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New member Username: Hqh17
Post Number: 1
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 05:39 pm: |
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i have 2 Pyramid 12s that can each handle 600 watts RMS and i need an amp to power them but i have a very tight budget. what is something good that i can afford? |
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Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 4812
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 06:08 pm: |
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Hifonics Bxi1206d
Overrated, does about 900-1000 watts. Good enough for those subs though, and you won't find a decent amp at that power for less. |
New member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 2
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 07:47 pm: |
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how about the Boss GT-2500D? it claims 1500 watts RMS into 2 ohms. i figure for around $140 its a pretty good deal if it does close to what it says |
New member Username: Hqh17
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Post Number: 3
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 07:47 pm: |
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how about the Boss GT-2500D? it claims 1500 watts RMS into 2 ohms |
New member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 4
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 07:48 pm: |
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my bad... |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 4821
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 08:31 pm: |
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Boss = crap. Does nowhere near the claimed power.
You might want to take a look at this before asking any more brand quesiotns:
http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/329117.html |
Silver Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
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Post Number: 989
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2007 - 08:46 pm: |
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get the hifonics it will be plenty loud,id trash the subs and put 2 12inch kicker cvrs on it tho |
Gold Member Username: Juliob
Santo Domingo
Dominican Re...
Post Number: 5080
Registered: Dec-05
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| Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 02:05 am: |
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x2
I'd sell those subs and start over. You should try something cheap and awesome like RD audio lower models or DD and you'll be more than pleased |
Silver Member Username: Bnd_rulez
Phoenix,
AZ
USA
Post Number: 932
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 10:56 am: |
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Yeah, those swap mart brands sure cr@p. |
Silver Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
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Post Number: 993
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 01:34 pm: |
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i say cvr cuz he sounds ike he has a small budget it and there lik 75 a piece on
www.onlinecarstereo.com |
Silver Member Username: Somedonniedude
Illinois
United States
Post Number: 594
Registered: May-07
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| Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 08:47 pm: |
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I agree with chris, 2 cvr's on a hifonics BXi1206 would be a huge upgrade from those pyramids (and a descent overall system imo). |
Bronze Member Username: Tpa954
Hollywood,
Florida
U.S.A
Post Number: 71
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 09:56 pm: |
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Go with a Kicker ZX-750.1 Off Ebay , there not that expensive around 175 off ebay Refurbished may be a little less . There also underrated so it will probably be pushing around 1000 . |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
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Post Number: 1037
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 09:58 pm: |
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hifonics would get a lil bit louder,the 750.1s usally only get 800-900 watts |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 4855
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 10:40 pm: |
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Yeah and the hifoncs will only do 900-1000. You will not notice a bifference between those, and the Kicker is 1000x better quality.
Definetly the Kicker if you can get it cheaper. |
New member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 5
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 12:28 am: |
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ok. im gonna have to stick with my pyramids. and ive found 2 amps that might be possibilities:
1. Cadence TXA-6004 for $180
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=6099
2. MA Audio HK898 for $130 (refurbished)
http://cgi.ebay.com/MA-AUDIO-HK898-1200w-2-CHANNEL-CAR-AMPLIFIER-AMP-HK-898_W0QQ itemZ270191587761QQcmdZViewItem
any advice? |
New member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 6
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 12:35 am: |
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i know this stuff is crap but its all i can afford :/
im just trying to find the best of the crap |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 4874
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 01:49 am: |
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Both of those amps are likely to be overrated. But the Cadence is without a doubt the better of the two. |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 4875
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 01:55 am: |
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Wait, if you can spend $180
If you need the power at 1 ohm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-Hifonics-BXi-1206D-1200W-Brutus-Mono-Amp-BXi1 206D_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38638QQihZ017QQitemZ270197785879QQrdZ1QQsspagena meZWDVW
If you need power at 2 ohms
http://cgi.ebay.com/KICKER-ZX750-1-CAR-AUDIO-750W-CLASS-D-AMP-AMPLIFIER_W0QQitem Z150198264427QQihZ005QQcategoryZ64570QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
Gold Member Username: Juliob
Santo Domingo
Dominican Re...
Post Number: 5082
Registered: Dec-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 02:56 pm: |
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sell your subs or die lol! |
Silver Member Username: Somedonniedude
Illinois
United States
Post Number: 597
Registered: May-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 03:43 pm: |
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What are your subs voice coil configuration? I'm guessing either dual 2 or single 4 ohm judging by your 2nd post. |
New member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 7
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 07:18 pm: |
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theyre single 4 ohm |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 4916
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 24, 2007 - 10:17 pm: |
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Then the ZX750.1 is your amp  |
Silver Member Username: Drant19
DUB-C,
TX
Post Number: 128
Registered: Aug-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 01:21 am: |
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zx750.1 = perfect for those subs! |
Bronze Member Username: Tpa954
Hollywood,
Florida
U.S.A
Post Number: 75
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 11:21 pm: |
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Bro get rid of those subs to some one around the way that doesn't know anything about Car audio , go to one of your local Pawn shops and buy some decent used subs (Kicker CVR, CVX, Good But Cheap) and i guarantee they will tops the those two pyramids in every way possible. |
Gold Member Username: N2audio
Lawrence,
Ks
USA
Post Number: 1431
Registered: Mar-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 09:26 am: |
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Scott - glad to see you sticking with your budget subs. ALMOST any sub can perform well given the right power and more importantly a good enclosure. Which model pyramids do you have?
That kicker 750.1 would be an excellent amp if you can fit it in your budget.
If not, here's a good quality refurbished lanzar optidrive that will give you 700w at 2 ohms, and 1000w at 1 ohm if you ever change subs.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LANZAR-CLASS-D-MONO-BLOCK-DIGITAL-CAR-AMP-AMPLIFIER_W0QQitemZ230206475025QQihZ013QQcategoryZ64570QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
New member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 8
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 10:27 pm: |
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i have a pair of PWRD12s
any chance i could get a little more power for the money than the kicker? i was sort of looking at the Lanzar HTG264. ive heard mixed reviews about Lanzar. i was thinking the vibe 286 until i read the manual. on Lanzar's website they say it does 2 x 1000 watts rms at 4 ohms but the manual says 2 x 300 watts rms at 4 ohms. i then checked the manual for the Heritage line and the HTG264 matches what they said on the website: 2 x 600 watts rms at 4 ohms
thoughts? |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 5012
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 11:15 pm: |
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Those are not good either...... ya need to stop looking at crap brand amps and get something good, such as a kicker amp |
New member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 9
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 04:32 pm: |
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i read the good bad and ugly list [linked above] and in the amp section MA Audio is under the 'good' list with Alpine and Kicker and Rockford. i know this doesnt necessarily mean much but i found a MA Audio HK1398 for $180 [plus $30 shipping]
http://cgi.ebay.com/MA-AUDIO-HK1398-3200-WATT-2%2F1-CHANNEL-AMP-CAR-AMPLIFIER_W0 QQitemZ320199867261QQcmdZViewItem?IMSfp=TL071225082a11576 |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
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Post Number: 1143
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 04:37 pm: |
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well the list aint perfect,and i know ppl talk about ma audio,but i would like to see some benchtest to prove there overrated. |
Gold Member Username: Juliob
Santo Domingo
Dominican Re...
Post Number: 5091
Registered: Dec-05
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 06:01 pm: |
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Forget ma audio, 17V ratings isn't going to happen. |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
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Post Number: 1144
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 06:07 pm: |
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they give you the rating for 14.4 volts to,they tell u both |
New member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 10
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 08:41 pm: |
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anyone know where i can get a manual for the HK1398? i figure if it says 1600 rms @ 2 ohms then it might do 1200? maybe? |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 5027
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 10:41 pm: |
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MA audio are overrated......... and yea, whoever put them in the good category is an idiot |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
Us
Post Number: 1146
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 10:47 pm: |
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i aint saying there high qualitty,but im also not saying there overrated cuz i aint seen proof |
New member Username: Buccaneersfan80
Post Number: 8
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 11:17 pm: |
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hey does anyone know anything about the Kenwood KAC-7203? im building my first new system and i have two 12' alpine type R 4ohm subs and im jus trying to find an affordable yet quality amplifier
thank you in advance |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
Us
Post Number: 1147
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 11:20 pm: |
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kenwoods are not worth messing with,lowest quality of amp i ever had when i had mine,well my 3,couldnt get one to last longer than 2 days |
New member Username: Buccaneersfan80
Post Number: 10
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 11:36 pm: |
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really? what type of amp would anyone reccomend for two alpine subs |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
Us
Post Number: 1148
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 11:38 pm: |
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how much money u got to spend |
Bronze Member Username: Buccaneersfan80
Post Number: 11
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 11:48 pm: |
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150-200 |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
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Post Number: 1149
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 11:51 pm: |
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dang thats a lil low,maybe somebody on here knows somethang |
Bronze Member Username: Buccaneersfan80
Post Number: 12
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 12:24 am: |
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how much do you think i would need for an amp to power those two subs? |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
Us
Post Number: 1150
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 12:42 am: |
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are they siingle or dual voice coils |
Bronze Member Username: Buccaneersfan80
Post Number: 14
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 12:48 am: |
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dual 4ohm |
Bronze Member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 11
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 12:48 am: |
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thread jacker... |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
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Post Number: 1151
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 12:50 am: |
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http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16367 |
Bronze Member Username: Buccaneersfan80
Post Number: 15
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 01:16 am: |
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if i purchase an amplifier that outputs more watts rms than my woofers can handle is it possible to decrease or increase them |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
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Post Number: 1152
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 01:18 am: |
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them subs can hold more than they are rated,just dont use the bass boost on the amp |
Bronze Member Username: Buccaneersfan80
Post Number: 16
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 01:46 pm: |
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does anyone kno if the Infinity Reference 1600a amp would be able to power 2 12' Alpine type R dual voice coil 4ohm woofers |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
Us
Post Number: 1157
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 04:54 pm: |
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get the hifonics,thats the cheapest you are gonna find a amp for, u need 1000-15000 rms watts @ 1 ohm |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
Us
Post Number: 1210
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 11:55 pm: |
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scott being poor dont make u have to buy cheap junk,i save for my stuff.i dont make much more than the minumum wage |
Bronze Member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 12
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 05:39 pm: |
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about how much power would a class A/B amp with 80 amps of fuses put out? |
Silver Member Username: Phuktupbasshead
Mesa,
Arizona
United State...
Post Number: 700
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 06:08 am: |
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I ESTIMATE about 800 watts... not much more, my friend (if that)
By the way, Hifonics has a pretty high THD level (in comparison to other class D amplifiers)... any suggestions for the poor guy that WON'T lead to the distruction of his subs?? He's got Pyramids, you guys... the LAST thing he needs is to give them unneccessary heat. Come on now... will the pro's please step forward?
I haven't read up on my s,h,i,t for a looooong time - but I do know you can get better than Hifonics. You need durability and efficiency in an amp. TELL ME I'M WRONG. Problem is... I couldn't tell you where to turn, because... well... I'll be the first to admit: I'm behind in the times.
As a matter of fact, check out my thread titled "replacing stolen amps" - I need an update on the best bang for my buck. I'm looking for a mono block that's 1 ohm stable (or better).
Don't worry, buddy, I'm not jacking your thread - I'll pass on any info I obtain. I promise.
Good luck by the way. |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 5400
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 01:54 pm: |
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For $200 I think a hifonics 1206d is the best he will be able to get |
Bronze Member Username: Msand951
Riverside,
Ca
Usa
Post Number: 22
Registered: Mar-07
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| Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 07:54 pm: |
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which kicker 12in should i get with the 750.1 amp for an dual enclosed box. |
Bronze Member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 13
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 05:28 pm: |
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which should i get? i need power at 2 ohms
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?Source=googlebase&Pro ductID=16367
$219 shipped
or
http://cgi.ebay.com/MA-AUDIO-HK1398-3200-WATT-2-1-CHANNEL-AMP-CAR-AMPLIFIER_W0QQ itemZ320204526250QQcmdZViewItem
$210 shipped
or
http://cgi.ebay.com/PHOENIX-GOLD-RYVAL-V8001-1600W-CLASS-D-MONO-AMP-NEW-07_W0QQi temZ250199071281QQcmdZViewItem
$180 shipped |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 5430
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 05:36 pm: |
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I'd say PG, but do NOT buy it from indoaudio, they are known to be a bad seller |
Bronze Member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 14
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 05:55 pm: |
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really? their feedback rating is 98.5% positive |
Bronze Member Username: Hqh17
US
Post Number: 15
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 08:48 pm: |
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i think ill be going with a Cadence TXA-6004
theyre CEA compliant right? |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 6241
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 10:50 pm: |
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Most non-mainstream companies don't use CEA
I don't think Cadence does |
Gold Member Username: Bnd_rulez
Phoenix,
AZ
USA
Post Number: 1517
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Sunday, February 17, 2008 - 11:48 pm: |
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I've never had a problem with indoaudio. |
Gold Member Username: Nd4spd18
Northwest PA
Post Number: 6251
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Monday, February 18, 2008 - 01:22 am: |
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Search this forum and google to say how many horror stories there are about them |
Silver Member Username: Phuktupbasshead
Mesa,
Arizona
United State...
Post Number: 713
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 03:47 am: |
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(for what it's worth... )
I've always heard that indoaudio has a delivery time problem... I think people's package doesn't arrive on time, and they think they got jacked... and MAYBE they did... the point is: indo audio has always had a reputation for not delivering ontime or at all. (my eyes have read many complaints... never dealt with them myself)
hope that helps |
New member Username: Yngve
Ksund,
Møre og Romsdal
Norway
Post Number: 3
Registered: Feb-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 04:59 pm: |
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SoundMagus x1502,unbeatable budget amp, 1500 watt 1ohm,tested and past. |
New member Username: Yngve
Ksund,
Møre og Romsdal
Norway
Post Number: 5
Registered: Feb-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 05:03 pm: |
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SoundMagus x1502, is the best low budget amp, whit true 1500 watt 1ohm load. This is an amp that have taken the budget buyers in Norway with storm.It is the best budget amp,guarantied |
Silver Member Username: Drant19
DUB-C,
TX
Post Number: 345
Registered: Aug-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 05:10 pm: |
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"best budget amp,guarantied"
hard to believe from someone who can't even spell.
sorry but ivenever heard of soundmagus. |
Silver Member Username: Bonhamd
Northern,
Michigan
USA
Post Number: 344
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 05:14 pm: |
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http://www.pojacalo.com/soundmagus_X1502.htm |
New member Username: Yngve
Ksund,
Møre og Romsdal
Norway
Post Number: 8
Registered: Feb-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 06:36 pm: |
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im not so familiar whit your language,sorry. |
Gold Member Username: Bnd_rulez
Phoenix,
AZ
USA
Post Number: 1532
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 10:08 pm: |
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I think you're doing quite well. Much better than I would be able to anyways, I give you much credit. |
Gold Member Username: Cblaze
Rock island,
Tenesssee
Us
Post Number: 1793
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 - 10:09 pm: |
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i do not know how your name is spelled.but amps are rated at 1 % thd here and if u look closely on that page it says 1290 watts @ 1 ohm ..1% thd |
Bronze Member Username: Yngve
Ksund,
Møre og Romsdal
Norway
Post Number: 11
Registered: Feb-08
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 03:59 am: |
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Thanks Govmint,il try my best,hope you understand.
Cblaze,you are probably right, it is stil a very good low-budget amp. It has nice SQ, and much force, and no problem driving the Pyramid subs Scott have.
In Norway it cost 1000,- norwegian kroner.
one dollar=6 Nkroner so it wil fit in his 180Dollar budget,since it wil be cheeper in the US. Norway is a high kost land. |
Gold Member Username: Th3pwn3r
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 09:19 am: |
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"i know this stuff is crap but its all i can afford :/
im just trying to find the best of the crap"
After reading this thread this was by far the best thing in it. That made me laugh Are you willing to buy a used amp? If so you can get something pretty good for $180 just take a look on caraudio.com and you should be able to find something that fits your budget and is of good quality. |
Silver Member Username: Treez
Post Number: 277
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 04:41 pm: |
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x2... Hearing these guys talking about the best and worst crap...  |
