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| Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 04:52 pm: |
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I just purchased a Home Theater system from my friend but can't seem to find information on the internet on the brand or unit. The unit is an EPIPHANY SOLO LIMITED. The box also has Holographic Imaging System. Has anyone heard of this brand? If so can you please let me know where I can get additional info. Thanks in Advance. |
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robert j thompson |
| Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 11:12 pm: |
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That is exactly what I was going to ask. I bought some epiphany speakers and wanted some info on them. Let me know what you find out. |
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| Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 11:05 am: |
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Ok same here I got the Epiphany solo limited unit and can't find info on it? need help? |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Sunday, September 15, 2002 - 11:46 pm: |
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Alot of help guys , thanks. |
Dan |
| Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2002 - 09:56 am: |
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Same here, this was the only hit on my search...too bad. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, November 15, 2002 - 06:21 pm: |
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ask the store where you purchased your system. May be they can help. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Saturday, November 16, 2002 - 12:10 am: |
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This could be useful.
http://www.stereo411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=857 |
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| Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 01:23 pm: |
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I bought a set of Epiphany 1200 series floor speakers
and I have not been able to find any info on them especially the hook-up. They are listed for warranty in Hollywood Ca. on Hollywood Bvld. but directory assistance has no listing??????? The rear of the speakers have four hook-ups black and red on top and another set of black and red on the bottom connected with a brass fitting that connects black with black and red with red and are removable one speaker works fine but I can't get sound from other.....any suggestions??????? |
Edwin Garcia |
| Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 01:47 pm: |
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After countless hours of research all over the internet, I couldn't find
any information on that brand. I'm not sure if it ever went out of
business but I had no luck. I bought the SOLO Limited from these 2 guys in
a van that were in a Home Depot parking lot in NJ. I paid $300. In the instructions, there are no customer numbers listed. I first connected it to my new Toshiba 50H71 projection TV and picture quality was not good even though I was using all Monster 3 cables. Also unit does not have a Component output which I prefer. Anyhow I'm currently using it with my 12year old Sharp 25 inch and it does not look that bad.
Sound on unit is not bad at all but Unit also gets pretty hot while in use since it has the built in amp. PLEASE DO NOT SPEND MORE THAN $200 - $300 FOR THIS UNIT. FOR OVER $400 YOU CAN GET A KNOWN BRAND LIKE KENWOOD OR SONY OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT WILL COME WITH WARRANTY AND PEACE OF MIND. ONCE YOU BUY FROM THESE PEOPLE, YOU'LL NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN. My advice is if you bought one just like me good luck, if not, do not bother to spend your money. Buy something else if anything. Hope this helps.
Bought a real unit this time. Got the Onkyo HTS650 which I'm waiting to connect. Selling my Epiphany system if anyone is interested. |
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| Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 10:04 pm: |
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Just bought one out of a van at my local gas station.....$360.00!!!!! Freackin does not work!!! I'm going to get a copy of the video gas station and get their license plate number and bust these sobs's!!!!!! Im pissed...did anybody do anything and report these guys? they had bs id tags around their necks!!!!! im really ticked cause i dont have this kind of $$$ plus i dont like being f'ed with!!!! they are going to pay for this!!! they tod me they were on there way to Danbury, CT!!! |
eCoustics |
| Posted on Friday, December 13, 2002 - 01:11 pm: |
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This could be another case of the White Van Scam.
Read this report about the scam.
http://www.scamshield.com/Feature.asp?id=1 |
Gary |
| Posted on Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 02:45 pm: |
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I bought a set of Epiphany speakers and a Epiphany solo home theater system from two guys in the Home Depot parking lot in Aurora Il. One was a stocky Hispanic guy and the other was a smaller caucasion guy with an earring and a bandanah.They were driving a white Chevy van and had ID's that looked legit.I believe the big guys name was Efrain Roman from a Florida licsense.I paid $360 for the sound system & $250 for the speakers.They are still in the boxes. Looks like I'll be trying to sell them cheap. |
Gary |
| Posted on Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 05:19 pm: |
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Here's some good news. tracked down the distibutor in our area.Sound Vision @414 N. Eisenhower Ln. Lombard Il. Caught the owner there last night. Told him I wanted a refund. He told me I would have to get it from the salesmen (The two guys in the white van). He was good enough to get them on the phone & let me talk to them. I met with them today and got a refund.I checked with the local authorities & unless this stuff is stolen (which I don't think it is), there's not too much you can do about it. These guys didn't give me any hassle about the refund. He stated they are just business men not crooks. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 02:55 pm: |
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I just have to laugh really hard about this after finding this web site. We just got scammed as well in Tyson's Corner, Virginia. We should have known better because we told the 2 guys that we have never heard of the brand and started to drive a way. One of the kids, ran after our car and convinced us to buy them. Now we are stuck with the cheesy system. The speakers are horrible to listen to. My alarm clock sounds better than this. My husband now wants to go find these 2 kids now, but its not even worth wasting the time. Since they said it wasn't stolen, its really our fault. I kepted telling my husband, " I think we have have been X'd ". Just like the Jamie Kennedy Show. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 06:11 pm: |
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Epiphany speaker information can be found on WebFerret. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 06:13 pm: |
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Remember the old saying "If it's too good to be true somethings amiss"
Only buy from an authorized dealer or your factory warranty will not be any good. Go to www.vanns.com for the best deal. Free shipping and no sales tax. |
Killer K |
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 11:22 am: |
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I got scammed two at home depot parking lot in atlanta, georgia. But im going to get my money back, i garuntee it! They were in a white van too, but they had 2 vans. Let me catch them slippin, i will get payback for every one! |
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| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:38 am: |
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Thanks to Gary for your message...I also bought the same system as you did from a couple of guys in a van. This happened in Orland Park, Illinois. Two questions. Did you try out the system before you took it back? And, second, they really gave you back your money? I'm thinking about calling up the store like you did.
Thanks |
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| Posted on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 03:24 pm: |
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GUESS WHAT GUYS, MY HUSBAND JUST BOUGHT THE EPIPHANY HOLOGRAPHIC IMAGING SYSTEM FROM A GUY IN A VAN IN MARYLAND YESTERDAY. READY FOR THIS? $500.00 HE DID GET THE LICENSE NUMBER AND TOLD THE GUY IF IT WAS A SCAM, HE WOULD KICK HIS BUTT. GUESS HE WILL BE KICKING SOME BUTT. |
jason edward |
| Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 02:42 pm: |
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Two guys just tried to sell me a $12,000 system for $800. White chevy van the whole works. Said thier boss just loaded 1 system too many and they wanted to dump the system for some pocket change. Thank God I got squirmy. they got mad and left. They wanted to do a quick deal and leave. I looked it up on the internet while they waited and found ya'll. Thanks!!!! The police are looking for them now.!!! |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 11:42 am: |
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wow i bought a epiphany like 6 months ago paid $400 truly thought i was getting a deal but thank god it works fine for now ............these guys truly get around i see caught me in queens nyc . |
PIETASTER |
| Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 10:11 am: |
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What the hell do you people expect from buying something from two guys in a van? Did you guys really think this system would work when you got it home? If it didn't, did you really think you would get it fixed or a refund? If so, I have some property in Florida I'm trying to sell. Call me at 1-800-SUC-KERS. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 04:09 pm: |
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gary is full of it. i went there and its a construction company. he's probably one of those $#@& in the white van. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 04:18 pm: |
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gary how did you find them? |
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| Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 03:10 pm: |
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Guys I just bought the Epiphany Bantum Towers from the guys in the white van LOL. I gotta tell ya they are UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! They absolutely blow away my Bose501 speakers away. I mean it aint even close. I paid $300 to the guys and you couldnt touch similar quality in a audio store for under $750+ ONE HAPPY CAMPER |
one happy camper |
| Posted on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 03:34 pm: |
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gary was close, i found the address on scamshield.com. its 144N Eisenhauer Pkwy, Lombard IL. the guy's name is chris. i gave him a line of BS and returned the system. he asked me what i paid, who i bought it from and when i got it, that's it. then he gave me a check for a bank around the corner and i cashed it. now i don't feel like such an idiot. never again! the next time i get solicited again, i'm going to see what they are selling and call the cops and tell them i saw them stealing it form a loading dock somewhere. Good luck. |
C. Howitt Fitz |
| Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2003 - 10:26 pm: |
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I got duped in the parking lot of Elliots Hardware in Grapevine, Texas. I bought the C4 Tower Epiphany Speakers for $ 200. Thought I could add these to my B & W speakers for 7.1 surround system. They sound OK, but look like crap. They are probably worth $ 50. I called the police and gave them their license tag. Nothing more to do. I did call th eguy and request a refund, I'll keep ya posted. This is the first time I got scammed and I feel like an idiot. It was a good scam and I fell for it. |
young but not so stupid |
| Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 02:14 am: |
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This is all interesting because I recall an incident about 12 years ago while I was on the road, a white van (it's amazing that it always appears to be a white van), pulled up next to me at a stop light and the two slick guys in their early 20s told me they were selling speakers and asked me to pull over and check them out.
So we pulled over (I was young and stupid). They opened the sliding side door and inside were stacked boxes. They gave me some story about the company they work for being overstocked and their manager wanted them to do whatever they could to sell what they can.
They opened a box to show me the speakers; very cheezy looking. I don't recall the brand or how much they were asking for, but in the end I told them I wasn't interested. I told them I didn't have any money, and they offered to come with me to an ATM to withdraw some cash. (I wasn't that young and stupid) Needless to say, I didn't go for it, but they were persistent and even suggested trading the gold necklace and sunglasses that I had on for the speakers. Amazing. It seems to be a nationwide phenomenon, as this encounter happened in California. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 01:07 pm: |
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You guys shouldnt feel so bad, My buddy just spent $4000 on two complete systems and some PA monitors. Though when he sorted it all out it's all missmatched brands and colors. He is from NW Indiana and the white van was from Illinois, they even said the west suburbs too so Lombard must be where they same from. Sucks for him, hopefully he can get his money back like the few others in lombard. So thanks all, for the research and info on these f*#$ers...... |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 06:38 pm: |
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I was sitting at home when my father called me to tell me that some guys were offering to sell him some Epiphany C-4 towers and two other speakers for a couple of hundred bucks. The sales guy had given them some pitch about how they had an order that was canceled, but the speakers had already been purchased, so the boss was just giving them all the speakers as a bonus since they only make 9 bucks an hour. The guy told my father to have me check the website for the speakers (epiphanyaudio.biz) , so I did and found that they were selling online for around $1,400 a speaker. I was amazed and told him he getting a good deal, but I told him to call me back in five minutes so I could do some research on them, to see if any known retailers sell them. Well after one search on google, I found this website and flipped, I immediately called my father back and told him not to buy them, that it was a scam. I also asked if they were in a white van in a parking lot...bingo. The moment my father said that he wasn't interested, and that he had heard that there was a scam, the guys jumped in their car and pealed out. We got the license plate number and reported it to the police. Hopefully some justice will be served to these men. This all happened outside BestBuy in Springfield, VA. |
asa009 |
| Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 11:50 pm: |
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Guys, I am totally puzzled by the story about this Epiphany brand. Like most of you I have never heard about this brand until a couple of days ago. My buddy at work told me he got a pair of speakers and wanted to audition them. Someone did tell him about this spam I guess. So, he brought a couple of Epiphany Bantam Towers (surround speakers) I connected them as front speakers to my Denon 3803 (the rest were Klipsch speakers). I have to say they sounded quite good. Lacking some bass, but highs and mids were very solid. Also, they appear to have a very solid build quality, very nice looking furniture-class finish, quite heavy for surrounds. I even advised the guy to go and find a matching pair of front speakers. What puzzles me is that if those guys are crooks and spammers how do they get hold of the quality speakers? On the other hand, the company that makes the speakers for some reason prefers to deal with this questionable distribution system, while they could be quite successful should they start selling their speakes through more legitimate channles. Weird. But the speakers were nice. |
young but not so stupid |
| Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 12:11 am: |
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You know, if you think about it, the word "epiphany" is defined as an "awakening to a truth" or a "sudden realization".
So maybe this is an inside joke from the manufacturer of these speakers; that if you buy these speakers, you will eventually have your own personal epiphany. You'll come to the realization that you've been duped; but it will be too late, because all that you'll be left with is the smell of the exhaust from the white van. |
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| Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2003 - 10:42 am: |
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This is how I define Epiphany: Un-f-ing-believa-ble!!! I came on line with the intention of auctioning my brand new Epiphany Model H3 Towers, with a retail value of $1,469 (according to the company website). I figured I could probably sell them for hmmm, $1000 a piece maybe, not bad considering the fact that I basically stole them from "Two Guys in a White Van" for $200. But then, I stumbled onto this site... Nonetheless, I put these two speakers, black with a silver 6.5 inch Cone speaker on the front, and a 10" woofer on the side, all encased in a beutiful black diamond wood tower (an attractive system) against my 601 Bose'. They sound good... But, I think I'm going to go and rent a white van, throw them in the back, take some acting classes, and pass them off to some greedy-deal-seeking-fool... |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 03:01 pm: |
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A wise old man once said: "Never buy anything unless it is from a store where you can return it" |
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| Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 01:15 pm: |
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Look out Dallas Texas.Same 2 guys in white van with plate # 7HTM11<~~Texas plate |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 10:05 pm: |
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Soundivision - Here is the Lombard IL phone number - 630-495-9330
Ask for Derrick between 7 - 9 pm. The office is located in the back of the UNMARKED building. Go there with some buddies and get your money back! The place is just full of white trash H.S. dropouts. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, January 20, 2003 - 09:46 pm: |
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I purchased an Onkyo HT-S650 for $250.00 from the van guys and guess what? It works great. What a deal. They threw in Monster Home Theater Kit 200 for $20.00. |
Proper Hookup |
| Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 01:10 pm: |
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I bought a pair of the epiphany bantam towers for 200 bucks. At first I thought I was totally scammed, especially after reading about all these dissatisfied people. I had realized that I had not hooked the speakers up properly. If this is the model you have, make sure that you keep the brass clips attached securely so the current runs through both the top and the bottom screws and use the bottom hookups for the speaker wire. Now they sound great. As good as if not better than my floor standing polk audios. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 04:30 pm: |
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Lesson: Never buy from two guys in a white van.
Had a similar thing here in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Guy had speakers from a van...you guessed it a white one. I said no, and walked away, got in my car and drove as he continued his 'act'. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 05:57 pm: |
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I'm from Madison Ga. and I was coming out my local Ingle's Grocery store, and these two SOB'S pulled up in a WHITE VAN and sold me a pair of epiphany speaker. But the good thing about this story is that the speakers play GREAT, and the SON OF B----s didn't get anthing close to what they was asking. SO a word to the wise, DON'T BUY FROM A WHITE VAN. IF I SEE THE BA-TARDS I'M GOING TO KICK THIER a-- |
Just Say NO |
| Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 08:21 pm: |
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I just don't understand you folks esp. Anonymous from Georgia. Purchasing is a 2 way deal. No one forced you to make this purchase. Are you so easily influenced by 2 guys selling stuff from their van? Can't say "no, not interested" and walk away?? You say the speakers play "GREAT". You paid less than the asking price. So what exactly is your gripe?
What do you expect buying merchandise out of the back of a truck!!!! |
Georgian One Up |
| Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 09:02 pm: |
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I ran into the infamous white van today. I got them to follow me to a gas station about 5 miles from my house and wait there until I went and tested 2 of the speakers out. I left a $100 cash deposit as I felt that if the speakers did suck, the cabinets were worth that. The black ones are good looking speakers. I took the 2 front speakers home and hooked them up. Sounded like 6x9's in a cardboard box. I went back up there and gave them the speakers back and told them that I was not interested. One of the guys got really pissed off but the other one kept his cool. Cool dude, if you read this, leave that loser and go get a real job. Best of Luck and always try before you buy. Georgia is a "Buyer Beware" state. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 01:04 pm: |
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I came across these three guys in a white van out-
side a warehouse club. I purchased the Epiphany
Solo for $500. After hooking the system up...
to be honest I was truely impressed with it's
performance. So, I was driven to find out more
about this product and I arrived here. After,
patiently reading through every entry on this site
I have to admit I am a bit confused. I have been
looking around for a home audio system...store
after store...and this system outperformes any
display demo I have experienced. So, I guess most of you cats are just coming across the wrong
white van because the one that came my way delivered performance. I'm not encouraging anyone to go this route I am just speaking of my
experience on this subject. |
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 03:27 pm: |
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HA! i'm such a sucker! but i didn't buy. Jan 28, 2003. 2 dudes, white van, Marietta, GA. i'm walking out of the FedEx on Windy Hill. They give the pitch. I think...Epiphany...hmmm...have i heard of that? So...the dudes come to my house so i can research the speakers on the internet! I even gave one of them a mello yello. I can't find jackSH** on the internet except for their own crappy site and a C4 on ebay for $50 with no bidders. I told them I couldn't buy something that had no market on ebay and no reputation or presence on the net. I feel like such a dumbass but I'm posting this to warn others! watch out!
BTW, after they left i searched for "epiphany audio scam" and here i am.... |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 06:34 pm: |
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I also heard someone purchased some Cypress speakers. Anyone hear of those. I can't even find a scam report on those.....
Happened to me in Newington Ct a month ago. Walked away luckily....
Some friends of mine were not so lucky and bought them. Haven't heard the verdict on the quality. They look nice on the Epiphany website.
http://store.yahoo.com/epiphanyaudio/
My advice stay away |
just me in Chicago |
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 12:31 am: |
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Just bought the "white van" sold Ephiphany solo limited in Hoffman Estates for $400 it works, at least for now, but my $350 Panasonic DVD player with component video kicks butt compared to that DVD (the sales people who even set the thing up in my home agreed). I sure hope the warranty is sound or I get at least 2 years. The guys assured me the firm they work for in the suburbs of Chicago has been around for 12 years & not going anywhere - I even have the phone numbers (and called them) of the two sales people |
Ho Ho Ho Ho Hilary |
| Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 03:37 pm: |
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Ok, went to the website, they don't even have real copyright laws. Just scroll down to the bottom of their page and look at the bottom.
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All content is (c) Epiphany, 2002 unless otherwise noted
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What the hell is (c)? The crippled Copyright law? Guys, if these people were not white trash with white trash garbage, I would be suprised. Any idiot can make the correct sign. © Voila! |
Don |
| Posted on Friday, January 31, 2003 - 10:31 pm: |
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Just got an offer from two young guys outside the Staples in Bowie, MD. The rap was the same. They claim to be $7 an hour lackies that came across overstock their boss was letting them unload. Too good to be true is too good to be true. Look out Maryland, they're here. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 10:27 am: |
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Now these guys are in a very nice Tahoe in the Kalamazoo, Michigan area.The one boys name according to his driver's license is Paul M Allen. He is probably the besst talker I have ever met. Shows you pictures of his baby, says his dad works for the sherriff's department and is very personable.Have his address and driver's license number but sure this won't do one bit of good. God, are we stupid or what? |
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| Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 03:49 pm: |
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you know thanks for the compliment.Ive been selling them for 3 1\2 years and i love my life.
[all you pay me for is my superb show]
So all you whiners that got slammed by me you just
bought me a knew CADILLAC!
TRIPLE SET KING sincerly yours
pma
ps.and a knew big
SCREEN T.V |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 02:07 pm: |
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yes a KNEW big screen TV, well guess what? Im am not as big an idiot as you. You can't even spell you red-neck fuk face. |
south jersey lesson |
| Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 04:31 pm: |
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They are in jersey too...... in the home depot on the Black Horse Pike in English Creek, near Mays Landing. The little voice saying no was not loud enough..... thank God the bantam towers actually work and sound pretty good. They were a gift for my husband who had just started shopping for speakers. I paid a bit over 200. Perhaps I didn't get exactly what I paid for, but as all so far have said..... what can one expect purchasing from fast talkers in a white van in a parking lot. And for all you slick salesmen scamming people out there...... karma!!!! maybe not today.... but bad deeds will come back to haunt you, so don't be so comfortably smug. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 02:49 pm: |
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I can't believe it. I live in Manhattn and got scammed right in front of my apartment. Two white guys with Jersey plates in a SoundVision Van. If anyone knows how to get my $300 back for the H3 towers I bought from these two as____es I would appreciate the help. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 09:34 pm: |
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Guess what? i have a dvd solo system and its GREAT!! What are you people talking about?
Where could you get a DVD player and the Dolby digital Receiver in one, with mp3 and cd player plus surround sound for under $400?
Those vans really gave you a good deal.
Maybe you should go buy a Sony DVD player, then go buy a complete surround sound system with the receiver and dolby digital decocoder is always much more expensive. |
Professor L |
| Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 09:56 am: |
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I recently got ripped off on the Epiphany C4 Towers. It sux that I got scammed. What is the deal with the two pos and two neg in the back of them. What is the best way to hook them up? Can someone tell me how to make these sound the best out of my receiver? Thanks. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 06:50 pm: |
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In downtown Atlanta GA, I saw the white van today.. the two guys tried to sell me the hometheater system. I told them that I didn't have any money. They insisted. And made the price cheaper and cheaper. But I told them that yesterday I had bought a laptop and was out of money. I offered them drugs for the speakers to see what they said. They looked at each other. Then they told me to wait for a minute and talked with each other and then decided not to go for it. They almost did though. So if you see the guys, just try to rip them off like they try to rip you, because the drugs that I was going to give them aren't really drugs. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 07:24 pm: |
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I met with the two guys in the white van in a parking lot in Mishawaka, ,In. they said that they had picked up this merchandise at a dock in Chicago and that the person who loaded their truck had accidently put an extra system in the van. They said that they called their boss in Chicago and he told them that if they came back with it they would be foolish. So they needed to dump it off before they could deliver the Two that had been ordered by a distributor, and that they had to do it before 4:30 pm. Well it was already 4:40pm.They seemed to be in a hurry because they were going to be late. Like an idiot I bought into it. when I got the s..t I went to the web site and found all of the above stories. Lucky for me I am a home boy here in MY town. I tracked them down, and without hesitation they gave me my money back. But on the way back to get their s..t I led them to the local police department. To my supprise they didn't run. Turns out that the cops couldn't touch them because it wasn't stolen, even though I presented to them a print out of all the letters listed above at this site. I should have listened to my heart when it told me that "if a deal is too good to be true,IT IS. So I was lucky to get my money back, and the only one to seemingly get in any trouble here was me, because the cop scolded me for buying. They walked off scott free. Upon leaving the one person stated to me that he was only a businessman. I corrected him in that areal man is an honest man, and that he was not. There has got to be a way to skin these a..wipes from Chi(ster) town IL. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, February 05, 2003 - 11:56 pm: |
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My wife just bought an Epiphany Holographic Imaging System tonight at the Bigfoot Amoco in Normal, IL. She paid $500, and I knew it was garbage before it even came out of the box(es). You can buy name-brand, factory warrantied, higher quality equipment at Best Buy or Circuit City.
Just yesterday I had nixed an idea about taking my kids to Disneyworld for lack of money. I didn't know we had an "extra" $500 lying around.
So a big thank-you goes out to my wife, who can "buy anything she wants," and to the "white van guys" for allowing my wife to reach her full potential in selfishness. |
young but not so stupid |
| Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 02:49 am: |
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You know, I'm continuing to check up on the stories added to this message string and I'm amazed at how many people have the same story. 12 years ago, when I had my encounter with the infamous white van, I thought I was the only one.
I guess I was one of the lucky ones who didn't buy into this scam. But you know, I really don't blame you folks who forked over your money; I mean, sure it was your choice to say no, but these slick guys are professional liars and they push really hard to make their sale. Don't blame your spouse or family member for bringing this stuff home; blame the bastarrd liars in the white van that sold it to them. |
white van - n. dallas |
| Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2003 - 01:32 pm: |
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just a warning to those in n. dallas/plano area near Preston Rd. have met 2 speaker sales people in 2 days! had initial one last fall (2002). in two cases, a chick was driving and was somewhat attractive. this may be part of new strategy for the outfit. 2 guys were alongside/in the back.
i did not listen to scam, but next time i may pursue. then walk off. i will be listening for "ephiphany towers". |
Mike |
| Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 08:56 pm: |
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looks like i just got scammed by the same guys, NJ |
PMA=OPM |
| Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 11:55 am: |
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People ... people .. people ... come on ... Listen, if you take a look at all these stories, they're all the same, boring, no life, got scamed, blah-blah-blah stories. If you ask me, I think that even though you THINK you got ripped off, the truth is you just like making big conflicts over little situations. I personally have a complete system with 4 bantams, one sub, and a cypress center channel, and I fu*kin love it. Why do I have the system? Because all day, every day, I go out and take your money. It's not a scam, it's instant gratification to making your day go better, with a deal of a life time. I'll tell you right now, these bantams are the best speakers I've ever heard, don't believe me? GET SOME. I have to go now, I'll check back later. Oh, and by the way, you may think we're white trash, but every day I come home with cash on cash laying in my pockets because I can present my self properly, talk properly, and take your money with a straight face. How many white trash people do you know who can do that, with out going to law school?? Thanks for reading.
It's SLAMTIME |
ScamOrNot |
| Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2003 - 07:22 pm: |
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PMA=OPM is right folks. It's not a scam unless the product you got doesn't work or is mis-represented. Most of you got the chance to test the speakers or dvd player before you decided to purchase. YOU made the decision to buy. You wanted a quick, slick deal & you got one.
Next time, y'all might want to ask for their local sales license, if they cannot show you one, then you'd better beware. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2003 - 11:47 pm: |
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OPM- Isnt it the best to have. These people want
to give you the world when they think THEY are the ones pulling the wool over on the wharehouse
guys. people you are mad because we were able to
get you to buy speakers out of your pure greed
As long as human nature is present the speaker guys will make money. And for the ones saying that youre gonna hurt us if you catch us,you are
outside the law in that statement. why dont you check the deal you made on your last car or truck
and go kick that salesmans butt for all the hidden charges, that you shook his hand for. The botttom line is this- WE ALL HAVE TO MAKE A LIVING DOING SOMETHING,IN EVERY JOB SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE SOMEBODY PAYS AN INFLATED PRICE FOR A PRODUCT OR SERVICE.THE GOOD THING ABOUT SELLING SPEAKERS IS THAT THROUGH OTHER PEOPLES GREED I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PUT MYSELF THROUGH COLLEGE AND BUY A HOUSE FOR MY WIFE.AFTER I GRADUATE I WILL HANG UP MY KEYS TO THE VAN AND LET ANOTHER AMBITIOUS FELLOW TO MAKE HIS MARK ON THE EARTH. UNTIL THEN WATCH OUT DUCKS BECAUSE I CAN SPOT YOUR WEBBED FEET AND BIG QUACKING FACE A MILE AWAY |
BlackVanHalenChick |
| Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 01:18 am: |
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lol .. why hang up your keys?
Your morals are corrupt, you now live with lying and deciept .. face it, you're stuck driving the white van for the rest of your life.
Oh yeah .. enjoy driving the white van, because while you're out lying and cheating people out of their money, I'm with your wife laughin about how much of a loser you are. |
young but not so stupid |
| Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 03:15 pm: |
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Hey, like I said, the people in the white vans are professional liars. Most of them probably have no other skills to make a living, so they use the only thing they're good at... lying.
In order to alleviate themselves from any guilt, they shift the blame from themselves to their victims. They call their victims "greedy". How much sense does that make, and who would you say are really the greedy ones. They probably read that one out of their "White Van Scam Training Manual".
Put it this way; How willing would they be, to talk in public to normal people (like at a freind's party) about the work that they do, without feeling ashamed or like they had something to hide? Why is that?
They'll say anything to justify what they do in order to reduce their feelings of guilt, just like they'll say anything to scam their victims. That's pretty sad. In a way, I don't really have anger towards them, but rather, I pitty them for what they are. |
dos mdder fkrs |
| Posted on Monday, February 10, 2003 - 07:52 pm: |
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A good friend of mine got taken down that road.
He only payed $150.00.. Atlantic city area Post the tag numbers please!!!!!!!!!! |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 04:27 pm: |
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I just bought 2 Bantum speakers in the home depot parking lot in MI and should have bought the full 6 speaker deal from them because the speakers are great for what I paid. The real question is how do I find the guys to get the rest of the system now? My mistake. |
Arty Art |
| Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 06:36 pm: |
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These van guys really seem to like Home Depot parking lots. I was approachecd at one, and offered first the speakers, and then the Solo DVD system. Looked crappy, even though one of the guys "called" his boss and checked the price on the system ($3,495). I didn't buy sh_t. In response to the people who have indeed purchased the system and are happy with it: Good for you. However, please don't brag about the benefits of a $500 Epiphany system with all the "features" -- you can get the same stuff at BestBuy or Crutchfield for 300-500, and the brands will be Sonys, Panasonics and JVCs. I don't know about you, but I'll take one of those three over Epiphany any day. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 09:26 pm: |
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GUESS WHAT? MY BOYFRIEND COMES HOME TALKING ABOUT THESE SPEAKERS AND I LOOKED THEM UP ON THE NET. GUESS WHAT I FOUND. THIS F***ING SITE. 2 GUYS IN A VAN SHOULD GET THEIR A*S'S BEAT. GUESS WHAT'S FUNNY THOUGH, THE F*ING AS**OLE GAVE HIM HIS PHONE #. I AM GOING TO CALL FOX 2 AND THEY WON'T EVEN BE ABLE TO SELL ANOTHER SPEAKER!! |
Rob YouBlind |
| Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 12:20 am: |
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Epiphany
feb 12, 2003
I go to get my haircut, in Orange. These two guys in a WHITE VAN, with some logo on the side stop me in the parking lot in ORANGE, CONNECTICUT. They give me this 'spec sheet' its a damn laminated webpage printout of something off of stores.yahoo.com/epiphany. Long story short, this just happened about 5 - 6 hours ago. This guy in a van with his obvious confidence scheme cohort, say hey you want home stereo man? I always love a laugh so I check it out, these dirtbags....oh geez. Anyways he shows me these boxes full of junk labeled Epiphany. All sealed, new looking like,...I dunno boxes of stereo stuff. He shows me the sheet which has it listed as 1,450.00 or some other astronomical price! He says because these speakers were paid for by showcase cinemas in milford, THAT HAS TO BE SLANDER, using their name to sell junk, and they cancelled their order his boss told him to 'unload' them, just throw them out he even says. See he can't keep them because he lives somewhere in 'New York' So he has to sell them to me, right now. I say well I don't have 14 hundred for no name speakers. He asks how much do you have? I say nothing becausre this guy looks so fcking hungry, I've been mugged before, thats the look he had on his face. I guess if his parents tried a little harder and he got some education or learned a skill or a craft. No let's rip off our fellow citizens. So skeptical, I say I gotta shoot up the road, i'll come back in 15 minutes. Its only a mile and I have to show my dad this sht. He recounts how 5 weeks ago some persistent puerto rican guy, similar description of van and appearance, tried to sell him some 'audio stuff', 'cell phones' 'whatever you want',..etc.....
hmmmm so anyways I go back to supercuts, i just wanna get my haircut. I tell the guy not interested. He becomes beligerent and theatens to punch my fcking face in. And my whiteboy azz is gonna give him something. He says, you got five dollars? No.
I know you do, you owe me for wasting my time. Give me some money motherfcker. I told this guy, 'NO!' get the fck out of my way. I gotta say I felt like a bittch, but this greasy bastrd took me by surprise. This guy was conning me, even though I knew it from the get go, so persistent, so arrogant so aggresive. Anyways I tell him If he I'm going to get in my car now and just fcking leave. I just sort of said that, not sure why. Luckily there was atleast 1 witness it was daylight and a highly frequented road. This bastrd was a mugger in sheeps clothing, his last name was Romero and says his base of operations is in stamford, ct.
He was about 5'9'', black hair, perto rican, with a u.s marine keychain string holding on his 'official salesdick' license around his neck.
here's what I do know about these guys;
1. The company name is Sound Division, that was the logo on their Van, they are located in Stamford.
2. The ringleader places adds in the Norwalk Hour, Call Jim 203-323-0741 <<<any questions try this dick.
3. They have a 'great' website www.epiphany.biz
That's all I know check out the connecticut section of scamshield.com, they have OODLES on this white van scam. P.S If anyone sees Mr. Romero from Sound Division in Stamford, who's manager MAY be named Jim
at this number 203-323-0741 tell him if he still wants to punch me in the face Im up for it.
PS if you do get the license plate please post it here I want to file a complaint with local cops, state cops and my lawyer. They drive the standard long white van but the sign, which is one of those magnetic take off put on types reads Sound Design, they claim to only install Movie Theatres sound systems and such. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 10:55 am: |
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I am making a second request to anyone in, or around, Manhattan who can offer information on these Soundivision guys. I would really like to track them down. If you have a name, # or licence plate I would appreciate the tips. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 01:30 pm: |
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Hope this site helps you guys out http://www.scamshield.com/Feature.asp?id=1 |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 02:58 pm: |
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Whie Van Scam...Epiphany Bantam Towers
Just like the warning and article. Exhuberant, fell upon a windfall and had to get rid of product ASAP. Three white guys in white Chevy van. Telegraph and Goddard area. I payed $265 fom the ATM and pocket change. Haven't tried them yet...hope they sound good.
Michigan Distributor...
SounDivision
a.k.a. Vision Ventures
11700 Wormer Street
Redford, Michigan 48239
Contact: Larry Kaiser
By the way, he removed his street number, so it's very hard to find his warehouse. We talked to Larry Kaiser, but he was very rude. Basically, he said he was a distributor and can't do anything about refunding the money. He is not responsible for returns, even though he sells directly to the van drivers. If we wanted a refund, we have to go directly to the guys in the white van. Then he left quickly, claiming he had an appointment with his attorney. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 03:42 pm: |
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My brother-in-law just got "scammed" today, February 13, 2003. Happy Valentines Day! I'm sure he won't be getting any from his wife tomorrow! Just for the record, we live in Farmington Hills, Michigan and the scam occurred at a Home Depot! |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 05:26 pm: |
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I don't know why you people call this a scam. Anyone who is selling a product is going to say it's the best there is and what not, much like Bose workers, QVC, Nike, ect. As a consumer it's up to you to make sound choices, like someone said earlier in this thread, you bought them because you thought you were getting over, instead you got bent over, and now you feel cheated. But you didn't think you were cheating anyone buying $2500 speakers for $250. These people are not much different from door to door sales men, and you have no problem saying no to them, but because they were selling something you wanted you listened. So really, the only person you scammed, was yourself. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, February 14, 2003 - 02:17 pm: |
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Hi everyone, sorta seems like this is one of those AA meetings that you see in movies... Hi I'm so and so, and I bought a set of speakers from a couple of guys in a white van....
Well, I guess you can add me to that list. I should have known better, but oh well. I have yet to hook up the speakers to see if they actually work, but I got those epiphany C4 speakers.
Anyway, I found some info on the company. I searched the web and found this site (ecoustics), but I also figured I would search on ebay to see what I could find. Here is what I found:
www.epiphanyaudio.biz
Take a look on ebay, it looks as if some people are getting a little cash back from this deal. I just feel bad for the people who are buying from them. |
PMA=OPM |
| Posted on Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 03:19 pm: |
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Hey peeps, it's me again. I try telling you guys, but very few of you seem to listen, it's NOT a scam, it's not even a bad deal. like I said before, it's instant gratification to making your day go better. You know, it really boggles me to hear about someone who thinks they are getting F'ed, and they haven't even pulled the freakin speakers out of the box yet. Seriously, can anyone else agree with that? Yes, I am a speaker guy, and very proud of it. I'll tell anyone who asks me what I do for a living. I don't feel ashamed or wrong, and I certainly don't put any blame on my customers, not "victims." It's my business, my company, just because I don't set up shop, advertise, and wait for something to happen, doesn't make me a bad person. I'm extremely educated, and I was always told that if you wait for something to happen, life won't just pass you by, it'll run you over. My van is my shop, and I feel smarter that way, no phone bills, gas bills, electric bills, or even rent. I don't have to pay for advertising, because I don't want to wait for you to come to me, I go to you, and I have everything it takes to make the deal happen NOW. So tell me, who's a smarter business owner? I'm tired now, I think I'll go watch my big screen, sit back on my italian leather sofas, and enjoy life. What do you know, I get my weekends off. Isn't that great? By the way, a slam I made yesterday, on valentines, the guys name was Curtis, if you should happen to read this, I just wanted you to know that you were probably the coolest guy I've ever sold to, and I hope you're loving your new big screen, and C4s. Peace I'm out. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 08:14 am: |
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You know, PMA=OPM, it may be that the speakers are not bad at all. I am not complaining about that. I won't complain about that until I actually hook them up and try them. Actually, I expect that they will work pretty good. If they don't, then shame on me, because I should have known better than to buy from some guy out of the back of a white van. However, I don't anticipate any problems with the speakers.
What I didn't like is the fact that I was lied to. If these are quality speakers as you state, and this is a legitimate business, then why is there a need to lie to your customer. Your whole method of doing business is a lie, so why are you suprised when people get upset? Tell the truth.
If the products are as good as you claim, then they will sell themselves. Here you are, operating a business based on lies, there is no method of trying to contact you if someone does have a problem, and anyone who has anything to do with the speakers takes the fifth whenever questioned. You also only deal in cash, so that there is no paper trail (It also makes it convient for you not to have to report sales to the government). Seems like a scam to me. Someday you will probably scam the wrong person, and you'll get caught. It would be naive of me to say that I hope you learn your lesson, because you won't. I just hope that others might see these forum messages and hear the warnings before it is too late.
Like I stated earlier, if the speakers are as good as you claim, then they will sell themselves via word of mouth. There is no need to lie. However, due to the way you operate and word of mouth, your operating area will continue to shrink as we tell others not to deal with you.
Plain and simple fact is that you are a liar. I hope you change, but I doubt you will. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 12:28 am: |
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Yup, been there, done that, been had!
Atlanta, same white van, same pair of illiterates, same line of crap, god what an idiot for falling for their line,
By the way, anyone want to buy this really great Solo system and tower speakers still in box, I'll sell them, cheap, (white van not inlcuded)! |
Pietaster |
| Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 01:28 pm: |
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I say the next time anyone sees this van, instead of ignoring the salesman, kick the living sh*t out of them. Then, take all the equipment and dump the van down by the river. I haven't been scammed by them, but if I see them, I'm going to start swinging without even letting them deliver their pitch. |
jason taylor |
| Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 05:24 am: |
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unfreakin believable.....Tha ATL. baby...no sh.tty white van, just two drugged out lookin young twenty somethings out to make a deal. I have to say though I thought for sure it was hot merchandise...glad to hear it's not....my solo limited sounds and works great....maybe its the white van, don't know.....the only bad that may come of this is the fact that if i keep it going like i have, i'll be looking for a new place to live....everybody around me at my apts. has to be gettin pissed, unless they like my music.
hate'n life for ya....take the good with the bad |
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| Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 06:20 pm: |
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Hey guys I'd like to get everyone from Georgia who has gotten scammed by these people together. Please tell me all the information you know about who they were.. and if possible lisence plate numbers... names they gave you and numbers. I am going to contact my attorney about this soon. On the receipt it say that we are atleast entitled to get our money back. |
Rick U. |
| Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 09:46 am: |
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My wife, trusting soul she is, got 2 "Bantam Towers" from a white van at a gas station in southern CT (this time from a woman named Vanessa, I think). She paid $260. Vanessa said she could get her money back by calling a guy named "Dan".
I called this "Dan" the next day at a cell #, and he said just follow the directions on the back of the receipt (which I didn't have in front of me). You have to return them within 3 days (& many other conditions). 1st problem, the sale date was illegible. 2nd problem, the price was illegible. 3rd problem, Dan never answered his phone again or returned msgs.
Haven't tried the spkrs yet... I'll let you know. |
Ledco Ltd. |
| Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 12:58 pm: |
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Same Van, Same sales staff. But honestly I love my solo system it's only a notch or two under the bose system for 1/5 of the price. I wasn't two thrilled with the h-3's. I've only hooked them up to the solo, I wonder if I have to drive them with a better amp or amp the solo output. anybody know? I gotta say though that my hats off to these guys. I've been in sales my whole life, and that was one of the best pitches I ever saw, I'm not easily fooled. but the stuff works great and i feel I got my moneys' worth. The only reason any of the people on this forum are pissed off,(with the exception of those who bought non-functioning equipment)is because you thought you were getting a chance to rip off the manufacturer. I'm not mad at all, I'm impressed
Sales requires tenacity as does business. it's not how I would run my business, but it seems to work. And the only reason it works is because so many people will become interested if they think they're the ones doing the cheating.
Keep up the good work guys but if you really want to make real cash find somthing you can sell
with integrity. The truly good salesman is the one who can sell somthing honestly, and the money is much better.
I read your thing about your big screen TV's
Look me up when you want to brag about your new airline or your new shopping mall. Maybe some day I'll see ya in the big leagues.
Steve |
Meow Mix |
| Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 04:25 pm: |
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Wow, this scam has been going on for a while! I had some fools do this to me 3yrs. ago at the LMU campus here in Los Angeles. I just laughed at their sales pitch (We just came back from a celebrity's house and did this amazing set up with these speakers, and we realized that we have one set too many, so we're not going to tell our boss about this.) I can't believe the huge amount of people falling for their scam. I've seen them 4 times in 4yrs., and all in their white vans with many of these speaker sets inside. Why would you trust anything being sold out of a car?? |
Moron |
| Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 08:00 pm: |
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I just got scammed at a parking lot off RTE 22 in Scotch Plains New Jersey. I bought the Bantam Towers for $234 and now feel like a heel. I almost got in my car and left, but the pitch was good and now I am out of the money.
Just having had twin boys, that money could have been better spent on formula or diapers, but you live and learn. |
support yourtown |
| Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 08:42 pm: |
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You guys are amazing! This is the funniest story I've read in ages. Thanks for my laughs for today.
Greed strikes again---and again---and again. Yes, indeed, why would you buy anything from strangers out of a car, especially if you truly want quality? I'm in the process of buying my first home theater components, and believe me, I'm shopping at my local audio/video dealers. They need my business, and I need their technical support because I'm planning on using this equipment for years and years. When I support my local independent small business dealers, they will be there to help keep my community friendly and knitted together. Those guys in the white van and nationwide box stores like Home Depot don't care about me or my town. My local audio/video dealer does. Shop locally! |
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 11:02 pm: |
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yeah so it happend to me tooo.... Unlike everyone else thus far i dont care. I had seen them 4 years ago outside of nyc....These couldnt be the same guys...But the pitch was the same. Droping off speakers to somewhere in villanova..They loaded us with too many so we gotta ditch these b4 we go back...Anyway its three guys with jersey plates saying they are from Cherry hill NJ...Either way be aware and hope you guys dont get stuck with shite you dont want
Either way check the cover on the side of the towers does seem to stay on for me.... :-(
My Email is posted if you have any Ouestions or have any comments....please put epiphany in the subject line so i dont delete it.
either way east coasters beware |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 11:30 am: |
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I got scammed yesterday at about 6pm in Newington CT.
I got 2 H3 Towers for $150
so it's not that bad but still, im pissed and wanna find out how to get those guys or get my money back.
Did anyone else get scammed in Newington?
If anyone has any new info on these guys just email me. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 02:48 pm: |
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God you people are stupid. You did NOT get scammed. These items are not stolen. they might not be all that good but they are legit. Plain and simple you got sold by some good street salesmen sellign whatever they can to make a living. You got greedy and now you hae buyers remorse is all. Call all the cops you want. they arent selling stolen stuff. you just got greedy and bought second rate goods. Now you are going to cry scam? |
one pissedoffmotherfu.... |
| Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 03:09 pm: |
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i got taken for $100....the white man is the devil |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 12:28 am: |
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Its funny but i see these guys alot around the lower fairfield county area, and they all have the same story, come on guys even if this stuff isnt stolen atleast be some what truthful so just for that imma put you guys on front street every time I see a different salesperson. Inoticed these two white guys trying to sell this stuff in the Stratford CT and Fairfield CT Home Depot parking lot driving a white van G.M brand license plate NMX-72P New Jersey plates two white males in their early 20's. If I see any more of these guys i will post them up. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 12:33 am: |
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Oh yeah for every stupid A$$ that approaches me with this same story on how the truck was overloaded and need to get rid of the stuff imma smack the sh!t out of you!!!! Cause I am not the one!!!!!! Its funny I never see you guys in the Bridgeport CT Home Depot cause you would get robbed for your stuff and the Sh!it kicked out of you. |
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| Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 10:29 pm: |
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Heard there's a special paint you paint a wall with to use as projector screen. Anybody heard of such paint and where to get it. thanks. |
Suckered like the rest |
| Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 01:02 am: |
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Well at least its good to know I wasn't the only one. I am in the GA ATL area and I bought 2 H-2's for $120. They work ok.. I fell for the same thing everyone else did albeit not stolen or not functioning. Mine work fine for now.
BTW all those who have the H-2's the 4 hookups in back are as follows.. Top 2 are main sound bottom two (With connector pin inbetween them ) are to ADD more speakers to, without that connector bracket there is no use for the bottom connections.. Its kind of a loop thing add more for better sound.
Anyway it happened to me in front of work, I was thinking stolen or too good to be true, however I was greedy and bought them anyway.
My hat goes off to those smooth talkers, however as was stated earlier in this string if you like the quality of the stuff you sell then have the company sell it legit with a possibility of refund for unsatisfied customers..
And to everyone else Buyer Beware. Look into ANYTHING you buy, for your own peace of mind..
:-)
Suckered like the rest |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 02:20 am: |
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PMA you sound like a real go getter..I would like to hire your professional services, I will train you and show you the only thing you are missing to be happy when you close a deal..integrity. and at the same time pass by my house,check my electronic toys, meet my happy family and my great circle of friends..most of them were once customers of mine..say hello to your dad..great job. |
plano,tx |
| Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 10:27 am: |
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happened valentines day 2003
thought we got taken for sure
i didn't even check to see
if speakers were in the boxes
WE GOT LUCKY!!!!! TOO TRUSTING BUT........
UNBELIEVEABLE SOUND PAID $250
hook 'em up and rock out
mine work great
c-4 towers bought in plano tx.
white van 2 white guys
one big guy w/ piercings
one sm. long hair
great salesman
too risky though
lucked out my
first and only time
to buy something of the street |
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| Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 10:17 pm: |
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LOL everyone they screwed me today. I have the liscence plate numbers and i know whre the 2 kids in the white van live. I followed them back an hr from where i live in NJ just so i would know if they didnt work. Well i am asking you guys to ask around and send $1 to me so i can take these kids to court or at least make this thing public so more an more people dont fall for the same scam we did. I appreciate this very much if you are intrested you can email me at bpg412@hotmail.com |
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 06:27 pm: |
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PUNKS Thought I got a Deal of a life time they suck not only did my wife call me a fool she was right
Easton Pa same story New Jersey License plates
White Van with soundvision on it 2 guys and 1 chick |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 06:53 pm: |
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This white van scam thing has interested me so much only because I have never ever seen these guys up here in Vancouver, BC Canada.
Has anyone here seen these guys in or around Vancouver, BC in Canada?
I would love to find them and see this for myself!! |
jojo |
| Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 10:44 pm: |
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well like you guys i purchased a pair of these speakers but i got them from a friend i blew the tweeters in mine but i'll tellyou what i know good speakers when i hear them they were kickass speakers i just wish i could get the tweeters and crossovers fixed i already had a pair of polk audios that i paid 500 apiece for from circuit city that i knew was junk from the beginning so i didnt get ripped off they are very good speakers i wouldnt mind having another pair i just pumped to much power through them, and any grade school moron should know what binding posts onthe back of a speakr are only thing is that the marketing strategy is very suspect and the cabinetry is of very high quality and workmanship that is what made me purchase these speakers from my freind i know good quality cabnet work becausei do some of that as a hobby its very time consuming so pma if you read this maybe you can help me get some replacement tweeters i really like my speaker. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 01:32 am: |
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can you say "run on sentence" |
PMA=OPM |
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 06:08 am: |
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Well well well... What do we have here... A bunch of new people. Oooops hold on... give me a sec. I think I'm going to take the day off today and go over all the publications in all the websites to see if I can hire some people to work with me. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 01:50 pm: |
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What the hell are you talking about? |
clown vomit |
| Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 06:30 pm: |
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PMA=OPM is a 13 year old kid who wants you to believe he sells speakers using deceptive and border-line illegal sales tactics. He's trying to make friends at school, trying to fit in and will do just about anything (including posting ridiculous fantasies).
An imposter . not the real "white van" guy. |
Dlinh747 |
| Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:28 pm: |
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anyone know about cypress serious cinema 6.4 home theater set of speakers? My father just bought these from two white man drove a chevy Tahoe...Is this a scam? or not? and which connector use for these speakers? Thanks |
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| Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 07:59 pm: |
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This entire thread is too good to be true. Are we sure that this "two guys in a white van" story is not just an urban legend?
When I get old I am going to tell my grandchildren of this great tale.
This is pure entertainment... |
Sebastien |
| Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 10:21 pm: |
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Legally, you just implicated yourself, and can have criminal charges raised against you. I'd be more careful what you say in the future. This BBS forum is considered a legal document, and may be used as evidence in the court of law. |
Greg Lee |
| Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 10:41 am: |
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If people can disagree this much about the quality of the white-van systems, it seems clear that some are being unduly influenced by extraneous factors. Either you think they're great because you don't like to think you've been had, or you think their awful because of the odd way they are, er, marketed. Whatever. But don't you think there is an interesting moral here for what to believe when you hear or read recommendations for audio systems that are widely sold, widely reviewed and widely discussed? |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 08:15 pm: |
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SounDivision is hiring here in Atlanta, i went down there today for an "interview" with a guy named J.C. ... the ad was in the AJC on sunday
" enjoyment opportunities "
i didnt know anything about this company until i decided to research and this forum link was the only thing to come up. after reading in this forum, i have decided not to pursue employment with "SounDivision" |
Sebastien |
| Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 10:03 pm: |
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That's too bad they took off PMA's message. It was pure gold. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 09:30 am: |
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SoundDiVision set up shop for a fleating moment last night in the parking lot of Lowe's in Charlottesville, VA. I laid down $180 for a sub-woofer. I tried it out and I can say that it at least works and sounds o.k. thus far; it probably is as good as the cheapest subwoofer at Crutchfield (low end Sony for $99). It looks good and feels sturdy so I'm guessing the materials alone in this thing must have been $30-$50 in cost to the manufacturer & margins on audio components are pretty high to begin with, so I figure I paid about $80 too much. They sold me the same line about their boss, had the same van, etc.
They were pushing hard for me to buy the speakers also for another $200, but I told them flat out that I thought there was a good chance that I was being somehow scammed and that if I got scamed for $200 I would be mildly ticked but if I got scammed for $400 than I'd really be pissed off. Should have gone with my gut and not parted with more than $80 for the sub-woofer, which is probably what it is worth. Shame on me!
From reading these posts, it seems that this is a 'professional' business opportunity for individuals who hold themselves to lower ethical standards than legitimate business people. I'm sure that the components are of low quality but at least they work, and I don't believe they are stolen. The bottom line is that these people have taken consumer marketing tactics to an all time low, but it appears to be working!
As the saying goes, "caveat emptor"... |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 12:13 am: |
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White van, two twenty something white males, speakers and Epiphany Home Theater Systems, West Springfield, Massachusetts. Tuesday, March 11, 2003. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 04:26 pm: |
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I was gotten by this scam about a month ago, I bought two of the floor speakers for $200 dollars, and I tried to take them to the pawn shop an all he offered was $100, but I am determined to get what I paid for them. It was two guys and a girl in a white van, and I was suckered in as it seems everybody else was. My incident happened int Atlanta, GA, and about a week later I was approached by another white van trying to sell me a sub woofer, I just hope and pray that I don't see them again, because I will get my money back. |
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 07:38 pm: |
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Sebastien
Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 10:21 pm
"Legally, you just implicated yourself, and can have criminal charges raised against you. I'd be more careful what you say in the future. This BBS forum is considered a legal document, and may be used as evidence in the court of law. "
Sebastien, nevermind! |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 10:27 pm: |
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I was scamed by 1 man and 1 girl today white van !
but I know something they don't their f*ucking liscence nuber on the bank cameras sorry suckers |
yo |
| Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 08:32 pm: |
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Hey you guys, go check under the home audio forum on this site, and you will see a bunch more people that got scammed by the white van guys too. |
Jeffrey |
| Posted on Friday, March 14, 2003 - 09:12 pm: |
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Anyone here buy the
"Digital Audio 2002 pro series II DA 5.1" 800 watts? if you do, can you please respond to this? I am wanting to know if you have any paperwork, like warranty and receipt and stuff. |
John Jeffery |
| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 01:13 am: |
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Does anyone know of the people who were scaming in roseville Mi in mocomb county?? |
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| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 04:25 pm: |
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I AM A SPEAKER MAN!!!!!!!!!! I just started with these guys and believe me if I didn't feel as if I was selling people a highend quality pruduct, I wouldn't be selling this stuff. If I had the money I'd buy the 6.4 Cypress series for my father. That thing is just FUC*!NG AWESOME!! And I will. I'll get it for my father and for myself. I read all these messages from people that haven't even opened the the box saying they've been had. QUIT BEING SUCH MORONS!!!! Open up the box, and hook up the speakers the right way and you will have an epiphany!! You'll have a f**king heart attack because of how good they sound! And please people consider the sources of negative feed on these boards. We've had people threaten us to beat our a$$es and rob our stuff. What intelligent person would say thigs like that? None that I know of! So if you see us on the street and you know what it's all about, just keep in mind we're only trying to make a livin just like anybody else. I'm a person just like you are, and I don't need someone telling me to F*CK OFF! just because youré having roid rage you big FU!@ING juice head at the gym the other night. I hope you read this you pr!ck. Be cool, enjoy life and even if you don't want anything you could still laugh a little. LIFE IS TOO SHORT MAN!!!!! LIVE A LITTLE BIT. On that note, I'll see you all out there, out of my white van, when I'm slammin you, and youré payin me!!! Sure the method of sales is a little diffrent but they called Einstein crazy too. Stop being soo narrow minded people. For anyone out there that speaks of Karma, I say FU$K YOU. I SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT! It's legal, it's fun, and while I'm making a little cash I'm giving you sh!t I wish I could afford. So if youré mad at your wife because she bought you something with money she should not have spent, what are you really mad at? That she bought you something or that she spent the money she should not have touched? Think about it dummy! Don't be mad at me cause I slammed your wife! HA HA! That's funny! PAY ME!!!!!!!! I AM A SPEAKER MAN!!!!!!!! |
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| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 08:11 pm: |
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For all you people out there that can't figure out how to set up these awesome speakers all you havetó do is read the following phrase out loud and then you'll understand why.
I'M SOFA KING WE TALL DID.
It may take a couple of tries of saying it out loud before you eventually understand why you can't understand the setup of the speakers. Try again.
I'M SOFA KING WE TALL DID.
Yeah! you got it we sell sofas too!! |
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| Posted on Saturday, March 15, 2003 - 11:43 pm: |
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Hey is there any speaker people out there ?
If there is how do I get a refund?
You say this isn't a scam but, There is no refund on this stuff,no warrenty, and you your self are saying the stuff you sell is sh*t(but it puts money in you pocket. I lost 500 to you guys and got nothing but H 3 towers and a sub woofer. Come on guys I'm only 15 and new to this world. Why did you rip me off and take advantage of me? I do agree that this was my own selfishess
I've tried to call any get a refund but so far no one will be kind and help a young fellow out.
You guys are so good at what you do (you could get my to buy a piece of swamp land in Florida.
I was saving for a car but I am now a little short.)
Please if any of you guys out their want to help me out and refund me in the Michigan area give me a phone number. Or does this mean I should drive around and drop these off to someone else?
Well I hope I will have some luck in the future.
ps.please e mail me with some type of help
later,
Brandon |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 02:53 pm: |
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Hey Everybody I kidnapped two speaker guys here in Maryland! I will be autioning them Friday the 21st on ebay with no reserve.
You will be bidding on...
1 Chevy work van
20 boxes of low-grade speakers(retails fo well over 50k) Imax uses Epiphany!
2 name tags
2 magnetic SounDivision signs (for the van)
1 dirty Pothead with a jamaican rosta hat
1 kinda fat kid with glasses that doesn't shutup
Assorted invoices, blank receipts, full color documents showing retail prices for the speakers
Buyer pays all shipping.
This is a one of a kind auction guys...Happy Bidding! |
scammedinwisconsin |
| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 08:24 pm: |
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sh*t, people this is crazy. my father just bought 2 epiphany h3 speakers for 270. i gotta say, my dad f***edem over, they wanted 800, then 400, then when they loaded em in his car he wanted 300, my dad gave em 270 and they kinda looked fucked, lol. when they were talking to my dad, i walked up with a cigarette, pretending to look down the street and checked out their plate. I AINT NO DAMN FOOL!! but i dont think anyone can touch'em, to me it sounds like they work for a warehouse in chicago and are salespeople who r slick as hell, its all legite, nothing illegal so you cant f***'em over with the cops, the thing is they make you think your gettin a real one of a kind deal when it happens all over. my guess is that there are a few sales white vans, they couldnt cover all that space in that amount of time. but we havent hooked em up yet, so well see if were on the good end or the bad end of the deals. came across this site tryin to hook em up and my jaw f***ing dropped. this is in racine wisconsin in a gas station. reply to this and tell me what ya think bout my theory |
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| Posted on Monday, March 17, 2003 - 10:03 pm: |
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I hope someone will help me! |
Morons |
| Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 - 12:14 pm: |
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A fool and his money are soon parted. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Tuesday, March 18, 2003 - 04:05 pm: |
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We were approached in Downtown Atl near the Arts Center, by a white van with 2 white guys in it. He said his name was AJ and that Soundvision was on Howell Mill Road not far from where we stopped. They gave us the same speil about having extras and having to offload them before their next delivery or they would lose them. My BIG sister had me stop for the "White Van". I listened to her as always (never again). I lugged the 55 lb speakers up to my bedroom only to find that I didn't have anything to hook them to on my TV or DVD/VHS player. After reading this string, I'm gonna have to lug them back downstairs to the den to hook them up to my Kenwood stero in place of my Cerwin Vega's. GOD I hope I'm one of the lucky few who actually got a working pair of speakers. I borrowed $100 of the $200 I spent from my sister :-). I did find a link from this string that took me to the Epiphany website. I saw the very same speakers. I didn't look at the copyright on the bottom, but I will when I finish this message. If mines don't work, I'm calling Clark Howard!! He'll know what to do. |
lucky 1N Atlanta |
| Posted on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 - 10:23 am: |
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Whew!! They worked just fine. No need to call Clark (this time). I disconnected the CV's and turned the bass up and listened to the bump. It was good :-) They are not as good as the CV's, but then they are different sizes the CV's 12" and H3's are 8". I can work with them, unless somebody wants to make me an offer I can't refuse. I will be on the look-out for white guys in white vans though, never again will I put myself in a position to be scammed. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, March 20, 2003 - 07:47 pm: |
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The van was sighted in Dearborn, Michigan on March 20. They are still scamming! My husband paid 500 for the home audio Epiphany system!
UNBELIEVABLE! Its comforting to know that he wasn't the only one who fell for this scam! |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 01:30 am: |
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To LUCKY1NATLANTA,
Whay would you call it ascam if you said they work just fine? |
your mama |
| Posted on Friday, March 21, 2003 - 01:39 am: |
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I had the same thing happen to me .but the big thing your missing is that the name isnt sound vision because that is a legitamat buisness in hollywood ca.just down the road from thier fake b#ll Sh@t address its SOUNDiVision .i got takken for 200 dollars gor the battom towers ohwell ill sell that at work for 300. I know thats mean but I dont care .p.s if ifind you two dorks!! agian im going to beat you so bad that youll be actually cool ill beat the dork out of you two spazzmatic ridalin fukks. |
speaker man |
| Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 09:24 am: |
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dude i sell speakers out the side of my van i know there real i give reeipts and warrenties i hook them up if you wanted to hair them man people are greedy cause we tell them right off the bat that there extra so thay think hey im going to get a deal i make about 1500 a week i pay taxes am 21 i dont rip any one off ok thay say 2000 a pair you pay 200 to 600 the same way a car dealership gets a car for 4500 and sells it for 10000 no diffents sell ill keep jammin tell you stop buying |
speakerman |
| Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 09:26 am: |
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sound division is a scam |
clown vomit |
| Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 11:46 am: |
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why do all "white van" speaker salesman sound like elementary school dropouts?
if you're going to "jam" somebody and then try to justify it on a message board, at least read your f**king post before you send it.
or better yet, open your own thread, name it "retarded dooshbags only" and post away. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 06:06 pm: |
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i can give y'all the address of SounDivision here in Atlanta
1710 Chattahoochee Ave
Atlanta, GA 30138
turn right off of Howell Mill Rd onto Chatt Ave.
(it's 3rd building past the cemetary...not sure about the zip, but i've been by the place so i know it's there...and it is right off Howell Mill Rd.) |
John Q |
| Posted on Saturday, March 22, 2003 - 11:07 pm: |
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I was approached in Livonia, MI; MO as just about everyone else...white van, etc. I'm a reasonably honest person and found it hard to suppress the greed -- glad I did! |
Joe Smith |
| Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 02:21 pm: |
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Douchebags, got me too. I'm not pissed that I took a shot at a possible great deal and got beat. I'm pissed because these scumbags do this and it somehow seems to be legal. They lie to sell you something. Isn't there something wrong with that. I have contacts in the BBB and I am discussing the issue with them. I am not really worrying about getting my 200 bucks back, but being a consumer in the US I would like these scams to stop. I would rather buy stolen sh*t off of a street hussler than crap from two h0m0s in a van or in my case
A white Tahoe Tag number will be coming in my next post...i have it writted down in my car. Jersey plates...got me in Stroudsburg PA.
With that said I will be getting a carload of friends and traveling the area parking lots in search for these upstanding business men. |
Jay Sherwin |
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 06:16 pm: |
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The white van crew has been spotted in McLean, VA and also in Frederick, MD off Jefferson Street. Epiphany stuff is what they were hawking. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 02:10 am: |
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Yeah these fools like ripping people off. Thing is, their time is near. Big as@ liars right to your face. If you want to fuk these crack head fa@ots up they've been setting up shop in the Laurel, Baltimore, Anne Arundal County area. They've been spotted all over the place. They are sloppy a@s fuking loser drugged out bast@rds, who are too fuking stupid not to get caught. They are all fa@ots too, ones name, Jason, drives a copper looking tahoe or suburban with his g@y a@s fa@ot friend with his cute little plug earings. I swear they looked like lil flamers just trying to come out of the closet. His pus$y cowardly fa@ot lovers drive white vans with sometimes sound vision magnets on the side. They are so full of shizat. Make the trip...Get your damn cash. Join in and beat the sh1t of some ba@stards |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, March 28, 2003 - 10:36 am: |
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I bought speakers in New Jersey- Paid $300, they didn't work well, so I received a full refund when I returned the speakers to the warehouse the following day.
Find your local SoundVision distributor and they will gladly refund your money within 3 days of purchase if your product doesn't work. Better to be proactive than to complain on a message board. |
SoundDivisionSmoker |
| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 02:05 pm: |
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Speakerman here. How much money do you think you pay just for marketing alone when u go to Best Buy for the product. How much do you think they mark up the price. Just like you we speakermen are making money for our families. Its all legit. Its all legal. Its not a hustle. Its just like putting candy in front of a supermarket line. Its a form of marketing called direct mobile marketing. I get the product and sell it how much I want to. If you had a product and you could sell it for how much you wanted to wouldn't you sell it for as much as you could. E-bay on wheels that is what I do. How many of you can say that you make $500 a day. My fellow speakermen holla back. I got me my college education and loving the life of speakerman. Before you cry about the problems with the speakers you have listen to them. Don't listen the Web. White Van Gearing for more money. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 05:48 pm: |
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A true salesman will also refund your money if you are not happy with the product, not leave you with white smoke from a van, and never see them again,
If you want to keep your word why don't you email me and take back these useless speakers?
you Speaker people!
I don't have time for this sh*T So email me!
Later |
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 06:21 pm: |
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yo these guys got me today, tuesday march 1st 2003, they are in pennsylvania, Stroudsburg. F****** a******. The system is good, but what kinda cheesey deal was this, i thought the stuff was hot. lol. ah well, The system is good though, titanium speakers and all and the epiphany sound system does work pretty well. I hooked it up and every thing works out ok. Actuallyl perfect. I don't see what all teh fuss is, to find something like this over at the local circut city or other retailers would be well over 2000, so i think i lucked out. Thank you you guys, it is a good deal that i'm happy with. lol. Remember me in the red civic! lol. i'm sure they read this every day and laugh their buts off. lol.
You've goto hook up both pre amps, in order to have both speakers working, if the connector pieces aren't there. This is a good speaker, good stuff. C'mon you guys have to give this guy credit. lol. |
Damnit |
| Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 02:37 pm: |
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Yea I was just scammed by these f*ckers about 20mins ago... I was drivin and they pulled up next to me and got me to make the deal wit them I knew it was too shady and I didnt want to but for some reason I did and Im so f*ckin pissed I just dropped $200 on these shits that I will prob not use, Im prob gonna go take a baseball bat to them right now...... |
William M |
| Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 06:02 pm: |
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I was scammed on Tuesday April 1, 2003 (April Fools Day). I knew it was too good to be true. I bought a pair of the Epiphany Bantam Towers for ~$200. The two guys had all of the credentials, fedex info, warranty info. etc... The speakers work but they do not sound good at all (they sound like a run of the mill $50 speaker).
DAMNIT: Quick Question. What speakers did you buy and where did they pull you over. I got hit in Parsippany New Jersey. If anyone has had success getting a refund (wishful thinking) on these speakers please let me know. |
mtg |
| Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 09:08 pm: |
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scammed in CT. watch out |
michael weber |
| Posted on Wednesday, April 02, 2003 - 10:14 pm: |
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i have a klh dvd theater system it wont lewt me play rated r dvd no one has set a password.and the password in the book is supposed to be 2001.please help!!!!!!! |
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| Posted on Thursday, April 03, 2003 - 10:50 pm: |
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Did anyone get the license plate number of the white van in operating in the Maryland Virginia Washington DC area? These guys went too far. The police are looking for them. |
SoundDivisionSmoker |
| Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2003 - 09:24 am: |
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Speaker man here.
Why are you saying all of you are being scammed? Aren't you the ones that came looking for a great deal trying to scam a way not spend that much money. The Speakers from the White Van are all legit and high quality speakers if installed correctly. If there is a problem with the speakers there is a three day guarentee as long as you have a receipt. If you dont ask for a receipt for it its your own fault for not asking for one.
Remember you can always say NO. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 11:44 am: |
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I agree. SoundDivisionSmoker is right. Don't get me wrong I dont like getting ripped off and I wouldnt wish it on anyone else, but I think the old "buyer beware" phrase applies here. If you are suspicious about someone selling you speakers out of a van and you go ahead and do it anyway.....well, sorry buddy, but not only can you not really justify complaining about it, but frankly....you had it coming to begin with!
I understand that these days EVERYONE wants the most bang for their buck out there but if you are too "excited" about the thought of premium speakers at an unbelievable price too really "think" before you buy, well then frankly, you got what you deserved.
I dont agree with the way these guys do business, it is misleading, but then again 3/4 of all the salesmens rants in audio/video stores are too.....
And not to step on anyones toes but if you dont even ask for a receipt to return them if youre not happy, well again, you had it coming anyways.
Instead of ranting and raving that you got scammed, THINK BEFORE YOU BUY PEOPLE!!!! |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 02:14 pm: |
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I have seen this scam run in Portland, ME twice in the last few years. Both times the same story... white van, mistakenly overstocked, and these guys want to sell the speakers to make some quick cash. They have merchandising material, order forms, etc.
I have to agree with some others in this forum, though, anyone who has seen these guys in action can obviously tell there is something sketchy going on. They are pushy, in too much of a hurry, and too light on information. If you are foolish enough to buy stuff on the street, out of a van, from two pushy scumbags, then you have only yourself to blame.
Also, anyone who knows the basics of home audio/ theater should be able to tell just from looking at the cabinets and materials that this stuff is junk. Have you ever heard of epiphany speakers?! Its not like these guys were selling klipsch, paradigm, def tech, or any other well known brands. Would you buy a car from a manufacturer that you've never heard of? |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 04:40 pm: |
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i saw an ad in the chicago tribune for this place, it sounded like a good place to work till i went there and checked it out- definitely just a front for a scam. good thing i saw this before i decided to go work there! |
Greg Wood |
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:49 am: |
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I have run into these guys several times in Atlanta, Ga. I have purchased a pair of bantam towers, and a sub from these guys. I told my friend about it and he bought two pairs of these speakers and a tower of subs. The sound is absolutely phenomenal. I have heard tons of speakers in my day, (all of the name brands...for tons more money), and these blow those speakers out of the water. As for those of you who don't think they sound good, you must be complete morons, or are not powering the speakers with a large enough amp. As for those of you who can't get a sound out of the speaker, you simply do not know how to hook the speakers up, and if you can't manage to do that you have no business buying speakers. These guys are 100% legit. Cops can't and won't do anything because they are completely legal. So quit complaining about stupid problems you are having...in most cases you are probably not hooking the speakers up right. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:09 pm: |
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I know where the white vans are from!! Who wants to know? O.K. I tell you they work for a company called Vision Ventures, or Sound Design, Or sound Divsion. I know because I worked there for 1 day and realized what they were doing so I never went back. It's a scam, trust me I know.
The address is 11700 Wormer, Redford Michigan. The phone number is 1-313-255-8110 ask for Larry he's the boss. It's a red building with no address on it, if you go there at about 8:00-9:00 p.m. you will see the vans. I promise |
Epiphany sucks |
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:21 pm: |
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This is the address of these fuc*ers in the white vans 11700 Wormer, Redford Michigan. The phone number is 1-313-255-8110. The building has no address on it but it the second building on the right side of Wormer if you turn off of Plymouth road. Go to the side of the building and look though a fence and you'll see 6 white vans. Hop the fence and fu*ck them up if you want. Ask for Larry he's the boss. Or ask for Matt, Chuck, Ian, Jade, Ann, Phil, Chris, Corey, that's about every who works there, fu*ck them up too. They deserve it. They start work at 8:00a.m. and get off around 8:00-9:00p.m. for real, all this true, trust me!!!!!!! |
Epiphany sucks |
| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 10:28 pm: |
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If you want to get back at these fu*ckers in the white vans give this info to every you can. the address is 11700 Wormer, Redford Michigan. The number is 1-313-255-8110. I know because I worked there for 1 day and realized it was a scam. Let's bust these pu*ssy's and get your loot back. I'm loading my 9mm right now, happy hunting, P.S. shoot to kill!!! |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 12:15 pm: |
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you are the reason why we need gun control. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 01:12 pm: |
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Epiphany sucks....you need therapy. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 02:52 pm: |
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I got scammed too yesterday in the of best buy at Gaithersburg, MD. I bought the Bantan Towers, and paid $240 for them. they were in a SUV, young lady and a young guy. the only thing i got from them was a phone # 240-882-2687
i need help anyone who could track a phone # please
Watch out!!! they in SUVs now. |
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| Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 03:22 pm: |
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Everybody what do we have and know about these guys....
1. Usually in front Home Depot or Best buy
2. Driving on SUVs and white Trucks
3. Usually in two
4. Always in a hurry to close the sale
5. Same story line craps....
6. Selling fake Audio Home System
7. They have network all over the United States
What can we do to stop them.
are you going to try to convince yourself to accept the fact that you have been scam or you want to fight back and get those f***kers busted.
what clues do you have.
I have a Maryland phone number one of them gave me by mistake to help them close the sale # 240-882-2687
can anybody get a track on that...
an address...
anything..... |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 03:59 pm: |
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Yes this is a scam in the sense that they are misleading people into thinking they are getting a premium deal, but are they doing anything illegal. I dont think so. It is already so widely known about that if it was illegal the police would have stopped them already. Im not saying your cause is unworthy, but really the only thing we can do to stop these guys is to inform everyone you know about it and simply dont buy from them. The only reason they keep coming back is because they keep finding suckers to pull one over. So stop buying people and start informing yourselves and everyone else you know about them. End of story. |
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| Posted on Friday, April 11, 2003 - 10:02 pm: |
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How can i find the phone number to Epiphany Solo Limited / Holographic Imaging System? |
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| Posted on Monday, April 14, 2003 - 09:30 pm: |
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Well, I just got hit in Rochester Hills Michigan. To be honest with you, when I first started reading, I got angry, but the more I think about it, the more I wish to get into contact with these people to try to find employment. Scooterx14@aol.com Epiphany, lemmie know......I bought them today, April 14, 2003. |
SanjayChadda |
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 10:53 am: |
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I just have a simple msg. for these punks......"Im gonna f@#!k you @(#$ up!! dont let me catch you around NJ! Ill be watching for you at the Shell station! the Home Depot!! or anywhere else I can think of!!" Now I feel a little better. |
Mike Australya |
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 04:42 pm: |
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Just got hit up by them today in Atlanta, GA near the home depot. They tried to pull me over saying they had to dump some home theater equipment before they did a delivery.
Luckily I have heard of this scam before, as I had a friend who bought a pair.
To be honest, it does look very legit and could fool most people. White van has a “SoundVision” logo on the back, both guys are wearing company ID tags, etc. But I was immediately on to their game as they were trying to pull me over driving besides me doing 30 down the road…...
“If it looks to good to be true, it probably is” |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 05:10 pm: |
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As PT Barnum said.."There's a sucker born every minute", anyone who buys anything from the back of a truck deserves what they get..Which is usually the shaft... |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 05:57 pm: |
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Greg Wood..... What kind of speakers and sub did you buy and how in the hell did you hook them up? |
joesmith |
| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2003 - 06:58 pm: |
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Sunday, April 13, 2003 - 05:36 pm
A friend of mine is saying that
Paradigm Monitor 90P's,
centre Paradigm CC370,
surround/rear Paradigm ADP 370's.....
hooked up to a Denon 2803 (has something called a hammerhead????) is
a superb sound system for both music and home theatre?
Any comments on these goods. I understand that both are very good
products and put higher $$$ stuff to shame?
joesmith |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 11:08 pm: |
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i bought a sub from you today and i like it very much works great. the wood box alone is worth the money i payed
i want a job with you guys
the ny hookup |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 11:55 pm: |
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Anyone know if there's a wharehouse in or near Madison WI for the SoundiVision guys in the white van? |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 08:41 pm: |
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Look people.
The company of these fucks in the white vans is called SOUND VISION. The company is pretty much illegal. (They ran an ad in the local newspaper saying I could make $400-1000 a week) So I go apply) I quit after my first day. These people are insane. What they do is order these "3000$" speakers for 89$ each then load up a certain amount of them into a white truck and make up bullshit stories and chase you down, trying to give you a deal. Now from what I saw all the boxes were sealed, so they are selling new items, however the forms you fill out are bogus. It has to be illegal. Anyway, they put license plates on the vans and as soon as you buy something they take them right off, so you cant write them down. Again the company is called SOUND VISIONS. If they try to sell you something, I wouldn't take it because they will hustle every last $ out of your wallet. I quit because of the GREED. It was just SICK! |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 09:16 am: |
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they are in new jersey again.... I got hit on thursday april 17 2003 They are in a white chevy tahoe with nj plates they got me in the shop rite plaza in ramsey remember me i'm in the blue dodge ram.......... the golf course guy all u guys are on tape at shop rite the own is a member of the golf club and as smart as you guys are most golfers are high profile people at the club i have 4 police cheifs and the owner of the bank that we got the money from i have ur photos everwhere.... and ur vechiles on tape at 3 locations shop rite and the bank and the storage place u guys are fu...cked ....... All i want is my money back $240.00 if i get it back you guys are on your marry way.. if not trust me u will be caught...... u can just drop the money for at the proshop at ramsey golf and country club and say to give to the guy in the blue dodge ram................... |
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| Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 09:23 am: |
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Guys u are Fu cked I have all your information included the guy that came with me into the bank in ramsey.......nj.... All ur vehicle info everything ..... i want my money .....back now $240.00 drop it where i told u to asap and nothing will be done on my part if not action will take place... you guys sold ur sh it to the wrong guy ........ and the storage place also has u on camara ....... drop it a ramsey golf club ............ tell them the guy in the blue trucks money........ |
Vaughn Stewart |
| Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2003 - 12:16 pm: |
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Everyone,
I got took yesterday outside of Lansing Michigan, and I got my money back today (minus a small cut).
These guys are located at:
SounDivision
a.k.a. Vision Ventures
11700 Wormer Street
Redford, Michigan 48239
Contact: Larry Kaiser
313-255-8110
My sales guy / van driver was Matt. He’s about 22-ish 5’11” ~ 160lbs. His cell phone number is 630-776-0092.
I called tyhe office and began to leave a message when he answered. I told him that I neded to meet him because one of my speakers was defective. He agreed to meet and at that time I asked for my money back. I got a song and dance on how he couldn’t do that, so I told him that I’d make it worth his while for time and his partner. I gave them $50 each and received the other $400 back!
Or you could just show up at the address above at around 8:00 - 9:00 and get physical!
File a report with the FOX 2 PROBLEM SOLVERS!
http://www.fox2detroit.com/
Let's shut these f*cks down!
Good luck!
Vaughn |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, April 24, 2003 - 10:54 am: |
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I just bought a pair of H3's last night in front of the best buy in toledo Oh, i am from MI. bought 2 H3's for 100.00... havnt heard them yet but i do have a different phone number for you if you need to b*tch them out... 313-610-6661... this is the number the kid asked me to call to verify the price of these.. luckily i only had 100 on me and they were skittish, so worse case scenario, il use the nice cabinets to put quality speakers in...hope this number helps those that are miffed!!! PLEASE LET ME KNOW...
thanks
Concerned in MI
SounDivision
a.k.a. Vision Ventures
11700 Wormer Street
Redford, Michigan 48239
Contact: Larry Kaiser
313-255-8110 |
clown vomit |
| Posted on Monday, April 28, 2003 - 11:37 pm: |
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I like it big and thick |
GEORGIA RUBE |
| Posted on Tuesday, April 29, 2003 - 08:43 pm: |
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GOT FLAGGED DOWN ON PEACHTREE STREET IN BUCKHEAD
(ATLANTA)BY A COUPLE OF WPOD'S IN A
WHITE CHEVY VAN THIS AFTERNOON.VERY CONVINCING SALES TECHNIQUE,I SPENT $200 ON A PAIR OF EPIPHANY C4 TOWER SPEAKERS.THEY WERE ABOUT TO TALK ME INTO BUYING THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.I FEEL LIKE I WAS LUCKY TO WALK AWAY WITH LUNCH MONEY. WHETHER OR NOT THE SPEAKERS WORK IS IRRELEVANT.THIS IS THE KIND OF CRAP THAT IS MAKING ME AN ANGRY, CYNICAL, BITTER SUMBICH. THE TAG NUMBER IS GA 3232ABW VAN# 0302 |
Look out!! |
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 12:04 pm: |
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FYI...
I've been following this post for a while now, and while i have not been suckered by the "white van bandits", i do feel for you guys. Anyways, if any of you are from the New York City area, FOX 5 Problem Solvers are doing a story tonight (4/30) on the 10 o'clock news about some dudes selling junk out of a white van. Might be the same guys...thought i'd pass on the info. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 12:27 pm: |
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Georgia Rube Worote, "I FEEL LIKE I WAS LUCKY TO WALK AWAY WITH LUNCH MONEY. WHETHER OR NOT THE SPEAKERS WORK IS IRRELEVANT.THIS IS THE KIND OF CRAP THAT IS MAKING ME AN ANGRY, CYNICAL, BITTER SUMBICH. THE TAG NUMBER IS GA 3232ABW VAN# 0302"
WOuls you listen to yourself weather they work or not. Have you even tried them yet? Why did you buy them then? It's people like you who keep these people in business. A fool an his/her money are soon parted. |
Edwin Garcia |
| Posted on Wednesday, April 30, 2003 - 10:38 pm: |
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Man, I started this thread last year and can't believe how many other people have been taken by these a$$hole$. Anyhow I just finished watching the Problem Solver special on Fox 5. They didn't show the address where located but the number on the building was 192. The manager name who claimed made about a quarter million last year on sales is Josh and can't remember his last name. Sales guy in the white van tried to give the same old bull about extra stock. Had t-shirt on with SoundVision on back. All I can say is stay away from this garbage. I still have my Epiphany system collecting dust in my garage. Still brand new. |
Chivelfeyr |
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 12:32 am: |
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Yeap, I saw that too on the news.
One of the problem solvers' team went undercover for a job interview at the place and was greeted by the manager in a T-Shirt and non-business casual civilian clothing. No interviewer I've ever come across for a job was ever dressed like that. 
That place they showed looked like a garage house or an old storage facility. More like something I would expect to see out in Iraq in the desert .
If they really did have excess stock in their facility that they were trying to sell off anyway they could, that tells me, right off the bat, that their crap must not be selling worth a damn, an automatic discouragement from purchasing for me.
If I see Klipsch or Bose on a set of speakers, I know I'm probably looking at a hell of a good set. I have a Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Audio System for my Computer System which I bought from Best Buy back in January for around $200. After riggin' 'em up and giving them a field test, I knew within the first 2 minutes that my father was definitely right when he recommended the Klipsch brand to me.
I already have below 10% of trust for strangers as a result of the many times I was stupid enough in years past to fall for childish tricks and other stuff. Unless I see a trusted business name and a legitimate logo that's been known for great quality, my money is staying in my wallet if I can help it.
Buying from the infamous white van is a gamble. You might get a bargain deal or a pile of junk which I refer to as an anti-bargain. In my honest opinion, the white van crap is not worth the gamble, especially when the prices exceed $100. |
Chivelfeyr |
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 02:38 am: |
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I visited the Epiphany web site for a good laugh.
Here's what Epiphany wrote on their "About Us" section on their web-site. Have a good laugh. If you saw the Problem Solvers deal on Fox 5, you should get a kick out of this .
Epiphany concentrates solely on the audio business. Driven by an obsession for absolute quality of sound reproduction. Epiphany maintains an exceptionally strong commitment to research. This is complimented by Epiphany' dedication to pride and craftsmanship, as the products are equally appealing for both their aesthetic and sonic merits.
[quote from Epiphany Site]It is more then just research. Our goal is excellence in everything we do. From the way we run our business to our customer service. Outstanding is merely a starting point. Our search for better and more exciting products continues and the results of our efforts can be seen on this site. To maintain our position at the forefront of the home entertainment industry. Epiphany products simply offer incredible performance at competitive price points. So sit back, relax and enjoy the sudden realization of what you were missing.
epiphany@empiremail.com[endofquote]
Here's the actual link to that area of the site. http://store.yahoo.com/epiphanyaudio/info.html
If you didn't click on it, I'd understand. It about made me wanna barf all over the floor.
Apparently, according to what I saw on Fox News, they (Epiphany company) can't even spell Tweeter right. One of the Problem Solvers' guys pulled the cover off of one of the speaker towers and saw that Tweeter was spelled Twerter on the speaker system .
I aint no marketing professional. But, you certainly don't have to be a Scotland Yard Detective or a Rocket Scientist to know that most successful Speaker systems are sold IN a Best Buy and not in a Van outside of Best Buy . |
epiphony |
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 09:54 am: |
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pretty funny .. i tried to order the C4s for $1,369 .. entered my credit card info (hehe) and here's the response:
"Epiphany is not open for business.
Ordering is allowed for testing purposes only."
Yeah .. I want to buy stock in this company. LOL |
Vivendo e aprendendo ! |
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 01:13 pm: |
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Quando encontrei este site eu fiquei tao irado que deu vontade de jogar o speaker pela janela (do segundo andar) mas nao to querendo ficar com o prejuizo entao decidi colocar na caixa denovo pq "zoiao" nesse mundo e' oque nao falta e pra eu passar o speaker pra frente vai ser so' questao de tempo. Acredite ou nao estou louco pra encontrar esses carinhas da van novamente. Socar nao da pq acabo indo em jail mas vou ter prazer em xingar e colocar pra correr. A gente ainda se tromba seus filhos da put@ ! ATL, GA. |
Esperto |
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 03:19 pm: |
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Eu que não vou comprar! |
Esperto |
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 03:22 pm: |
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O mundo é solidário, um "zoiao" ajuda o outro! |
Vivendo e aprendendo. |
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 07:12 pm: |
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Da pra acreditar que agora eu fico olhando e procurando as vans pela rua ? Se eu trombar com uma delas vai ficar pequeno. Se eles vierem me oferecer denovo vai ficar menor ainda. Sera que um esquema desse no Brasil daria certo ? |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 07:24 pm: |
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VC é de Atlanta? |
Chivelfeyr |
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 04:31 am: |
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They have an additional web-site at http://www.cypressaudio.com/ . The site looks damned near identical to the Epiphany web-site and the About Us Mission Statement is identical.
http://store.yahoo.com/cypressaudio/info.html |
Vivendo e aprendendo. |
| Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2003 - 02:21 am: |
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Yes, Im from Atlanta. |
Dan Spytek |
| Posted on Monday, May 05, 2003 - 09:01 pm: |
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Hey, thanks a lot to the people who have posted messages, and the ecoustics.com people who host this bulletin board. I got scammed today by these dirtbags. Then I went back and found them to get my money back. They were in a parking lot a mile away from where they got me. They'll give your money back if you ask them. |
Dan Spytek |
| Posted on Tuesday, May 06, 2003 - 01:56 am: |
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epiphany sunami subwoofer deal satellite speakers
just throwin some keywords in, to make the site easier to search for. I hope we can keep some others from geting screwed. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 02:40 am: |
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Chicago Illinois. Ashland and Irving park may 8 2003. these dirtbags pulled it off on me, I am going to Lombard tomorrow morning and looking for someone to smoke. watch out and be weary, and if you "delivery guys" read this, you better hope and pray you never cross my way again. If anybody knows anything that can help me get my cash back please e-mail me. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 06:50 am: |
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just ask for your money back .. they have to refund if you're not satisfied. |
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| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 05:38 am: |
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Can't E-mail you without your e-mail address. Here is the info on all the companies who sell speakers using the white van speaker scam and how to contact them.
http://www.scamshield.com/Help.asp?id=4
Find your local distributer under the brand of speaker.
Give'em Hell!!! Good Luck. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 11:59 am: |
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This is an extremely OLD scam. I was taken by these clowns back in 1988 in Atlanta when I was a lot younger and very naive. What's amazing is that this scam continues to take people of their hard earned dollars every day. I'm amazed that the various state attorney generals haven't shut these guys down by now for fraud. You have to wonder what is the source of their network.
I got a little satisfaction after I quickly learned that I had been scammed. A week later, a second white van and a different couple of guys tried to do the same thing. When I told them to hold on, I started to call the police on my cell phone (I had one back then). I've never seen two guys peel out of a parking lot so fast. |
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| Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 09:10 pm: |
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Anyone in the Atlanta area that got f*cked by this please contact me and let find these people together. I have seen them in the same area before. I also have the tag # 3232 ABW #0302 I have some friends that can get me the info of where they are working out of. |
marco |
| Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 08:34 pm: |
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they approach me today in the jewel plaza Waukegan IL. Same story, same minivan: the system worth $1500, i need to sell the speaker and i will put the rest on ebay (why?) , you're cool and i'm giving to you almost for free. etc etc. the answer was i'm not interested try someone else. @ best buy or circuit city you find good deals with not to much money, and if you are not satisfied you can bring the products back. |
Luce |
| Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 06:27 pm: |
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I was just stopped as I was walking out of The Citzens Bank on the corner of Torrey and Thompson Rd in Fenton, Mi, just after I had cashed my paycheck. Two young guys (I'm 19 myself) stopped in a white van and told me they had some speakers to sell because they were extra from a wrong invoice. They were selling the Epiphany Series speakers. Only one guy got out and the other sat in the passenger seat and looked on. Must have been a trainee. This guy was pretty slick, but he could have sold himself better. But the guy had the nerve to ask me "How much cash do you have one you?". He kept putting his hand on my shoulder like he was my best bud. He told me that he would give them to me for cheap and if I kept a set for myself and sell the rest, hence basically making my purchase *free*. But it seemed way too shady to me. Because even if these speakers DID all they said they did, why, oh why, would you buy any type of equipment from a two guys in a van??? It just seems all to coincidental that they caught me on a Friday, around 5 o'clock, leaving a bank. To much in common with money for my likings, I told him "no thanks", (which took a lot more than those two words to get him off my back) and decided to check out these speakers online. I feel sorry for the people who bought these speakers for hundreds of dollars when they can get a decent 700watt complete surround sound system from sam's club for $250.00. It just seemed all to fishy that they didn't have a phone number, website, uniforms, ID badges, a name on the van, and that the lines were so practiced, they looked bored saying them. Besides, they were in a damn van for pete's sake!! A WHITE VAN!!! I hope people will find this site and the word will spread about this company and its tag lines. I am going to call the Journal and talk to a reporter and let them know about the scam/story. Later Folks. |
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 11:56 pm: |
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I just bought an Ephiphany SubWoofer,and and Sunnami Series/2 speakers and home speaker system in Duluth, GA, from a Tahoe, with Jersey Tags, I got driver's liscense everything,tag, vehicle ID, one of the guys was named Ken, the other one was named Ted, or Tim, I have all their infor. Hope it all works, I have a mailing address on West Paces Ferry if any one needs it in Atlanta, and they have problems. janiegee@hotmail.com Put Ephiphany Subwoofer in the subject line |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 02:10 pm: |
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i havea problem with surround sound setting..the speakers are hooked up correctly they work fine on "hall" setting)..but on surround, the two back speakers do not work....any suggestions would be appreciated....JUDGEENDOJESS@AOL.COM |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 03:54 pm: |
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I worked at the Dallas Soundivision for less than 2wks, the dumbest thing ever. Well I got their phone number if you have a problem call them 972-358-5354 |
HyKlas |
| Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 07:33 pm: |
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These guys followed my mom's boyfriend here from the local supermarket today. I've known about this for a few years now so that was the first thing I asked them. They denied everything obviously. Anyway, we didn't buy them. I'm just informing the Michigan crew that these guys are running around in a new tan Suburban with Jersey plates. Keep your wallet in your pocket. |
HyKlas |
| Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 07:34 pm: |
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Though if you get a chance to buy the girl that they were with... Do it. |
local girl |
| Posted on Saturday, June 14, 2003 - 12:52 pm: |
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These clowns stopped me yesterday in Chicago. All of you should be wary of two guys selling speakers out of a plain white van anyway. Hope this message gets out to more people in the area. When it seems you are getting too good of a deal you probably are. So dont be a sucker! |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 08:42 pm: |
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Got me. Still trying to recover emotionally and financially. Happened in March 2003, Danbury Fair Mall parking lot, CT. What the heck do I do with these now? They take up space, and I paid too much to just throw them away. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 12:41 pm: |
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got me in Silver Spring, MD seen them at least 3 times before so ill see them again im sure...they are always by my school UMD so ill find them and kick some but...but the H3 speakers sound pretty good...better than some of my sony's but i doubt they will last that long....the casing is pretty nice looking, and the box is lined with padding to prevent rattling....need to reseal the rear port, but they look like after market speakers...so we'll c....looks like they bought the speakers in bulk and along with seperate generally built but nicely looking casings....probably could have built the same set for the price i paid....gonna take the beat i-p-i-fany tag or whatever it says off....prolly couldnt have purchased all the pieces, being that 2 10" subs would cost around $150 min and the casings wouldve taken up another $50 so the speakers and tweaters cost me $40, indiviually for the price i paid -$240 worse case scenario is I parts the whole unit and pass the subs off to another system or donate them to salvation army for tax credit...prolly get more than i paid |
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| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 12:09 pm: |
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I bought some speakers from 2 guys in the mysterious "white van", but I also got a web address for the company it is "www.epiphanyaudio.biz" |
pg |
| Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 03:55 pm: |
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man, these guys really get around, don't they.... |
sniffy |
| Posted on Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 07:43 pm: |
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For all those that are going to kick the "white van guys'" butts, please video tape and post
Epiphany is not open for business.
Ordering is allowed for testing purposes only. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 01:12 am: |
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I feel so bad for all you stupid, stupid suckers... |
Danalog |
| Posted on Monday, June 23, 2003 - 07:59 pm: |
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Hey, I work in the pro-audio industry and just moved to Nashville. I saw a job listing the paper looking for help to work for an audio company opening up. I called the toll free number (866-293-2263) and they are called Soundivision and listed offices in Chicago, Atlanta, NJ, and now Nashville (including directions to the offices.) I couldn't find any info on the company until I was driving down Broadway and these two guys in a white van said,"You wanna buy a home theatre system, right now?" I told them to bugger off, and as they drove away I saw the company logo for "Soundivision." Anyway, there's the number if anyone wants to call..."for a job," ha, ha! |
J.Ortiz |
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 10:14 am: |
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Hey,Guys I just bought a Epiphany Home Theater System from thesame white van for $300. The same story they asked me for extra money for beers pease tell you frends becarfull with guys. |
Robbed |
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 08:58 pm: |
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Dang, just happened to me. Three kids in a white van blah blah, nothing but punks. Same shpill extra money for beers, taking my band to europe... bang. They got me. One of the kids looks foreign maybe brazilian the other two plain punks. Stay away from my neiborhood. Seems like they are all over Atlanta, look after them. Every Home Depot, Lowes, Mall, parking lots... whatever you are on my radar. If anybody has a licence plate, video anything... take this to the media, people need to know. Rip off. Peace and learn from this POS. |
Gotcha |
| Posted on Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 09:25 pm: |
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Anybody in the Atlanta area....
here is their address and phone number.
SounDivision
1710 Chattahoochie Ave. NW
Atlanta, GA 30318-2112
Phone: (404) 355-6153
Its a known scam....... check the link below.
http://www.scamshield.com/Help.asp?id=4 |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2003 - 12:27 pm: |
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Saw the guys in Nashville yesterday (6/24) around 6:00 in the Kroger parking lot at Nolensville Rd. and Old Hickory Blvd. They gave me the same story about extra inventory in the van and they were on their way to a delivery so they were in a big hurry. Fortunately we didn't make the purchase, but they weren't particularly pushy about it. They asked $400 for a sub-woofer and the 5 satellite speakers, but I don't know what they would have taken for them. |
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| Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2003 - 09:02 am: |
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just to clear things up about the 2 pairs of speaker connectors in the back, they are fir BI-aplification. You can use a tuner that has this feature to power the "sub" and tweaters seperately. Lots of high end speakers have this feature. |
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| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 08:38 pm: |
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HyKlas - Yeah, the girls are for sale. We get them "free" too. Make an offer. They LOVE us. Why? We have balls. SELLOUT!
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| Posted on Sunday, June 29, 2003 - 09:26 pm: |
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They are singing about a white van in Music City...
Looks like I'm not the only one to fall for the white van, extra inventory story. Complete with the "little extra for beer money" line. Haven't had time to hook up the system, so I can't comment on the quality of it yet. These guys pulled up beside me in Hermitage, TN (near Nashville), on Mt. Juliet Road. They wanted $550+ for the system. Went to the bank and got $320 for the 6-speaker Holographic Surround system.
Felt confident the equipment wasn't stolen, but it sounds like it is definitely lower-end. I'll sell the whole system for $250...with another $20 thrown in for beer money....... |
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| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 03:39 pm: |
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A working asociate and I met at a Mcdonald's in Irondale, Al. These guys in a white van with a New Jersey plate asked if we wanted to buy a set of high quality home speakers. They had a cut sheet saying they sold for $1469.00 retail. They suckered me in on a set for $260. Had to go to bank machine to get money. After I purchased the tower speakers, they offered to sell me a sub for the speakers. I offered $100 but they would not take it and sped off to Olive Garden to ask someone else. I was very puzzled when I realized that they said that they were from Atlanta, but had a New Jersey tag. Guess I'll learn one day |
Speaker Guy |
| Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 11:26 pm: |
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I'm working the Atlanta area myself and we are changing from white vans to white SuV's...so watch out...we're coming for ya! |
DaMan |
| Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 09:24 pm: |
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It was my turn about an hour ago. Leaving Micro Center on Paces Ferry and was approached by a guy that jumped out of a maroon SUV. He said he was going to deliver an expensive sound system to a customer down the street and his boss had put an extra system in the back and he was going to unload it for some cash. He showed me the slick for the speakers $1495. and was willing to take $300.. He put it in the back of my SUV and jumped in so I could drive him to the bank. I called my wife on the way and asked her to look at the web site and see if there were any local resellers. She confirmed that the site existed but couldn’t find resellers. I questioned him and was told that it was professional equipment that is not sold retail. I asked about the power rating of the speaker and got a vague answer so I opened the box and the speakers said 35 watts. I said I was looking for 80-100watts per channel and he said “you don’t know much about speaker, Bose are only 15 watts each”. That was all I needed to hear. I told him I had to wait for my wife to call me back before I could get the money out of the bank. He said he couldn’t wait and got the stuff out of my car and took off. Lucky Me….
To my fellow Atlanta citizens: If you see them, call the police. If they don’t get arrested, they will at least know they are not welcome.
To the Speaker Guys: You have a good sales technique but I can’t imagine you will tell you children, if you ever have any, how you make a living. What comes around, goes around…. I hope you enjoy coaching little league. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 10:29 pm: |
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Just got taken an hour ago in the Northwest suburbs of Chicago for a pair of Bantam Towers. Found this website almost as soon as I got them out of the box and thought their literature looked phony. Tried them out and I want to get my money back. |
vp |
| Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 04:17 pm: |
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I just saw a fleet of 30 or 40 white vans and SUV's headed into downtown Atlanta.....look out guys. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 02:51 am: |
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My little brother just got suckered today in the Home Depot parking lot of Powell in Nashville. I went back to get his money, but they drove off. I feel so bad for the kid, they took him for everything he had. |
Guy |
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 02:52 am: |
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I saw them in Nashville too, but they're not in a white van anymore. These guys were in a Tahoe rental car from Armada. |
Amish Bill |
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 11:19 am: |
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Yep... just met up with "The White Van" myself.
Stopped at a red light on my way into Atlanta this white van pulls up and the driver says that they deliver these for a living and they were just given a "Home Theater" system for free. Do I want to buy it cheap? It's a $4000 system! I say no thanks and pull away.
A little further up the road I'm pulling out of the bank and they pull around through the teller lanes and I heard the driver telling the passenger to ask me again. I looked into the cargo area while laughing my head off and saw the boxes... The packaging just screamed "I'm Cheap Off-Shore Crap Packaged Up in faux-Impressive Boxes!" (I recognized the stereotype from buying cheap off-shore computer components)
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ps.. total of 3 twenty-something white(ish) guys in the van. |
AnonADude |
| Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2003 - 04:02 pm: |
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Like P.T. Barnum said, "A sucker born every minute". I'm glad I don't have "Stupid" written on my forehead. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, July 11, 2003 - 09:23 am: |
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I got duped 6 years ago by these guys in Orlando, if anyone has addresses on them please post, I need to take $300 out of their arsses. |
MTSU |
| Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 06:30 am: |
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There is a guy and girl in their 20's in Murfreesboro TN. They are pitching that same my boss line. I got their boss for them if I see them again, him and her both. You better believe that. They are in a black 2003 Tahoe!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 10:54 am: |
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please send video tape footage |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 12:25 pm: |
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I bought a tr-5210 theater research speakers system,from a passer.I try to get intell on this product,but is unable to find anything.Is there any way of knowing if this product is not boguss or not. |
Dan |
| Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 02:26 pm: |
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What I don't understand is that a few posters here actually let the "salesman" get in their cars with them! Why on earth would you do that? For all you know they want to mug/carjack/maim you.
And yes, I fell for this in May 1998 when I was packing up after graduating from college. My brand of speakers was Acoustic Response. They actually work very well, but I need to see if I still have the spec sheet so I can tell if they could be hooked up safely to my new receiver.
Honestly, I bought them because I thought it would be a great story. I mean, speakers out of the back of a van? Come on. To me, it was worth $200 to tell people the story. |
Relieved, but still skeptical |
| Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 03:24 pm: |
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My husband just purchased a pair of "Epiphany" speakers from, yep, you guessed it.....two guys in a white van in New Jersey. When he told me this, I immediately went on the internet and found this website. He hooked them up to our stereo, and if you can believe it....they work, and they work great. Maybe we're just the lucky 1,000 customer or something. I believe he has learned his lesson, though.....if it seems to good to be true, then it probably is. |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 04:18 pm: |
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i heard the guys in the white van have a bet going to see how many posts they can get on this thread! |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 09:44 am: |
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I also purchased the TR-5210 Home Theater. I have not yet tried the speakers. This was in Phoenix Arizona. Does anyone know the wiring sequence or have an existing wiring diagram? |
Ask for a Receipt |
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 01:52 pm: |
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All of you crack me up. Especially the people who write all of the time and apparently don't have lives. The only reason I came to this website is to let everyone know that I bought the new cypress system from two guys in a white van in Atlanta,Ga. They work great!!! If you don't even take them out of the box, then how do you know that they don't work and that it is a scam. And it is also funny how some of you say they work for right now. If they work, they work. What do you think it going to happen? That they are on some kind of timer and in 10 days, they are going to explode. Also,they will give a receipt if you ask for one and it is your fault if you don't ask. Even if you are at your local grocery store or gas station, you should always ask for a receipt. If for some reason you hook them up right and you do have a faulty system, then sh*t happens. Why do you think stores have return and exchange policies? Sometimes, a faulty system is accidently distributed. Also, if you are still unsure, ask them to hook it up before you buy it. They did that for me. |
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| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 10:03 pm: |
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Yes....I got scammmed to in Atlanta, Ga., but we can fight back and put these guys in prison. Call your local F.B.I office and report the incident and also call the I.R.S. The F.B.I number in Atlanta is 404-679-9000. Please call and report these guys. Jason C. Taylor is the ring leader in Atlanta. His number is 678-427-2550 cell phone, 404-352-8575 office. One of their companies is Acme Supply , Inc. Jason C. Taylor is the registered agent for this company that is based out of Florida. This scam crosses state lines and therefore the F.B.I will be interested. The I.R.S can get them for tax evasion. There is a hotline to call to report them. Check your local phone books. There address in Atlanta is 1710 Chattahoochee Ave N.W suite 102. They have several vans, the tag numbers are 3234 ABW, 3237 ABW and some others. Sometimes they park their vans outside and it is in a secluded area. Drive by and throw a rock throw the windows. The username above is my Email address for any questions...check out the website WWW. scamshield.com |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 10:31 pm: |
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I have these guys personal tag numbers from their personal cars. If u guys wanna track down these punks in Atlanta....Just let me know and I will post them.....Wouldn't it be fun to go to their houses....... |
Anonymous |
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 10:31 pm: |
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I have these guys personal tag numbers from their personal cars. If u guys wanna track down these punks in Atlanta....Just let me know and I will post them.....Wouldn't it be fun to go to their houses....... |
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