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Thread: Magic card or DSS Rev Card ? |
    
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| Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 04:18 pm: |
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What exactly is the difference in these 2 cards. They both sound like they do about the same thing. Both Plug and Play cards ,neither need to be programmed. Which one is better, i'll probably keep my minimum Dishnet subscription. I have 3 different reciever models (3)with the Blue cards and one has the newer yellow card. Wil they all work. If someone can help that would be great. Iv'e emailed a few different internet sites that sell them but none want to email me back or they email info i did not ask for . |
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| Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 06:29 pm: |
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The big difference is that the "DSS rev" is the older technology and is not supported anymore. That is why it is cheaper. I am looking people who are using Magiccard to get some feedback. |
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| Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 11:14 pm: |
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I just ordered one today, I'll post my opinion soon. |
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| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 11:16 am: |
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For me the MC works great, I've had no problems with it and I use it in married-sub mode. All channels are open and I'm not even subd with Dish. If you want moe info on MC go to dssmili.com and enter the forum and click on magic card forum.
hope this helps you out. |
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| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 04:05 pm: |
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If I were to start testing Dish Net...
What all would I need?
Magic card, receiver that works w/ jtag, what else???
some people have said that after pointing the satelite correctly, you can use a Direct tv satelite. Is that true?
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| Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 09:00 pm: |
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You can use the direct tv dish, single LNB. You can also get yourself SW21 and connect them to 2 single LNBs . One LNB for the 110 and the second LNB for 119. This set up will work great. Hope this helps |
New member Username: Pawnmaster
Post Number: 4
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 12:16 pm: |
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Magic Cards are a great new tecnology. Though still in its infancy, many testers are working together to help develop the cards code. Honestly the card was released too early and therefore there has been many set backs. Yes fixes are available quickly, and the support is good. I personally have over 25 of the cards and the root of any programming problems anyone has had thusfar has been that the cards are cheaply made, and because they need programming so often (for now)the contacts wear prematurely and you get errors and programming issues. Solution? i have discovered that you need to re-tin the contacts and the card works fine. The beauty of the card? It works for all providors, Dish, Bell, Cabo, Globalcast etc.....Can we make it work for Daves dish????? Time will tell! Check out www.magiccard.tv/ and www.datastreamz.net |
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 12:18 pm: |
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yes.
thanks for the help.
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| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 12:38 pm: |
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i have 2 dish recievers 0ne is a 3700 with a rom 10 and the other is a 3900 with a rom 10 can both of these be used with a magic card ?? will it be difficult? new to this |
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Bronze Member Username: Pawnmaster
Post Number: 16
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:18 pm: |
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why not get the rom10 cards unlocked and use those? |
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| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:47 pm: |
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bill s thanks for advice. i dont know to much about this i still have to get a programmer i was reading info on the magic cards and i thought it was a plug n play just trying to figure this out the easiest way for now thanks |
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| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 02:40 pm: |
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"bill s thanks for advice. i dont know to much about this i still have to get a programmer i was reading info on the magic cards and i thought it was a plug n play just trying to figure this out the easiest way for now thanks"
I was thinking the same here...
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Bronze Member Username: Pawnmaster
Post Number: 17
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 03:15 pm: |
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The beauty of the Magic Cards is they come with a programmer, I have 6 left, to do the Rom10 cards, you need to get them unlocked (about $25 each) then get all the software you need (free) and then buy an ISO programmer (about $100 for a good one) You would also need the boxkey from your reciever and to get it you would need to buy a JTag (about $50)and get some more software (free) The Magic card in married sub mode just needs to be programmed with the software (free) and put in with your access card. No boxkeys or anything! |
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| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 06:04 pm: |
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thanks for the info |
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| Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 06:06 pm: |
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pawn master thanks for the help |
Some Testing Guy Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 03:48 pm: |
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So the magic cards sorta act like a AVR board then? Can they be used by themselves? Like programmed like a rom 3 ,10 so on? |
New member Username: Mrpeabody
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Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 05:00 pm: |
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Hey Bill S.
Do i need an active account to use the majic card? And what is a good ISO progammer for me to get? Thanks for the help. |
Bronze Member Username: Pawnmaster
Post Number: 26
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 09:35 pm: |
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The magic Cards come with a programmer of their own, you dont need a sub (although you do need a valid CamID to keep it going) And yes you can use them Camless (without an access card to open all channels |
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| Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 11:53 am: |
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Read up on the posts on other sites about the problems most people have (including myself) with the programmers that come with the card. They rarely work. Apparently the cards are dandy (if you can program them) but lots of folks have tried for weeks to get their programmers working to no avail. They seldom work with Win XP and most are using Win 98 on older machines. Mine will not work at all on my XP sys. and works with errors (so still no good) on my laptop with Win. 98. If they come up with a quality programmer (who cares if it's $5 or $10 more) It'll be a good product. |
Bronze Member Username: Pawnmaster
Post Number: 27
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 03:10 pm: |
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It has been discovered that the issue is not with the programmers, but with the cards them selves. Although a wonderful piece of Magic, to save a little money, maybe, they are fairly cheaply made. Repeated inserting and removal of the cards into the recievers and the programmers causes wear on the card contacts. The solution I have found is to re-tin the contacts on the cards with some good solder, or gold solder, or to add a contact like the ones on the regular access cards as I have done (pictured below) Hope this helps, and yes the folks at Magic are aware of the problems, and hopefully a solution is forthcomming.
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| Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 09:21 pm: |
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if anyone is selling a magic card and a programmer please e-mail me at specialopsteamleader@hotmail.com |
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| Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 01:07 pm: |
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will the magic card work on my new system? it has a card slot but apparently does not have a card. |
Bronze Member Username: Pawnmaster
Canada
Post Number: 38
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 01:27 am: |
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If there is a slot ther is a spot! |
darrylw31 Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 07:39 am: |
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i have a magic card n programmer . as i program card when i put in reciever i get error . that card not inserted right .. can someone help me .. thanks |
Bronze Member Username: Pawnmaster
Canada
Post Number: 81
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 11:50 am: |
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Sounds like you either entered the wrond CamID, Boxkey or Card password.
If you get Smart card not inserted correctly ?
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Remove card and go to default info screen. Observe Smart Card ID # and line beneath it.
If Smart Card ID = S00000000000 and line beneath is empty, then card was not programmed correctly.
If Smart Card ID = S0000000000000 and line beneath is DNASP003Rev3......
Then card was programmed correctly, but you entered the wrong password. Check your password
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Bronze Member Username: Raysonawav
Post Number: 13
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Friday, June 18, 2004 - 05:00 pm: |
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Magicusertoo,I already have a programmer.Will you sell just a card to someone in the US? Is that easier to get across? |
New member Username: Mrpeabody
Post Number: 2
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 04:21 pm: |
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I have a question that is not related to majic cards. Can anybody tell me the best way to unlock a rom 10 that is at rev 23. I get the message backdoor disabled. thanks in advance for your help. |
LocalHero Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 02:45 am: |
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Hi all.This is Carlos form Spain.We are really interested in this new card called Magic Card.Could you give a clue about how much (around) it cost there.?.We listened something like 150 $.Is this true?
Thanks a lot, mates.
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lonewolf Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 05:28 pm: |
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local hero u can go to www.magiccard.tv to get all the info u need on the magic card. and ur welcome!!!! |
New member Username: Trae1170
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Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 08:17 pm: |
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I bought my Magic Card and had problems getting it programmed also. I finally got it programmed then I kept getting an error when I installed it. I finally got it all figure out and I now have all Dishnetwork has to offer( all Local channels, all paid channels, all Adult channels, all PPV, all audio......everything. Below are a few things I figured out and the setup I am using.
I'm using:
Dp301.10 reciever
using the Magic Card in "Married-Sub" mode
Windows XP (on my computer)
I plugged the programmer directly into the back of my computer, do not use a cord in between programmer and parellel port.
Slide a plastic card(credit card,ect.)in the programmer with the magic card so it is a tighter fit. This insures the contacts touch.
When your programming your card if you get an error and it does not complete or just freezes up, stop the program (Ctrl,Alt,Delete - then start the program up again)this time try changing the programming speed (there is a slide bar in the middle right side of the programming software. Some people need to make it slower but I actually had to speed it up to get it to complete.
After the Magic Card is programmed (should only take 5-10 min.), slide the Magic Card about 3/4 of the way in the slot on the reciever then start sliding your access card in over top.It will be a tight fit. I had to slide the 2 of them in a few times to get the slot to expand a bit.(The biggest issue is not getting the two cards in all the way, I pushed the 2 of them in as far as I could get them then I tried jiggling them side to side then pushed them in again. As long as you don't bend them up or down you should not break the magic card.). Once you think you have them in all the way unplug your reciever from the wall for about a minute(hard reset), then plug it in again. Hit the power button on the reciever. Wait about a minute (you might come up with an error message but don't do anything yet...just wait a minute)and it should start searching for channels (this takes a couple of minutes),you should then get the guide and you should have everything.
I did use alot of should's in the instructions but this is what I found to work for me. I think the latest Magic Software is version 2.2.5, this has the PPV fix.
Hope this helps someone.
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LocalHero Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Friday, June 25, 2004 - 06:53 am: |
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Thanks for your information, lonewolf.It was really valious.
Cheers,
Carlos |
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| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 11:29 pm: |
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if anyone is interested in Magic Cards,please email me at: JaroslawT_2003@yahoo.com
PS: References Available. |
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 09:49 pm: |
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Hi:
I do have a problem, after inserting mc in receiver, it will not download. I get message 015 and061 and it just keep repeating these two codes. Does anyone have experience in downloading. I have a 3900 receiver with an autolock.
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Bronze Member Username: Pawnmaster
Canada
Post Number: 90
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 11:35 pm: |
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Running dishnet I assume, You must let the reciever update (download) and reset itself before using the Magic Card. And anyone looking for Magic Cards here already knows to look here, having sold over 100 to forumn members. PM me (not an anonymous user) |
New member Username: Fergy56
Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-04
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| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 06:21 pm: |
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have a magic card but no password any ideas?? |
New member Username: Mike44
Phoenix,
Arizona
Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 07:19 pm: |
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FEEDBACK:
I just want to let everybody know that i bought 2 magic cards off Jaroslaw a week ago,paid by new internet service called ikobo.com,received 2 magic cards with 2 programmmers today,cards came brand new in the plastic
JAROSLAWT1977 COMES HIGHLY RECOMMENDED !!! |
New member Username: Srs244
Quebec City,
Quebec
Canada
Post Number: 1
Registered: Jul-04
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| Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 01:11 pm: |
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FEEDBACK ON JAROSLAWT1977
I'll second that,i just received 7 Magic cards after 2 days delay,Jaroslawt1977 is not only a good salesman but a great person,thanks again and i will place my second order soon. |
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| Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 09:38 pm: |
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JAROSLAWT1977
Haven't heard from you...everything OK...with Browser yet...?...
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Arredondo Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:16 pm: |
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Hi,
I have one of those DVR 510 that Dishnetwork gave with the promotion, but I dont know if the Magic Card will work with it. I dont know what type of card it came with, but it was a yellow one. |
Silver Member Username: Pawnmaster
Canada
Post Number: 103
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:48 pm: |
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Yes it will work with your reciever, You can run it Camless in any reciever as long as you have the boxkeys. |
Arredondo Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 01:46 pm: |
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But I want to use it in married mode, or something like that, when I use the suscription I already have.
Does it work with the yellow card I have??
By the way, thanks a lot. |
Arredondo Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 01:51 pm: |
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But will it work in Married Mode with the yellow card it came?? By the way, what type of card is it?
Thanx a lot |
Silver Member Username: Pawnmaster
Canada
Post Number: 113
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 03:41 pm: |
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Yellow card is a Rom101, 102 or 103, it will work in blocker mode with these cards just fine. |
Arredondo Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 05:21 pm: |
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Thanks a lot man. |
Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 01:12 pm: |
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GUYS I AM NEW T THIS AND wondering how to find out wherther your card is ROM 10 or not, and if it is ROM 10 how to unlock it. Where can I get the best price for a Magic Card??? |
Dishlover Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 02:31 pm: |
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HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANX IN ADVANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Silver Member Username: Pawnmaster
Canada
Post Number: 127
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 05:46 pm: |
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Sorry dish lover, here are the Rom types and such, I do have Magic Cards if you need one too. Email me.
There is a small # printed on the bottom corner of the card should say "nagra(ID) DA-05" the DA-05 part tells you what kind it is.
IRD Firmware:
Model 1000 Current firmware : E405
Model 2700 Current firmware : E451
Model 3000 Current firmware : E412
Model 3100 Current firmware : E469
Model 3500 Current firmware : E412
Model 3700 Current firmware : E408
Model 4000 Current firmware : E416
Model 4500 Current firmware : E416
Model 4700 Current firmware : E480
Model 5100/5800 Current firmware : E444
Model 6000 Current firmware : E460
ROMs
288-01 ROM2
288-02 ROM3
288-03 ROM10
288-04 ROM3
288-05 ROM3
288-06 ROM3
288-07 ROM3
288-08 ROM3
288-09 ROM10
288-10 Some Rom3 & rest Rom10
325-01 ROM3
A2012 ROM3
A2013 ROM10
AA-01 ROM3
AA-02 ROM3
AA-03 ROM10
288-11 ROM10
DN03 ROM10
DA-02 ROM10
DA-03 ROM10
DA-04 ROM10
DA-05 ROM11
AA-04 ROM11 (not programmable yet)
AA-05 ROM101 (not programmable yet)
AA-06 ROM101 (not programmable yet)
AA-07 ROM101 (not programmable yet)
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| Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 04:29 pm: |
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Ok. This is my experience: I bought MC and tried to insert with my Rom into the IRC (3120) in the marrid-sub mode. It was very tight so it broke my IRC card reader ! I have to buy another reciever for $200 !
Think twice before buying a Magic card !
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Silver Member Username: Pawnmaster
Canada
Post Number: 135
Registered: Jun-04
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| Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 11:29 pm: |
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Wow I cant see that, but if you say it happened, I believe you, why can you just not replace the card slot (about $3 at an electronics shop)and go from there? If not sell me your reciever!! |
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| Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 01:33 am: |
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Having trouble with Yellow AA-07 card. I inserted it into my 301 reciever and I keep getting error 019 "card inserted incorrectly". It will not even allow me to enter the setup menu to figure out the Azimuth Elevation, or Skew options. I'm very new to all this, and am wondering if card is any good. When I remove card and get important system Infomation screen. the Smart card Id is S0000000000-00 and under that it says DNASP102REV103. IS there a Password somewhere I should know about? The system was supposed to be brand new |
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| Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 01:47 am: |
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Go 2 www.dssareana.com 4 the Magic Card (MC) its $80 with the programmer and with out $76. |
need to know Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 03:32 am: |
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magicusertoo, I'm very interested in the magic cards. But before I buy one from you I was wanting to know if your cards are ready to plug and play, also around how long do they stay up for before going down and when they do go down where do I get the new fix? Thanks in advance. |
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| Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 01:32 pm: |
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I have ordered 6 cards from Jaroslaw1977 myself, where are you guy? Got a email on the 14th saying mail via fedex economy, no tracking and no information. Anyone ordered and got them recently? |
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| Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 01:33 pm: |
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I have ordered 6 cards from Jaroslaw1977 myself, where are you guy? Got a email on the 14th saying mail via fedex economy, no tracking and no information. Anyone ordered and got them recently? |
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| Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 06:08 pm: |
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I just ordered also from Jaroslaw1977....no package yet....I sure hope it wasn't a scam...I will let you know if I get mine soon... |
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| Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 01:47 pm: |
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Does anybody has idea, whether magic card works with Dishnet D301.013 type receiver? I'm planning to use it in married sub mode. I have yellow access card(NAGARA Vision) from DISH. |
New member Username: Bluedish51
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| Posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2004 - 03:39 pm: |
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I just recently purchased a Dish DVR 921 system. It comes with a "Yellow Card" I wantif it will work with a Magic Card. I have a dish subscription and I want to use it in the married mode. If I cant use it with the married mode can I use it stand alone? Will it work with this 921 system or will it fit both of them the yelllow card and magic card at the same time? Wont the slot be to small for them to fit? Does anyone know how get the keys for this box? I know this is a fairly new system, but does anyone know how to work with it and make it work with magic cards?? NEED HELP in this matter. What do I need and where can i find more info. Thanks
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