cardboard will make a bigger difference? |
Gold Member Username: Mike11202
DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : ,
Sewell, NJ
US
Post Number: 1166
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:14 pm: |
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Yep, I tested mine each time I did something new. The cardboard definately made a difference. I don't believe deadener can completly filter out the waves, thats what the cardboard is for. |
Gold Member Username: Jakeyplaysbass
ASU
Post Number: 2230
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:15 pm: |
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I see I see. How much?
anthony.j.papa@asu.edu - email |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY
Post Number: 16308
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:18 pm: |
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god damn it. lol.
so should i take the deadener off then put the cardboard then put the deadener back?
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should i leave the deaderner there and put a sheet of cardboard and put another sheet on top of it? |
Gold Member Username: Mike11202
DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : ,
Sewell, NJ
US
Post Number: 1167
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:21 pm: |
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"should i leave the deaderner there and put a sheet of cardboard and put another sheet on top of it?"
Yeah if you see in my pictures I already had deadener over the holes, then after that I put the cardboard cut-out of the hole witch deadener over top of it. |
Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass
Post Number: 7417
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:22 pm: |
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this is a good post for me I got some components im still deciding what to do with and how....I figured the cardboard would make a difference having messed with subs in cardboard boxes lol.....im thinking of putting my 5.25 mids in 6 inch pvc sealed up and mounting the tweets above them |
Bronze Member Username: Rellikfl
New Port Richey,
FL
USA
Post Number: 45
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:24 pm: |
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hey mike. How much did it cost to do all that? |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY
Post Number: 16310
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:25 pm: |
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cool mike. thanks. you're the best.
anyways send me the money so i can ship out the sub. hahahaha.
i don't know if you are ready for the sq of the rl-s. lol. it will blow you away on how the low and the higher frequencies plays so flat. |
Gold Member Username: Mike11202
DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : ,
Sewell, NJ
US
Post Number: 1168
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:26 pm: |
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> RAAMmat BXT™ roll 118.96 1 118.96
> Ensolite™ MLC yards 11.96 3 35.88
> V&S Spray Adhesive can 7.66 1 7.66
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> Sub Total $162.50
> Shipping: UPS Ground $27.40
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Total $189.90 |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY
Post Number: 16311
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:29 pm: |
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sean you gonna need more air space than what that pvc pipe can give you. |
Bronze Member Username: Rellikfl
New Port Richey,
FL
USA
Post Number: 46
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:32 pm: |
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Would it make a big difference if I just did it in my trunk and rear deck? |
Gold Member Username: Mike11202
DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : ,
Sewell, NJ
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Post Number: 1169
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:32 pm: |
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No problem chad anytime
And yeah sean those components are designed to do well in the airspace of a door, don't suffocate them |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY
Post Number: 16312
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:33 pm: |
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forgot to mention. my car has a styrofoam block between the door panel and the door. it was making sound so i took that out. |
Gold Member Username: Mike11202
DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : ,
Sewell, NJ
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Post Number: 1171
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:34 pm: |
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"Would it make a big difference if I just did it in my trunk and rear deck?"
If your trunk has holes like mine did, it makes a HUGE difference. My sub was noticably louder and it completely stopped all the rattles in my trunk. |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY
Post Number: 16313
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:35 pm: |
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chris the whole point of us deadening the door is to make it as airtight as possible. of course to get rid of any vibrations. but we want to seal up the door. that is our main goal. at least for me it was. |
Bronze Member Username: Rellikfl
New Port Richey,
FL
USA
Post Number: 48
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:38 pm: |
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thnx for the info |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 4900
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:45 pm: |
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My component mids are in MDF sealed boxes built to spec for the speakers  |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY
Post Number: 16314
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:48 pm: |
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you are fukkking lucky you can fit a mdf made box in your ride for you speakers. god damn it. i hate you man. lol.
i bet the mids sound clean in there.
i was thinking about doing that but i don't want to cut up my door panels. |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 4903
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:52 pm: |
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Haha Chad...... they don't exactly "fit"
In fact I can't fit anything inside the doors, not even just a speaker cause of where the window track and power window motor are. Stock ones were in the dash.
The boxes are covered in carpet to match the door panel, and mounted on the door. In other words they stick out from the doors. Doesn't look the best, but works GREAT.
I will get pics up of my entire system soon. |
Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass
Post Number: 7422
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:58 pm: |
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"And yeah sean those components are designed to do well in the airspace of a door, don't suffocate them"
hmm well if thats the case maybe ill mount them on the floor then somehow...how much air space (each) do you think they will need |
Bronze Member Username: Rellikfl
New Port Richey,
FL
USA
Post Number: 50
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:58 pm: |
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hey mike, do you have any "RAAMmat BXT" left?
email - chrisreed19@gmail.com |
Silver Member Username: Vtouch06
Q-TowN,
PA
Post Number: 244
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:01 pm: |
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^^lol.... |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY
Post Number: 16318
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:03 pm: |
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not sure on exactly how much air space a speaker needs cause some companies don't put the recomended size. but when the speakers are designed, i am sure they have the space of a door in mind. i know all car doors are different size but you know what i mean. |
Bronze Member Username: Rellikfl
New Port Richey,
FL
USA
Post Number: 51
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:03 pm: |
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?, I don't want a whole role, just enough to do trunk and rear deck possibly. |
Silver Member Username: Vtouch06
Q-TowN,
PA
Post Number: 245
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:07 pm: |
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well you can always go on ebay...they got Edead from elemental designs, dynamat xtreme and other stuf too....etc... |
Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass
Post Number: 7424
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:18 pm: |
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"not sure on exactly how much air space a speaker needs cause some companies don't put the recomended size. but when the speakers are designed, i am sure they have the space of a door in mind. i know all car doors are different size but you know what i mean"
well from a guess on my part .25-.30 should be good per 5.25 speaker |
Gold Member Username: Mike11202
DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : ,
Sewell, NJ
US
Post Number: 1172
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:18 pm: |
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eDead is horrible
I'd recomend RAAMmat, Dynomat Extreme, Secondskin
and Chris my friend already bought the leftover i had |
Bronze Member Username: Rellikfl
New Port Richey,
FL
USA
Post Number: 52
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:24 pm: |
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thanks anyways mike. |
Platinum Member Username: Bestmankind
IM THE REAL SLIM SHADY
Post Number: 16323
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:27 pm: |
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stinger road kill works good as well. |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
Us
Post Number: 1057
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:33 pm: |
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how much does it cost to dynamat a door, thought about doing mine when i get it all together |
Silver Member Username: Vtouch06
Q-TowN,
PA
Post Number: 246
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:34 pm: |
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^it depends how much you get and want to do...they got good prices on ebay.... |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
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Post Number: 1058
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:36 pm: |
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how many layers would ya wanna put in a door just one? |
Gold Member Username: Mike11202
DD9515G VFL 200.1 = : ,
Sewell, NJ
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Post Number: 1173
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:46 pm: |
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2 layers on the door, 1 on the inside |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
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Post Number: 1061
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:48 pm: |
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oh |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 4907
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 04:11 pm: |
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My CDT HD 5 1/4" mids require 0.05 cu.ft. for a flat response.
Yes you read that right. |
Gold Member Username: Insearchofbass
Post Number: 7431
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 04:36 pm: |
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"My CDT HD 5 1/4" mids require 0.05 cu.ft. for a flat response.
Yes you read that right."
well then im trying the 6 inch pvc idea then
6x6x3.25=.0677 cf
thanks m.s. |
Platinum Member Username: Rovin
4 10 Pioneer...
Post Number: 12643
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| Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 03:45 pm: |
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wtf ur selling ur SS subs now ???
i too can feel air being lost in my front doors & can also feel the wasted energy on the doors exterior but like chad ima lazy @ss & 1 day hope to do it
???? here - u know that undercoating which can be applied with a spraygun\compressor ..well im wondering if i can buy that & spray inside the door skin since its difficult to get at it & would be faster to do but im still going to dynamat over the door panel..... |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 4941
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| Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 05:37 pm: |
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Sean:
Make sure you check what airspace your speakers specify before doing that. 6" mids take more space, for example with the CDT HD, the 6" take 0.3 cu.ft. Quite a bit more than the 5" |
