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idiot#2818912383 Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 07:11 pm: |
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Scratch one more idiot. I bought a pair in England. Managed to get him (long grey hair, 'tash) down to £160.
Ill say it again. Im an idiot.
Don't know what to do with them now. Might just dump them somewhere in the street. |
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david_50 Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 05:51 pm: |
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Same in lincoln park/lakeview chicago area ti440 model started at 800 went to 400 i offered 50 bucks he walked away empty handed. i run klipsh and nakamichi in my house need ti like i need another hole in my...... 445pm 12/06/05 |
BirminghamStudent Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 06:45 am: |
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IN Birmingham UK my uni flat mate got dun last week, £160 he paid for them, they got him on the way back from uni, so they probably got a load more kids to buy them aswell...
weve bin running them everyday since (pretty much) and so far theyve bin alrite, through another flatmates decks there ok compared to his reputable 300watt speakers that cost him far more than that., and if they dont break in a week, cant really complain, got what u paid for (ish) just not the awesome bargain you thought, |
pi$$ed off Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 10:12 am: |
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Watch out they're in Cardiff, Wales. American goatee dude and south London scally-I presume from the post above that they're going for students here also as it was by uni that they got me!
Guess its false hope that they are worth much soundwise regardless of the above positive posts |
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| Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 06:02 pm: |
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I just ran into the exact scam....White Van...Double order, "beer money", has only 15 minutes or he looses all his money. I live in the chicago, IL around schaumburg area...My buddy got hit the same day! He had about 5 in the back. I paid 180....anyone try selling on ebay?
Kinda nervous to try...
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| Posted on Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 12:44 am: |
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After working building a friends house from the ground up for over a year, for my bounus I was given a TI-6000T. What a joke, first there was no bar code on the box, nor warranty!! It was sold from a truck by two jerks and they sold two of them for $200 each. I wasn't there or was in the house working so I don't know what they looked like but will find out now that I've found you people. Sent lots of stuff the the page and got a no sender, or what ever back. I spent more time setting those things up than I care to say. They seem heavy with weighted speakers and such, so why can't they work? Lot's of work for just fuff. Must be chain gang stuff from China. Let us stop this crap and contact all the "protectors" of us, the next box may have a bomb in it. Now I know that I'll be on the list. From Calif. |
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| Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 07:27 pm: |
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My husband and I got a TI-440M(speakers) and TI440R(receiver) for christmas. We tried to hook the stuff up and it's not working. We think the reciver is junk. Has anyone ever gotten these things to work correctly?? |
New member Username: Mike234
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| Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 12:19 pm: |
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I bought the TI 440 for 200 for this guy Richard White said he was from Sacramento its pure garbage the reciver looks like its from Toys R Us beware of this scam artist |
New member Username: Bombomchileno
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| Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2006 - 02:28 pm: |
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This happened in long island.. Same white van..They had a lot of speakers in the box called tower speakers and only one box of ti-6000sd made by theater innovations. They stared at 1200 and i wroked my way down to 400 and got it..I hooked this up in ma house and it workd perfectly fine , the sound is awesome ...Guys i think you just have to try hookin this up..Also if ur backspeakers are not working make sure u setup the dvd to sourround syste,m that was the only problem i had..I had these for a month now and my family loves and and so do i..If a got scamed i learned already..Let's keep on moving with ourlives and warn people who we care about, about all these thats out there...u can email me at carchaplin@yahoo.com |
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| Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 05:53 pm: |
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Well, I FINALLY hooked up the 4 satelite and the center speaker from my TI-4000. I got a Sony subwoofer on sale at bestbuy (SAWM500 for $113). The combo sounds good (especially the sub). I got duped, but I guess I got a system that sounds ok for a good price. I have no idea what to do with that non-powered "subwoofer". Too bad, it looks kinda nice... |
bostonguy Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 08:24 am: |
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these clowns were in the everett/madlen,Ma area
on thursday.same white ford van,same junk,same story.....
told him to piss off that he was selling bullshit systems...
loser !!!!! |
bought n paid for Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 05:49 am: |
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Yeah I bet you told them that as they were telling you how smart you are and that you have an eye for quality.
You probably just didn't have the money or bought them and don't want to admit it to us suckers. Why else would you be here, clown? |
Jeff the drunk Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 04:12 pm: |
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Ha ha aint that the truth. Why post here if you haven't been scammed yourself? To protect us? ha ha ha. These threads are as good as Leno, Letterman and Howard Stern. |
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| Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 09:36 pm: |
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LOL, just looking over the list of comments, a friend of mine lent a friend some money for the TI-6000t set(purchased at a store in Orlando, FL orignally.) I'm looking at their site and it's very poorly done with outrageous prices. By the limited details on the system it seems to be around 50-200$ as a new system w/ sub & speakers, never heard of the company before though. I was going to contact the number in the catalog and find out if they are a warehouse or something. As for the guys going around and selling this stuff I find it amazing they are not in jail now. If you get scammed, sucks to be you. |
rockneedsasavior Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 04:32 pm: |
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Some guys just came into the eBay drop-off store where I work. (Hickory Hills, a suburb of Chicago, IL) and they had the TI-6000T speakers. I wanted to sell them, but there were only 2 on eBay. I then Googled "TI-6000T" and this thread came up. We all had a laugh thinking about some of these responses.
He said some guy sold them to his sister out of a van. They got taken. Now I know. |
SOOO F'N PISTD Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 10:51 am: |
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I GOT SCAMMED ON NORTH AVE IN CHICAGO LAST NIGHT FOR $200 BY A GUY IN A FOURUNNER THE ITEM WAS THE TI6000T |
Rodger Lodger Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 08:21 am: |
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About 8 years ago on a highway in New Jersey a van signalled me into a lot and offered to sell speakers "stolen" from a loading dock where everybody was "drunk", etc. I was ashamed that I listened for a minute, instead of 10 seconds. They told me these were a fairly high-end brand sold under a different marque (which actually happens in the US, at least). Of course I didn't buy and I was pissed off they had taken 3 minutes from my life. |
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| Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 04:26 pm: |
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Hauffman way better !!! |
Old Guy Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 08:41 pm: |
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I bought a pair of RAS 3000 speakers from a dude in a van. He said he was an installer and was building out a new night club system, loading dock had given him an extra pair, blah blah blah. I think I paid $50 each. Here's the kicker - this was 25 years ago! Know what - I still have them, they still work. That said, scams are everywhere. Too goo to be true is just that. |
Rastabone Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 07:12 am: |
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Stop lying.
Besides if it was a scam why did you keep them for 25 years. Where's the scam? |
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| Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 03:47 pm: |
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Does anybody feel like they got what they paid for?? If compared to other 400 dollar speakers, how are they?? |
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| Posted on Monday, February 13, 2006 - 10:39 pm: |
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Wow,I just got this sick feeling after reading some of these.A similar thing just happend to me today(02-13-06),like some i wanted to see how much these speakers were onlin.Two guys in a white van pulled up next to me at a red light asking if i wanted these speakers.pulled into a Home Depot to check it out.They wanted $600.00 for two Millenium MTS-2605 speakers.they even showed me a magazine with them listed as $799.00 ea. I haven't even hooked them up yet.I felt it was def odd and very spontaneous of me to even buy into it but they look nice sowe'll see how they work.I'll be sure to post more info after i try em out. |
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| Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 07:43 am: |
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i put the s**t speakers that i stupidly bought on ebay. Felt kinda bad if i was gona try and rip off someone coz now i know exactly what it feels like. I put a seriously marked down price on what I paid. I wrote everything about them that I could. Some guy knew all about this forum and still bought them off me for £100 for the pair (considering I just bought them for £300). He gave me an excellent rating and loves them. Theres nothing wrong with selling them as long as you dont try and rip people off like the speaker f***s did to us. Id still love those guys to try and sell me those speakers again, Im sure itd be the last time they did it. |
Floridian Girl Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 03:12 pm: |
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I need an electronic volume circuit control for the Model TI 440R/TI440M THEATHER INNOVATIONS. I tried the number on the website, but it is only a fax. I faxed several times as well as email. Can anybody help with that spare part ???
Tx |
New member Username: Musicallowb
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 12:52 pm: |
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Theater Innovations….
Okay.
Let me help everybody out here. Whether the sale of these audio products is a scam or not, the bottom line is that the products are TERRIBLE. I have been approached by the guys in the van in front of Circuit City several times. I have a friend who actually purchased a pair of T-1650 speakers from one of these white vans. He was not happy with them after getting them home and trying them for himself, and on a pretty decent system, I might add (Harmon Kardon products. Not the best, but good enough).
I heard them myself, and he asked me to take the speakers apart and check them out. Why, you may ask, would I be qualified to analyze these speakers? Well, I'm a professional audio engineer and musician. I have built speakers myself. And I've checked out Theater Innovations' "website". Here are the posted specs for the T 1650s:
System Features:
400 Watts * High Efficiency 7-Way Design
High-Gloss Piano Lacquer Finish
Max SPL: 100 dB
Custom Crossover Circuitry
True Stereo Imaging
Signal To Noise Ratio: > 90 dB
Channel Separation: 70 dB
Let's break this down real quick:
400 watts 7 way design. There is no such animal as a 7 way design. Why would a speaker separate sound into 7 different crossover frequencies? That's just stoopid on so many levels. I remember back in the day Infinity speakers had these huge speakers that cost thousands of dollars, and they had at most a 4 WAY CROSSOVER!! Do the figgurin'...
High Gloss piano lacquer finish. Looks good from the outside. I'll let you guys know what I see inside in a few days.
Max SPL 100 db. SPL is a measurement used for speakers. Check.
Custom Crossover circuitry. That can mean anything. A $2000 pair of speakers should have a little more detail on their website about the workings of a "custom" crossover. Hmm.
True stereo imaging. Another phrase used to describe speaker performance. Is it true for these speakers? No way.
Signal to noise ratio. Uh...that measurement only applies to electronic equipment, not speakers. Hmmm again.
Channel separation. SPEAKERS DO NOT HAVE CHANNEL SEPARATION!!! That measurement applies to amplifiers, tuners, receivers, etc. NOT SPEAKERS!
So, we have $2300 speakers for sale, online (and at a white van near you), and you can't hear them. So, where are the important specs? Like...oh...FREQUENCY RESPONSE?! CROSSOVER FREQUENCIES?! IMPEDANCE?! RESPONSE CURVES?!
Scam? Judge for yourselves. Go check out other REAL high end speaker websites, such as http://www.nhthifi.com/products/four.html.
These things are laughable, and I haven't even opened them up yet. More to come...
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New member Username: Anyofus
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| Posted on Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 12:51 pm: |
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This scam is going in Allentown, PA. Just an hour ago the guy got me in parking lot and said double order ... and only $400. Luckly i have internet in my PDA phone, i told him i want to check this product in google. I got this forum link in the goole ( innovation SCAM), immediately i told him i do not want to buy. I was thinking of calling the cop but this guy disappreaed very quick.
Thanks to this forum.
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New member Username: Nzmetal
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| Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 11:35 am: |
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hey im from nz visiting london stayin in twickenham i wuz on my way 2 the tube nd some dude ran accross the road from the infomus WHITE VAN!, 2 talk 2 me he said he double orderd speakers the TI1250 nd he wantd 2 flick em off cheap he startd at £900 nd i told him nah 2 much nd that i had no money, i said id give him £200 bcause they looked rather good 2 me, the sick mofo took me back 2 my house and i bought them! i checkd out what they wher worth on line nd found this. FU*K if i see them agin it will b rather intresting! SO BEE ON THE LOOK FOR A YOUNG SHORTISH BALD ENGLISHMAN AND HIS MATE A BIGISH AMERICAN DUDE IN A WHITE TRANSIT VAN! |
New member Username: Bob1812
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| Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2006 - 09:27 pm: |
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One guy white van followed me into my drive way, offered the TI5100 model for $450, payed $200. then day later found this website...Pissed right OFF!!! |
New member Username: Chicago_101
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| Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 11:46 pm: |
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well I got scammed today, two guys pulled up in a light brown suburban with logo shirts on saying soundesing, telling me that there order got cancled at a bulder sight cause the house was not ready yet, yes i fell in for there crap an bought the T1250 both for total $400 and a TI6000 for $250, and they gave me 3 year warrenty with it, lucky for me i got a recipt plus a # to the soundesinge in downersgrove, i called there and spoke to a frank who states he is the manager, told me and my husband to make an appt to come by there and he will show us how the speakers work, but no, i am taking my recipt and the speakers with me and demand my money back and if they don't pay me the cash back then i will call the cops. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
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| Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 11:00 pm: |
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I just see a juggling clown riding a unicycle when I read these. |
Gold Member Username: Project6
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| Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 09:15 pm: |
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I love the revenge plots. |
New member Username: Enogma
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| Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 08:54 am: |
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i got done in Reading, UK. i regretted in the moment i walked in the door. i had paid 200 pounds for two floor speakers that were blantantly not what they said they were. I put them on ebay immediately and then decided to fone the police to report it after seeing this forum. felt better after that.
Next day the police fone me and tell me that the two who sold me these had been arrested before and released without charge because everything added up. on hearing this i thought id see if the speakers were wired up internally, they were. i then realised i could use some unused car speaker wire to see if they work... they do. teh sound quality is good, the bass is good and the build quality is good. for 200pounds out the back of a van im happy.
ive got plans for these.... install car audio speakers, connect to a indoor amplifier (not car amp)and make two 600w RMS beasts. |
New member Username: Enogma
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| Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 09:05 am: |
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wot i didnt say is that they are unamplified and the wires can probably take about 60watts max.
The subwoofer is running of the same signal as the rest of the speakers, but appears to still generate bass well.
im simply looking at the plus side at a embarrasing situation.
Im heavily into my music so the fact these towers are built fairly well leads me to belive they will make a nice base for a indoor sound system to match, if not surpass my cars. |
New member Username: Jimthefrog
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| Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 03:29 pm: |
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So, Enogma, is there any point in contacting the police? And don't ask me what I was thinking, but I ended up getting stung for £500. |
New member Username: Enogma
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| Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 04:21 pm: |
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nah, there is no point really. they cant do much and they seemed to be semi-threatening me with punishment from buying from these people. Yes the concept of buying speakers at a apparently heavily discounted price is suspicious, but is a result of human greed. The situation those people put us in doesnt allow for thought.
i think these speakers are quite good, have you wired yours up? to be honest i dont think they are worth 500, not even 200, but they make a hell of a lot of moderate-high quality noise and appear solidly built (i had a peak inside both the sub and main compartents to the tower). judging by the hesitence of the sellers to accept 200 i was not far off the whole thing becoming unprofitable for them. did u get hte 1250s? |
New member Username: Jimthefrog
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| Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 03:14 pm: |
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Yep, TI-1250. How bad can they be? I was thinking of keeping them - I bought the speakers because I've long thought about getting a nice sound system, but not for a few years yet - but I don't yet have the other necessaries (leads, amps, etc) and I can't be bothered to get them yet (I've already spent quite enough money!), so I think I'll try to sell them to someone. |
New member Username: Enogma
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| Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 04:47 pm: |
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u can get the leads quite cheap from halfords or somewhere, im using wires from halfords. i havent amped em up yet but even so they make one hell of an amount of noise. In all honesty id keep em if i was in ur shoes. someone in work came up with a idea that these speakers are actually worth a significant amount, the quality of build and sound suggests so. Obviously its ur money but i would suggest not selling. THe negative side ist hat if you were to amp em up i dont think ud get the most out of em without re-wiring them. i think all speakers combined are 300watts peak, but not RMS, the wires are to skinny. |
New member Username: Hit_man
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| Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 01:47 pm: |
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Our son a student at De Montfort University, Leicester got scammed for £360 in early April for a pair of T1-1250 speakers by a very pushy white van man right outside the uni! Cheeky b*****d even persuaded our son to take him back to his digs to show him that they worked! Well, one did as the other's box was still sealed. He even gave him the web site to check out; which of course it did complete with all the spec and photos! Then the shiester accompanied him to the bank for the cash. It's his own fault he's 19 and very green but decent and honest and only bought them in error with the best intentions for a project being built at home. But here's the rub; on that very same day on e-bay a pair of identical speakers were being offered for auction with exactly the same information, internet photo, and strangely one box sealed and the other open just as white van man's.When we asked the seller a simple question that evening about them they were removed instantly with the explanation that the listing was ending early as they were lost or broken.Coincidence or what!!!If this is you and you're based in Crewe just be careful when crossing the road. The net is closing in........... STUDENTS ESPECIALLY BEWARE.
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New member Username: Dumb_student
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 09:04 am: |
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Im a student in Nottingham Universtiy. I got 'scammed' for £150 for one of these TI-1250 speakers. Not sure if it works yet as I havent got the leads but the dodgy londeners were very pushy. Im 22 and fell a bit stupid for buying them but I reported it to the police and trading standards. Looks like they're doing a circuit around the UK, Portsmouth, Reading, Leicester, Nottingham.
My advice is, don't buy stuff out of the back of a white van, especially one with WV02 RYR registration. If you do, remember as many details about the van and the people as you can. Ill post later to see if the speakers work. |
New member Username: Hit_man
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 10:03 am: |
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Sorry to hear you got scammed Will. No doubt like our son it came out of your student loan. We all learn the hard and expensive way! On reflection after being duped most people feel dumb & stupid but remember these guys are well practised and have degree in deception. Sometimes when its you being badgered and intensely pressurised you can't see the wood for the trees! We wired them up to the tv the other day and they actually worked - don't sound too bad either! but the question is for how long? |
New member Username: Enogma
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| Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 11:04 am: |
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I dont support deception or pushy sales but since ive landed up with these speakers (2 x tl1250s) ive got to say these ppl have done me a favour.
Robert and christine, there is no way a speaker can suddenly stop working, there is little to go wrong. Considering the speaker build is quite good, in fact the sound quality is moderate-high there is no chance of them suddenly goin wrong.
Mine have been tested on full sound levels and dont distort, they hold the bass nicely even at very low frequencies. Admittedly speaker life mite be 'interesting', but as already mentioned they seem quite good quality. I think, as someone has said in this thread, u must accept they are dodgy but untraceable, but actually quite good... after listening to them for a few days i dont feel scammed at all. i almost feel like they did me a favour. |
New member Username: Vje
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| Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 07:41 pm: |
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I just got scammed today, 5/4/06, by a white kid with a lip ring, in a Green Kida Van, Lic# 5HFE840.
I am usually the last one to fall for a scam, and I must have been out of my freakin' mind when I got these. I actually thought this kid was having a hard time doing his job, as he said that he just got done with his job, installing these things, and worked for Circuit City, and his boss put one extra in his van by mistake, and all that was going to happen was that his boss was going to take it home, himself, and keep it, and he looked pretty sincere (yes, I'm a sucker for helping people, underprivie'd people of all walks of life, and this is the price I pay for trying to help out).
He, at one point, appeared that he was going to give them to me, but I told him I'd give him $120, thinking that it was not necessarily illegal if his boss was going to take the speakers home anywawy, as he elaborated on his boss, and how he would take everything.
Anyway, long story short, I really thought I was helping this kid, and when I got home (woudl you believe I forgot my friggin' Treo at home? Otherwise, I would have looked up these speakers right on the spot), my blood was boiling.
Well, at least I got the license plate of the vehicle he was driving, and unless he stole it, I'll eventually track him down.
If any of you can help me with the information I have posted here, especially with the license plate (hopefully, this belong to this guy's parents, or something, who would be willing to pay me back, and take these speakers back), but I know that's wishful thinking.
I had no idea this was a scam. Any help would be much appreciated.
Hopefully someone will spot this guy and see this page, and know to stay away. |
New member Username: Enogma
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| Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 06:57 am: |
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have you tried them? if you havent and are into music you might find (with the tl1250s at least) you have got some speakers whose power output is not as stated but whose quality of build and sound is far greater than what £100 would buy you... i thought exactly the same as you at first, seriously try them. |
New member Username: Themaster620
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| Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 06:26 pm: |
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There is only one way to stop these guys and that is stop their customers, stop the customers you stop their money, no money no more business. The only way to do that is to let people know about this little scam. I think it would be a good idea to contact watchdog in the UK and any anti fraud organisations, even putting up leaflets up in your local newsagent would be a great help. If anyone knows any way of getting their website off search engines, it would be a good idea to try. If anyone knows anyone in the legal business maybe they could find someway to get legal action against them or at least get the police invovled. I think something has to be done, we cant just sit here and allow them to scam more people out of their hard earned cash! |
Gold Member Username: Project6
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| Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 08:04 pm: |
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Yeah...go get 'em! |
New member Username: Enogma
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| Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 09:07 am: |
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well the trouble is is that the UK reading police said they had pulled over thesee guys before, they had been arrested adn released without charge... they even had speakers on em... everything added up apparently, whether the police were simply seeing if i would sell them on (for some reason i told them that i planned to sell em on ebay before i realised that they were probably stolen... they are now off sale, despite their quality i dont wana be a scammer myself) or whether this is true it seems that the theatre innovatiosn organisation is well covered, otherwise they wouldnt make their own boxes adn friggin cellotape. |
New member Username: Themaster620
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| Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 05:21 am: |
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what about false advertisement? These speakers are clearly not worth $2000, giving an MSRP of $2000. Isn't that illegal? |
Gold Member Username: Project6
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| Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 07:08 am: |
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They are not advertising, they are giving you a price. False advertising is when they claim it to do things that it cannot or make claims about it's construction or materials.
Sure they are not worth that much, but they can pretty much sell it for any price they want. Once they make someone think that they are getting a whole lot of soemthing for nearly nothing, they get excited.
Problem is, they appealed to people's greed and their perceived bargain. Once they coax that greed out of somebody, it's all over!
If they do get arrested what are they going to charge them with? |
New member Username: Themaster620
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| Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 10:21 am: |
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I don't expect them to get arrested, i would like however too put an end to their business... |
New member Username: Hit_man
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| Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 12:49 pm: |
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Technically I don't think these people are breaking the law. It's sharp practice and having the nerve to do it combined with no conscience. As long as they file a tax return with the revenue (ha ha) don't think they are breaking any laws! Nice if the revenue could get them by the balls as they certainly have every body else by them!! |
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