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Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
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Post Number: 2804
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 11:19 pm: |
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With new Bin's being released so often so many of you are losing channels during the updating process.. To save alot of time I thought I would post a few suggestions of what you should do before or during the updating process every time you upload a new bin in your receiver.
I do this each time and never have any data loss I just do it this way, in this order, and watch tv seconds after putting the new bin in my receiver not after fighting my receiver for hours or day's.
#1 BEFORE you disconnect your receiver from the TV make a note of ALL antenna settings for every Satellite you can receive. You could do this ANYTIME so its done. I have it all in nice text DOC in my computer.
#2 Download the new bin from the "home" forum for your receiver. Never pay for free info. Unzip the file and place it inside a folder on your computer named "new bin 12-03-09 or whatever the date is.
#3 Go to Viewsatusa.com or wherever on the nett you can get one and get a FRESH UPDATED copy of the satfile. Place this file inside that folder you made today.
#5 Use the Loader Program or USB drive to copy the channnel list FROM your receiver to the computer. Place that file indise the folder you made today.
#6 Use the loader Program or USB drive to install the new bin, satfile, and Channel List from the folder you made today.
#8 Connect your receiver back to TV, LNB and whatever else you normaly do.
#9 Using you notes make sure all settings are the same as before in each satallite you can receive in antenna settings.
#10 Turn it to a sat and if need be let it autoroll. Sometimes this step takes 3 min sometimes 10. If you interrupt it by changing channels it will take longer so just let it roll.
#11 Watch tv. Be thankfull it works.
#12 After using the receiver for a while go to the "home" forum for you receiver and report any Bug's or thank the coders for their hard work.
Yes their are a few extra steps here than what some people will say do they do but when these steps are done they save ALOT of time and energy fixing trouble after a data loss. I have 17 sat's scanned with 2700 channels it would take me about 5 hours to get everything back the way I like it. I am sure others will jump here and say stuff like "I never do all that and I never have troube" That is fine I am just saying if you do this you will not have trouble due to data loss or settings being wrong. It takes me about 5 min to do this each time so its not a big deal.
Loader2 User Guide
“Loader2” can download the firmware from PC to STB.
1. Install “Loader2” to your PC.
2. PLUG OUT YOUR STB FROM OUTLET.
3. Connect “NULL MODEM CABLE” between PC and STB.
4. Run “Loader2” on PC.
5. Run the “Tool->Configuration” menu and select serial port what you use.
6. Press “Open File” button and select the file what you want to download.
7. And then press “PC->STB” button.
WHEN ZMODEM WINDOW IS APPEARING, PLUG IN YOUR STB.
8. Then selected file will download from PC to STB.
9. When download is complete, you can see below message.
When you see this dialog on PC, STB will start to write flash memory.
Please wait until STB automatically reboot.
Final Solution Free To Air:
http://www.fsfta.com/index.php (All receivers)
Future FTA - Blacklist's Site:
http://www.future-fta.info/forum/index.php (Pansat)
Curious Contraptions Community:
http://www.curious-contraptions.com/forums/ (All receivers)
FTA Tech - Free To Air Community:
http://www.ftatech.net/forums/ (All receivers)
DVB Spider - Free To Air Technology:
http://dvbspider.tk/ (Spacestar)
Free To Air:
http://www.f2atv.com/ (C00LSAT and All receivers)
DSS Newbies:
http://www.dss-newbies.net/forums/ (All receivers)
DSS Evolution:
http://www.dssevolution.com/ (All receivers)
DSS Rookie:
http://www.dssrookie.com/forums/ (All receivers)
Global Airway Technology Specialists:
http://www.gat-s.biz/forum/index.php (All Receivers)
Total FTA
http://www.totalfta.c*om (VIEWSAT and All receivers)
Cut and Paste these into your browser:
REMOVE the * in links below:
http://forums.dsstester.c*om/ (All receivers)
http://www.dsscommunity.c*om/forums/ (All Receivers)
http://www.al7bar.t*k/ (All receivers)
http://www.dsscentral.n*et/ (All Receivers)
http://www.pantecf2a.c*om/support (Pantecs,all clones and all receivers)
http://www.gat-s.biz (All receivers)
File Share Site - No Registration Required:
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Good for gettting Original factory firmware:
http://www.ftacentral.c*om/ (All receivers)
Satellite Finders (Look Angle Calculators)
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http://www.arachnoid.com/satfinder (Dish 500 support)
http://www.satellitenut.com/calculators/SatelliteHeading.html
http://www.hollsco.com/Products/SatCalc/
http://www3.telus.net/rampage/skew.htm (Dish 500 support)
http://www.remotesat.com/lookangle.htm
Satellite Charts
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For information on all satellites and channels they offer
http://www.lyngsat.c*om/america.html
http://www.satcodx.c*om
My System
Viewsat Platinum Receiver, 31" Dish Antenna, QPH-031 LNB, Motor. I currently have over 17 Satellites Scanned and over 2400 Channels some true FTA "In the Clear" and All of DN and BEV.
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Silver Member Username: Bjcrisp6478
Post Number: 131
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Sunday, December 30, 2007 - 11:39 pm: |
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thanks Tester..... |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
I WILL FIND...
Post Number: 2805
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 12:21 am: |
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It's what I am here for.. |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
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Post Number: 2811
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 02:03 am: |
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Gold Member Username: Hawaiian_time
Kanaka freak...
Post Number: 1709
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 02:48 am: |
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Very elaborate post. Looks like an ebay site! lol
Good info TFT, thanx. |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
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Post Number: 2812
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 02:54 am: |
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Sadly when the new bin's arrive within the next few day's we will have lot's of lost users anyway...
Thanks and ya it does kinda look ebayish I was gonna make banners for all the forums but decided that would be too much LoL |
Bronze Member Username: Lynchmob450
Post Number: 88
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 09:29 am: |
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Good job educating, Tester! I wish there was more of this and less of the crap that is over-flowing on this site. |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
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Post Number: 2818
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 09:38 am: |
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Thanks I also wish we could see only post's like this or people who truly need help here. We all do our best... |
Silver Member Username: Charjam
Post Number: 282
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 09:47 am: |
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tester what is a sat file |
Bronze Member Username: Jerkisland
Post Number: 63
Registered: Mar-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 09:49 am: |
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FTA Tester, Excellent post . Can you also put in intructions to download the channel list from the STB to PC. |
Silver Member Username: Rescate
VENEZUELA, M...
Post Number: 124
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:16 am: |
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Thanks THE FTA TESTER,
Good post!
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Silver Member Username: Aanaa
Post Number: 216
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:24 am: |
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Thanks for the info
also could have been add all home sites so that different sat users can easily go to their home site |
Silver Member Username: Dr_dss
Post Number: 427
Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:33 am: |
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You copy and paste of LK's List is SPAM
dsscommie and dsscentral
are both pay for access sites |
New member Username: Mucho
Post Number: 7
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Monday, December 31, 2007 - 11:04 am: |
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TESTER, What is a Sat File?
C/P SAT files are ASCII text files that may be viewed with a simple text editor. A SAT file
contains carriage returns, white space and other formatting that makes it readable to the
human eye. A SAT file has a .sat file extension. |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
I WILL FIND...
Post Number: 2831
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 12:10 am: |
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David,
The satfile is the file your receiver uses to get information everything from all the transponders to its position the the belt. What can and has happened ALOT is the channel list will have a channels information as being for example on transponder 224324 on echostar 4 but the SILLY receiver during the update process deleted some of the transponders in the satfile so the receiver CANNOT tune to that channel and you will see in the info bar.....autoroll processing making you think that it is in fact autorolling....
so...update with the new bin, then a satfile, and your channel list to save all that from happining...
DumDude,
To upload the list's from the receiver do this
You have to have the receiver connected to a tv and computer at the same time...a pain I know
you hit menu, receiver upgrade, channel information or satfile then open the loader2 program and click on STP-PC it will take A few seconds.....watch CLOSE WERE IT SAVES IT ON YOUR COMPUTER as a computer tech I see all the time were people loss files on their computer..it SHOULD place it on your desktop. Make a folder and name it receiver and dragg it their so you can find it.....do both the satfile and channel data.....must have both..
hope that helps you all |
Silver Member Username: Birdwatcher
Post Number: 623
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 12:47 am: |
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thats fuccen great, all we need now is a friggin bin. |
Bronze Member Username: Klondike_kike
Post Number: 61
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 01:06 am: |
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Silver Member Username: Birdwatcher
Post Number: 624
Registered: Jul-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 01:10 am: |
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thats fuccen great, all we need now is a friggin bin. |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
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Post Number: 2834
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 02:29 am: |
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they are coming |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
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Post Number: 2835
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 01, 2008 - 02:10 pm: |
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bunp |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
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Post Number: 2857
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 01:59 am: |
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Please read this thread before asking for help with a receiver that has lost its channels.
If I sent you here via a link that means the answers to fix your receiver can be found here. |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
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Post Number: 2892
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2008 - 07:51 pm: |
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www.dishjockey.com |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
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Post Number: 2936
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 01:22 am: |
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read |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
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Post Number: 2940
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 12:49 pm: |
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bump |
Silver Member Username: Lucia
Calgary,
AB
Post Number: 440
Registered: May-06
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| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 12:51 pm: |
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thank you FTA TESTER
now im just waiting for the 2500>2700
bin. :D |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
I WILL FIND...
Post Number: 2957
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 02:24 pm: |
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bump |
Silver Member Username: Aafl_dragon
Post Number: 245
Registered: Jun-06
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| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 02:27 pm: |
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This is really hopefully just hope people pay attention lol
Good work FTA Tester |
Silver Member Username: Lol
Post Number: 138
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 02:30 pm: |
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if he knew how to scan properly he would have more than 2400 channels on 17 sats LOL |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
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Post Number: 2962
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 02:32 pm: |
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Paul what do you mean ?
We do blind scan on each sat and look at lynsat to be sure we did not miss any transponders..
how many sat's do you get? |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
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Post Number: 3037
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 09:32 pm: |
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Total FTA-Viewsat HOME SITE:
http://www.thetotalfta.com/ (VIEWSAT and All receivers)
Future FTA - PANSAT HOME SITE:
http://www.future-fta.info/forum/index.php (Pansat)
FTA Tech - Free To Air Community:
http://www.ftatech.net/forums/ (All receivers)
Free To Air:
http://www.f2atv.com/ (C00LSAT and All receivers)
DSS Newbies:
http://www.dss-newbies.net/forums/ (All receivers)
DSS Rookie:
http://www.dssrookie.com/forums/ (All receivers)
C00LSAT
http://forums.f2atv.com
Ariza
http://www.ftatalk.com
CaptiveWorks
http://www.completefta.com
FTA
http://www.ftabins.net/ (All receivers )
Global Airway Technology Specialists:
http://www.gat-s.biz/forum/index.php (All Receivers)
Copy and Paste these into your browser:
REMOVE the * in links below:
http://www.al7bar.t*k/ (All receivers)
http://www.dsscentral.n*et/ (All Receivers)
http://www.pantecf2a*com(Pantecs,all clones and all receivers)
http://www.gat-s.biz (All receivers)
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Good for gettting Original factory firmware:
http://www.ftacentral.c*om/ (All receivers)
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Satellite Finders (Look Angle Calculators)
http://www.arachnoid.com/satfinder (Dish 500 support)
http://www.satellitenut.com/calculators/SatelliteHeading.html
http://www.hollsco.com/Products/SatCalc/
http://www3.telus.net/rampage/skew.htm (Dish 500 support)
http://www.remotesat.com/lookangle.htm
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Satellite Charts
For information on all satellites and channels they offer
http://www.lyngsat.c*om/america.html
http://www.satcodx*com/
http://www.channellist.us/satchart.htm ( great for DBS SAT's )
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Channel List
http://ekb.dbstalk.com/dishlist.htm ( unofficial DN channel list ) |
Bronze Member Username: Rustynail74
Post Number: 29
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 09:40 pm: |
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wow tester.. you got balls man!! |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
I WILL FIND...
Post Number: 3051
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 10:44 pm: |
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what do you mean by that haris? |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
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Post Number: 3059
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 10:57 pm: |
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To make a backup using the loader program
Connect your receiver to both a tv and computer.
hit menu, system Information, Receiver upgrade, go down to satellite and hit ok.....a process bar will appear then start the loader program on the host computer and hit the STB-PC button...
repeat for the channel list
make a folder on your desktop and dragg the files to it so you can find it later
now you have backups! |
Bronze Member Username: Ghostcdn
Pescara,
Abruzzo
Italia
Post Number: 30
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 11:08 pm: |
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ftatester ccc is gone if you are going to cut and paste please edit the post if needed. |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
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Post Number: 3076
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 12:14 am: |
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night everone |
Silver Member Username: Oleg1474
Florida
Usa
Post Number: 830
Registered: Aug-06
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| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 12:21 am: |
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Here we go again folks.. Bev is once again down.. Not a keys issue this time.. DN started already to with taking the international channels out. Wont be long and I bet pretty much all is down on DN.. Stay tuned folks.. Finding out what is going on..
Please dont ask when fix will be out..
Thank you !! Oleg PHD. |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
I WILL FIND...
Post Number: 3095
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 01:47 pm: |
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for those who need it |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
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Post Number: 3146
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 05:30 pm: |
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Doing the update like this will save you hours of work! |
Silver Member Username: Doreenakadj
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 968
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 05:37 pm: |
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TFT great job keep up the good posts  |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
I WILL FIND...
Post Number: 3149
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 05:44 pm: |
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Thanks Doreen I will redoing it later tonight
Its hard to make stuff here one handed! |
New member Username: Dssbss
Post Number: 2
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 05:59 pm: |
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just over write the old bin with the new ,works just fine,been doing that from the beginning with different fta,has alwas worked.do this and u do not have to reload channel list ,settings or keys, just do the KISS method works all the time. |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
I WILL FIND...
Post Number: 3167
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 07:42 pm: |
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All users as I stated in the guide above
If do like FTABS suggests you take a huge chance of data loss and you will be fighting your receiver for hours trying to get everything back. Putting in the 2 small files (satfile, channel file) takes a extra 2 minutes no big deal.. |
Bronze Member Username: Jerkisland
Post Number: 67
Registered: Mar-07
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| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 09:13 pm: |
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FTA Tester, need your help. I did as you suggested but when I load the channel file back to my viewsat exteme, I still don't see the channels. What should I do ? |
New member Username: Dssbss
Post Number: 3
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 09:38 pm: |
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I have never had a huge data loss,the more steps u use the more of a chanch to screw it up,when u write the new bin in it will erase the old bin first then write in the new bin ,why would u what to erase then write the erase then write when the program does it for u ? |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
I WILL FIND...
Post Number: 3202
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2008 - 11:59 pm: |
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FTABS
this guide is used by many users if you do not want to FINE but stop arguing its usefulness!
What you decribe their is not even close to what the guide say's.
lets break it down for you...what happens here is when you install a new bin the receiver overwrites the old one. In order to do this it takes all the memory the receiver has and in this process SOMETIMES not always but often enough it will delete some data in the channel list and or the satfile....
To save a user hours of work I suggest that you install a prefect 100% complete not missing data satfile it is a small tiny file that takes the slowest computer in the world less than 1 minute to install.....The same thing for your channel list it is a TINY file will take 1 minute
You are already here connected to the computer what is 1 more minute gonna hurt? Sure the hell beats the receiver not getting channels anymore..
I am only here to help you or any other user.
If installing the satfile and channel list offends you so much please disconnect your receiver from your TV and antenna and place it inside your trash can. |
New member Username: Dssbss
Post Number: 4
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 08:41 am: |
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I guess your knowlage of LSI chips is limited,if
u know what a eeprom does then u know what i am talking about.Most of the guides are written by
someone trying to be somebody. sorry if your skills is limited.most of the problems that people have is trying to do to much with so little.doing as i stated will cause less problems |
New member Username: Ztvonly
Post Number: 2
Registered: Dec-07
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| Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 10:01 am: |
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TO: The FTA tester
I have FLU converted to PANSAT 2700 tell me where to get this STAFILE. Give me the link plssss.
Thanks |
Bronze Member Username: Muzmurad
Post Number: 11
Registered: Apr-05
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| Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 11:36 am: |
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fta tester
i went on viesatusa.com and i couldnt find the satfile for the viewsat extreme, if you know he direct location, can ou please post here
thanks |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
I WILL FIND...
Post Number: 3263
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 01:34 pm: |
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FTABS
You are not understanding this for some reason.
We are seeing receivers lose data if a user just installs the new bin.
It takes 2 more mins to do install the satfile and channel list.
This is not about you its about EVERY user having the tools needed to easily update their receiver.
This has been proven to be the best way to have no problems.
We do not want to see users coming in here and seeing bad information like what you are posting and not doing as the guide suggests then having data loss.
I still do not see why this extra few seconds of time that will save a user hours of work would offend you so much.
Good luck with your system. |
Gold Member Username: Ke5aqn
IF I DONT KNOW THE ANSWER,
I WILL FIND...
Post Number: 3264
Registered: Sep-06
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| Posted on Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 01:36 pm: |
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The location of the satfile
General Satellite Info File (Not compatible with PVR, VSPRO, or HD Receivers)
http://www.viewsatusa.com/SATINFO_07.zip |
