How to Eliminate Hum or Buzz
by Alan Lofft, (bio), Axiom Audio The Ground Rules Of all the annoyances that can afflict any audio/video home theater or even a simple stereo installation, the notorious "ground loop" may well be the most difficult and persistent one to track down and eliminate. A "ground loop" is caused by the difference in electrical potential at different grounding points in an audio/video system. (All the grounds in an A/V system should ideally be at "0" potential.) A ground loop typically adds a loud low-frequency hum or buzz as soon as you plug in any of various audio or video components, including subwoofers, cable-TV outboard boxes, satellite-TV feeds, TV displays, amplifiers, A/V receivers or turntables. The buzz/hum is a byproduct of the multiple power supply cables and a ground voltage differential within your system and its network of interconnecting cables. Here are some methods to help you get rid of ground loops. Try these first and don't waste money on a power "conditioner" which, in most cases, won't help. (There is no need to "condition" the AC power for your system. Your receiver or amplifier already has a power supply with its own filters and transformers. No further filtering is normally required.)- If you get your system up and running and hear an audible buzz or hum, the first culprit to look at is either the powered subwoofer or your cable-TV or satellite-box feed at the entry point to your system.
- First, the subwoofer: unplug the coaxial cable that connects to your powered subwoofer to see if the ground-loop hum disappears. If it does, it's likely coming in through your cable/satellite TV feed.
- Reconnect your subwoofer's coaxial cable from the subwoofer input to your receiver's subwoofer output and disconnect the cable-TV feed (or satellite feed) from your outboard set-top cable box or satellite tuner. Be sure and disconnect the cable before any splitters. Now see if the hum/buzz from your subwoofer stops.
If that eliminates the hum, you can install one of these inexpensive in-line ground isolators from Parts Express or Bass Home. Note that these transformer-based ground isolators will work fine with analog cable-TV feeds, but depending on their design they may interfere with or block reception of HDTV signals via a digital cable or satellite dish feed. Install the ground isolator between the cable-TV feed and the input of your outboard cable-TV box or satellite tuner (or the TV display's antenna or cable input if you have a set with a built-in TV tuner or a cable-card ready set). In many cases, the ground isolator will "break" the loop and remove the annoying hum or buzz by isolating the TV-cable ground. If a hum remains with the TV cable completely disconnected from your system, or you don't want to risk degrading reception of HD signals from a cable or satellite system, then you may have to add a ground isolator like this Radio Shack Model 270-054 between the line-level coaxial subwoofer cable from your A/V receiver and the line-level input jack on your powered subwoofer. In all cases, if your subwoofer has a ground-lift screw like some of Axiom's subwoofers, try first removing the screw (or replacing it) to see if it increases or eliminates the hum. It may or may not make a difference. If you do not have easy access to the aforementioned ground isolators, here are a few more tips:- Try plugging the subwoofer into a different AC outlet in the room, one that isn't supplying power to your components (A/V receiver, TV, cable box, etc.). That might fix it.
- Try reversing the AC plug for your A/V receiver or the powered subwoofer. If it's a 3-wire plug or a polarized plug, which has one prong wider than the other, you won't be able to reverse the plug. For safety, do not use a "cheater plug" to bypass the 3-wire plug.
- With the power OFF, reverse the AC plugs one by one of any other components that have a standard 2-prong AC plug that isn't polarized. Each time you reverse a plug, turn on the system with the attached component and your subwoofer and see if the hum disappears. In some cases, reversing one or more plugs will eliminate the hum.
If you have a turntable, try connecting a separate ground wire to a chassis screw on your preamp or receiver and see if the hum disappears. If you already have a turntable ground wire, try removing it from the preamp. One or the other may eliminate the hum. Finally, here is another solution that worked well for a member of our message boards who decided to discard his ground-loop isolator on his subwoofer: "I took off the ground-loop isolator I'd been using and connected a plain 14-gauge wire to chassis screws on the sub and the receiver then powered everything on. Although hum was still there, it was far lower than before. Next I unscrewed the ground-loop screw on the back of the sub and that took care of the hum completely."
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New member Username: Derekl00
Boston,
MA
USA
Post Number: 1 Registered: Dec-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 12:26 pm: |
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I've got a somewhat different problem. I occassionally get little burps or growls (more or less just random low frequency noise) out of my subwoofer. After careful observation I've noticed that it only occurs when my furnace is on and running hard. Any suggestsion for how to eliminate this other than turning off the heat and possibly freezing to death? |
   
New member Username: All_wired_up
Post Number: 2 Registered: Dec-05
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| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 02:10 pm: |
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Move your Sub to a different power outlet. |
   
New member Username: Rohit1712
Hyderabad,
AP
India
Post Number: 1 Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 02:58 am: |
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I am using a Denon DVD Player 2910, Jamo SUB, Rotel Processor 1068, sony projection tv. I keep getting frequent shocks when I touch the surface of either the DVD Player or the Rotel Processor, Sometimes their severity is high and sometimes mild to "Not present". Another problem that is noticable is that my Rotel 1068 processor's On screen Display(OSD) when output to the sony projection tv vibrates severely.Recently my rotels power board blacked out. After getting it repaired I am very concerned what could have caused it ( I am using a cheap AVR). What could I do to remove the vibrations in the OSD of my rotel processor? What about the shocks could there be any ground loop problem in my setup? |
   
New member Username: Chard
Post Number: 1 Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 04:13 pm: |
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Hi, I need some help with a very audible hum from my studio monitor speakers...here are the details: I just moved into a 50 year old house with a few ungrounded circuits. Of course, the one I use for my Computer/audio server system is one of these ungrounded circuits. I have everything plugged into a Belkin 1500 UPS, and I have jumped the neutral to ground on the receptacle. Everything works fine except that I am getting a very audible hum from my powered studio monitor speakers (Event 20/20p). They are connected to the computer via the line out/headphone 1/8 inch jack on my Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum EX card. The hum gets noticably louder when the computer boots up, but its always there to some extent....I am really frustrated at this point, and need some advice on how to attack this problem... Thanks in advance |
   
New member Username: Cesto
Brunswick,
ME
United States
Post Number: 1 Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 03:08 pm: |
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David N Heffner, Have you found a solution? i have the same problem but only i have a pair of KRK RP8 moitors, and the hum is quite disturbing. It sounds like i can hear the computer processing, cause when i move my mouse and when ever i open a program or am just idleing i her a stiff buzzing, not that loud but definitly noticable. ECOUSTICS HELPPPPP!!!! |
   
New member Username: Chard
Post Number: 5 Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 11:57 pm: |
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Shawn, I did indeed find a solution. I bought a Ground Loop Isolator ($20.00 at Best Buy -- go to the car audio department) and plugged it inline between the computer and the speakers. This solved the problem 95% of the way. I am not familiar with your speakers...but mine are studio monitors which are not necessarily intended to be used in such close proximity to a CPU. That's why I always get a tiny bit of hum. The GLI returned my system to this state...so it should probably return yours to your normal state (assuming all other variables remain the same!). Any other questions, let me know...hope it works for you. |
   
New member Username: Fran
Post Number: 1 Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 08:51 am: |
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Turntable Cartridge Strangeness... Dear eCoustics Experts, Can you solve my unusual turntable hum problem? I use a Pioneer PL-512 stereo turntable with a Pioneer M75ED Type 2 cartridge. The turntable has no hum because (so far as I know) it is correctly earthed to its accompanying amp. However... as soon as I put the cartridge down on a turning LP, a deep hum starts through my speakers, as the music plays. The hum is dependent on the cartridge being down on the record's surface. So far as I know, the cartridge is correctly wired. What should I do? With many thanks for any advice which you might be able to offer. Francois. |
   
New member Username: Mgmead
Post Number: 1 Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 01:51 am: |
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I have a bit of a different problem -- it's possibly related. I'm in a "mixed ground" house (part is grounded, part is not, part is as old as knob and tube!). I've plugged some things into the house -- lights, TV, computer laptops, a printer, a few nightlights. What I'm getting isn't a straight out hum ... it's a barely audible (to me and the dogs in the neighborhood probably) HIGH pitched whistle. Ever heard of something like this? It's making me a little special in the head and I'm just afraid to bring my system over to the new house because I fear it could make it worse. |
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New member Username: Wildthings
Post Number: 1 Registered: May-06
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| Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 08:45 pm: |
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I have the humm with my surround sound amp playing sound from my media computer. Not the TV or radio. I unplug the cable TV connection and the humm goes away. To elimate the humm I connected a single wire from the CATV connector to the ground prong of the electric outlet. This seems to work fine and I can't think of any issues. Anybody else know why I shouldn't do this? |
   
New member Username: Blamont
Los Angeles,
CA
United States
Post Number: 1 Registered: Apr-07
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| Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2007 - 11:08 am: |
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I seem to be picking up an annoying amount of hum through my cartridge (I'm pretty sure its the cartridge). It is very low level but clearly increases as the tonearm is moved closer to the turntable motor. So this is a radiated hum pick-up problem and not a ground-loop issue. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to eliminate this type of problem? |
   
New member Username: Constrak
Post Number: 1 Registered: Mar-08
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| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2008 - 02:02 am: |
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I am not sure if I am having the same problem but I can actually receive radio channel solely on the Altec Lansing VS4121 speakers. Is anyone facing the same problem here? |
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