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Thread: Better Amp Kicker or Jl audio |
    
Silver Member Username: Qcsfinest
Charlotte,
North Carolina
Post Number: 154
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 05:21 pm: |
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Other than the Jl 1000/1 putting out 1000 from 1.5-4 ohms. Head to head what is a better amp the kicker sx1250.1 or the jl 1000/1? |
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New member Username: Drivingreckless
Nuthingsville,
Florida
United state...
Post Number: 7
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 08:30 pm: |
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jl quality is respectiful! but kicker is still good for prices but if u have money go for the JL 1000/1 |
Bronze Member Username: Akula_class
Post Number: 49
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2006 - 02:44 am: |
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And that JL has been benched to put out more than 1000rms. Oddly enough. |
Bronze Member Username: Kevin420
Gilbert,
Az
USA
Post Number: 17
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 01:20 am: |
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Sorry..Biast towards kicker...of course...Customer support is better...No machines |
Silver Member Username: Fandim
Reno,
Nevada
United State...
Post Number: 857
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 07:13 am: |
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customer support is better? I had a minor defect with a W7 I bought at a local shop.. sent off an email at around 8pm - and got a call from the vice president of JL Audio the next day, letting me know that my replacement was waiting to be picked up at the shop I got it from. |
Silver Member Username: Nnnnick_b
Weddington,
Nc
Usa
Post Number: 530
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 12:31 pm: |
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Both kicker and JL amps are underrated. A jl 1000/1 will bench around 1100-1200 watts. A kicker kx 1200.1 will bench around 1400-1500 watts. This is, of course, with adequate voltage and current. |
Silver Member Username: Juliob
Santo Domingo
Dominican Re...
Post Number: 338
Registered: Dec-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 05, 2006 - 01:35 pm: |
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i'll better buy phoenix gold 1200.1 before buying jl amp, cuz is too expensive for the little thing it does, of course is great but too expensive, i prefer buying a new orion 2500d that has more power at every watt and is 200 dollars cheaper |
Silver Member Username: Lbeckner
Tulsa,
Ok
Usa
Post Number: 960
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 10:49 pm: |
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Neither Lanzar. You won't even need a battery for this amp. If you feed it 10 amps @ 6V you will get a total of 923 watts. Because Lanzar doesn't know ohms law so they don't have to use it. |
Gold Member Username: Jonathan_f
GA
USA
Post Number: 5926
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2006 - 11:03 pm: |
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JL tech support is FAR better than Kickers.
But amp to amp, the JL is the better built one, and for that reason is more expensive. |
New member Username: Damionlldn
Post Number: 1
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 11:45 pm: |
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I cant believe kicker even comes up in this conversation. First off all of thier amps are rated at 14.4. I would love to find an average car that can run at 14.4 volts all day with the volume cranked. Its a long story but I spent close to a month research on a lot of amps. Kicker sucks because if u drop below 14.4volts so does the wattage, dramatically. I had a kicker 850.4 powering MB Q's. It sounded like sh*t it was distorted and the amp cut off after an hour. I switched to two 300/2 jl audio amps and it sounded 100 times better. JL has regulated power supplies, 106 sn ratio on most amps, .05 thd and much better heat dispersion design. Kicker Comp VR subs are the sh*t but their amps are horrible
Top well known amps are Zapco and JL audio |
Silver Member Username: Dustin3
Tigard,
Or
U.S.
Post Number: 756
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:29 am: |
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"I had a kicker 850.4 powering MB Q's. It sounded like sh*t it was distorted and the amp cut off after an hour"
i dought that. either yoy must be a die hard jl fan because all the kicker amps i have owned have never gone into protection. you must have had the gain riduculously high ot had it wired wrong because kicker amps dont go into protection unless wired or set wrong.
the 1000/1 i would take if i had the money though.
"Kicker Comp VR subs are the sh*t but their amps are horrible"
your the only one in this whole forum that would say that. NEWB - know your stuff before you give false info.
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Gold Member Username: James1115
Ct
Post Number: 5604
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 01:51 am: |
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I agree with Jonathan Jl is very well bult and the customer service is impeccable the two times I have used them. I like Kicker amps also but the JL is a better amp. |
New member Username: Damionlldn
Post Number: 2
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 02:09 am: |
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Omg are u guys insane... please just call kicker's tech dept and ask the tech "what happens if the amp doesnt get 14.4 volts what will the wattage be?" ask him that ques for any KX or SX. BTW I been a kicker fan until I got the two JL audio\memphis amps which was this year. I am a fan of a company who produces good results. |
Silver Member Username: Lbeckner
Tulsa,
Ok
Usa
Post Number: 973
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:06 am: |
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Way back in the day my Kicker ZR240 went into protection mode from getting hot. I ran it with the gain all the way up and the bass boost all the way up and after about two hours it got hot and went into protection. Since then I haven't had a Kicker amp go into protection, but I have blown many subs with Kicker amps.(including Kicker) |
Gold Member Username: James1115
Ct
Post Number: 5617
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:10 am: |
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all that is saying is that you don't know how to properly set up a amp. |
Gold Member Username: Bestmankind
Los Angeles,
CA
USA
Post Number: 3584
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:54 am: |
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you almost don't need to talk to jl audio if something goes wrong with your stuff as long as you bought it at an authorized dealer.
i blew one of my jl 6.5 coaxial speaker 3 months after i got it installed at an authorized dealer. when i went back to the store they just changed it and told me they will deal with getting that replaced with jl audio. |
Gold Member Username: Bestmankind
Los Angeles,
CA
USA
Post Number: 3586
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 11:57 am: |
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you almost don't need to talk to jl audio if something goes wrong with your stuff as long as you bought it at an authorized dealer.
i blew one of my jl 6.5 coaxial speaker 3 months after i got it installed at an authorized dealer. when i went back to the store they just changed it and told me they will deal with getting that replaced with jl audio. |
New member Username: Kicker301
Post Number: 1
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:00 pm: |
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I need some serious help with my car audio |
New member Username: Kicker301
Post Number: 2
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:03 pm: |
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Ok here is the deal, yesterday I had a one Kicker L5Series and a Kicker 750.1 powering the baby. And it thumped like sh!t...... Now today I bought another Kicker L5Series and another Kicker 750.1. After hooking them both up i noticed that it doesnt even sound as loud as one did before. What can be the problem |
Gold Member Username: Bestmankind
Los Angeles,
CA
USA
Post Number: 3589
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:22 pm: |
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how did you hook them both up? more details please. |
New member Username: Kicker301
Post Number: 6
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 12:25 pm: |
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Well I had a capacitor but for some reason it blew. I have the power wire running from the battery to like a distribution block. And I have each amp connected in the block. I was just curious is it because i have both amps on one battery. Is thats why its only getting have the power. |
Silver Member Username: Night_mirage
Amman
Jordan
Post Number: 228
Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 01:12 pm: |
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JL audio is better than kicker .
but kicker amplifier still good and powerfull .
i would go on sx1250.1 becouse 1000/1 is too high price for 1000 RMS . |
New member Username: Damionlldn
Post Number: 3
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 02:53 pm: |
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"Omg are u guys insane... please just call kicker's tech dept and ask the tech "what happens if the amp doesnt get 14.4 volts what will the wattage be?" ask him that ques for any KX or SX. BTW I been a kicker fan until I got the two JL audio\memphis amps which was this year. I am a fan of a company who produces good results."
KICKER KX/SX SERIES AMPS ONLY PRODUCE ADVERTISED WATTAGE WHEN GIVEN THE CORRECT VOLTAGE OR HIGHER. which means if your current setup can't sustain 14.4 volts than switch to JL Audio. Plus why would you buy an amp that has a THD rating of 1.5% JL's is .05. JL audio amps give true power 11-14.4 volts....I Had kicker amps before I know what the difference is.
Kicker Audio's number
405 624 8510
405 624 8583
call and ask the tech what will the wattage be on your amp if the voltage drops to 12.8 you will be shocked |
Silver Member Username: Dustin3
Tigard,
Or
U.S.
Post Number: 780
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 05:41 pm: |
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you tell us. you still need a good alt and maybe an extra battery, so if you have all that your system wont be droppin way below 13 volts.
and if you think about it even if it does drop below the 14.4 you will still be gettin more watts then the 1000/1. it puts out like 1100. and the kicker amp are underrated and the 1200.1 puts out 1390, benched. |
New member Username: Damionlldn
Post Number: 6
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 06:36 pm: |
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lol uh u need more than an alternator and a good battery to make a car sustain 14.4 volts at idle. Now if you are driving that setup could work because the engine is charging the battery. and didnt u read above....the kicker amp can produce 1390 and higher ONLY if its given more than 14.4 volts. the amp is rated at 14.4 volts if it could produce more watts at that voltage then the amp would be 1390 not 1200. When u buy an amp do u go by the manufacturer's specs or by what some dealer says to sell u the stuff? |
Silver Member Username: Night_mirage
Amman
Jordan
Post Number: 229
Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 09:42 pm: |
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So KICKER is still good at amplifiers . Maybe sub's not that much but amplifier is powerfull .
if its on me i would wire kicker amplifier and JL sub's ..
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Silver Member Username: Dustin3
Tigard,
Or
U.S.
Post Number: 789
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 12:00 am: |
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i would still get the 1000/1 but its just way too expensive. if i had the money i would. i am not arguing that i wouldnt get the 1000/1 over the 1200.1, i am just saying that the 1200.1 is a great amp and even if its rated at 14.4 volts when it drops down it will prolly be around what the 1000/1 is rated at 1100. if i had the money i would, but not many people on this forum can buy a $ 900 amp. IMO |
New member Username: Damionlldn
Post Number: 8
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 12:23 am: |
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well i wouldnt pay $900 either I would pay $675 but any person can buy this amp onlin for like $730-$800... I have had 5 different systems different amps differnt speakers etc etc.... Why settle for less and then change it later? instead spend the money now and u wont have to spend it later on the smae thing |
Gold Member Username: Jonathan_f
GA
USA
Post Number: 5933
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 01:11 am: |
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Because the car audio industry isn't about quality, it's about "good for the money". If it does cost money, then it better be stupid loud and stupid big. If it sounds half decent getting stupid loud then it's fantastic, usually touted as the best thing they've ever heard. |
Silver Member Username: Dustin3
Tigard,
Or
U.S.
Post Number: 790
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 01:13 am: |
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bingo |
Gold Member Username: Jonathan_f
GA
USA
Post Number: 5934
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 01:23 am: |
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Then if you decide to get some esoteric, uber high-end piece of equipment, or simply ask about it, some jackass on a forum is going to say "YOU'RE AN IDIOT!!!!!! For that price, you could get/have gotten three inferior products that noone has ever heard of!!!!" |
Gold Member Username: Cenus
Hicksville,
Ohio
Usa
Post Number: 1601
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 01:43 am: |
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just to make clear kicker amps are rated at 13.8volts not 14.4, and the sx has a lot more features than the jl. |
Silver Member Username: Lbeckner
Tulsa,
Ok
Usa
Post Number: 977
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Saturday, April 15, 2006 - 03:14 am: |
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"all that is saying is that you don't know how to properly set up a amp."
alls im saying is that i abused it pretty hard and it never went out. it was very reliable. |
