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Anonymous
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Anyone have any comments on this TV -- good or bad?
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I considered to buy this TV but decided to get the Sony 50" LCD instead. I really like the Hitachi. However, Circuit City had one on display and the picture had a pink shadow around the edges of objects on the picture. The sales people could not explain what it was. A week later, we noticed that they had removed that television from the floor. Then we went to Sears. Their Hitachi looked great. They also had the Sony there. Same price and size. However, our salesman told us that the hitachi had a (pink shadow)problem last week, and that it magically cleared up on it's own.

Is this just a coincidence? Probably not. For this reason, we decided to get the Sony instead.
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Anonymous
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I considered the Sony 50WE610 but was more impressed with the quality and clarity of the Hitachi vs the Sony. I have the Hitachi on lay-away.
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Anonymous
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I have owned the Hitachi for over 2 weeks now. It is GREAT!! I compared the Hitachi with the Sony LCD and Samsung DLP, but came to the conclusion that the Hitachi is by far the better of the 2, especially after reading reviews and then seeing for myself. I got it on time for the baseball playoffs and football games, and am I glad I got it...
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Anonymous
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I am so happy that I got Hitachi instead of the Sony or Panasonic LCD projector. This time Hitachi really did a good job for the look and the price for this product. I've done a lot of research on LCD projector. If you are looking for the best picture and high quality. Hitachi would be a great choice. Their stand for this tv are crazy. Very expensive. Get some other stand instead.
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Jack Tirak
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I saw the Sony and Hitachi side by side at CC. It was interesting. Being in Television production for the last 30 years, I learned to judge the quality of a color monitor not by the color content but by the black and white content. That is were you see the flaws. The demo was showing some old B&W pics as part of a documentary. The Hitachi looked crisp, sharp and total clean B&W while the Sony 50 lcd had a pink cast accross the screen. that convinced me on the Hitachi.
A great set but want to see the new Philips LCOS. I am in no hurry. Target for purchase is in the next 7 or 8 months.
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Anonymous
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I just went through same dilemma but settled for the Hitachi but the stand is outrageous. Does any one know what other stand would fit this TV?
Would the panasonic stand fit? thanks.
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I too saw this one beside the Sony at Circuit City and the Toshiba picture looks a little better. I have had the TV for almost 2 weeks now and really like it. Though, I noticed last night that a pixel has gone on the blink and is now shinning a green color. I have a tech coming out next week to take a look, they seem to think it is just dust on the mirror (I hope this doesn't become a regular issue). I guess that could happen with any LCD.
The only bad thing that sticks out other than that is the fan noise you hear at low volume levels. But other than that I really like it. Also, I didn't pay the $600 they wanted for the stand either.
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Paul Necessary
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I purchased the 50V500 last night and only viewed it for about an hour, but what I did notice is a poor black level. The screens black level, especially in movies with black bars, simply does not appear dark enough to my taste.
I was using S-video and not component hook-ups, however. Does anyone know if this makes a difference in black level?

Also, one pixel is already burned out. I know Hitachi doesn't consider this a problem, but it still bothers me.
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wLw
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hi All,
cna anyone please comment on a comparison between the Hitachi LCD (50v500) vs. Samsung DLP (HLN507), for example ?
thank you !
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I took a close look at Sony Grand Wega, Samsung DLPs, and Hitachi LCD this weekend. I was very surprised at what I found between the different manufacturers:

1. Sony 42 and 50-inch Grand Wega -- I wanted to like it soooo badly. A friend is a dealer and will give me a good deal on a set. He loves Sony... dislikes DLP a great deal due to reliability issues of 1st generation. Anyway... what I witnesses were poor blacks (lots of whitish in the black areas), screen dooring, unconvincing detail. I found the 42 and 50 inch models were exhibiting the same characteristics with HD signal, DVD progressive, or satellite dish. Graphics from Fox football were also fuzzy. Overall, Sony delivered the worst picture.

2. Hitachi LCD 50V500 -- I was impressesed. Side-by-side with the Sony the Hitachi ate it's lunch in every aspect. Blacks were better... but detail blew me away compared to Sony. I could see the screen door. but it was less detracting for some reason. Why is this TV not getting more press??? What I didn't like were the gray bars used for 4:3 viewing. Why did Hitachi do this? LCD does not burn in.

3. Samsung DLP 43 and 50-inch -- Hands down the best image of the bunch for any source. Period. Green hues were more evident in fleshtones than I would have preferred... I'm hoping these can be toned down. I stuck my ear by the base to hear the not-so-marevelous color wheel spinning away. That's not cool... I hate my PVR for making noise... now I may have two spinning tops in the living room.

Again, the Hitachi blew me away considering it bested the Sony's by a wide margin. Granted, these sets are in the store and who knows what the settings are. But sitting there, it was undeniable the Sony's did not make the cut. And again, I soooo wanted to like then.

I did not find my friendly sales person in Ultimate Electronics or CC to be in a wheeling and dealing mood. Posted price was it unless I showed up with a competitor ad.

So... questions I have are...

Who else has been checking out the Hitachi's, can the gray bars be elminated in 4:3 mode, and why is this TV not getting more play?

Where can I buy a Samsung or Hitachi for a low price... mail order is perfectly fine at this stage as I am not into playing too many haggle games. I would be interested in hearing recommendations for buying through internet.
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aaron
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I spent 3 months reviewing 50 inch LCD (and DLP) offerings from Panasonic, Sony, Hitachi and The DLP from Samsung and ultimatly, the Hitachi was the winner hands down! The picture blew away the cheaper Panasonic, and the more expensive Sony, particularily the definition. I used Monsters Inc. as my test and the only one that came close was the Samsung which did not look $1300 better. the blacks were a bit better, on the Samsung but nothing compared value wise. I got it at Video Only here in Seattle for $2650.
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MaSu
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I visited a Video Only store today in Bellevue, and the 50 inch Hitachi was marked for $3000. Guess I will need to go back and negotiate a better price.

The sales guy told me that because Hitachi does not use an Active Matrix LCD, there was no chance of pixels going blank. That seems to be contradicted by the experiences of some of the people here.
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I just had the chance to buy my Hitachi LCD 50V500 TV at Sears,could just do a fast check side by side with a Sony, well, sony seems to have a better picture detail, and everithing else looks the same even price, but... my wife loved the design and the stand of the hitachi, what I definately agreed.You know the rest.
The best was the price, at SEARS, they match the price of competitors, and gave me a 10% disc. Lowest price, nowhere. I end up paying $3,140 for TV and Stand, after tax and delivery.. :)
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Anonymous
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I have heard good things about the 50v500. My question is, what is this new 50vx500? I saw an ad saying this was the Director's series. Should I buy the v or wait for the vx?
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Anonymous
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My family and I viewed HDTV images on the Hitachi 50V500 and Sony 50WE610 side by side at our local Circuit City store the other day. In our view, the picture resolution and coloration were fairly impressive on both sets. The only real difference we observed was that blacks appeared darker on the Hitachi (although with less detail in dark areas of the picture) than they did on the Sony.

Our overall sense was that the Hitachi might be somewhat better for watching standard broadcast television while the Sony might be a somewhat better choice for watching (sometimes darkly filmed) motion pictures.

All in all, however, it was pretty much a coin flip between both sets.
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TECHGUY
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Hitachi 50V500 and 50V500A models....is there a difference??? Beware some places that carry low prices and typically older model video/audio equipment have an extra digit on the model "A" Can anyone one tell me what the difference is? Maybe they are reworked or don't meet Hitachi's normal quality or possibly an earlier version , problem set , ect...??????
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Just picked up a Hitachi 50V500 at Video Only here in Beaverton OR for around $2900, inluding a 3 year extended on-site warranty and delivery and set up. I've spent the last few months comparing the Sony and Samsung LCDs, and had pretty much decided on the Samsung, when I spotted this little beauty.

To my untrained eye, it looked nearly as good as the Samsung, and much better than the Sony. Plus, I was very happy with it's remote and hookups, which I couldn't say about the Samsung. And to think, the 50" version of the Hitachi was the same price as the 42" version of the Samsung I was going to buy! I'm sure glad I stopped in to Video Only that day!

The only downside I could find was that Hitachi's matching stand was selling for over $500, but I picked up a nice black and aluminum Bush stand that I think looked even better, and all is well.

In my opinion, the Hitachi is not only the best bang for the buck, but also the best overall TV out of the three. I must say, I'm very happy.
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OK here's the inside scoop from an owner of the Hitachi 60V500 LCD (60" model). Absolutely no comparison to the Panasonic and Sony LCD projection sets. Hitachi has better resolution and a brighter image than other 2 sets. The new non-glare screen makes a big difference, especially when there's an extraneous light source. Virtually no glare. Sound quality is outstanding as well. Hitachi Ultravision is the high-end for Hitachi whereas the Sony LCD is not the high-end division of SONY. Remote control is also far superior on the Hitachi with design and overall functions. I have one major issue with the set which has driven me to the point of returning it. The noise emitted by the cooling fan is a major distraction after an hour or so as the bulb heats up. The owners manual specifically states that bad pixels and cooling fan noise are NOT considered defects. They may not be, but are annoying enough when you are concious of their presence.
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sacarguy
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i have the hitachi and it is great the picture is very clear... i also saw the sony but just liked the look of the hitachi looks so much like a flat screen..
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I have been looking at the 50V500 for the last couple of days and agree it beats the Sony hands down. Most noticable is the image luminance, much brighter picture. I want one - the kicker is here in Denver the cheapest I have seen is $3499, some have it for $3999 (gak!). On the plus side, the stand is $449 at CC.
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We looked the Samsung DLP and the Sony and Hitachi LCDs all 50". They all seem to have similar picture quality, but unfortunately I could not see them side-by-side. The people at Best Buy were willing deal on Samsung, but the Sony LCD they would not deal on (they don't sell Hitachi). People seem to prefer the LCD models. There is concern about long-term reliability of the DLP models. We did not want to take a chance. We like the looks of the Hitachi and it seemed to have good reviews. We negotiated with the Sears sale person and they sold us the Hitachi with the outrageously expensive stand for $2936 (before sales tax).
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Anonymous
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the wholesale cost of the stand for hitachi is 360 plus freight for 50 inch and 368 for 60 inch.
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Does anyone know the dimensions of the Hitachi 50V500 (particularly the depth)? Also, we do not want a metal stand (prefer wood). Has anyone tried just using a wood coffee table with shelve for components? It would seem to work...

I was told that Panasonic does NOT have in home service?? (finding that hard to believe).
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Anonymous
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panasonic's repair center's will have in home service...for a price of course. i don't think any manufacture will give you free in home service, only warranty that does that is the "extended warranty" or "performance service plans"'s
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Terry Cedar
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Hitachi 50V500 dimensions are: 35 7/16" (H); 55" (W); 163/8" (D). Weight is 148#s. This does not include the stand.
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Anonymous
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I have been searching for the 50V500 or 60V500 in Canada for about 2months and the only dealers who have them(Sears doesnt sell them here) are sticking to the suggested retail of $4999($3850US). or $5999($4600.US) resp.The MSRP and selling prices in the US are enormously lower for the same TVs. The problem is that the US warranty is void up here so buying in the US is out. Anybody out there know the reason for the pricing discrepancy as both TVs are foreign mfg to our countries?
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Anonymous
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Height of the stand made for the Hitachi is about 14 1/2". I have seen other stands that claim to be for that model at about 18" or so. I think it also it deoends on your viewing or seating height. The nice thing about the LCD projection TV's is that you would have to get at a pretty large angle to loose the brightness.
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Anonymous
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I am a major retailer. Few things to know:
- You run the risk of a failed television on delivery.
- If your retailer includes light-bulbs in an extended warranty, purchase the extended warranty.
- The Hitachi is a million marks ahead of the Sony in all regards posted above.
- LCD will burn in. Do not leave static images on for several hours. The recovery process from a burn in will remove 10-15% of the tv's quality.

ONCE AGAIN: LCD WILL BURN IN IF NOT USED CORRECTLY. That's why the analogy (4:3) has the GREY bars instead of BLACK BARS...the grey bars are easier to recover from a burn in than solid black bars.

Buy the Hitachi over all others. You're getting an Ultravision at Sony's middle-of-the-road product's price.
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Anonymous
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Did any body has any comments on how the regular TV shows looks like in the 50V500 or any other HDTV for that matter. What is the quality of the regular TV. Also, what is the quality of the DVD movies in this TV. If I have a regular progressive scan DVD player, will that suffice to get a good picture quality. Please provide your valuable feedback as I am eagerly looking for buying soon. Does any body have any idea about any store where I can get a good price in the California Bay area.
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Anonymous
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I am ready to buy a 60v500. Sears will match CC's price of $3599 and will take another 10% off that. After reading the above, I am very concerned about the fan noise. This will drive me crazy. Does anyone else have an opinion on this?
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I work at a very high end Stereo Store in Ottawa Canada and know for certain that there are absolutely no burn-in issues with LCD TVs. You have no idea what you are talking about! The Hitachi uses 3 LCD panels to display the image. NOT a phosphor screen like traditional rear-projection CRT sets. Another real nice thing about the Hitachi 50V500 (all big screen Hitachis actually) is that it is one of the very few TVs that can stretch an HD 4:3 signal, which is common on many digital cable providers. Toshiba removed this feature this year for some reason and Sony's can't either. I'm pretty sure only Hitachis and Pioneer Elite TV's have this nice feature now.
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Frank Wells
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I have the same question as an earlier posting. What are the differences between a 50V500 and the 50VX500?
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Anonymous
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I bought a 50V500 with its matching stand at a local Sears for $2628 before tax and delivery last Saturday. So for those who are seeking for a better price, talk to Sears people. They deal.

My questions:

1. How long is the life of its light-bulb?

2. How much is a replacment bulb and where can I get it?

3. It is worthwhile to buy extended warranty for $399 for 3 years at Sears? If the bulb will burn out in 3 years, it is but what if it burns in its 4th years?

Thanks
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Regarding the bulb, I've talked with some sales reps and they indicated it should last 4 - 5 years. And the bulb runs roughly $250.

For those that have negotiated a lower price on the TV and stand, what was your criteria by which you negotiated? Did you find the wholesale cost of the TV and used that for leverage? Just curious. :-)
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Anonymous
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Hi Luke,

Thanks for the info on the life of the bulb. Do you happend to know the part # and where to purchase these bulbs?

It seems that purchasing a 3 year warranty is not a good option if we cannot take advantage of replacing the bulb in warranty then.

Regarding prices, it is almost impossible to negotiate too much on the stand. I guess stand is what gives them markups. I paid about $450 for my stand at Sears (off 10% holiday saving). Yep, my TV costed me only $2178 before tax and delivery.

Most of our local stores can match a $2500 for 50v50. Then Sears with 10% on listing difference ($listed at $3299) is $80 and 10% off for holiday that they run almost every Saturday morning from now till Xmas, you should get a good deal.
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Unfortunately I don't have that information. I would talk with a sales rep at Circuit City or possibly contact Hitachi directly and see if they have any advice. Here's a copy of their product support website, just in case: http://www.hitachi.us/tv/resource/prodsupport/prod_suppt_index.shtml

I agree with you on the warrenty. Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the warrenties because 9 times out of 10 the warrenty expiers prior to any defects impacting the appliance, television, automobile, etc.

Thanks for the info on prices. I've heard of Sears price match policy (having worked there before). Good strategy. Overall, have you been pleased with your purchase?
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Anonymous
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Luke,

I won't get my TV till after Xmas --- waiting for moving into our new home by then. So can't answer your question.
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Hi guys,
Thanks for some great informations on this TV!
Can you tell me what part of the country that you got your 50v500 from?
I was at my local Sears store in Chicago area and they would not go lower than $3100 for the set!
CC willing to sell this TV for $2800 before tax and shipping!
Thanks,
Twan
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MM
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I've had my 60V500 for a little over a month now and can recommend it highly. I had my set ISF calibrated, and the tech was impressed with how well it was configured out of the box. He kept the picture temp at its highest setting (the lower settings were too brown), backed the contrast down to about 75%, leaving almost everything else at 50% except Red on the component inputs adjusted down to 30%. Also, if you like to watch in total darkness, check out http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/ideal_lume.htm - they sell a light meant to be mounted BEHIND the TV that DRAMATICALLY improves the black levels - I SWEAR BY THIS!

I have heard that CRT is still the best picture quality in terms of contrast etc. but I wouldn't trade the 60V500 for anything!
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Anonymous
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I was at my local Sears store in Chicago area and they would not go lower than $3100 for the set!
CC willing to sell this TV for $2800 before tax and shipping!
Thanks,
Twan


This cannot be true. Talk to a different sales guy or go to a different Sears store in Chicago. I bought it in Ohio but it should not matter. I bought mine last Saturday morning.

I would not call '$2800 before tax and shipping!
at CC' a good deal even for TV + stand.
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Someone had asked what's the difference between the Director's version and the normal store brand version (i.e 50VX500 vs 50V500 respectively).

There is a store in Denver that carries the director's version and the sales rep indicated that there is a more enhanced processing chip inside the TV and there is a greater ability to adjust the red, blue, and green settings. There's also a $1000 price descrpency as well.
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Anonymous
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Twan,
How did you get Circuit City down to $2800? It is on sale there this week for $3099. $2800 seems like a very good price to me.
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Twan Pham
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CC will take 10% coupon from Bestbuy!
Sears will be having a sales tomorrow every tv will be 10% off and $100 instant rebate.
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Anonymous
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Can anyone share info on the 50v50 matching stand?

I hear people say that the glass shelves can bow if two media boxes sit side by side on the same glass shelf.

thanks.
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Twan Pham
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Hi!
"This cannot be true. Talk to a different sales guy or go to a different Sears store in Chicago. I bought it in Ohio but it should not matter. I bought mine last Saturday morning.
I would not call '$2800 before tax and shipping!
at CC' a good deal even for TV + stand."

Which part of Ohio are you from?
I would drive there and pick it up, if I can get it for the price that you got this TV ($2400) because I had to pay $3100 out the w/o the stand!
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Orange 23
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I got mine HIT 50v 500 three days ago and while I love the set design, features, etc... I can't match CC in-store DTV pic quality. I put monster, S-Video, even got CC's tech coming and yet, still not satisfied as pic is not as sharp and crisp as I saw it at CC.
I'll return mine and try a new one perhaps it'll help as I love everything else about this TV.
FYI, CC gave me $ 2,800 and free shipping.
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love_hdtv
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I just bought the 50V500 from Video Only in the Bay area. I paid $3100 out the door. This includes 5 year warranty, taxes and shipping costs. No stand
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Jimbo
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The stands are overpriced for the quality. The glass shelves will bow if too much is on 1 shelf, and the pillars are laminate particle board (I had to glue a leg back together).

Stands are definitely NOT worth the money, but the wife wouldn't let me get the TV without a matching stand, so it all comes down to aesthetics.
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Anonymous
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I got the Hitachi 50V500 with the following:

Stand Included
Tax and delivery/Set-up
5yr. Warranty
0% down 36 months free financing

$3900

They had 3 in stock and no more coming in until mid-Jan.
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Anonymous
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Twan Pham,

I am in Central Ohio. 5-6 hours drive from Chicago.

If you are serious about getting it here at my price. Send me an email and I will email you the Sears Store phone and my Sears sales rep name. You talk to him and get the price and he can ship or you can come and get it.
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Hi!
"If you are serious about getting it here at my price. Send me an email and I will email you the Sears Store phone and my Sears sales rep name. You talk to him and get the price and he can ship or you can come and get it."

Yeah, I'm serious about buying this tv! I already placed an order at CC for this TV, but it won't be delivering until 12/9 and I had to pay $3110 w/o the stand or the warranty. I guess I can always cancel the CC's order before they ship it, if I can get this tv for >$500.
My e-mail address is: twanpham@yahoo.com
Thanks
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Jason Pastor
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I know that everyone may not be able to take advantage of this, but I was able to talk HHGregg down on the 60V500 to $3299 (before tax).

The story:
Circuit City had made a mistake and left an old rebate sign on the TV. The price was supposed to be $3599, but with the $300 rebate mistake, it brought the price to $3299. CC agreed to give the $300 in store credit, but they were out of stock and couldn't deliver for "about 6 weeks." Overall, the experience at CC was not pleasing me. So, I went to HHGregg and told them that I was ready to buy from CC for $3299 (I did not get into the details of the price), but they were out of stock on the item. If HHGregg would match the price and had the TV in stock, I would pick it up the same day.

A couple of key points:
* HHGregg is new to our area (Atlanta), so I think they are a very motivated seller
* I agreed to purchase the 5-year warranty, in addition ($399), so I am sure they have some good margin/commission there.
* If both CC and HHGregg were willing to sell 60" for $3299, there is definately room for haggling on the prices.
* I think I am an HHGregg convert. I had never heard of them before, but my experience on this TV has been excellent. I hope that over time they don't lose the customer focus.
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Anonymous
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Has anyone found a different stand for this tv to sit on?
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Anonymous
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I just purchased mine from a local dealer in Charleston SC called Rex's. Out the door with tax, stand and a 2 year warranty was $3333.00. It will be ready for pickup on Thursday... The stand is not the Hitachi stand but one made by Tech-Craft. The model on it was a PTV58. It is a nice glass stand. I can't wait to see it all sitting in my Home Theater Room...
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Anonymous
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We wanted to buy the Sony Wega 50" but found that there seems to be an issue with defective bulbs. The tv was delivered to our home and when we turned it on we did not get any red tones. The tv was packed back up and taken back. Come to find out Sony has at least 450 back ordered. We opted for the 60" and found that this tv also had the same bulb issue. Obviously, Sony is having some real issues with there Wega.

We settled on the Hitachi, which will be delivered tomorrow. We bought ours at Ultimate Electronics after Circuit City gave us the run around. We were able to purchase the 50V500 and a 5 year warranty for $3200.
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Dave S
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With a little searching I found the Hitachi datasheets online for both the 50v500 and 50VX500. The only differences I see are:

50VX model is Platimum in finish (whoppee)
50vx model has a second "simple" remote (just what I need)
50VX model has something called "deep black anti-reflective shield" (that must be the kicker)

I'm stll on track for the plain old V model...

(thanks for the posts too - I'm goin' to Sears! - letcha know how I do in Denver)