Need help on buying an amp

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Username: Marcooo

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Registered: Mar-07

Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 01:36 am:

Hey im lookin to put a system in my car and have already decided to get an Alpine SWX-1242D but i need help on getting an amp and just about everything else. At first i heard about Lanzar and was drawn to their amps because they were labeld as "competition" amps and i found some pretty good deals on them. But then i heard that Lanzar broke easy so now im not sure on what to get (or whether this is true). I know a little about subs but next to nothing about amps. I just want a decent amp with 1500 plus wattage.

The car id be putting this into is a 2002 Ford Escape or possibly a 00-01 Eclispe so if i put it in the Ford would i need to go with a bandpass box since it's an open trunk? If i get an Eclispe i already know what i need box wise but my friend has a van with two 15 inch JBLs and went with a bandpass.

As for the wiring what would be the best to get? I know someone who knows a lot about wiring and the like but i would probably go with pro instalation since i hear almost all wiring problems come from being user installed.

My budget would be about $1000-$1500 depending on when im buying all this and ive found most of the general types of things i need for around 50% off so moneys not really an issue for what im looking for. I plan on entering competitions when i know more about configurations and have a bigger budget so i want to do this right. Sorry about such the long post and thanks for the help.

Oh and this is probably a really dumb queestion but does the Alpine SWX-1242D come as one or two subs? On Alpine's site they show one sub for two or three of their lines (R and S i think) while they show two subs for their type Es and Xs. Sorry but ive looked everywhere and no one says how many it comes with and ive seen almost all dual 12 inch boxes and all my friends either have two or four 12 inch subs.

Thanks again your helps really appreciated.

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Username: 420alldaylong

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Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 01:56 am:

One sub

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Username: 420alldaylong

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Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 02:01 am:

Mark Fantini

Check this out before you buy.

http://www.audioque.com/aq/index.htm
Ficaraudio.com

juliob

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Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 02:42 pm:

i own lanzar and they've some good products but your budget is high so forget about lanzar.

A good system for you would be:

2 FI SSD DVC 2ohm
1 Kicker ZX1500.1

You will be happy

ctmike

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Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 02:45 pm:

i'd replace the kicker amp with the sundown saz1500d^^ only cause you could get both around the same price, only the sundown would be brand new with warranty (always a nice thing). then just get dual 1ohm subs. still, that kicker amp is really nice.

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Username: Marcooo

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Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 06:33 pm:

Thanks for the suggestions. I had a hard time finding the sundown amp and the FI subs online but i think this is what you were talking about juliob

SSD12

DUAL 1 | DUAL 2

Fs: 27.0 Hz | 26.3 Hz
Re: 0.75 Ohms/coil | 1.5 Ohms/coil
Qms: 4.60 | 4.71
Qes: .52 | .49
Qts: .47 | .44
Mms: 192g | 201g
Cms: 0.18mm/N | 0.18mm/N
Sd: 480cm^2 | 480cm^2
Vas: 58.7 l | 58.7 l
Spl: 85.3dB 1W/1m | 85.3dB 1W/1m
Bl: 9.3 N/A | 14.1 N/A
Xmax: 21mm
Rms: 800W
Sealed box: .8-1.6 cuft
Ported box: 1.8-2.5 cuft @ 33Hz
Sub OD: 12.500�
Cut ID: 11.125�
Mounting depth: 6.500�
Displacement: 0.14cuft

Product code: 01912

Price: $ 189.00
*shipping is included

(html link wouldnt work)
As for the Sundown amp the cheapest i could find it for was $600 while i found the Kicker for $465.

If i did get one of these two amps and the subs juliob mentioned or an Alpine what would the deal be with my cars alternator? Im guessing an eclispes would be fine but how far do you think i could push it with a stock Ford?

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Username: 420alldaylong

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Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 07:09 pm:

Mark Fantini

http://www.low-hz.com/
Call Low-Hz.com and they will ship that Sundown SAZ1500D to your door for around $450.

I have a Sundown SAZ1500D its a badazz amp you will be very happy with that amp.

M.S.

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Username: Nd4spd18

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Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 10:10 pm:

" Im guessing an eclispes would be fine but how far do you think i could push it with a stock Ford? "

Other way around, most domestics have a little bigger alternators than imports. Aftermarket alternators are also cheaper for them.

And yes, you most likely will need to upgrade your alt when running 1600+ watts, regardless of the vehicle.

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Username: Marcooo

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 12:54 am:

Thanks for the help Joey that Sundown looks like what ill be getting.

About how much would a decent alternator cost?

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Username: 420alldaylong

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 01:03 am:

Great choice

What subs did you decide on?

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Username: Marcooo

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Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 02:45 am:

Still undecided since juliob didnt confirm that those where the subs he was talking about (looked like real nice subs anyways) and im still pretty set on an Alpine type x even if i could only afford one at first.

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Username: Marcooo

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Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 09:33 pm:

BUMP

cam

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Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 10:08 pm:

yup those were the subs juliob was talkin about. that would be a solid system.

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Username: Freezeman_7

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Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 10:11 pm:

those were the subs he was talking about, i have some, and love them. nice drivers.

Josh Raetz

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Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 11:52 pm:

i have to say i think the JL 1000/1 is a great amp

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Username: 420alldaylong

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Posted on Friday, March 30, 2007 - 11:59 pm:

JL 1000/1 is a great amp but for the price no way.

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Username: Freezeman_7

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Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 12:52 am:

^^ i agree with joey, its insane wat they want for their amps. i can get twice the power for that kinda money. i priced a jl amp for my comps it was like 700 bucks alone, i liked dry heaved wen i heard that sh!t. bottom line is listen to joey on this one. lol

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Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 01:02 am:

many here would also adavise against the type X - power hungry sub that overpriced

look back @ FI subs - top of the line stuff @ a great price ......

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Username: Freezeman_7

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Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 01:07 am:

^^x2. i fi stuff is pretty salty

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Username: Marcooo

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Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 01:14 pm:

Hmm definetly sounds like FIs the way to go, what line would you say gets you the best performance for the price (12 inch).

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Username: Marcooo

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Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 11:27 am:

BUMP

ctmike

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Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 11:29 am:

best performance? i'd say they would all perform well given proper power, depending how much you want to run, and if you want more sq or spl.

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Username: Marcooo

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Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 11:40 am:

I'd say sq over spl but i still want it to be loud as hell lol

Walye Jahedi

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Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 11:42 am:

listen man the best thing to do is to not spend too much money on a brand new system that will give out too much bass, i say this this for two reasons, 1)if you have too much bass then your car will need to adapted to withstand the immense vibration, no this is assuming you go to competition grade subs and 2)buyin the biggest and best also means you have to power it and most likely the car battery and alternator won't be able to power, i've just gone through this with my own sounds so think about it cos u may end up paying a heck of a lot more just getting additional equipment and wiring for the system

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Username: Marcooo

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Posted on Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 11:46 am:

Yea i know that and that's why i was wondering if anyone knew how much a decent alternator for a Ford would cost?