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Thread: Cable or sat?? |
    
Bronze Member Username: Hockeys_back
Post Number: 50
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 10:50 pm: |
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Just got my 50" samsung plasma, and can't decide on cable or satellite HD.
any suggestions.......... |
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Silver Member Username: Tapeman
New York,
NY
Post Number: 905
Registered: Oct-06
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| Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 02:12 pm: |
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I suggest i/o cable
You can get phone, internet, HD cable TV all for about $100
Expect many changes in 2007,2008 concerning HD broadcast equipement. Cable is the least expensive solution with no contract to sign.
Also order a TVIO/DVR
But nothing yet in MPEG-4 they are all using MPEG-2 and this is one of the main reasons I won't recommend buying the equipement with Satellite services. It is better to rent them from Cable for $5 to $6 a month.
Second choice will be Verizon FIOS again all 3 for about $100.
don't get me wrong Satellite is best quality today especially DTV and DN but contract for 18 months to 2 years is a bit too much during these rapid changes in HD telvesion broadcast.
Another inexpensive methode is HDTV antenna:
Read my thread starting post# 614
http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/2/330353.html
Ask questions here in this thread
Best of luck for your HD choice
King |
Silver Member Username: Formerly_fx
Dallas,
Tx
Post Number: 254
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 12:48 am: |
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"Expect many changes in 2007,2008 concerning HD broadcast equipement."
Actually don't ecpect any changes in broadcast equipment. For many many years to come the only broadcasts available will be in 480i, (480p very rarely) 720p and 1080i. Do not hold your breath waiting for 1080p broadcasts, King will be dead and buried long before that happens.
xvxvxvx |
Silver Member Username: Tapeman
New York,
NY
Post Number: 979
Registered: Oct-06
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| Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 01:01 pm: |
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The guy is asking what is a better choice Cable or Satellite
Sorry Mr. Hockey
Too much cartoon can effect some replies
Off Topic
Sorry for Toronto and Monteral will be out tonight By NY Islenders
But I'm a big Rangers Fan
See ya at the Playoffs Hockey is Back
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Silver Member Username: Alright_boy
Post Number: 134
Registered: Jan-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 07:12 pm: |
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King, what is your best guess as to when they will go to MPEG-4? I've heard so many conflicting reports. |
Silver Member Username: Tapeman
New York,
NY
Post Number: 999
Registered: Oct-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 11:53 pm: |
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Who will go to MPEG-4
In broadcast
HD is in MPEG-4
SD in MPEG-2
Some DVRs and Tivos still use MPEG-2 to record HD until they standarize either HD or Blu-ray
Direct TV use lower HD resolution than 1920x1080i to save bandwidth but still in MPEG-4
I hope this answer your question |
Silver Member Username: Formerly_fx
Dallas,
Tx
Post Number: 262
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 04:52 pm: |
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Time to correct more bad information. Broadcast data from the broadcasters (CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX and so on) is not compressed using any compression algorithim like MPEG2 or MPEG4, so King is misleading in his response, again. Now the SAT companies rebroadcast using data compression, some (but not many) cable channels are compressed.
Besides bandwidth is more important in regard to quality than either MPEG2 or MPEG4.
xvxvxvx |
Silver Member Username: Tapeman
New York,
NY
Post Number: 1000
Registered: Oct-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 05:14 pm: |
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Are you now explaining how compression works?
I do this for a living.
Go see a doctor. Get yourself checked buddy don't ignore. |
Silver Member Username: Formerly_fx
Dallas,
Tx
Post Number: 263
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 05:28 pm: |
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I am not offering a tutorial on compression, just correcting your assertion that television data is transmitted (broadcast) in a compressed format, it is not. What does you being a sat company installer have to do with any of the posts you make anyway?
xvxvxvx |
Gold Member Username: Tapeman
New York,
NY
Post Number: 1001
Registered: Oct-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 08:16 pm: |
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Listen scoob
You sound like a nice guy
I should of not said what I got above.
I'm really sorry about it.
I do truely know this stuff very well.
I got over 50 people work under me.
So many high tech staff calling me to explain how these things work in a simple down to earth explaination.
Did it occur to you that I might be telling you the truth.
Compression is not the same as lowering resolution.
Compression in Mega pixel (like photo camera 5M or 6M)
Resolution is a frame size like 1920x1080 or 1440x1080
Encoding is both compression and frame size
Form either QPSK or MPEG or 8PSK
For HD they use MPEG-4 (8PSK)
For SD they use MPEG-2
(QPSK is for DTV instead of MPEG-2)
p= 60 frames per second
i= 30 frames per second
NTSC is 30 frames per second
PAL is 25 frames per second
every second goes by on TVscreen (for each frame)
You watched 1440x1080 or up to 1920x1080
No hard feelings (please trust me on what I say) |
Silver Member Username: Alright_boy
Post Number: 152
Registered: Jan-07
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| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 07:39 am: |
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Great answer. Thanks a lot. |
Silver Member Username: Formerly_fx
Dallas,
Tx
Post Number: 264
Registered: Mar-06
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| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 10:05 am: |
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No hard feelings from me I hope you feel the same. As for your last post in this thread I agree with it completely. What I disagreed with as I stated above is that the initial broadcast feeds that got out OTA and the one that is captured by the Sat companies and cable companies for retransmission has no compression and maximum bandwidth unless the local broadcast station chooses to multicast simultaneous digital channels which will decrease the bandwidth per channel added.
Compression techniques such as MPEG2 and MPEG4 only matter during either retransmission or when encoding/ripping to DVD's.
xvxvxvx |
Silver Member Username: Alright_boy
Post Number: 157
Registered: Jan-07
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| Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 10:25 am: |
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fx, you old av dog. Just like the old days. Really appreciate your perspective on these things. |
