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Username: Ps1k0

Post Number: 113
Registered: Aug-04
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for vehicle wiring diagrams, goto www.bulldogsecurity.com

just take your time, read everything in the manual and double check all your wires, and you'll have your alarm in in no time.

good luck.
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thanx but im looking for wire diagram for the alarm not the car (clifford intelliguard 8000)
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rogers
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I've read through all the past posts but haven't seen the problem I'm having yet ...

My Clifford (Con.300) was going off randomly, say for 5-60 seconds with small gaps inbetween. It was doing this for about 10-20 minutes every few hours. The strange thing is the keyfob does not turn off the alarm, but still works fine. Also, the lights don't flash when it's going off.

After a night of alarms, it seemed to stop, but then 2 days later it did the same thing (I haven't had time to go to a dealer yet). This time I disarmed the system and disabled the auto-arm, then locked it manually.

About 6 hours later the same thing happened EXCEPT the alarm is not the normal alarm - now it's beeps (like a truck reversing) but very loud. Not quite as annoying as the alarm though ...

I've checked the memory of the alarm (by looking at the flashing lights) and it's mostly proximity sensors but with one bonnet sensor in the middle.

I'm a stuck for ideas now ... I can get to a Clifford dealer in a few days but if i can avoid waking the neighbours it would help!

Any help is greatly appeciated (sorry for the long post!)
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 406
Registered: Jun-04
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Thanks Roger. Those of us that answer questions on here do it because we like to help. So it means alot to us when the person we are helping is willing to take the time to help themselfs.

The reason I was joking about people not reading is we get the same questions about 20 times a week. Especially on the car audio threads. So it does get kinda old.

Ok before I get into detail with your alarm I need to do some quick reaserch.
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 407
Registered: Jun-04
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Ok first off thanks for all the info. You have done your home work, and it shows.

Ok the lights not flashing tells me your not getting enough power to the brain, or the brain is going out. I will bet that your fuse holder is corroded, or the terminal lead that hooks to the battery is corroded. Look on the positive side of your battery and you will see a set of wires comming off and going into 2 fuse holders. Pull out the fuses and see if you see any corsion. If you do replace or repair as required. I would check the fuses, and the conection to the battery while you are at it. If either looks corroded clean them with a wire brush, or replace if they look two bad.

If that doesn't fix it I would disable the prox sensor and see if it stops then. (page 13 of the manual)

http://www.clifford.com/guides/ogs/concept300uk_owners.pdf

If it stops once you disable the prox sensor, then that's what was most likely causing the problem. I would leave it disabled till you can go by the dealer and have them replace it.

If you try both and it keeps happening then you brain is probably taking a dump. I would put it into vallet mode (page 11 of the manual) untill you get a chance to run by the dealer. Vallet mode will bypass all the alarm sencors, but still alow you to use the remote as a keyless entry, till you can get it fixed.

I might have went into more detail than i needed with you, but I wanted to return the favor. It helps me trouble shoot when I have an idea of exactly what the alarm is doing. So thanks again for all the details in your post.

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I am looking for a wiring diagram for a clifford 700 IQ system.Clifford took the install guides off their site.
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if any one could help i need a wiring diagram for a arrow 3 clifford alarm the dealer i used to get it fitted to my previous car which is now scrap wants to charge me around 100 quids .. any help would be much appreiciated thanks
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Username: Big_ray_t

London
UK

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jan-05
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can anyone please help with a clifford concept 650??? i have somehow disabled the proximity sensor and cant turn it back on. any info would be gratefully excepted raylinlaw@ukonline.co.uk
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Username: Big_ray_t

London
UK

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jan-05
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can anyone please help with a clifford concept 650??? i have somehow disabled the proximity sensor and cant turn it back on. i would also like to know how to change the sensitivity. also, with my lack of knowledge i have inadvertantly disabled the black jax feature. any info would be gratefully excepted raylinlaw@ukonline.co.uk

Thank you, Ray T
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Username: Ps1k0

Post Number: 115
Registered: Aug-04
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Clifford alarm wiring diagrams can be found here
http://www.clifford.com/guides/other.asp

hope this helps
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Username: Minger

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jan-05
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I have a clifford alarm system (about five years old) with an intellepage module on it. The pager company that I have been using for years went out of business. I called the store where I bought and installed the system to link the module to another number, but they did not know how to do it. I've been to three different shops and on the clifford website, as well as called Directed Electronics (now ownes Clifford), no help there. I have tried to get that number linked to a different pager, cannot be done. Will someone please help me! I need to know how to set a different pager number into the Intellepage module on my Clifford system.
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Username: Kegroller

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jan-05
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It looks like you guys really know what you're talking about, so maybe you can help me out here. I just bought a '98 Civic with an old Clifford alarm in it.

It is either a Bullet 2 or Bullet 4, as they both have the same remote, and I don't have the original owner's manual. Tuesday night my remote went on the blink - light in the remote goes on when I hit the button, but doesn't disarm the car and I need to remove the battery to have the light turn off in the remote.

Here's the real kicker... I was able to unlock my car with the key, the alarm went off, I hit one of the two buttons (valet switch? is it? i don't know?) above the Clifford LED while the key was in the ignition, and was able to disarm/start the car. I drove it home, parked it, and haven't been able to duplicate that since.

I'm located in the center of Boston, used Clifford's site to find dealers, and called around. Only ONE place within 15 miles even knew what a "Bullet" alarm was, and they won't be able to get me in to reconfigure a new remote till late next week. They did reccommend that I unplug the brain and see if that at least disconnects the alarm and allows me to drive the car until then.

I need this car to get to work every day, so if anyone could help me out today, I'd really appriciate it. I don't NEED the alarm and can wait until the shop gets my new remote in to reactivate the system, so if unplugging the brain (or anything else I can do myself) will at least let me start the car, please let me know.
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Username: Kegroller

Post Number: 3
Registered: Jan-05
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Ok, checking other sites, it may just be the remote battery... but I already replaced it, hoping that was the only problem. What are the chances that the battery I bought was bad too? And is the constant Remote Light a symptom of a dead remote battery?
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 462
Registered: Jun-04
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Ray, its kind weird that clifford doesn't have the manual for that alarm on their site. Iwould talk to a local dealer and see if you can get a manual from them. You might want to try the 600UK manual. It might be the same alarm in all reality. Page 21 will tell you how to set all the menues like you want.

Minger, this doen't happen much, but I don't know what to tell you. My only sugestion is for you to keep calling clifford dealers till you find the info you need.

Dave, it sounds like your remote needs to be replaced. Kinda agrivates me that they are making you wait till next week for something that takes 15 min to do. As for unpluging the brain it probable not going to help. If you do the car shouldn't start. I would look into both of the manuals and put it into valet mode, (Bullet 2 page 11 and bullet 4 page 7) If the last owner changed the code I would play with the remote and see if you can put it into vallet mode that way.

here are the links for both manuals.
www.clifford.com/guides/ogs/bullet2_owners.pdf
www.clifford.com/guides/ogs/bullet4_owners.pdf
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NM_Guy
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I am "car-sitting" my son's Jeep--he's in the Middle East....started the car this morning, but had to go back into the house; turned the motor off and when I shut the door, the alarm went off....after the alarm stopped sounding, the back (parking) lights are blinking and so is the LED inside the car....but, the remote has no effect; can't disarm. Any suggestions? All of the Clifford dealers in town are closed on Suindays. Thanks!
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 464
Registered: Jun-04
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NM thats kinda funny you say that. The lady that took care of my car when I went to saudi had all kinds of problems with my alarm.

Well I really need some more info. What model ararm is it? Is the led flashing non stop like the alarm is armed, or is it blinking a couple of times then stoping, then blinking again? Is the car battery low? Does the led on the remote light up when you push the arm / disarm button?

I would like to help you out but I really need some more info first. So let me know anything you can think of and I will see what I can do for you.
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we`ve just bought a car with a clifford alarm on we don`t know the model and have no manual for it or warranty, it was working fine, now all of a sudden when you press the remote to lock/unlock the doors it doesn`t make a sound anymore, it still locks but there is no sound, please help if you can
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 467
Registered: Jun-04
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It is probably in valet mode. If the red light is on constantly, (not flashing when you lock the car) then thats what it is. Let me know what your remote looks like and I should be able to tell you how to take it out.

I sugest you take it to a clifford dealer and have them check out the system, and try to get the waranty honored in your name. It might save you if you ever have a more serious problem.

If you chose not to, have your husband find the brain (under the dash) and find out what model it is. Once you have that it is easy to find the manual on the clifford web site. Trust me you need the manual for these alarms. The manual will save you lots of time and money, just like in this situation.
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PRO
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i have just bought a fiesta with a clifford matrix alarm installed but no manual.
The problem i have is the alarm doesnt appear to work!
On arming, the doors lock and the indicators flash twice! On dissarming the locks open and the indicators flash once! (surely this is the reverse of what it should do!)There is no audio chirp from the siren during these operations!(however the siren works as i got to go off with the * button on remote)
I belive the alarm is in valet mode(the red led is on constant!)I have tryed to exit Valet mode but the only switch i can find is a toggle switch under the wheel which appears to do nothing!
Can anyone help?
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 468
Registered: Jun-04
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Nope that is right. Clifford uses two chirps and flashes for arming, and one for disarming.

Yes it is in valet mode, so it will be easy to fix.

www.clifford.com/guides/matrix.asp

Look thru the manuals I sent you the link for, and find your remote. Once you do it will tell you how to take it out of valet mode.
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PRO
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located manual and have managed to take alarm out of valet mode. all working fine now!
Thanks to jeremyC
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Help me! K number one I'm a girl, and I know a bit about alarms but not much.
I was driving on the freeway and all of a sudden, my car quits, but i have steering and brakes. I managed to pull over thank god, and couldn't figure out what was wrong. I tried starting the engine, couldn't.
A cop stopped to see if I was ok, my hazards were on. I told him i looked under the hood and everything looked and smelled ok. I explained how it cut off and he asked if I could turn off the car, arm it, and disarm it. This worked, I was able to start and drive again! But I am so scared of it happening again. The cop just said he heard it somewhere and thought he would try it.
What happened first of all? I bought the car from someone else, and the alarm looks a little old, it's a Clifford though. No book came with it so I'm still trying to find the serial to look it up.
Could there be some faulty wiring or brain problems? This is the first time it happened but i don't want to experience another time.
I have an Acura Integra 1990. Help me!
The alarm arms an disarms properly otherwise.
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turkish jade menthol
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The battery on my car dided the other day while i was at school, i lost the remote to make my car start (when the battery dies my alarm freaks out.) and now i cant start my car, i lost the remote, and id like to remove this alarm on my own so as i dont have to take it anywhere, i own a 1995 honda civic, and i was wondering if anyone can give me some help on what to disconnect, thanks, i have an OLD ALARM with the 1, 11 buttons on it
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jdt
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It seems that you all know alot about Clifford. I was wondering if you could help me? I bought a RSX III alarm/remote start a couple years ago and the transmitter died on me, so Clifford replaced it with a RSX 3.5 transmitter. The people that installed it can only get one (1) button to work, it locks/unlocks, but the other buttons don't do a thing, I can't even remote start the car. Is there something wrong with the transmitter. Clifford has my only reciept and I don't have duplicates so they will not replace my transmitter.
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 469
Registered: Jun-04
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Hay thanks PRO, glad I could help.

B Miller, there isn't much I can do without knowing some more info. If you can find the model # on the brain (should be in big black raised letters) then there is alot more I can do. Your other option and the one I feel would be the best for you, is to take your car to a Clifford dealer, have them check the alarm, and get your name put on the waranty. If you don't want to spend the money, find the brain, let me know the model, and I should be able to help you more. If that keeps happening you need to know how to put the alarm in valet mode. If it is one of the alarm settings (black jack) then you need to put the alarm in valet mode, till you can turn the black jack function off. (again you need the manual to do this, so I need the model #)

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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 470
Registered: Jun-04
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Turkish, I don't sugest taking the alarm out yourself, unless you have the proper tools. You will need a wire pliers, a soddering gun, sodder, and some shrink tube. If you have those tools, and don't mind taking your time you should be ok. Start at the brain and follow every wire to were it ties into the cars wiring. Carefully remove the alarms wire and reconect the factory wire using the soddering gun, sodder, and shrink tube. This is very very important, if you don't get every wire, or don't reconect all the wires, something in your car WILL NOT WORK. Considering the alarm ties into the ignition, this would be a bad thing and you will still be stuck with a car that won't start.

JDT, I need to know the model of the alarm. I don't know of a RSX III by clifford. Nor could I find it on the web page. It sounds like they are only programing one of the buttons into the alarm. Some of the cliffords require you to program multiple channels of the remote in order to get all the functions to work. Since the remotes are interchangable I am guessing the alarm you have is one of those. Look under the dash and find the brain, it should have some big black raised letters (700 IQ, Arrow 3, or so on) Write down what you find, and then look up the manual on the clifford web site. Once you find the manual it will tell you how to program the rest of the buttons.
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Jeremy, thanks for your attempt. I didn't look at the brain before but it is a Clifford XL 500. I'm trying to find the wiring diagram online but can't seem to. I bought the car from someone else, so didn't get any necessary documentation.
Maybe this will help you?
Also does anyone have a wiring diagram for an xl 500 or at least know which wires are what, and color?Thanks so much.
I can be emailed at bmiller667@shaw.ca if someone has some insight for me. :-)
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 471
Registered: Jun-04
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www.clifford.com/guides/ogs/xl500_owners.pdf

That is the link for the owners manual, and from what I can tell it doesn't have the black jack feature. It does have a starter kill, and that might be casuing the problem. As for the wire diagram I don't deel with those, but I wish you the best of luck. I still feel your best bet would be to take your car to a Clifford dealer, have them check the alarm, and get your name put on the waranty. Problems like the one you are having can be a pain to find, even for someone like me who trouble shoots fighter jets for a living.
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Jeremy C. How much do you think it will cost to get my alarm taken out by a local, or a professional store?
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 474
Registered: Jun-04
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Taken out, your probably looking at 40 to 60 bucks. Thats figuring it at 40 an hour. It takes me about 1 hour to get one out, so any good installer should be the same, if not faster.

If you get a chance call some of your local clifford dealers and ask them what they would charge you to completly disable the alarm (tell them its ok if they leave the wires and brain in the car. I would even tell them the problems you are having and see what they say. Hopefully one of them will make you a deal you can't refuse on a new alarm, or disable the old one for really cheap.
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Zion
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I recently purchased a used car with a clifford alarm in it. The car battery died and when i try to attach a new one the alarm goes off and i cant turn it off with the remote. I have no idea what model of alarm i have, i only know its clifford becuase that is what it says on the remote.
someone suggested changing the battery to me but the red light comes on on the remote when i press buttons...
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SandBagger
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I have a 2000 Ford Explorer. I think the engine kill switch is made by Clifford. On my key ring, there is a tiny round magnet that I must touch to the dash board first, prior to starting the engine. Not sure of the model number of this "alarm" system, but after almost five years of no problems, the red dash light is no longer illuminated and my vehicle wont start.

Can someone give me a few tips to help me get out of my garage? I am about as handy as hemmoroids.


Thanks
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 478
Registered: Jun-04
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ZION, Try this. Disconect the battery. Leave it unhooked for a min and then reconect it. Right after you reconnect it press the lock/unlock button on your remote. You should here a few beeps after the alarm picks up the remote signal. If you have two remotes just press one, wait a sec and press the other.

One more thing, find the brain and see what model it is. Then go to the clifford web site and downloads the manual.
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 479
Registered: Jun-04
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Sand, Without some more info, it is hard for me to help, but I will see if I can get you on the right track.

Find the coil, and follow the power wire back away from it. A few feet back you will see were someone has spliced two wires in. (basicaly they took the factory wire, cut it in half, and conected a relay in between it). Once you find that spot, remove the wires that were added in and reconect the factory wires. That should give you power to start your explorer. (make sure you have the wires sodered and shrink tubed, do not just twist the wires together and tape)

I hope this helps. Its kinda hard for me to narrow it down, since I don't know what system you are running. So I just gave you a brief overview on how most cliffords run their ignition kill switch.
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SandBagger
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JeremyC,
I have found a small black box under my dash that says "Clifford TouchPoint 3-Point Auto Immobilizer".

It has many circuits in it that appear to be fine. I can't help but think that a fuse somewhere needs to be replaced. I am going back out to check BOTH the fuse box on side of the dash, and the fuse box under the hood.


Do you happen to know where the fuse would be located? I would think for security reasons it would not be in a box that is so accessible. More than likely hidden in-line somewhere.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply.
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SandBagger
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o.k. I did not find any 20 amp fuse under the dash by following the wires from the circuit box. The fuse must be in-line under the hood. Further investigation into this immobilizer, I have learned that the ignition system, the fuel pump, and the starter motor are ALL controlled by this "Clifford Immobilizer". So simply by-passing this security system by MYSELF is not an option, as I feel other steps must be taken after bypassing. Such as reconnecting the original systems. Anyway, I think the next step is call the wrecker truck for a tow to the REAL GARAGE.
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Username: Bernie_h2001

Billings, MT
USA

Post Number: 2
Registered: Feb-05
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have an old Clifford Arrow 2 and need a wiring diagram to know what to hook up where. Please e-mail me the wiring configuration at bernie_h2001@yahoo.com. Thanks
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 480
Registered: Jun-04
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Sand, yeah that will probably be your best bet. If you have the right tools you can do it yourself. Just be carefull, and be sure to follow every wire reconecting the wires it tied into.

Something else to check is the power wire that comes off of your battery. There should be a power wire conecting to the positive side of your battery. Look about 6 to 12 inches down from it and you will see an in line fuse holder. Pull the fuse out and make sure it isn't blown, and that the conections aren't coroded.
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Zion
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What exactly does this 'brain' look like?

I cant attach the battery without the alarm going off. The remote is essentially useless...
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Zion
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I just checked and i didnt find any brain under the dash...the closest thing was some black box with 'lectron roches' on it...
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SandBagger
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Update:

Vehicle is now running. Mechanic had to completely remove the Clifford Immobilizer. It was no longer working.

He found the blown fuse (under the dash) and replaced it with no results. He then by-passed the fuse and ran 12 volt current directly to said product ... still no results.

Thanks for all your help JeremyC, it was greatly appreciated!
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Zion
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nm the last post, i found the box...it only has one wire coming out of it and 3, pinned ports (one long 2 short) and there is nothing in them. there is also no model number anywhere on either side, just "Clifford, the science of security"...

im lost.
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laichzeit
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Im in exactley same situation as Zion, tried connecting battery and using alarm, no go, alarm still goes off.
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 482
Registered: Jun-04
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Hay zion thats not the brain, that sounds like the prox sensor. Use that wire to track back to the brain. The brain is about 3 inches by 4.5 inches, its black and has raised black letters.

Hay did you try what I told you even if it is going off. Hook up the battery, and disconect the power wire for the alarm from the positive side of the battery. Then once you reconect the power wire press and hold the arm / disarm button on your remote. If that still doesn't work move on to the next paragraph.

What it sounds like is your alarm was armed when the battery died. So when you reconect it the alarm start going off again. You really need to find the brain, so you can see how to put it into valet mode using the switch inside the car. Once you have it in valet mode you will be able to work with it and it not go off every 30 seconds. I still think you will have to program in the remotes like I said earlier, but if you know the model you cal look in the manual and know exactly how to do it.
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Zion
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well i disconected the brain from the wiring harness and was able to start the car...

the power for the alarm is hooked directly to the battery?

i found a small black nob on the box, it looks like you can turn it, i didnt try. without my model number i cant get the manual to learn how to program.

so their is 2 black boxes? one brain and one sensor? i only found one box with clifford written on it.
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 483
Registered: Jun-04
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yes the power for the alarm comes directly from the battery

yes there is more than one box, the brain will have close to 50 wires comming out of it.

I still think you found the prox sensor. That nob is to adjust the sencitivity.

As I said, follow the wires from the box you did find, and it should lead you to the brain.

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McScriven
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I have recently bought a car with a Clifford alarm - no idea which model.

I was replacing the fuse box in the car yesterday so needed to disconnect the battery.

On reconnecting the alarm (it's an immobliser as well) it seems to have knocked out the ignition. A security feature I guess but I now can't start the car.

Looking on the siren there seems to be some sort of lock for a key (I have a key which fits it) however when I turn it nothing happens either way it just keeps turning.

Does anyone have any ideas how to reset it so I can get the car going?
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Username: Jeremyc

Kunsan Afb
South Korea

Post Number: 486
Registered: Jun-04
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Mc, do me a huge favor next time. Take a few min to look for the same problem you are having. I have answered thas question numerous times all ready.

On that note, I am all ready here so try this and we will go from there.

Disconect the battery. Leave it unhooked for a min and then reconect it. Right after you reconnect it press the lock/unlock button on your remote. You should here a few beeps after the alarm picks up the remote signal. If you have two remotes just press one, wait a sec and press the other.

One more thing, find the brain and see what model it is. Then go to the clifford web site and downloads the manual.


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Hello im hoping you can help me here !
i have a clfford concept 50x recently i went to the car wash , when in the car wash the engine was running and my alarm just for no reason pipped twice , i know in other postes people have had similar problems (i know ive read the lot)
everything works the lights flash the doors lock unlock but the churps are now silent and the siren and wondered what this could be could you point me in other directions ? i will check the fuses and holders for corrosion now ive read above posts as i have all my mannuals and could be my battery backup flat as charging of the back up might be the case but like i say any other help would be great !
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