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Username: Slider2828

Post Number: 1
Registered: May-08
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Hey Skater you are the man. I had a question.

I have a matrix 50.5x and in the afternoon I can get into the sysmtem learn mode. But for the life of me I can' now... Is there anyway to factory reset ths sucker? Thanks

-ken
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 309
Registered: Mar-06
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Kenneth,

The only way that I know of to factory reset the unit is to send it back to the factory. The older Clifford units used to have an option to do that but not the newer ones.
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Username: Willn2lickit

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jun-08
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Skater,

Seems like your the man with links to manuals. I'm looking for a manual for a
Clifford remote. On the back it says RPN 479v/p/x,2(66)codes,FCC ID:EZSDE1478.
I would really appreciate any help. Thanx
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Username: Graham16v

Post Number: 7
Registered: Jun-06
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Hi Skater Bum,

I need to adjust the shock sensor on my friends Arrow 5 alarm.

Do u know how to do it or do have the manual for this model.

Thanks

Graham
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 311
Registered: Mar-06
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Graham16v,

Here's a link to the installation guide for the Arrow 5:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/clifford/N909595_08-04.pdf
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Username: Jayzte

Post Number: 2
Registered: May-08
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Does any one have installation guide for Clifford falcon 2/II?

My email: crashboat@hotmail.com

Thanks a lot!



Jay
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Username: Graham16v

Post Number: 8
Registered: Jun-06
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Thanks Skater Bum.
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jun-08
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Anyone got any suggestions on using the cliffnet wizard cable with a usb converter? I know it is said that it won't work, BUT it did work with me for some time... now I've changed laptops and it doesn't work anymore. Before I remember something like asigning the right comm port to the usb to serial converter, in the system hardware manager.....but that doesn't do the trick this time.....
anyone...anyone.... ???
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Username: Tctrjeep

Post Number: 9
Registered: Aug-07
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Did you happen to change OS when you changed laptops? Wizard won't work with Vista, and only the latest version (2.20) will work with XP.

Most of the USB-to-Serial converters are a real pain to work with. Some of them that work well under XP don't work well under Vista. That may also be your issue.
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Username: Tctrjeep

Post Number: 10
Registered: Aug-07
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I meant to say that some what work well under pre-XP don't work well under XP, and some that work under XP don't work well under Vista.
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jun-08
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Yes, I actually did switch to Vista.... I'm going to try it again tomorrow with a XP based laptop.... will let you know how that went....
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Username: Gatorsong

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jun-08
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I'm installing the avantguard 5.1 into my 2004 s2000. I'm stuck on how to connect the wires on the door lock system. The s2000 has a factory keyless entry module.

If you look at the wiring diagram http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery&cmd=viewimage&img =241360
you will notice there is the power unlock and power lock wires. This is where I'm stuck at. I dont know which type of door lock system (my guess is reverse polarity) or if there is a special way to connect the alarm wires to the keyless module in my car.

Any help is appreciated
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 313
Registered: Mar-06
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Song Tran,

From the look of the diagram that you posted, the locks are reverse polarity.
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Username: Gatorsong

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jun-08
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Just to double check since this alarm isn't an easy job.

I want to connect H2/1 to and H2/2 to the pink/black wire

H2/4 and H2/5 to the yellow/green wire.

of course i have to make sure the master switch and the motor is connect correctly (i'm going to use a multimeter to check)
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 314
Registered: Mar-06
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Song Tran,

As long as you follow the directions on pages 23 and 24 of the installation guide:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/clifford/N919640_11-06post.pdf

you should be fine. You may have to 5-wire the PINK/BLUE wire as well.
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Username: Gatorsong

Post Number: 3
Registered: Jun-08
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Thanks a lot skater bum. I'm going to start on the installation tomorrow. I give you my results in a few days or ask for my help if I do get stuck again. I think everything is pretty much straight forward now.
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Username: Nemisisuk


UK

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jun-08
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Hiya all, a question for anyone, what is the jack plug on the wizard interface cable used for? it looks like a 2.5mm audio female jack plug.
Thanks in advance
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Username: Nemisisuk


UK

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jun-08
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Skater Bum ref the question above have you an idea what it is used for?
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 316
Registered: Mar-06
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Chris Edge,

I do not know. I have one of the original CliffNet cables and mine does not have the jack you speak of.
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Username: Gatorsong

Post Number: 4
Registered: Jun-08
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I decided to let a professional to install my alarm, but the installer is stuck on getting the remote start to work. Not sure if it's the immobilizer bypass or the actual intellistart module itself. He tried to use another immobilizer bypass and still couldn't get it working. I think he also try leaving the key in the ignition and it still wouldn't work.

The order that it goes through when the remote start is press.

1) the dash board lights goes on just like when i turn the key.
2)the ignition doesn't crank (no sound from anything)

Any clue?
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 317
Registered: Mar-06
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Song Tran,

Did the Installer program the Tach Signal? Does he have the Starter output wire of the unit going to the car side of the starter wire and not the key side? Is the factory alarm system bypassed when remote starting?
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Username: Gatorsong

Post Number: 5
Registered: Jun-08
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Skater,

I'm not sure the answer to the questions you ask. I will ask him when i drop my car off tomorrow. I would assume it has done all the things you said since he is a dei certified guy and he been doing install for 8 years. I remember him mentioning trying the other side of the starter wire so he has tried both side.

My guess would be the key sense wire needs to be activated in my car before the immobilizer reads the code correctly. I really think it has something to do with the immobilizer because the engine is not even cranking.
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Username: Gatorsong

Post Number: 6
Registered: Jun-08
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Ok he got the remote start to work. I have one final question. My car is a manual and i got this alarm cause the has safe start. For some reason i still can start the car without doing safe start. Do you think he connected the wire for auto/manual transmission? or is there some programming i have to do?
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Username: Sweepdoggy

Post Number: 26
Registered: Mar-06
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The female jack is 12v input so you can bench test your alarm,
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Username: Sweepdoggy

Post Number: 27
Registered: Mar-06
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Song he has prob has it set to an auto, all you would have to do is ground one wire to set it to auto!
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Username: Azouts

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-08
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Hi,

I installed a Clifford Matrix 12.5X alarm and I have the following problem:

When I lock the car with the key button I cannot unlock it with the alarm remote.

The car is a Toyota MR2 mk3.

Is that normal?
Is something wrong with the connection?

Regards
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 319
Registered: Mar-06
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Az,

This is normal. You should always use the alarm remote to lock/arm and unlock/disarm the system. Do not use the factory remote controls or door keypad. The Clifford system will not arm or disarm without the use of the alarm remote control.
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Username: Azouts

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jul-08
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One more question.

I was interested in installing the Power Window Module along with the Clifford Matrix 12.5X on the Toyota MR2 spider and I was told by the dealer that it cannot be done.

Is that true?

He said that my windows have a + - polarity operation (something like that) and the module does not support it but I am not sure if that is true.

Regards
AZ
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 320
Registered: Mar-06
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Az,

What year is the MR2?
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Username: Azouts

Post Number: 3
Registered: Jul-08
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2000, mk3
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 322
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Az,

It should be possible. What model of window module are you using?
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Username: Darknight7777777


Uk

Post Number: 5
Registered: Sep-07
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hi skaterbum,

i asked you a little while ago for a clifford intelliguard 950 alarm uk version and you replied as to not being able to get hold of one. i was wondering if you could see if you could get one again. Also i am after a clifford concept 650 g5 wiring diagram.i dont mind paying for the intelliguard one if any one else has it.
thanks
ash
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 329
Registered: Mar-06
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Ash Draven,

I checked again for the Intelliguard 950 and all they have is an Owner's manual. As for the Concept 650, they have the Owner's manual but no install manual. The have both the install and Owner's guide for the Concept 650 MKII if that helps? I do have the installation guide for the Concept 650 but it is at home and I am currently away on business. If that one would work for you, let me know and I will send it once I return home.
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Username: Darknight7777777


Uk

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Registered: Sep-07
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hi skater bum,
i think the concept 650 mkII install manual should be fine. i don't know what to do about the intellguard one might have to sell the alarm and get another one as this goes in my personal car.
thanks
ash
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 330
Registered: Mar-06
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Ash Draven,

Here's a link to the installation guide for the Concept 650 MKII:

http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/clifford/4291973011_Clifford_Concept_6 50_MKII_Installation_Guide(UK).pdf

If you want the install guide for the 650, send me your email address.
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Username: Darknight7777777


Uk

Post Number: 7
Registered: Sep-07
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skater bum,
i just tried the link but it take me straight to the directed website asking me to login. could you email it to me: darknight7777777@yahoo.co.uk

thanks
ash
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Username: Darknight7777777


Uk

Post Number: 8
Registered: Sep-07
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I am fitting a conecept 650 alarm to a fiat punto mk2 2005 it has a built in engine immobiliser which works of the transponder in the key. My question is will intellistart still work or if not is there anyway round it but still keeping the original immobiliser also.

thanks for any help
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 331
Registered: Mar-06
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Ash Draven,

The IntelliStart should work fine with it as long as you have a transponder bypass module. The module will only bypass the transponder when remote started so it will keep your factory security system intact.
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Username: Rossdagley

Welwyn Garden City, Hertfordshire
UK

Post Number: 1
Registered: Aug-08
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Hey Skater Bum :-)

I need to adjust sensitivity and a few other settings of my 650 with the cliffnet software, but having not used it in years, I have since upgraded my laptop and dont have the copy of the Pro installer version of the software. It seems I cant access the installer features I need to access to stop my alarm triggering - can you possibly PM me and enlighten me where I might be able to resolve my issues? Thanks in advance.

Ross
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Username: Rossdagley

Welwyn Garden City, Hertfordshire
UK

Post Number: 2
Registered: Aug-08
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Ash Driven - the alternative if you dont have a bypass module is to remove the transponder from one of the keys, and glue it to the barrel.
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Username: Chrisevans85

Post Number: 5
Registered: Apr-08
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hi can you help i am traying to wire the indicater to my clifford 650 mk2 on my bmw e46 2001 uk car but thay wont work can you help thanks
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Username: Bionic51

Post Number: 1
Registered: Oct-08
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Skater Bum

Any chance on a copy of Clifnet Wizard Installer ed.

Greatly appreciated!!!!!

bionic51@cox.net
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Username: Browuk

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Registered: Nov-08
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Skater Bum

Could you send me a copy of Clifnet Wizard Installer ed please.

Thanks in advance

dave@browuk.plus.com
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Username: Browuk

Post Number: 2
Registered: Nov-08
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Skater Bum
Just wanted to say thanks for sending me clifnet wizard installer, much appreciated, thanks
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Username: Te17

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-08
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skater bum

could you please email me a copy of clifnet wizard installer ed please, and also the installation manual for the concept 650 mk2 as the link takes us to a login page ,

thanks in advance

r_redfern_86@hotmail.com
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Username: Duker996


UK

Post Number: 1
Registered: Dec-08
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Richard Redfern

I found when u copy n paste the link for the clifford concept 650 mk2 a space appears between the 6 and the 50 in ur address bar. If u delete the space so its 650 instead of 6 50 it shud work fine. And remeber to include "(UK).pdf " when copyin.
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Username: D1shabba

Birmingham
Uk

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Registered: Dec-08
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hi im new
just wondering if anybody can send me a copy of the cliffnet wizard version 2.2
my e-mail d1shaz@hotmail.co.uk
many thnaks
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Username: D1shabba

Birmingham
Uk

Post Number: 3
Registered: Dec-08
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thanks skater bum, but the software won't work on my pc says it has a problem is it because i am using vista
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Username: N25gabe

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Registered: Dec-08
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hi skater bum, i really hope you can help.
I am trying to install my clifford concept 600 (UK) in my new car (its been in the attic for about 3 years) Can you get hold of the installers manual, ive looked through and begun the install with the US version but there are some differences in wiring :-( if you have a link to the uk version i would be extremely grateful. The alrm also has the intelistart, which i am trying to install on a diesel, the actual alarm requires the tach wire to go to... as its a diesel do you know wether I can pick up a signal wire from the car or do i have to buy a tacho sense accessory?
Cheers
n25gabe}
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Username: N25gabe

Post Number: 2
Registered: Dec-08
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there are a lot of manuals available here, http://guardianalarms.net/home_security_manuals/Clifford-Electronics/
i also found http://www.directeddealers.com/manuals/ig/clifford/concept600hol_install.pdf if you compare page 5 on the us version and this one you can see some wires are similar others not, dutch/uk have two pins missing off the 12pin connector. Problem with dutch one... its in dutch! if anyone has an uk version i would really appreciate a copy/link
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 348
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M Cieloch,

The only installation guide that I can find on DEI's website is for the Concept 600 US version. They have the Owner's Manual for the 600UK but not the install.
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Username: N25gabe

Post Number: 3
Registered: Dec-08
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Thanks for looking skater bum, im getting there with the install, been going through stupid amounts of wiring diagrams over the last few days, and working between the us and dutch version the alarm is almost finished
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Username: Rossdagley

Welwyn Garden City, Hertfordshire
UK

Post Number: 3
Registered: Aug-08
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Skater bum

I've still not maganged to get hold of a copy of the pro installer for my concept 650, and I really need to change a few settings. Is there any chance you could help me locate a copy?

Thanks!

Ross
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 349
Registered: Mar-06
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Ross Dagley-Cleworth,

Send me your email address and I'll email you what I have. The only thing is that CliffNet Wizard Pro Version 2.20 only works with Win XP. There is no version that works with Vista yet and I don't know if DEI has any plans on making one either.
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Username: Spinner123

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jan-09
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Hi there can anyone email me the clifford concept 650mk2 installation guide and the cliffnet pro software to spinnnner123@googlemail.com
many thanks really appreciate this
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Username: Sparkzter

Post Number: 2
Registered: Dec-08
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Hi Skater Bum,

ive been trying to get in to my Consept 600 for the last few weeks...i bought the truck with no valet code..the current fob is working ok ..but i cant get in on the current versions of cliffnet or cliffnet pro to add an extra fob

ive been doing a lot of digging and im told that an older version of cliffnet will allow me to change the valet code?...the big problem is i cant find a copy!...can you help??
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 350
Registered: Mar-06
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garry anderson,

Send me your email address and I'll send you version 1.20. This is the one that I use because my system is a G4 and not a G5. G4 likes the older version of the software for some reason.
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Username: Sparkzter


UK

Post Number: 3
Registered: Dec-08
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Thanks Skater Bum,

your a ledgend...however i tried the file you emailed thru and i have the same problem... i just get as far as the 'must enter valet code' screen and can do nothing other than guess a number!...i was lead to believe the earlier software could get around this..but i just cant figure out how

thanks again,

Garry
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Username: N25gabe

Post Number: 4
Registered: Dec-08
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Hi Skater Bum,
Is it possible you could mail me the earlier version too? my c600 is g4 so hopefully will be a bit more reliable.
n25gabe@yahoo.co.uk
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 351
Registered: Mar-06
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garry anderson,

You may need an earlier version of the cable itself. I have one of the original cables and I have never been asked to enter a valet code. The ones that seem to be giving people problems are the cables with the jack on them. Mine doesn't have this jack.





M Cieloch,

Check your email.
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Username: Sparkzter


UK

Post Number: 4
Registered: Dec-08
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Hi Skater Bum,

AHA!...its the lead thats to blame!...that makes sence, your right mine is the one with the plug...im guessing obtaining the older lead type is gong to be next to impossable?...

then again i guess all i have to do is get the code changed using one of the older leads then i will be able to use my later lead as i will know the code...

you have been a great help Skater Bum,

Many thanks

Garry Anderson
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Username: L14m_np

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jan-09
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Hi Skater Bum. I am fitting a used Clifford Concept 650 G5 to my car and the siren will not sound or chirp (I have multi metred it and its getting power) I do not have the 5 button remote (I am getting one shortly), only the 4 button. Do you think the siren has been muted in the menu and is the only way to reactivate it with the 5 button fob or using Cliffnet Wiz?

I also have a couple more questions for you RE this alarm, as you seem to be the guy in the know! Let me know if it's OK to PM you or something please dude.

Thanks in advance, Liam
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 353
Registered: Mar-06
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Liam Waites,

Does the siren work when the alarm is triggered? If so, you might just have the chirps turned off in programming. If it does sound at all, then the siren may be defective. I would try installing a different siren to see if that is the problem.
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Username: Directjg

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jan-09
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Hey guys! Long time follower of this forum but just registered! I need a copy of Cliffnet Installer.. Can any of you help with this?

o2accord@aol.com

Thanks!
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Username: Tbadhesha

Post Number: 3
Registered: Mar-07
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Skater, do you have the Cliffnet 2.2 software and also where can I get the data cable?
Thanks in advance.

Tag
tbadhesha@yahoo.com
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 356
Registered: Mar-06
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Tag Badhesha,

I've got CliffNet Wizard 2.2 but if you buy the cable from www.clifford.com, it comes with the software.
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Username: Cliffy

London, UK
UK

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-09
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Hi can someone please send me the clifford pro installer software

Th downloads from cliffords site r not working for me

neil_warren9@hotmail.com

thanks
Neil
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Username: Cliffy

London, UK
UK

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Registered: Mar-09
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Also has anyone used the clifford software with vista and a serial to usb adapter??

Any tips on thi ould be helpful aswel

thanks again
Neil
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Username: Cliffy

London, UK
UK

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Registered: Mar-09
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thanks for the program, Skater

Neil
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Username: J4s0n

Post Number: 1
Registered: Mar-09
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hi
could anyone please send me the clifford pro installer software

and if anyone knows if i can work anything with vista as i cannot seem to connect it com ports are on 1 i get error and it says cannot load wizzard driver

jason@ukautosalvage.com
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Username: Skater_bum

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JASON HOWARD,

Check your email.
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Skater Bum
many thanks for your help
cheers
Jason
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Dover
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Skater bum, Hi I was using my cliffnet wizard on my concept 300 and looking at the settings when my pc crashed. I rebooted but now The 4 digit valet code is not correct and I can't get into the softwear, any ideas?
could I also have a copy of the pro installer please?
cheers Mike

mb.golfmad@virgin.net
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Username: Kreatura

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Hi ya'll,
I have just installed a Clifford Avantguard 5 on a 1999 Honda CRV. Can anyone tell me how to bypass the factory key transponder system in order to make the remote start(Intellistart) work?
Do I need an additional interface and if I do , which one??
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Username: Rossdagley

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Hi Rudy. If you're transponder is in the key, you may be able to take the key apart and remove it, then glue the transponder to the ignition barrel - thats how i got mine working :-) Simple and best of all, free.
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Hi Ross, I usually do that with other cars too, like VW or BMW. Those keys can easily be taken apart and then the transponder can be removed and glued. However, this Honda key needs to be cut open and I prefer to keep the key as it is. Furthermore, it looks like the factory transponder unit needs to get sort of a pulse before you start the engine, because even with the original key inserted the engine won't start with the remote... maybe I need to put the start pulse on a 5 sec. timer or something....
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Username: Skater_bum

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Rudy,

The module you need is a PKALL made by DEI.
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Hi Skater bum..... and will the xk05 do the trick too? ( because I just oredered that one from ebay....)
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Dover
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Hi Skater bum thanks for the softwear

cheers

mike
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Username: Jay7792

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Hi Skater bum, can you please email me a copy of the Clifford Concept 650 MK11 wiring diagram, I have tried all of the links above but all of them take me to the log in page.

My email address is:

jayjenkins7792@yahoo.co.uk

I would very much appreciate your help.

Jay
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Username: Marguerite


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hi can somebody email me a copy of the installation manual for clifford concept 650mk11 pleasE

margueritekehoe@eircom.net
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Wow that was quick
thanks Skater Bum
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Hi Skater, any chance of a copy of Cliffnet Wizard Pro 2.2 slarty755@msn.com
Many thanks :-)
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Username: Kreatura

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Hi, I just finished installing a Avantguard 5.1 and wanted to connect it to the Cliffnet Pro2.2 software..... however.... this system is not recognized by it...
Is there a new version of the Pro Wizard available (skater bum??)

Also I tried to programm a 5.1 remote to an Avantguard 5 module, but that won't work either. The system recognizes the first press of the button, but not the second. Does anyone know why DEI made these units different??
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Thanks Skater Bum
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hi skater bum can you email me a copy of the clifnet wizzard pro 2.2
thanks a lot
margueritekehoe@eircom.net
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rudy,

I just checked DEI's site and version 2.20 is still the current version.

As for the 5.1 remote on the 5, I don't think that it is backward compatible.
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MARGUERITE KEHOE,

Check your email.
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Hi Skater Bum,
I wonder why DEI has done that: NOT making the AG5 and AG5.1 remotes backwards compatible, because the G4 and G5 were backward compatible... and as far as I can see the AG5 central unit and the 5.1 unit are exactly the same....

eversince DEI took over Clifford the Clifford products lost some of their edge...

about the Wizard.... any idea if and when DEI will come up with an update which does feature the AG5.1?

Also, I have been reading about the release of a Avantguard 5.5X eversince 2005, but still I haven't seen it on the market. The dutch distributor even posted a complete PDF on their website about it. Do you know anything about this system? Is it a hoax, or is it really coming and when?
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hi Skater bum
is it posable to send me the instalion manual for the concept 300 (and 650 please as i have one to fit to a jeep cherokee please) as i have this on an mx5 and cannot output to door locking there is no pulse from the wires (think green/orange) have checked it in the wizzard and it is turned on i know i need a relay but i cannot find any output with a multimeter and ideas? any help gladly appreciated
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Username: Kreatura

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J4son , for the 650:
U'll need to check the H5 connector (3 pin connector ) with the green en blue wires

http://www.guardianalarms.net/home_security_manuals/Clifford-Electronics/Concept -650-Installation-Manual.pdf
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hi Rudy
thankyou for that however it is the concept 300 i am having the locking problems with the wires come directly from the brain but the 650 wiring is great i can start to fit that i just looked and found out it is the mk2 will the wiring be the same
regards
Jason
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Username: Kreatura

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Hi J4s0n, I only have the dutch version for the concept 300, but maybe combining the concept200 and 400 manuals will do the trick for ya
Concept 200 http://guardianalarms.net/home_security_manuals/Clifford-Electronics/concept200_ install.pdf

Concept 400 http://guardianalarms.net/home_security_manuals/Clifford-Electronics/concept400_ install.pdf
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Username: Skater_bum

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J4SON,

What's your email address? I'll email everything that I've got on the 300, 650 and 650 MKII.
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hi Skater Bum my email is jason@ukautosalvage.com any ideas on the concept 300 not giving a pulse on the door lock wires i have tried in the wizzard to turn on and off and made sure its pos pulse many thanks for your help
Jason
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Username: Kreatura

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The doorlock wires on the concept 300 are gray/orange and gray/green. Are u absolutley sure there is no pulse on these (positive or negative)??
If they are connected to anything now, try disconnecting and test for pulse again.... and make sure pin4 (20A) and pin 8 (5A) of the big connector have a good 12V input connection.
if that doesn't work, then 'm afraid an internal relay is busted...
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Skater Bum many thanks yet agin true star

Rudy
again another star they where disconected will check pin 4 and 8 but everything else works fine on alarm the car had no central locking which is why i tried to get a pulse but my feeling was something broken and you have pretty much confirmed this so i guess i am stuck using a key but thankyou for trying to help
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Username: Kreatura

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Hi Skater Bum,

do you have the wiring diagram for me for a 1998 Lexus GS300??

I will be installing a Avantguard5 in it

Thanks
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Username: Skater_bum

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rudy,

What's your email address? I'll send it directly from DEI's web site.
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Hi Skater bum, it's : masterkreator@hotmail.com

thanks in advance!
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Username: Marguerite


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hi skater bum ,thanks for wizard software, i want to install concept 650mk11 into a bmw (e36 model) 1998 m3,have you any info on wiring diagrams for this car and can you tell me what type trigger set up i would use for the door locks.thanks again.
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Username: Kreatura

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Hi Skater Bum, could you also be so kind to send me the wiring diagram for a 2006 BMW M3 (convertible) ?
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rudy,

You've got mail. Sorry, I didn't find anything for an M3.




MARGUERITE KEHOE,

Sorry, I couldn't find anything for an E36 model either.
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Username: Kreatura

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Hi Skater Bum, thanks!!

Strange that there is no BMW info....

Marguerite... : as I recall (I am not completely sure though, it has been a while for me), but if I'm not mistaken the trigger for the E36 doorlocks is positive. But u'll need to use a diode in between the open and close trigger (don't know which site goes where..) if you don't do that, the doors will close and open again after arming. I'll try to get the info a 100% sure for you, but maybe this will already help a bit....
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Username: Swanie

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hi i wondering is someone can help me out with a clifford 650 mk2 i some issuse with programing window closure unit i need to how to program it or does someone have the installers guide for it please
my e-mail us ronancarey@beaumont.ie
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Ronan, is it the window closure unit or the smartwindows unit you are having trouble with?
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Username: Swanie

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hi ruby the window closure unit the guy who fitted disconnected it cause it was draining the battery he said he put it on an another button on the remote but he didnt and he not taking my calls or texts so i really stuck at the min
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Thanks anyway SKATER BUM for trying,

Hi RUDY thanks for that ,knowing its positive helps a lot,
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Username: Jay7792

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Hi Skater Bum, do you by any chance have a wiring diagram for installing a concept 650 into a 1998 Ford Escort GTi
My email address is:

jayjenkins7792@yahoo.co.uk


Thanks very much in advance.

Jay
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Username: Kreatura

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Hi Ronan... is the window closure from DEI or clifford, thus an american brand or is it a European brand?
Could be that he used the minus output when armed, and depending on the module that would keep the module powered on, and thus draining the battery....
maybe putting the channel 3 or C on it and programming this channel to be automatically activated upon arming for a timed period will resolve this.

Then again, if it is a european closure model then the module is activated by a positive pulse ( in contrary to the American neg. pulse modules)... some installers, in this case use a relay to reverse polarity..... forgetting that that relay also draws extra power and thus draining your battery...

so u need to find out what brand the closure module is, and what kind of pulse it utilizes.... and then which output when armed it is receiving from the clifford concept 650
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Username: Skater_bum

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Jay Jenkins,

I've sent you three emails. One has the installation guide for the Concept 650. If you need the one for the 650 MKII let me know.

The other two emails were vehicle information for the 1998 Ford Escort. One is for the UK version and the second is for the USA version.
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Thanks very much Skater Bum, very much appreciated.

Am I likely to need to add relays to connect the lock/unlock wires to the cars central locking system (1998 Ford Escort GTi) and does anyone know if its negative or positive switching?

Jay
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Username: Marguerite


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hi i need some help here ,650mk2 into bmw e36 .On the primary harness the two white wires h1/1 and h/10 are conneted to indicator light flash output ,would this be wire at hazard button that pulses 0 to 12 volts on pushing this button and on pigtail harness should wire h4/4(+)12v input connect to wire showing 12v constant at hazard button.there are two other wires also on hazard button. Also on secondary harness any ideas where to connect h2/4 brake light output (this wire powers the brake light circuit from the 12v source on h2/8,) and h2/8 brake light +12v input (this is the polarity source for the brake light output and must be a 12volt constant.Are both on brake switch and if so does 12 volt constant mean when ignition is switched on or 12volt all the time .?? all help greatly appreciated.
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Username: Kreatura

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Marguerite
the indicator light should NOT be taken form the hazard switch. You can find the wires here:
1991 models: lightblue-green en lightblue-brown under the steeringwheelcolomn or behind left kickpanel
1996: blue-green and blue-brown in black connector behind left kickpanel

Just connect the brake light wires at the brake light switch. You should find one wire which has a constant 12v plus on it and the other which becomes 12v when the brake is pressed. (do your brakelights work with the ignition off? If they don't you'll need to switch the ignition on in order the get the appropriate 12v wire). I'm not completely sure, but in my knowledge it doesn't matter if the source wire is 12v constant or ignition, it just depends on how your vehicle is set up. Best way is to just get the wires at the brake pedal switch.

And just in case you need it : RPM signal is a black wire which can be found in a bundle of 16 wires underneath the dash, these wires go to the white plug going into the speedometer unit
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Hi Rudy thats done and working ,i have immobisied the ignition but cant find the starter wire(black yellow ?)after that its just door triggers (negative i think)locks are done and used diodes to double lock,also for taco i used a small black wire going to OBC module but havent tested rpm programming so may yet need to take out cluster.getting there and thanks for the info.
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Hi Marguerite, the starter wire should also just be located in the wireloom coming from the key switch.

I'm not sure, but I think BMW has positive door locks... but you should be able to verify this, by simply testing it.
If you ca''t find the rpm wire inside, it can also be found in the engine compartment, there should be a (about 2 inches in diameter) round diagnosis plug, I believe pin 1 is the rpm wire.
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To Skater Bum and Gary Anderson:
Hi guys, in your post tread from jan.11th. you were asking about the problem getting into your system with the cliffnet wizard.
The problem is NOT the cable with the RCA plug attached to it.
The problem is that your system ( Gary) is a UK version.
These are Thatcham approved, and before you are able to get into the software you MUST enter the valet code.
If you don't have this, then you will not be able to get into the system, not by the valet switch, nor by computer.

Reason for this is extra security, since Thatcham approved systems are used by insurance companies to accept policies and lower premiums.
So long story short: not a wire problem, but a standard European feature

maybe a little too late, but still this info can be used for similar cases in the future.....
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Username: Skater_bum

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Jay Jenkins,

Your doorlocks are negative triggered and the Concept 650 provides a negative pulse output so you should not have to add relays.




rudy,

Thanks for the information! I'll make a note of it.
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Username: Jay7792

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Thanks Skater Bum.

Hi everyone, what is the best way of finding out if your lights and stuff are negatively or positively switched? The reason I need to know is so that I know where to put the Input wire's, either to earth or +12v.

Jay
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To anyone that wants to install a clifford into a bmw e36 and need info on how i can help and mabye save them some time as i have finished install of 650mk11 into my 98 m3 . thanks Rudy and Skater bum for help along the way.
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Hi Skater Bum... question, the 2009 VW Scirocco uses a Can Bus systematic.
Are you familiar with this? Any idea on how to get a Avantguard in there?
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Username: Skater_bum

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rudy,

The car is too new. I don't have any wiring information on it yet.
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Skater Bum, thanks
do you have the wiring diagram for a 2004 Jeep cherokee (liberty)?
this is a 2.5 diesel version, but I don't think that will make much of a difference...any info you got is welcome
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Username: K16tomcat

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Hi,
Is anyone able to send me the installation instructions for a G5 Clifford Concept 650. I am unsure if it is a Mk I or Mk II?
I removed it from my car late last year to be fitted to my project car this year and now it is ready I have lost the notes I made for the designations of the wires.
Also, is there any information on the pins for the 8 black leads? I am led to believe that these cables are labelled on a new unit and that the labels removed during installation?

Cheers

Carl
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Username: Kreatura

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Hi Carl, sounds to me like you have a UK Thatcham approved version??
I have one like that laying around here. Let me check if I can get some info on the black wiring
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Hi Rudy, Thankyou for the quick reply!
I beleive it would be the UK Thatcham Approved version. I did have a Certificate for its original installation that I had to present to the insurance company.
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Username: Kreatura

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Hi Carl, you are from the UK? Then it will be the thatcham approved version.
I've just checked the black wires:
You need to open the main unit, there you'll see the black wires soldered onto the main print. These point are all conveniently numbered(1 through 8, however notice: not sequentially)
pin 1 and 2 are constant plus
pin 3 and 4 are ground

pin 5 and 6 are starter in and output.
I'm not sure which one is the input but I reckon it's pin5 .

Then you stil have pin 7 and 8, which should then be the ignition plus, I guess pin 7 will be the input.

Keep in mind though that I have just checked this by looking at the wireloom from the one I have right here, also taken out from a car. So though I'm pretty sure this is all correct I won't take responsability for it.

For the other connections you can check
www.guardianalarms.net/home_security_manuals/Clifford-Electronics/Concept -650-Installation-Manual.pdf
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Hi Rudy,
Thankyou again for your help with this, I have just downloaded the manual from the link you gave me, it looks very helpful.
I have also just opened the case to have a look inside and like you say the cables are numbered in a non-sequential order.

Looking through the wiring insructions for these two 4-pin plugs I have noticed that there are 4 cables that do the Ignition and Starter, and also like you say a pair of Live wires and a Pair of Earth's however, it seems that one pair is for the "Light Flash Input" which I assume would be for the Indicator flash while arming and disarming the alarm and another pair for the power to the Clifford Control Unit?
Is there any way to distinguish between these wires at all?

Cheers

Carl
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Username: Kreatura

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Hi Carl, glad I could help.
Simplest way is to just put a fuse holder between each lead, connect it and then take the fuse out of one of them.
If the alarm remains to work then the fuse you took out is for the parking light input.....
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Hi Rudy,

You mentioning the fuses made this much easier. I had left the fuse holders and fuses attached to the loom when I cut it from the old car. Using the different ratings and referring to the installation guide it was easy to identify all of the wires so I think I have it all sorted now.

Hopefully I'll get time over the next few days to have a go at getting this installed. I'll let you know how I get on.

Thanks again.

Carl
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Username: Kreatura

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Hi Skater Bum, it turned quiet upthere.... what happened?
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Username: Skater_bum

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rudy,

I've been gone for a few days. But it looks like carl was helping you out. Did you need something else?
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Username: Kreatura

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Hi Skater Bum, already thought you would be out.... hope for positive reasons...

I am looking for the wiring diagram of a 2004 Jeep Cherokee or Liberty. Are you able to get that info?
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Username: Redhotlama

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So i have the Clifford 50.5x in a car i just bought and it has the shock sensor.

I definately want to add the 507M tilt sensor.

And am thinking about the
Radar/proximity sensor 508D
Audio Sensor 506T
Battery Backup 520T
Extra Siren 513T

And maybe down the line the Window control 530T.

Anyone know where i can find the manuals for the
507M
508D
520T
513T

I already found them for the 530T and 506T.

Also any other suggestions for installs and parts needed? Extra relays or diodes?

If you have the emails, its ken.mott@gmail.com
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Username: Skater_bum

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rudy,

I sent one for the Jeep Grand Cherokee and one for the Liberty to your email address. I just realized that you mentioned Cherokee and not Grand Cherokee. I'll send that one as well. They only go up to 2001 on the Cherokee.





Ken Mott,

I found manuals for the 507M, 508D and 520T and emailed them to you. I didn't find one for the 513T, though.
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Skater Bum, thanks again...

in cases like this there is no such thing as too much info.....
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Hi everybody i want to add an onmisensor to my 650mk11 but the sensor plug wont fit the onmisensor port on the control unit as its way to big ,can i hardwire this to the loom that the glass tamper and tilt sensors use ?any ideas Rudy and Skater Bum...thanks guys
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 28
Registered: Jun-08
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Hi Margerite,
You can't hardwire it to the other loom, 'cause the omni sensor needs to be adjusted by the alarm brain. And the wire loom for the glass tamper unit don't have that possibility ( I believe.....)
I guess you have the G4 omni sensor which has a different connector from the G5 Omnisensor ( sensor is the same, just the connector is different)
Try gettin a G5 omnisensor, with the green connector at the end..this will just plug right into the 650 unit, and then you'll be able to programm sensitivity....
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 29
Registered: Jun-08
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Hi Marguerite...maybe you CAN hardwire it, but only by using the dedicated port.
The dedicated port on the G5 systems is the green 3 pin input connector right next to the white 4 pin connector( I believe that's the data port connector) .
If you hold the 650 towards you, with the inputconnectors facing you, then the antenna input connector is on the outer right side.... next to that ( going left) is the four pin connector and then 2nd is the 3 pin green connector.

The connections are : from left to right red, black, blue/white, white/blue being the data input cable. I believ on the G4 Omnisensor that would be orange.
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Username: Marguerite


Ireland

Post Number: 10
Registered: Apr-09
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Thanks Rudy i think it really needs one so i'm going to try it ,will let you know how it goes...
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Username: Redhotlama

Post Number: 2
Registered: May-09
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Don't know if this would be overkill, but i am also looking at adding an extra shock sensor to my clifford 50.5x at the rear of the vehicle. Since the one with the 50.5x only seems to detect things at the front.

Ideas?

I am looking at adding

Shock sensor 504D
2x Siren 513T
Audio 506T
Backup Battery 520T
Tilt Sensor 507M

And a Crime Guard AU94T motion sensor as that seems more recommends than the DEI proximity sensor
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Username: Damom

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jun-09
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Hi Skater Bum

Is there any chance you could email me a copy of the latest Cliffnet Installer Pro?

damian@churchillexpress.co.uk

Many thanks in advance.
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Username: Madmarkuk

Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-09
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Hi Skater Bum

I hope you can help, I have a Clifford G4 650 dual zone alarm installed on my Toyota MR2 Turbo Rev3 1995 car. It has worked fine for the past 3 years. The problem has happened since the battery ran flat on my car.
After I charged the battery the chirp on lock and unlock has stoped working???.
the siren still works and I have also got 4 chirps if I leave the door open. I read the user manual and even tried the user manual program guide thinking it may just have reset it self. following the instructions I entered my pin and followed fully till I had to program mode and held the star button on the dash till I am supposed to hear a chirp the the led light should come on. Well the led came on but no chirp, I continued the process and tried the lock/unlock button once , twice the 3 times only on the 3rd push of the lock/unlockon the did the siren chirp 3 times. I turned off egnition and the car chirped another 3 times but still does not chip on unlock / lock.

Can you shed some light on this subject please.

Sorry its so long but wanted you to know the full story.

Contact email is

mad-mark-uk@hotmail.co.uk

Thanks
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 30
Registered: Jun-08
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Hi Mark, I have encoutered that problem quite a few times now..... the siren needs to be changed...

maybe skater bum has another solution, but that's what I had to do.... seems to be some fabrication fault in some units that will occur in situations like this
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Username: Madmarkuk

Post Number: 2
Registered: Jul-09
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Thanks Rudy

Is this a job I can do myself or do I have to get the alarm fitter to do it for me, strange it still chirps with open door and alarm activation though???

Also where can I just buy the siren if i can do it myself and how much do they normally cost.

Cheers
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 31
Registered: Jun-08
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Hey MArk,

Í don't know if you had the alarm installed by an official Clifford dealer?
In any case I would go back or go see any authorized Clifford dealer first.
They should exchange this unit under warranty, as Clifford claims to have lifetime warranty on their products.

If you can't get them to do that than you should be able to exchange it yourself.
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 388
Registered: Mar-06
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Mark Richards,

So, everything works fine with the alarm system except the arm and disarm chirps don't chirp, right? Am I understanding this correctly?
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Username: Madmarkuk

Post Number: 3
Registered: Jul-09
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That is correct Skater Bum

The alarm is 3 years old now and the alarm shop who are official clifford dealer will not do anything unless i pay.

Yes every think still works i a door is open after arming i get 4 chirps when alarm goes off normal siren and after alarm activation i get 4 chirps to warn me the alarm has been activated, just no chirps on arm and disarm, even if i go into manual program type my pin numbrer and follow steps to program all i get after pushing the star button on the valet switch it the clifford light come and stay on but no chirp??.

Its a G5 650 dual zone and not a G4 as stated earlier.
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 32
Registered: Jun-08
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hey Mark,

It really is similar to the problems I have encountered, exactly the same... the installershop overhere however did exchange it under warranty... but not the labour, which is reasonable. The shop overthere should be familiar with this problem and in my opinion should exchange the siren under warranty. I am 100% sure that when you put another(new)siren on your system it works fine instantly....
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Username: Rossdagley

Welwyn Garden City, Hertfordshire
UK

Post Number: 5
Registered: Aug-08
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The battery in your alarm siren has died. Replacing it (the siren) is simple, and should be covered by your lifetime warranty (presuming your the owner of the clifford system from when it was installed into this vehicle).

Expect to pay labour, but not for the replacement part. If it's really hassle, I'd do it myself (here in the UK, directed conveniently went bust a while back, so all alarm systems that HAD a lifetime warranty now dont ...) - I replaced mine about 3 months ago because of this exact problem.

Alternatively, if you're a little confident with a screwdriver, just change the batteries in the sirenanother simple job. Obviously if your alarm IS still in warranty, replacing the siren or batteries yourself may invalidate that warranty.

Wish you luck :-)
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 389
Registered: Mar-06
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Mark Richards,

It sounds to me like the chirps have been muted in programming. If the siren acts normally with everything else, I would check the programming. Your Owner's Manual should be able to walk you through how to program the chirps back on. If you don't have it, let me know.
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 33
Registered: Jun-08
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Hi Skater Bum, you would think that it would be the programming, but it's like Ross says.... I have encountered this problem numerous times with the G4 back up sirens. But I never occured to me that the problem may be caused after the car's battery went dead.... coming to think of it I think that all the faulty sirens I did get back, indeed the car's battery was dead and the owner had tried to start the car, and then started it using jumper cables...
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 34
Registered: Jun-08
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... my guess is that somehow the back up siren's inner battery gets fried in this process... (though I haven't tried replacing the inner battery yet as Ross suggest, but it seems plausible). I think I still may have one faulty siren with that same problem laying around. I will check and see if replacing the battery does the trick. If that works than that could mean that you'll need to disconnect a back siren before jumpstarting a car....
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Username: Kreatura

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...on the other hand I have jumpstarted many Clifford installed cars without any problem....

so ... I'm still not sure what causes the actual problem.... but I do know that the problem exists and that it's not something reprogrammable.
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Username: Madmarkuk

LONDON
UK

Post Number: 4
Registered: Jul-09
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I found out I have a g5 650 mk1 dual zone alarm and not a G4 650 like I stated earlier DOH!!!. I did not think it came with a battery back up siren I belive that was an optional extra, if it is just the barrery in the siren can I change this myself and where in the UK can I buy one of these batterys????
If not where in the UK can I buy a new siren and how much do they cost.

Thanks for all your help guys.

Also while we r on this subject can I purchase a Dual zone shock sensor and fit it myself is it just a case of plug it in and go or would this require an installer.
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Username: Rossdagley

Welwyn Garden City, Hertfordshire
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Post Number: 6
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You can get a new replacement siren for about 50 quid delivered, or you can change the battery in yours. I've actually got a spare battery and can give you detailed fitting instructions for 20 quid Inc shipping if you fancy. Let me know :-) Ross.
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Username: Madmarkuk

LONDON
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Post Number: 5
Registered: Jul-09
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Thanks Ross but i have just bought a battery off flea bay for 17.00 just before you replied hope its easy to fit fingers crossed. Thanks for the offer m8.
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Username: Swanie

Dublin
Ireland

Post Number: 3
Registered: Apr-09
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HI guys i was wondering if you can help i have a clifford 650 mk 2 nearly evertime i set the alarm it bleeps once and then goes off walking half the neighbours i thought it might of been the intieor light but i have that turned off so that only comes on when i want it to.Any ideals, or do i need to ge the cliffnet pro to work it and if so where can i get it and what do i need to work and any soultions also can you make it the simplist explanist please thanking you advance }
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Username: Swanie

Dublin
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HI guys i was wondering if you can help i have a clifford 650 mk 2 nearly evertime i set the alarm it bleeps once and then goes off walking half the neighbours i thought it might of been the intieor light but i have that turned off so that only comes on when i want it to.Any ideals, or do i need to ge the cliffnet pro to work it and if so where can i get it and what do i need to work and any soultions also can you make it the simplist explanist please thanking you advance }
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 36
Registered: Jun-08
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Ronan,

what car is it installed in ?
And how many times does the LED flash after you turned off the alarm and set the ignition to ON?

You might want to try setting the interior light to the door position. Turning it off completely can produce an error in some installations
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 37
Registered: Jun-08
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O and Ronan, question, do the lights also flash when it goes off?
If they don't then it could also be a faulty siren.... I also encountered this problem in the past... but at this time I can't seem to remember exactly what caused it....

try to find out if the parkinglights also flash
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Username: Redhotlama

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Registered: May-09
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My lights flash and horn honks when i lock/unlock. Any easy way to disable that?

Also is there easy way to reset valet program button? I bought car used and don't know the code.
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 38
Registered: Jun-08
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Ken,

no easy way... wires would need to be cut...
it would help if you'd tell us what system you have.
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Username: Rossdagley

Welwyn Garden City, Hertfordshire
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Registered: Aug-08
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if you can get access to the main alarm module, unscrew it from whereever it's located, and the middle four digits of its serial number are its default valet code (presuming a previous owner didn't change it).
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Username: Swanie

Dublin
Ireland

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Registered: Apr-09
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celica vvtli its when i get out of the car ruby then it goes off i cant get the installer to come back out and he does not work for clifford unfortunally
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Username: Arrows

Post Number: 4
Registered: Aug-09
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Can someone please e-mail me the pro installer software, thank you.

johnkellyryan@ntlworld.com
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Username: Lesiah09

London
United kingdom

Post Number: 1
Registered: Aug-09
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can someone HELP please.......

i have clifford 600 installed and it works ok, however i cant connect to the wizard on my vista pc to change the settings? is there an updated software that works on vista?

anyone with software email it to me , thank you.
lesiah@hotmail.com
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Username: Kells77

Leeds
UK

Post Number: 2
Registered: Aug-09
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Hi

I asked this question in the main forum but hope to get a response in here

iv got a unused new arrow 3 on its way to me with the piezo sensor and a proximity sensor 3, i wanna junk the proximity sensor 3 for a proximity sensor 4 i have spare from a spare concept 600 i have (lost valet code and no loom so cant use it)

i also wanna fit the tilt motion sensor and glass tamper sensor to the arrow 3 (not too bothered if i have to loose the piezo sensor)

Is this possibe?? or can i hardwire them in if need be, the most important ones i want above everything is the proxitity sensor 4 and tilt motion sensor as i have some very valuble rims on my car

also whats the difference between a proximity sensor 3 and 4??

thanks
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Username: Kells77

Leeds
UK

Post Number: 3
Registered: Aug-09
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forgot to add my email if needed kells.joy@hotmail.co.uk

also interested in the pro wizard software if anyone has it

thanks
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Username: Aidycox

Post Number: 1
Registered: Aug-09
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hi all, i have a concept 300 on my bmw e34 535. concept 400 on my vauxhall astra van and a intelleguard 750 on my bmw e30 convertable. all is working great and fitted by myself as im an autoelectrical engineer. the company i work for does not deal with clifford although i have been trying to get them to. what im after if anyone would be so kind to email me is the wizard pro version software so i can set the outputs and rpm for intellestart. many thanks Adrian (Bristol) aidycox@googlemail.com
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 390
Registered: Mar-06
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adrian cox,

You've got mail.
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Username: Darknight7777777


Uk

Post Number: 9
Registered: Sep-07
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Hey skater bum need your help again, could you send me a copy of wizard software to

darknight7777777@yahoo.co.uk

thanks
ash
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Username: Kreatura

Post Number: 39
Registered: Jun-08
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Skater Bum,

can you send me Directed Electronics tecdoc 1070 ( doorlock section, for installing a clifford on a 1998 Lexus GS300)
The wiring diagram states positive doorlocks, but when I put the clifford on it it blows the fuse on the clifford.... the wiring diagram states I should see tecdoc 1070

thanks in advance!
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Username: Cossiedoc

Post Number: 7
Registered: Apr-06
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Hi i need 650 mkII install manual if someone has it please
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Username: Petet

Post Number: 1
Registered: Oct-09
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Hi Skater Bum

Is there any chance you could email me a copy of the latest Cliffnet Installer Pro?

pete131078@gmail.com

Thank you
Pete
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Username: Andymdj

Post Number: 3
Registered: Oct-09
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Hi Skater Bum

Could i ask if you would mind sending me a copy of the Clifford Pro Installer Application please.
I'll PM my email address.

Many thanks in advance Andy.
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Username: Andymdj

Post Number: 4
Registered: Oct-09
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Skater Bum

Many thanks your a star!

Is there any way to get the software working on vista ?
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Username: Festa7479

Rotherham, South Yorkshire
United Kingdom

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-09
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Now then Skater Bum.....

Im having a slight issue with my Clifford Concept 650 G5 Mk1.

I had an alarm installer try and fit the Intellistart to my R33 Skyline, but he couldnt get it to work so he removed it and put it back to how it was.

But now the alarm chirps when you arm and disarm it, but if the alarm is triggered the indicators flash and the car immobilises but the siren does not sound!

Any ideas what this could be please mate?

Cheers,
Gareth.
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Username: Skater_bum

Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA

Post Number: 391
Registered: Mar-06
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Gareth Fletcher,

That's a new one. It sounds like the siren is hooked up to something that kicks out when the system is triggered. Do you have a remote wireless immobilizer installed? If so, could the siren be hooked to it?
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Username: Snypa1949

Post Number: 1
Registered: Nov-09
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HI skater bum

I've just installed a Clifford ig950 in my Honda hrv which came out of my other car just wondering if you have a wire diagram for that model yet? Also when I trigger the intellistart the module just clicks twice!!

Could also mail me a copt of the cliffnet wizard pro please

email: snypa1@gmail.com

would be greatful for any input from any1 else aswell
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