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Thread: Best Detector???? |
    
New member Username: Ryder
Fremont,
CA
Post Number: 2
Registered: Mar-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 - 09:23 pm: |
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I have recently been looking into getting a radar detector...I have heard that the K40 2000p is one of the best..anyone with a suggestion please help.. |
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Bronze Member Username: Vipersbyms
Post Number: 51
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 10:19 pm: |
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Escort Passport 8500 is the best rated detector, and costs $300 |
Gold Member Username: Glasswolf
NorthWest,
Michigan
USA
Post Number: 2453
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 12:16 am: |
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actualy the best, hands down, bar none, is the Valentine One
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Bronze Member Username: J_capone
Chicago,
IL
USA
Post Number: 13
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 03:53 am: |
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i got a BEL cordless radar detector in my car..
works nice..Ka, K, and X bands
does the job for now..
i was just reading about the new radar detectors that actually tell you which way the signal is coming from...im gonna have to invest in one of those
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Gold Member Username: Glasswolf
NorthWest,
Michigan
USA
Post Number: 2812
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 01:21 pm: |
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the Valentine One has done this for at least ten years now 
The Escort 8500 is probably my second choice for a detector.
I've had quite a few Bel models, always their top of the line, and I've had a lot of them fail, stop working, fall apart, etc.. the sounds they generate aren't very distinctive, and their range isn't that good.
But still, they are better than nothing at all, for sure.
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Silver Member Username: Vipersbyms
Post Number: 142
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 06:39 pm: |
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numerous tests have been done, and the valentine one has come in 3rd in the tests, behind #2 a beltronics, and behind the #1 detector the Escort Passport 8500. ive researched detectors many times thoroughly, and without a doubt the passport is the best. valentine one is NOT the best, so you can put your hands back up, and to add to top it off, it costs even more than the passport and beltronics, at a cost of $400. |
Silver Member Username: Vipersbyms
Post Number: 143
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 06:41 pm: |
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glasswolf you may know everything about car audio, but do research on radar detectors and you'll see that the valentine one is not the best detector. |
Gold Member Username: Glasswolf
NorthWest,
Michigan
USA
Post Number: 2969
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 08:01 pm: |
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I've not only researched them, I'ev sold them, and actually owned all of them.
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Silver Member Username: Vipersbyms
Post Number: 146
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 09:30 pm: |
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well your wrong |
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Gold Member Username: Glasswolf
NorthWest,
Michigan
USA
Post Number: 2981
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 09:19 am: |
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whatever.
learn some grammar, please.
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Silver Member Username: Vipersbyms
Post Number: 150
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 10:32 pm: |
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learn grammar? where are my grammatical mistakes? |
Silver Member Username: Vipersbyms
Post Number: 151
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 10:34 pm: |
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you're instead of your?... in the previous post, please last time i checked "i'ev" wasn't in the dictionary. |
Gold Member Username: Glasswolf
NorthWest,
Michigan
USA
Post Number: 3010
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 12:35 pm: |
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there's a difference between a typing mistake and ignorance.
you're wrong. I mistyped.
now like I said, blow off. I'm tired of your pantybunched whining.
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New member Username: Lazarus
Keyport,
New Jersey
Post Number: 8
Registered: Jul-04
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| Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 01:38 pm: |
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Damn, Kevin and Glass be going at it like a some little kids. I'm going to have to agree with Glass on this one though. The V1 is the best detector out there. All the sites and studies I've seen has the V1 on top of the Passport and the BEL, but not by much. The biggest feature of the V1 is that it tells you which direction the radar is coming at and how many. Lets see any other detector do that. |
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| Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 12:25 pm: |
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The V1 blows the 8500 away. I've owned them both, but the 8500 went on eBay about a month after I got it. |
New member Username: Inprogress
Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 01:36 pm: |
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v1 baby |
Bronze Member Username: Deathshadow
Post Number: 66
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 03:20 pm: |
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Best range in real road situations this year (2004) was awarded to the Escort X50 at 2 1/2 miles for both instant on and constant Radar modes. At this far out neither Bel nor the Valentine detectors picked up a signal. The Valentine detector also failed to pick up POP mode Radar at 1,000 and 500 feet distances while the Escort X50 and Bel did detect it. Both detectors cloaked against VG2 effectively (even though VG2 isnt made anymore it is now spectre 1, 2, and 3). The escort X50 was fully stealth to VG2 and Spectre 3 while also showing superior detection distances to Spectre 1 & 2 over the Valentine (which was not stealth to spectre 3) and the bel detectors. All detectors FAILED to pick up laser when aimed at the front targeting zone of the vehicles.
Bottom line both Valentine and Escort X50 are awesome detectors and both will provide radar detection with ample warning time. The Valentine did how ever fail in POP mode radar detection.
- Speed Labs Testing
[Note] Speed labs uses ONLY police officers professionally trained to operate speed detection equipment to get rid of any bias possibility. NO ONE part of Speed Labs ever touches a Radar/Laser gun or RDD while testing Radar/Laser/VG2 detectors.
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Gold Member Username: Glasswolf
NorthWest,
Michigan
USA
Post Number: 5036
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 03:13 pm: |
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stop cross-posting.
it's extremely annoying.
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 02:03 pm: |
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Ok people, you need to know that the companies that make the radar detectors make radar detector detector for the cops! How stupid is that? I used to own 8500, it wasn't the best. The stupid cops used the detector made by Escort to detect 8500 to catch me! Those freaking losers should be banned. What's the point of making a radar detector if you're going to supply the cops with something that'll beat it? I never knew that when I bought my 8500 crap. It is not stealthy like they claim, cops know you have it. Did you also know that 8500 is very old??? It came out 4-5 years ago. Cops have better toys now to fight 8500 old technology. |
Gold Member Username: Glasswolf
NorthWest,
Michigan
USA
Post Number: 5417
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 04:38 pm: |
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the 8500 X50 is reprogrammable for updating.
anyway, the radar guns have always been made by the same companies as the detectors. It's part of the came. welcome to capitalism. It's how they sell new models of detectors.
The trick is having the detectors before the police departments can afford to buy new guns, or the car insurance companies can donate the new ones (which they do, by the way.)
that's life.
Thankfully I live in a rural area, and I pick up cops long before I'm in range of their guns anyway. I don't honestly care if they know I use a detector or not as long as I don't speed past them like a moron and get pulled over.
In reality, most cops still use X band always on, or K band instant on anyway. At least in Virginia they all used K band always-on, and here where I live now, it's all K band instant on. They can't afford new cars, let alone anything else. heh
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Bronze Member Username: Carguy
Post Number: 68
Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 09:13 pm: |
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I personally had Escort 8500 radar detector. It was alright but I wouldn't say it's the best. I would like to test the Valentino one though. From what I read it sounds interesting. At least it's not like the Escort that plays double agent or I could be wrong.
Escort 8500 is useless against a laser, trust me, I had a cop point it at me and it didn't even go off! What a $300 garbage toy. In Canada, most cops use laser, very few use the good old X band. Maybe it's cause we pay too much tax!!! The cops seem to have all the high tech toys before us.
Oh did I tell you we have cop cars that look EXACTLY like a normal car? It goes around looking for radar detectors. Talk about wasting tax payer's money! Unlike there in the states, it's illegal in Canada. So I'm sure those guys have a really busy day cruising around all day looking for phantom radars.
Anyways the point is, against lasers, I haven't found anything that I can honestly say it works. |
New member Username: Checkmate8
Post Number: 2
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Saturday, December 25, 2004 - 06:31 pm: |
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Hi has anyone tested the new PNI radar detectors? If so please let me know how they stack up again the escort 8500 the valentine1 and the bell x55 thanks |
Gold Member Username: Glasswolf
NorthWest,
Michigan
USA
Post Number: 6923
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Sunday, December 26, 2004 - 05:08 pm: |
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www.radartest.com
read the reviews.
Isaac, it's pretty well known that 'lidar detection' is pretty pointless due to the narrow beam radius.
however, there are lidar jammers that will drastically reduce the range of a lidar gun that work well in conjunction with a good detection system for X, K, and Ka bands.
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New member Username: Nwdmax
Post Number: 2
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, December 31, 2004 - 10:29 pm: |
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I own both now and the Escort is in the wifes Tahoe.
Once you've had the directional indicators there is no going back.
The fit and finish on the Valentine one is superior too.
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Silver Member Username: Deathshadow
Post Number: 378
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Monday, January 03, 2005 - 06:43 am: |
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They are both great radar detectors; I myself don’t fancy the directional arrows (I slow down each time anyway). Here in NY there are security systems that trigger X, K, KA, and even Laser so it really isn’t good or to accurate here (not to mention piggies are pretty much hanging out of the trees and hit you in every direction they can with every type of speed measurement device)... |
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| Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 02:06 am: |
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Hey kevin,
What's up? I can not believe you are back, I have not seen you in so long... Your a fu**ing idiot now that I have your attention. The Valentine One is easily the best radar detector. Here is a fu**ing newsflash for you, what you read in car and driver that says it is #3 is a paid advertisment or if you are referring to the article from a few years back, it was staged. My cousin used to work for them.
So go fu** yourself and stop reading biased sources. |
New member Username: Markstanco
Texas
Post Number: 7
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 05:43 pm: |
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yes, radartest.com IS A BIASED review.
I have had the 8500 and bought the V1 a few years ago. To me it is better, andf I like the multiple readings. this has saved me a few times at shopping centers that I frequently pass.
Downfalls to the V1... If you are in a shopping center and on mute, it will drive you CRAZY with the multiple signals fading and coming back. They also need a "No X" choice. That would be nice as it is on the 8500. |
KMARTXR Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 11:53 pm: |
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i dont even use a radar detector
most of the cops around here use a system called VASCAR or something like that. my friend is a cop and told me about it. most radar detectors cant even detect it |
Bronze Member Username: Markstanco
Texas
Post Number: 11
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 12:13 am: |
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that is correct, radar detectors can not see it, because it is based upon human input in to a computer. VASCAR stands for Visual Average Speed (something something.. cant remember the ending). It is HIGHLY inaccurate and can be won in a court much easier than laser or radar from what I understand. |
Bronze Member Username: Kicker
Slave lake,
Alberta
Canada
Post Number: 99
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 07:27 pm: |
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how about scramblers how good are they? |
Gold Member Username: Glasswolf
Wisteria,
Lane
USA
Post Number: 8139
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 09:20 pm: |
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www.radartest.com
scramblers and anything from that rocky mountain radar company are a scam, unless you're paying at least $1200+ per band for the scrambler, and then they're illegal to own or operate.
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Silver Member Username: Kicker
Slave lake,
Alberta
Canada
Post Number: 109
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 06:15 pm: |
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its only a crime if yoy get cought for one and your site you gave me glass says there are still a couple of states that they are still legal but it does not say wich ones? do you or any one eles know? |
Silver Member Username: Riebread77
Post Number: 334
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 01:20 pm: |
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The best detector can be subjective. Different detectors pickup different bands better than the other. For instance, I lived in jersey, i have the escort passport 7500 and it worked great...saved me lots of times becuase the cops used KA bands and nothing else really...but when it came out, laser just came out so it was vague...I moved out to NY now and all the cops use laser and nothing else. Laser can't be used when you moving so your pretty much dead if they shoot you. So i'm due for an upgrade where they made much improvement to the laser band detection..So talk to people in your town to see what kind of band or bands the cops are using and make your choice based on that. |
Bronze Member Username: Xdrummer03
Tenessee
Post Number: 53
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 10:28 pm: |
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X50 8500 Escort > Valentine 1. They both are like neck and neck on reviews.Also if you say you have had all of a type of radar you have got to be joking. |
Silver Member Username: Supraspyder420
Sammamish,
Wa
U.S.
Post Number: 129
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 05:43 pm: |
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Hey glass, i dont want to start anything but i was jsut wondering why you say the V1 is the best yet teh website you put up says that the BEL is the best? |
Gold Member Username: Glasswolf
Wisteria,
Lane
USA
Post Number: 9236
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 10:16 am: |
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the V1 was the best for years.. the 8500 X50 is better, but came out much later as well, as this stuff changes all the time.
You're dredging up a thread that's months old.
get whatever makes you happy
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Mrlettucehead Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2005 - 04:47 am: |
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Hang on now all, let us not get into a tizzy. Mrlettucehead is here to help.
Now, neither the the V1 nor the 8500 X50 is the best. No radar really works perfectly, and I would advise all to get one made by Emerson or Daewoo, these fu*kers really know how to make microwaves so their radar detectors must kick assssss!
I will tell you what, I am so impressed by the short time it takes to cook a chicken part I will share a story with you all.
First off, the best radar is the one that caught the "uniburper" who was pulled over in eastern Maine, not because if his lack of radar thingy or another but really the guy was a complete buthole. You can see the whole story here:
http://www.tafkam.com/uni.html
Anyhoo, the p_rick was caught with not only a Valentine AND and Escort radar detector, but also an unsafe 12 volt ciggy plug in thingy extender that let him plug his laptop PC into the lighter and let him run it all the way to rest area restrooms BUT also some transcripts of this thread, which the judge dismissed in favor of Sansui. If that don't make sense I donno what does.
Just trying to help,
'Lettuce
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Gold Member Username: Glasswolf
Wisteria,
Lane
USA
Post Number: 9413
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Monday, August 22, 2005 - 11:18 am: |
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running two detectors in the same car will cause both to false and be unusable. the circuitry used to detect radar, produces a harmonic of the same frequency it's trying to detect, and the second detector will pick up on that and false as a result.
go back to the cabbage farm.
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Mrlettucehead Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 10:11 pm: |
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sorry Glass had a few too many beers when I posted this, was supposed to be funny. Guess I failed. |
Gold Member Username: Carguy
Post Number: 4242
Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 11:20 pm: |
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Don't worry too much, I think GW enjoyed it. I thought your name was funny. |
Bronze Member Username: Tekniqal
Flagstaff
Post Number: 26
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 09:49 pm: |
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I have experience with BEL980 and it is very good. However it is 3 years old and still working perfect. They have new models out that detect photo radar that are at many intersections. |
New member Username: Frankr
San Diego,
CA
USA
Post Number: 4
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 10:03 am: |
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Hello,
I have Valentine One radar detectors in both my cars and Valentine One has kept them current with upgrades since they first came out. I took a chance and installed an ESCORT SRX with Laser Shifting is my S2000. The ESCORT finds radar when the Valentine One fails. I keep the Valentine One to tell me which direction the Radar is.
Frank
San Diego
The only difference is big dollars for the better detector. |
New member Username: Redsoxrich88
Post Number: 7
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Sunday, November 06, 2005 - 10:25 pm: |
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wats a good radar for like 150 bucks or less? |
New member Username: Dfranke
Post Number: 7
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 01:15 pm: |
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ther isnt one. get a valentine one i have one and im in love with it. saved me this mornig from getting a ticket on the way to school.. |
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| Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 10:50 pm: |
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sti driver by bel is the all around winner,
(sorry guys.)it's undetectable and as good
as all of the above. |
New member Username: Penning10
Heber,
Utah
United States
Post Number: 3
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 03:19 pm: |
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Now, I am only giving opinion here. Dodge, Ford, Chevy. It is all preference I believe. I have been a long time fan of the Escort as I own an x50 and an SR7 with the ZR3 shifter (installed in my wifes car to eliminate the need to remove every night), and have owned about 20 Valentines (buying and reselling). Upon using the Valentines for a bit, I always would end up back to my Escort x50. But recently I purchased the latest Valentine with POP and the latest firmware. I have been so impressed with this latest model, I sold my X50 just yesterday to use this Valentine in my car. I do love the X50 and its range, but the arrows help a great deal. Another point to make is turning off the X band on either model helps immensely, and increasing the sensitivity of Ka on the Valentine are a couple options I always use on any radar detector which allows you to defeat bands. |
Silver Member Username: Ftalife
Post Number: 241
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 02:58 am: |
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The best are jammer/detectors where the company guarantee's to pay any ticket fees. |
Silver Member Username: Ftalife
Post Number: 242
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 02:59 am: |
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With the Need for speed being high, The need for quality should be high also. |
Gold Member Username: Project6
Post Number: 9259
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 03:00 am: |
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You are so wise! |
New member Username: Penning10
Heber,
Utah
United States
Post Number: 4
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 03:43 pm: |
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Companies who offer a no ticket guarantee with their detectors are not always the best ones www.ftalife.com! And every website I have ever heard say that are the ones who sell the Rocky Mountain Radar (aka P.O.S). The only selling point they have is just this. Charge $300-$400 for a cheap detector that doesn't work, then when the idiot who bought one gets a ticket, RMR may pay for that ticket (and I stress the word "may"), will only be obligated to pay only up to 15 mph over the limit. This may cost them $100 or so but they have made $200-$300 for useless piece of plastic with lights inside of it. It is all just a scam which they are profiting highly off of. K-40 I understand offer a guarantee similar and Blinder does with their m-20/m-40 laser jammer and I hear these are great products, but the RMR detectors are garbage. |
New member Username: B00m_b00m_mobile
Cali
USA
Post Number: 7
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 05:53 pm: |
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I've been in the market for a radar detector for quite some time and done alot of research online for and found this site http://www.radarbusters.com/support/speedlabs-2006/default.asp
the testing and reviews seem unbiased and they just finished their testing reports for 06.
Heres a summary they say the top performers are the bel rx65 and the escort 8500 x50 which are very similiar because escort bought out beltronics. Then next is the valentine one then the bel sti because they are more expensive and have some features that aren't necessary. The V1 has directional arrows and the Sti supposedly defeats all radar detector detectors which isn't needed in states where radar detectors are legal.
*This is just some information I've read and certainly not from my first hand knowledge of these detectors. Just thought I'd pass this info along |
Bronze Member Username: Seanpenn
Post Number: 17
Registered: Jan-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, October 17, 2006 - 01:35 am: |
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Learned a lot in this post. Thanks |
Silver Member Username: Sinful_systems70
Post Number: 131
Registered: Nov-06
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