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Thread: Pioneer vs. pioneer premier |
    
Silver Member Username: Goodie_goop
Midland,
Texas
U.S.
Post Number: 325
Registered: Oct-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:11 pm: |
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other then the warrenty wuts the difference between pioneer and premier models cus they have the same looking models and prices |
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Gold Member Username: Johnfiac
IL
Afghanistan,...
Post Number: 1521
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 12:11 am: |
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for what exactly subs, hu's, amps? The premier is more of their competition end equiptment i believe... |
Gold Member Username: Johnfiac
IL
Afghanistan,...
Post Number: 1522
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 12:12 am: |
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meaning it can prolly take a little more of a beating then the straight out pioneer.. |
Silver Member Username: Goodie_goop
Midland,
Texas
U.S.
Post Number: 332
Registered: Oct-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 12:23 am: |
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so the technology behind it is different? alright cool, i wus jus wunderin cus i dont know much bout wuts good on HU's but i always hear the premiers are better then just pioneer but i could never see a diffrernce |
Gold Member Username: Johnfiac
IL
Afghanistan,...
Post Number: 1533
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 01:19 am: |
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I havnt personnaly used many pioneers, i have one i have yet to install... been so damn busy.. thanks logan  lol
But i have a JVC KD-G820 and for the price i find it very very good. Cant ask for more. But i am going to eventually get some other HU;s just to test with. the JVC has 3 pairs of RCA outputs... front\rear\subs\ and a bad@ss eq. 4V preout... about 160 on ebay i think... sweet deal i think.. and USB |
Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamic
San Diego
Post Number: 387
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 03:25 am: |
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There is basically no difference other than the warranty. Some of the Premier models have higher voltage output and maybe throw in an extra feature compared to the identical Pioneer model, but they are exactly the same parts internally.
This is from someone that owns a Premier 780. |
Gold Member Username: Johnfiac
IL
Afghanistan,...
Post Number: 1535
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 05:09 am: |
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maybe the same parts, but it has to be a different design to make it with different features or more features though, and a higher voltage is a pretty big difference, most HU speaker outputs are the same voltage but the RCA's vary alot if your amp can handle the higher input voltages, it puts less stress on the amp.
all i ever hear about pioneer being good..is the higher up premier models, alot of the rest of their stuff can be beaten for the price\quality in alot of places. |
Silver Member Username: Nd4spd18
Post Number: 503
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 05:21 pm: |
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Brad, that's incorrect. The Premiers have high quality components such as DACs for the best possible SQ, the regular Pioneers don't.
Killa, you should have got the KD-AR820 instead. JVC's arsenal series is their high end SQ line, like Pioneer's Premier line. |
Gold Member Username: Johnfiac
IL
Afghanistan,...
Post Number: 1591
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 06:09 pm: |
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they didnt have those at bestbuy.. i had to buy it there so i can exchange it faster i have problems with other cd players always messing up from being used so much so i just return it for a new one.. this one has no problems.. |
Bronze Member Username: Mrbass
Long beach,
California
United state
Post Number: 60
Registered: Feb-06
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| Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 05:31 am: |
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now if your talking about jvc sq line. id go for original jvc kd-sh1000, this hu is supreme sq |
Gold Member Username: Johnfiac
IL
Afghanistan,...
Post Number: 1677
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 06:30 am: |
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hmmm, its the KD-G820, its bad@ss and for the price... i have yet to find somthing that beats it. |
Bronze Member Username: Jesse59672
OK
Post Number: 69
Registered: Feb-07
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| Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 12:12 am: |
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the pioneer 4900 is nice its what i have. ive seem them both and they are the same exact thing. maybe like the guy said besides the warranty and the lcd. thats about it. |
Silver Member Username: Nd4spd18
Southeast PA
Post Number: 671
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 10:04 pm: |
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^^^^^
And the internal components, like I said above |
Silver Member Username: Nd4spd18
Southeast PA
Post Number: 673
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Friday, March 02, 2007 - 10:05 pm: |
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didn't bump |
Silver Member Username: Bigsim
NSW
Australia
Post Number: 290
Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 05:17 am: |
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For the latest HU's, the internal components aren't different. The difference between a P780MP and a P7800MP is basically just the model number and the warranty. Nothing else. |
Silver Member Username: Nd4spd18
Southeast PA
Post Number: 785
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Friday, March 09, 2007 - 07:22 pm: |
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^^^^^^
Wrong, I'll repaeat again what I said above:
The Premiers have higher quality components such as DACs for the best possible SQ, the regular Pioneers don't. |
Silver Member Username: Bigsim
NSW
Australia
Post Number: 291
Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 06:46 am: |
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I read what you said above. I'm saying it's wrong, that's all. There are some Premier HU's that don't have a corresponding regular Pioneer model, and some older units that had different features and pre-outs of differing voltages. The new ones that are available in two models, however, are exactly the same, except for warranty. |
Bronze Member Username: Mrbass
Long beach,
California
United state
Post Number: 67
Registered: Feb-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 04:58 pm: |
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just my opinion, i believe a high end pioneer can just sound like the premiers because pioneer like p7800mp has burr brown so as p780mp, so they both should deliver great sq, so its really just the warrant that change, unles you go for p880prs then its a different issue |
Bronze Member Username: Mrbass
Long beach,
California
United state
Post Number: 69
Registered: Feb-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 05:04 pm: |
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but M.S. could be right |
Silver Member Username: The_image_dynamic
San Diego
Post Number: 502
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 07:11 pm: |
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Simon is correct.
And like I said in my first post, the DEH-P7800MP and the DEH-P780MP are identical except for warranty. Same burr brown dac, same 5 volt outs, same 16-band eq, same list price... |
Silver Member Username: Nd4spd18
Southeast PA
Post Number: 861
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 12:31 am: |
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Well I'll be dammed, I just checked Pioneer's website and sure enough Simon and Brad are right, the specs are exactly the same for coresponding models. (p7800mp and p780mp for example)
Now when the hell did they start doing that. It used to be that the Premier models had features that the corresponding regular models didn't have. I guess this shows how long it's been since I've shopped for a Pioneer HU. lol. |
Silver Member Username: Nd4spd18
Southeast PA
Post Number: 862
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 14, 2007 - 12:31 am: |
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Well I'll be dammed, I just checked Pioneer's website and sure enough Simon and Brad are right, the specs are exactly the same for coresponding models. (p7800mp and p780mp for example)
Now when the hell did they start doing that. It used to be that the Premier models had features that the corresponding regular models didn't have. I guess this shows how long it's been since I've shopped for a Pioneer HU. lol. |
