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Username: Mmouse

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Hello everyone,
Have the HT-800D alarm bought from eBay and installed in my car. works ok except that when I try to remote start it from the remote, the engine runs for aprox. 2 sec and shuts down.
Any help will be highly appreciated .
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Username: Jaysettle

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I've bought the HT-800D+ also and am having the same problem. It starts and runs for 1.5 seconds each time(3 times) and shuts off immediately. I thought it was becuase I'm installing it on a diesel, which doesn't have spark plugs, distributor, etc..., until I saw you a similar post of this problem on this web site. Has anyone found solutions, much appreciated--

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1984 Mercedes 300D
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I figured out that the diesel engine on my 84 mercedes 300D shuts down by a fuel cut-off solenoid that is entirely mechanical and connected directly to the ignition switch. If one was so inclined to do so, he can connect the two vacum hoses that RUN DIRECTLY TO THIS SOLENOID(YES TO THE IGNITION SWITCH)to each other. Now having these connected together with a small rubber hose, he can simply pinch the hose that is connecting these two and shut off vacum air going through them. Try the remote start while holding this hose tight. It will finally start! Let go of the hose to shut the engine off. Having done this leads me to connect a timer relay up to an electric vacum on/off. The HT-800D+ is looking for an electrical cut off, however there isn't one. So one has to be made. I bought a timer relay off ebay for 16.00 and had an electric vacum on/off. The plan is to get the relay to trigger from a negative (-) so when the alarm computer shuts the car off, the relay will pick up the (-) and switch the solenoid open for 3 seconds or so, cutting off the engine. So now the engine cut off is "electronic", which is the language of the alarm.


Relay: VIPER CLIFFORD CAR ALARM DEI PULSE TIMER RELAY 528T


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I am getting ready to install my HT-800D and am curious about 2 things on the install diagram. What do I connect to this engine pic and what is the brown wires for? Double pulse/single pulse lock/unlock?Upload
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Also, what is this for?
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Emmet:
***Engine means that you cut the starter wire and one connect the two thick wires of the relay on to the starter wire part that heading to plug, and the other the second part of starter wire which exactly heading to starter engine.
*** Brown wires are for turn signals so when you arm/disarm the alarm they would be flashing.
*** The single pulse/double pulse wire if cut opens only driver door, if connected all you can open only driver door with one press on button or all doors with double press.
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Thanks. I will let you know how it works once I install it this week. Just waiting for my bypass module from ebay seller.
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I am not sure which is what? I thought that the one that says microwave sensor (on left) was the communication module. Is it really the shock sensor? Thought that because it says adjust sensitivity on the orange dial. Is the one on the right the communication module then?

They both have dials/knobs to make adjusts .
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Emmet:
actually it doesn't matter where you connect each one of the sensors as both inputs are the same.
and on the picture microwave is from the left, shock is from the right.
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Could you tell me what the metal thing is for? Threaded piece with 2 washers and nuts in the middle. It is not mentioned. What is it?/for?
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Emmet:
Frankly I donno what is this. I've got mine alarm without this metal thing. Actually I don't think you need it anyways.
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The metal thing (that Emmet posted a picture of above)is a door open/closed sensor. You put it in the door jam so that it can sense when the door is open and closed. When the door is open it sends a ground(-) trigger to the alarm. I hooked mine up and when the door is open it flashes the damn parking lights continuously until I close the door. But I think I read that to program the alarm, in either remote start timming mode or turbo timming mode, the door has to be closed. Not exactly sure.

Don't know why the lights flash continuously, kind of annoying.
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It is not mentioned in the wiring diagram. So i won't use it if you guy didn't.
I still dont know what that engine symbol is supposed to be. I have to get this thing done before the weekend because i am leaving town.

Lemme double check what the starter wire is on my car's wire diagram.
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jay:
In my opinion the turn light flashes in two conditions: 1.when the door is open - in order to warn other drivers that you may be dismounting from your car
2. after you turn off the car and leave it and didn't arm the alarm - it warns you what you didn't arm it.
I think it's nice.
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Emmett:
That's very simple:
You go to ignition harness plug (on the steering wheel column), find the ignition wire ( mine was thin red wire) cut it about 3 cm from the plug.
The side closest to the plug you connect to the middle contact of relay (87A), the other side ( the longer part of ignition wire that heading to the starter engine) you connect to contact (30).
That's it.
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I am going good here. Anothr question. What are these dead end wires for. The diagram shows them connectinfg to nothing. Do i just cap them and leave them?
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Holy crappers... I try the key to start 2 or 3 times without starting it and the car started beeping. Now nothing happens when i try to start it. I think i tripped some security feature. Anyone know how to get out of this? NEED HELP PLEASE!!!1
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I am guessing i should have installed the bypass module first! Oops. I trying to reset the securtity using tips from various auto forumss. Anyone here know what i should do?
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figured it out. put key in, in "on" position, leave for 10 mins then turn off. Do that 3 times and then try to start it. IT WORKS!!!

I will try installing it again next week.
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Emmet: Part of these "dead" wires are connected to door lock /unlock wires. Consult your door lock diagram.
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Can someone post where the wires suppose to go but in words that everybody or at least must of us can under stand.

Thank you
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Username: Alagen4ev

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the metak think goes to your hood it is the trigger that you have on the diagram
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did anybody get the remote starter working? i want to know where the blue whire from the 6p is going to and the 86 from the relay.
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Username: Khamblin

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I'm haveing the same problem with the Huatai ht-800d remote start and I am stuck with out my truck untill the I tell the installer how to fix the problem. I have a gas powered 99 Suburban. The eng. shut off after a couple of seconds. Can some one PLEASE HELP if you have any tips.
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i installed it. it works fine. if you have any quastions i will try to help you.
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Tihomir: Way to go! is the remote start working as well? If so , could you please describe it's wiring? Has it something to do with second ignition wire?
Thanks
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what car is
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If someone post the page that shows all the wires (the diagram) I will explain where to put all the cables in simple words. But I need for someone to post it because I lost mine. Also post the door lock diagram to explain it. I got mine working in just 3hrs. Also if someone needs the instructions in Spanish let me know.
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tihomir: mine is Toyota Corola 2004 LE
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5P
Purple – This wire goes to the battery charging indicator or to the engine oil indicator. Also, if you don’t find one of these wires you can connect it a wire with constant +12v or a wire that when you start the car has +12v. I jumped mine with the +12v of the alarm. Note: If you don’t connect this wire the car won’t start remotely, the car will start but it will shutdown in about 1.2 sec.

Green – this wire goes to the hand brake. It goes to a pin that makes ground when you pull the hand break. Also if you don’t find this cable you can connect it to ground polaroid or to the chassis of the car, but this is not recommended.
Note: If you don’t connect this wire the car won’t start remotely, the car will turn on but it won’t crank.

Orange – this wire goes to the stop light cable, for easy finding check the foot brake and look for a switch with 2 cables and follow the cable that doesn’t have power (it receive power when you press the brake)
Note: if you start the car remotely and you press the brake the car will shutoff.

Blue – this wire goes to the door sensor it can be + or - . The alarm is set to – by factory to use + see the jumper table.

Red – this was the only wire that I didn’t connect, but I think that it’s for the rollup window.

12P
Central Door Lock:
[Orange, white, yellow, orange/black, white/black, yellow/black]
First check how your doors lock work. In this part, take a look to the cables that go to the lock switch. Then check which wire has +12v. Then connect a wire to ground (-) and touch all the cables that don’t have the +12v. If the locks went up and down you have a negative trigger. The wire that makes the locks go down goes to the White/Black wire and the one that makes them go up goes to the White wire. Then join the Yellow wire and the Yellow/Black to ground them. The Orange and Orange/Black don’t go anywhere.

Now if the locks don’t do anything with the ground, connect the meter to +12v and touch all the wires, one of the wires will make the meter turn on. Now connect a wire to the +12v then touch all the wires that didn’t make the meter go on. If the locks went up and down you have a positive trigger. The wire that makes the locks go down goes to the White/Black wire and the one that makes them go up goes to the White wire. Then join the Yellow wire to the Yellow/Black and connect to a +12v wire. The Orange and Orange/Black don’t go anywhere.
For the other two I don’t know.

Grey – this wire goes to the trunk or hood sensor. The sensor must be negative; it’s like the hand brake sensor. Here you use the metal thing; the metal thing is for the hood.

Red/black – is for the trunk release. This wire sends ground. If your trunk motor uses +12v to open you will need to use a relay.

Pink – it goes to the siren wire (the red one)

Brown – it goes to the turning signal.
Note: it has two brown cables to use one for the left and one for the right.

Yellow/red – it goes to the 85 of the relay the rest is like Mighty Mouse said:
“That's very simple:
You go to ignition harness plug (on the steering wheel column), find the ignition wire ( mine was thin red wire) cut it about 3 cm from the plug.
The side closest to the plug you connect to the middle contact of relay (87A), the other side ( the longer part of ignition wire that heading to the starter engine) you connect to contact (30).
That's it.”

6P
Black – Ground
Yellow – STR
Blue – ACC
Brown – ON
Red - +12v
Green – air conditioner

You can use this site for tips
http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/viper/N564V_07-05.pdf
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I have also installed this alarm and I have the same problem that the engine will run for about five secnds then shuts off. Does anyone know what the solution is I think it might be the purple wire for the oil pressure/battery meter that shuts your engine down if it runs low or out. any ideas? My installation is on a 98 jeep wrangler. thanks alot
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charles;
Purple – This wire goes to the battery charging indicator or to the engine oil indicator. Also, if you don’t find one of these wires you can connect it a wire with constant +12v or a wire that when you start the car has +12v. I jumped mine with the +12v of the alarm. Note: If you don’t connect this wire the car won’t start remotely, the car will start but it will shutdown in about 1.2 sec.
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I HAVE INSTALL MY HT800D ALARM THAT I BOUGHT FROM EBAY. I CAN NOT GET THE FEATURE "AUTO MODE" OTHER WISE KNOWN AS "OWNER RECONITION" TO WORK. INSTRUCTION SAID TO TURN ON THIS FEATURE I WOULD HAVE TO DO THE FOLLOWING;
1. DISARM ALARM
2. OPEN DOOR
3. TURN IGNITION TO "ON"
4. PRESS AND HOLD THE 4TH BUTTON (THE ONE WOTH THE LIGHT SIMBLY) FOR 3 SECOND WITH DISTANCE OF 2-3 METER = ABOUT 6.75 FEET.
THE SIREN SHOULD EMIT A SHORT CHIRP AND AUTOMODE SHOULD DISPLAY IN MY REMOTE SCREEN.

SO FARE I HAVE NO LUCK AT ALL IN GEETING THIS FEATURE TO WORK.
I HAVE QUESTION REGUARDING THE 3 DIODES ON THE SIX PIN (6P) IGNITION WIRES. (SEE PICTURE).
DIODE ARE ONE WAY FLOW e-. MY QUESTION IS IF I
INSTALL THESE DIODE, MY ALARM WILL NOT KNOW IF THE KEY IS ON WHAT POSITION OR ANY POSITION.

SO THE BIG QUESTION IS FOR THOSE WHOM WAS ABLE TO GET THEIR ALARM WORK WITH ALL THE FEATURES, "DID YOU USED OR INSTALL THE THREE DIODE AS SHOWN ON THE DIAGRAM"?

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XIONG: These are only arrows that show current flow direction, not diodes, so you don't use any diodes at all.
Regarding 'owner recognition" feature mine worked well and I in order to turn it on I operated according to manual - so try it again. Personally I dislike this feature and turned it off as every time I park my car beside my house the car may open up without me noticing that. It sences the remote control in 10-20 meters range , so it kind of dangerous feature.
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Does anyone have a copy of the Huatai HT-800D instructions they could send me? I have one installed in the truck I just bought. Remote start works fine, but the alarm goes off about every four hours! I don't understand all the features of the remote control either. thanks
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Rob: catch it here
http://www.msbdigital.com/downloads/Huatai%20HT-800D.pdf
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I have a couple of questions about this system. Can you attach the
(5P Purple – This wire goes to the battery charging indicator or to the engine oil indicator) to the tachometer?

Also I have to connect the (Brown – it goes to the turning signal) to a negative parking light I assume it is the same as the turn signals. I noticed that the wires are positive will I need a relay since I need to connect them to a negative?
One more question is on the hand brake wire any clue where I can pick that up in a 2001 Hyundai Elantra?

Thanks for any feedback
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I have a couple of questions about this system. Can you attach the
(5P Purple – This wire goes to the battery charging indicator or to the engine oil indicator) to the tachometer?

-You can’t attach it to the tachometer, but you can attach it to the same +12v wire of the alarm (the red one in the 6P)

Also I have to connect the (Brown – it goes to the turning signal) to a negative parking light I assume it is the same as the turn signals. I noticed that the wires are positive will I need a relay since I need to connect them to a negative?

-Yes, you can do that, but with the relay, but make sure that you attach the wire to the turning light and not to the stop light.

One more question is on the hand brake wire any clue where I can pick that up in a 2001 Hyundai Elantra?

-You will see a pin some where in the hand break. This pin is like the door’s pin. Attach the wire to the cable that only makes ground when you pull the hand brake.

If you need more help, this is my email party_boy_xxx@hotmail.com
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Geronimo: I've wired pink ( oil pressure sense ) wire to constant +12V, and green ( hand brake ) wire to body. Firstly remote start worked in some strange mode : engine started and after 3 sec of running the starter worked again making some inpleasant noise. After a while something changed: the car starts and them alarm goes off and the engine shuts down.. Do you have any idea whats wrong?
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Mighty Mouse:
“engine started and after 3 sec of running the starter worked again making some inpleasant noise”
-Make sure that the purple wire is wired to a constant +12V wire, make sure that the wire is also +12V when the car is on. Because the purple wire is also used to notify the alarm that the car started successfully.
“the car starts and them alarm goes off and the engine shuts down..”
-When you said that the alarm goes off, you mean that the red wire lost the +12V?

Excuse my writing, my natural langue is Spanish.
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Geronimo: purple is connected to 6P brown wire that goes to "ON" position of the ignition switch.This wire has +12V after start for sure.

Alarm goes off means that alarm sounds ( as in case that someone broke into the car ). So when I remote start my car it starts for 1 sec, and then I hear the alarm and the engine shuts while alarm continuing make noise until I disarm it.
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Mighty Mouse:

Ok, I think there is something wrong with the connection.
Try this:
Disconnect the 12p plug from the alarm.
Disconnect the orange wire (5P), the blue wire (5P) and the red wire (5P).
Disconnect the green wire (6P).
Connect the purple wire (5P) to the red wire (6P).

After doing this, try the remote starter again. If the car starts successfully, connect the wires, that I toll you to disconnect, one by one checking the remote starter each time you connect one of the wires. If the car starts again successfully proceed to connect other wire.
By this way you can check where the problem is. If the problem is when connecting the 12P plug, check the grey wire and the yellow/red wire.
If the car does the same thing let me know.
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OK II'm having some issues. I'll lock and unlock the car and for some reason the pictue on the lcd screen does,'t chsnge. So I can't even test the remote start since the system doesn,t indicate armed. Having trouble installing blinker lights also, I hooked them up to my negaive parking light wire with a relay.
worked for a little bit then quit. It doesn't seem to be fring from the module anymore.
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Hi there, I was wondering what the deal is with the starter kill relay. The diagram seems to tell you to hook the yellow wire on the relay (position 86) to the "on" wire on the steering wheel column but there is no mention of this in this forum. Do i do anything with this yellow wire or just tape it up.
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I believe you would splice it into the on wire in the ignition harness. the same wire you connected your brown wire from 6p.
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corey:
There is a bridge between the contact 87A and the contact 30, so when you complete the circuit with +12v on the contact 56 and ground on the contact 85 the bridge opens.

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Yellow/red – This is the ground. When the alarm goes on it will send ground to complete the circuit.

The contact 56 goes to the ON wire. So, when you try to start the car, when the alarm is on, the alarm will send ground and you will complete the circuit (with out knowing) when you put the car in on position. The bridge will open cutting the starter cable.

So, cut the starter wire. The side closer to the plug goes connect to the middle contact of relay (87A), the other side (the longer part of ignition wire that heading to the starter engine) goes connect to contact (30).
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has anyone else had trouble with the remote not showing that the doors are locked or arming the alarm with the remote?
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Brian Brower, I have experience same problem with the remote showing incorrect information status of the alarm status. What I did what remove and reinstall the battery of the remote and waite for a while. It all seem to be working fine after that.

I am greatly disappointed. The two way communication system with this alarm seem very slow and unreliable.

Questions? This alarm has two warning system(warn away and alart) right?
I have not being able to get the "warn away" to work properly. As soon as walk by my car, it give a "warning" following by the actual "alart or trigger of the alarm".
Can anyone shed some light on this area for me please.
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hi, thanks for the info brian and geronimo, the alarm works pretty good and remote start also works, I still have to figure out the locks i'll get it eventually. The biggest problem now is that the alarm rearms itself even though I switched the pin on the p2 jumper to off. I switched the pin with the alarm off and then rearmed when i finished like the instructions said to but it still rearms???any ideas.... also is there a way to stop the marker lights from flashin when remotely started??
thanks
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