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Bronze Member Username: Helpful_smurf
Post Number: 73
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 08:38 am: |
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Sounds like that might be exactly what it is. You have a warranty, use it. It's likely a 5-10 minute service call to remove the offending mote from thine eye. 
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Bob in Indio, CA Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 12:02 pm: |
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Authorized service showed up after a month of begging and said "it was not the lamp". I could have fixed a lamp myself with my spare. They did not know what the problem was with my DLP - so I have bought a spare backup flat screen HDTV so that I can put the Samsung in my pick up and drive it around with a sign on it "NO SERVICE AVAILABLE IN THE PALM SPRINGS VALLEY FOR SAMSUNG DLP HDTV'S"- and I will wait while the Authorized Service for Samsung in Yucca Valley learns how to fix it. Call their Customer service if you don't believe. Thanks for the good advice, Tom. Ah, the lessons of life. And yes, I do love the DLP, when it works ! Even tho it only cost $2700 a year ago. |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 491
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 12:25 pm: |
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A MONTH? It took a month to get service? Is this usual? Well at least you have really deep blacks!!!
Yes those who buy based on the picture quality alone are seduced by a cruel mistress in this technology.
Sorry bout your issues. Live and learn aye?
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Bob in Indio, CA Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 12:38 pm: |
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Just want to get the word out everywhere I can. What you see in the store is what you get at home, until the flashing lights come on - and lo, ye find out that your warranty covers repairs, but they have no Authorized service in the Palm Springs area. Samsung sells, but it's like a hit and run. DLP technology is great, but support is non existent for warranty problems. In the Palm Springs Valley, anyway. If one person is persuaded from buying after reading this board, it will have been a successful waste of time. |
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| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 01:05 pm: |
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RE: There are over 5 million DLP's in service from over 75 makers
DLP4me!
While I will agree DLP has merits... Keep in mind just because "allot" of something has been mfg'd that doesn't mean it's good.
Example 1: Chevrolet Vega..... The idiots made it with a aluminum block, and a CAST IRON head.... instead of making it with a CAST IRON Block, and an aluminum head to dissipate the heat! Using a cast iron head caused many a headache for the owners of this car! There was a Cosworth version with an aluminum block, aluminum head, and that was pretty decent car.
Example 2: In about 1968, 1970? Cadillac, and Oldsmobile came out with their versions of a front wheel drive luxury car, I think the Cadillac being and Eldorado and the Oldsmobile being the Tornado . The cars came STOCK with DRUM brakes... Thing is from 60 miles per hour a 1928 Ford Model A would stop FASTER... than the then at the time top-on the line Cadillac, and Oldsmobile! The car I believe did have "optional" disc brakes that could be ordered which made it stop pretty decent, but as delivered most customers got a really crappy car in the braking department.
Just because they make a bunch of something doesn't mean it's good.
Just because the sell a bunch of something doesn't mean it's good either.
Fools will buy anything if marketed /promoted properly. |
Silver Member Username: Dlp4me
Post Number: 146
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 01:15 pm: |
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Whatever...
Sorry about the service dilema, Bob.
Dallas is next day. |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 495
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 06:38 pm: |
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>>>> If one person is persuaded from buying after reading this board, it will have been a successful waste of time.<<<
Thats been my point Bob...LOL
But one should ALWAYS check for local AUTHORIZED service centers BEFORE they make such an expensive purchase. |
To Those that say Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 09:08 pm: |
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RE: Whatever
DLP4me!,
Yea whatever...
I think that you are a shill for one of the mfg's, or have stock in the companies.
SHILL= Someone who works for a company that cruises the Internet forums doing "damage control", but says they are not associated with any company.
A SHILL I guess could also be someone that has a vested financial interest, such as someone who owned stock, or had a business or whatever to keep the gravy ride from ending.
You seem to know allot of details that persons on the inside would be privy to so I think you are a shill.
DLP4me! is a SHILL. |
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| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 09:09 pm: |
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RE: Whatever
DLP4me!,
Yea whatever...
I think that you are a shill for one of the mfg's, or have stock in the companies.
SHILL= Someone who works for a company that cruises the Internet forums doing "damage control", but says they are not associated with any company.
A SHILL I guess could also be someone that has a vested financial interest, such as someone who owned stock, or had a business or whatever to keep the gravy ride from ending.
You seem to know allot of details that persons on the inside would be privy to so I think you are a shill.
DLP4me! = SHILL. |
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| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 09:29 pm: |
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RE: But one should ALWAYS check for local AUTHORIZED service centers BEFORE they make such an expensive purchase.
Mr Bong,
While I agree with that advice, as you and I both know most service centers due to the fact this "new" models keep on coming out so fast really have NO clue. (Same goes for the factory "tech" support in some regards)
The thing is these days the new models are being pumped out so fast that there is not much of a knowledge base, IF they change the design of the product each year.
It takes a while (a year or two, or three?) for "techs" to figure out what part "failed" when a problem arises. That's why I try (but am not always successful) in resisting purchasing most any product until it has been in production for a while.
Personally and Professionally while I am intrigued, and excited by new "technology".... I find that for the most part that companies release product to market without enough real-world testing, leaving the consumer to do the beta testing for them.
This is true in ANY field. Most any type of product.
For that that do not agree I would ask you, Would you rather board a plane that had been hastily brought to market due to market issues (I.E. Beat the other company to the retail sales floor to capture the market)
Or would you rather board a DC-3.... that has a proven record, and the techs know the plane backwards and forwards? |
Silver Member Username: Dlp4me
Post Number: 151
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 11:23 pm: |
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LOL
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To Those that say Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 12:12 am: |
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So I guess MR SHILL, AKA =MR DLP4me!
That you you rather board a plane that had been hastily brought to market due to market issues (I.E. Beat the other company to the retail sales floor to capture the market)
VS, boarding a DC-3.... that has a proven record, and the techs know the plane backwards and forwards?
So your saying:
You'd rather have a "new" model come out every six months... ALL new models with the customer in effect doing the beta testing?
(This model works great if your in the pacemaker mfg'ing business, I guess if you are in charge of marketing, You'd say about the pacemakers that were rated at NINE YEARS failing in 1 YEAR, that " WE here at DLP4me! Pacemaker mfg'ing" have NO "complaining", unhappy customers....
Yea you could say that IF your pacemaker failed at 1 YEAR, since it's hard to complain when your dead.)
So you think it is a good thing to have "techs' that because there are so many new models coming out not know which way is UP?
Would it be a GOOD thing if the airplane you were on used rivets or adhesives that FAILED way before the rated time? |
Silver Member Username: Dlp4me
Post Number: 168
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 12:28 am: |
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"ALL new models with the customer in effect doing the beta testing?"
Of course we are doing the beta testing!
It's a tv, not a jet or a pacemaker.
They have their 1 year coverage on it.
I've heard of them extending an additional 6 months after a repair too.
Yea...we are the beta testers in any industry!
Many have died in SUV rollovers.
Many have died in auto tire failures.
Several died as a result of the current cruise control switch recall. You know...they burst into flames whether you're in the car or not!
Some get a bum contractor on their new house.
That's life!
It's not a perfect world.
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earndog Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 03:45 pm: |
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Tom,
I want to spend between $2,000 and $3,000 on a flat pannel TV. What would you buy?
Confused in MN |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 505
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 12:35 am: |
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Well I would join Costco if you have one. And look at their Plasmas and LCDs. (not rear projection)
Im assuming you want a real flat panel.
These are Costco offerings
Sharp Aquos 37" is a well known and respected TV for $2000
For a larger screen have a look at the Kreisen 40" LCD $2500
http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/10381/135363.html
In the Plasma world the Optima 50" is nice at $2600
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11063863&whse=BC&topnav=&cat=33 14&hierPath=79*3314*
There is an Akai ion the stores and some others in your price range.
Now the reason I would not buy anywhere but Costco is becasue the technology is relatively new and eeven Consumer reports is now reccommending the purchase of an EW. (I don't buy them on anthing I am way ANTI EW)LOL
Costco has an "indefinate " return period. Kinda like a lifetime guarentee like Aears has on their Craftsman tools. IF the TV fails after say three years they WILL accept it as a retun and replace it or refund your money. With that said I am sure if you have issue during the warranty period you have the option of geting it serviced or bringing it back, I would call for warranty service first. IN that way if I had issues after the warranty period I would feel much more justified in returning the TV to Costco after two or three years with documented evidance I went to the manufacturer first in the beginning.
I would NOT buy these sets at any retailer with a 30 day retun policy or where you would have to spend another $400 for an EW.
If you want to get a 42" Plasma for less then $1600 Wal MArt has their "house brand" iLO for that price and an EW for that is only around $100 for three years. With all these "off brands" making these TVs I have to come to the conclusion they are easy and pretty cheap to make...Semms anyone can make them, Much like PCs. |
earndog Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 04:22 pm: |
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Thanks Tom,
After reading this forum and interviewing some of the sales reps at Best Buy and CC I have decided to go with Plasma over DLP... You have helped make a very confusing situation crystal clear! |
T0m Bong Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 06:54 pm: |
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Your welcome Tom, er I mean Earndog who is an entirely separate entity from myself. |
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 09:35 pm: |
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DLP4me!
(AKA "THE SHILL")
(SHILL = Meaning he either works for or has vested interest in the subject being talked about, but says they do not.)
You sort of missing the point. Yes I know nothing is perfect. The point is ALL products have a projected lifespan.
And the marketing dept uses that info to write ad copy to SELL whatever product to potential buyers.
Buyers use that info to decide which item to purchase.
If that info is FALSE, and or misleading the buyer gets burned.
LEts say you have 2 products rated at the same amount of time... The first one in which they gave a rating of 10,000 hours.... (and 99.05% product give that rating, and then some)
And then the product sold by the DLP4ME! Corporation.... that only 50% will reach the rated time.
Which product would you want to buy, ride in, fly in, etc.
Which company would you want making say, "Brake pads" for your car?
Do you want the company that made those pads to use the rating system that these "LAMP" mfg's use?
(If so you better make sure yoiur life insurance is paid up for your wife's sake!)
How about the company that made the insulation in your razor, the drill you may use on a wet day, that extension cord drapped accross a wet lawn, or thru the mud on a wet day, and your standing in the puddle...
How about the insulation inside that DLP Super Duper TV set you have that you love so much?
Would you like it if that insulation was sub-standard, that it had been rated as one thing, when it was not and it burned your house down?
Memorize this for your next meeting with your handlers...
Under promise, Over deliver.
NOT,
Over promise, and under deliver.
Rate stuff at what 98% of the product will reach/do... Instead of 50%.
50% is a joke. |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 510
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 10:08 pm: |
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I have not now nor have I EVER posted a word in this forum under any name but Tom Bong and sign on EVRYTIME under Tombo777.
IF people are taking my opinions and deciding I relect wht they know to be true and act on that so be it.
Here is a prediction for you DLP lovers....2005 will be the peak of DLP sales, Mark this post. |
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 11:38 am: |
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I have Samsung 4663 , It stopped working , replaced ac fuse .Now the lamp and temp. lights flash from the moment you plug it in. Replaced lamp , same results.Ant ideas?
Thanks. |
Pavelow Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 01:43 pm: |
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tom bong,
According to the FCC, at least 80% of programming broadcasting from a TV station must be in HD. The private sector has taken this to court, I think, and I don't know the latest status. But the Best Buy guy was sort-of correct. |
Pavelow Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 01:43 pm: |
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tom bong,
According to the FCC, at least 80% of programming broadcasting from a TV station must be in HD by Jun/Jul 2006. The private sector has taken this to court, I think, and I don't know the latest status. But the Best Buy guy was sort-of correct. |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 517
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 07:21 pm: |
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NOT HD..there is no mandate to broadcast IN HD, No such thing in fact. They meust broadcast DTV which carries HD and Standard TV...BIG DIFFERENCE
For example: All Satelitte is already digitally "broadcast" But most is not in HD.
Don't confuse the broadcast carrier signal with the content of that signal. You can broadcast a low rez 4:3 MPEG2 digitally and be well within the FCC mandate.
A quick look at the weather channel on sattelite and you will see the terrible scaling of 480i Standard content being manipulated to display on a fixed Pixel display.
BTW The FCC has also mandated that broadcasters include ATSC tuners in 50% of their TVs by July 2005. (
Yet no Akai has one for one instance) |
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 10:54 pm: |
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Sometimes when I turn on my Samsung DLP TV the picture is red or blue or green. I have to turn the set off, let the lamp turn off and then turn it back on. The picture is fine then...any ideas? |
marcopolo Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 11:20 pm: |
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I want to buy DLP Samsung HL-P5063W. What do you think about the factory refurbished ones? They are under $1600 with shipping. What did they do to it? Is it like new os has it some glitches?
And is it possible to buy extended warranty for refurbished product and where? It has only 90 days.
Thanks for the help.
(Your posts are great, DLP4me!) |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 597
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 12:13 am: |
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OMG you have some BIG BAlls. The new ones are having issues and you want a refurb. I have heard of the line "glutton for punishment" Now I have a total understanding of the meaning of that thought.
Good Luck. LOL |
marcopolo Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 01:57 am: |
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Any REAL and HELPFUL advice from someone else would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. |
Bronze Member Username: Helpful_smurf
Post Number: 90
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 07:21 am: |
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I would advise against it specifically because it is a 5063, the fact that it's a refurb is just icing on the cake of wariness I would have about it. |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 605
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| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 12:08 pm: |
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HOw many millions of those "terrible" 5063's did Samsung sell to unsuspecting buyers?
You make my point beautifully as a Best Buy Sales dweeb. But ALL of today's products are "fixed" Bwahahahahaha. |
New member Username: Pavelow3
Post Number: 4
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| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 10:49 am: |
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Marcopolo,
Buying a refurb is a very bad idea. That 5063 had many problems and is the reason there are refurbs for sale. Stay away from it. You'll get what you pay for, a headache in 90 days. |
New member Username: Pavelow3
Post Number: 5
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| Posted on Monday, September 19, 2005 - 10:54 am: |
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Tom bong,
Yes, I knew about the 50% ATSC tuners as well. It is why Samsung has been forced to start carrying them in some new models. I don't doubt your knowledge of the FCC rule. I'll have to go read it for myself. Interesting distinction. The head technical director of KNME in Albuquerque was my source of info. I'll have to ask him what he really said to me 2 years ago. |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 646
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 04:03 pm: |
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Yep. HD is not mandatory ever.
Don't confuse the carrier with the content. |
Jasper-010101 Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 06:33 pm: |
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Tom bong is so fvcking stupid!
He doesn't know jack sh!t about HD, the FCC, or market forces.
Commercial marketing and ratings will force HD to become the standard sooner rather than later.
Direct tv launched two birds for mpeg4 conversion to HD in 06. Everyone else better be competative or prepare to loose market share. |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 658
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 12:32 am: |
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LOL they always resort to namecalling when losing the debate. -Debate 101
Only 20% of the us Televisions are HD 7 years later.
I don't see market forces at work there.
I say later rather then sooner. Any big TV expendutures should wait unti there is compelling content. Common sense 101. You don't buy a computer before the software.
Direct TV better do something they have lost so much market share to DISH..LOL
BTW What will they be converting? reruns of the Brady Bunch? |
New member Username: Maulrat
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 12:48 am: |
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Reruns of Brady Bunch..maybe...
Just curious though Tom, what exactly would you want to see broadcast in HD to make it worth your while? Sure, there is some lame stuff shown in HD- swamp buggy racing and whatever other examples there maybe. But pretty much every new primetime show is broadcast in HD, movies on HBOHD, STARZHD, SHOWTIMEHD, sports on ESPNHD, Discovery HD- all HD...just to name a few. What is it that you watch/want to see? |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 666
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 11:00 am: |
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I want to turn on the TV and no matter where I go the PQ looks the same. I do not wnat my TV to have to upconvert downconvert and or otherwise scale an already compressed MPEG 2 signal resulting in the display of clay like images.
I do not want to be forced to pay extra for a small rare group of channels called the "HD tier" where 5 channels repeat the same shows all day long. If we lived in a primtime TV world like 20 years ago I would be satisfied with the amount of content. But prometime fare leaves much to be desired as those who pay for more then the local stations on Cable apparently agree with.
I want HD to be the standard not the exception. Is that to much to ask when spending $3000 on a TV?
Apparently not for 15% of the population with large screen HDTVs. But I am sure the other 85% or so will understand that simple economic's lesson.
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New member Username: Lee_g
Post Number: 3
Registered: Sep-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 01:08 pm: |
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Tom Bong, if I understand your argument, your points are: that the new technology (DLP, plasma, etc.) isn't proven yet; RP CRT is the way to go; DLP buyers are idiots, etc.; down time is ridiculous and unmanageable; you're going to save potential DLP buyers from their misery; why buy a $20k car and spend $2k for brakes annually; etc. Okay, I'm going to take a crack at this, just for fun.
If you know of an RP CRT TV that has a 52" screen, weighs about 105 pounds, and is not more than 18" deep and 49" wide, let me know and I will seriously consider it. My unit fits perfectly in an existing space in my bookcase so your alternative can't be any wider or deeper than those dimensions. Also, I do have to move it from time to time and since my back is somewhat finicky the difference between 225 pounds or so and 105 pounds or so is important. I looked at all the comparisons between plasma and other technologies. I am impressed by picture quality of all of them - my eyes can't discern enough difference in most cases to justify the extra cost of the plasma, for example, although I may buy a plasma later to hang on the wall in the bedroom. If mine does go down for an extended period, I'll either watch one of the 15-year-old 21" sets I've got in another room or I might move one into the den, so the down time will be an inconvenience but it's certainly manageable for a patient, mature adult like me (patient - at leat that's what I keep telling my wife).
Now the brakes analogy. I have two cars. One gets about 35k miles out of a set of tires, a complete set of 4 costs less than $800, we do balance them at least every 6 months. It's got about 70k miles and I don't remember changing the brake pads yet, although we might have and I've forgotten (we do get tires and oil serviced regularly and our 25-year tire guy checks the brakes for us). Beyond that, this car virtually never goes in the shop - I think 100k is the recommendation for spark plugs - so almost no cost there. It is a model that was known for an above-average incidence of transmission problems; we knew about them ahead of time, bought the car anyway, and we've been lucky so far. The second car is different. Its tires cost about $1400 per set of 4. I get as little as 8k miles out of those tires. Service is required every 15k and it's expensive - it's not just an oil change. I've changed the brake pads twice in about 40,000 miles in not quite three years (cost about $350 per set). Insurance is about 4 times the cost of the first car. Gas mileage is significantly worse than the first car. The second car is also not as generally reliable as the first car - I've had a couple of things go wrong causing trips for unscheduled maintenance. Which is the better car? Depends. The first one hauls 7 kids to school in carpool or several sheets of plywood, my choice. The second car is built to do something else entirely and it does that better than most of the other cars you'll see anywhere. By your logic, the first car is obviously the better choice, because the 2nd requires more maintenance and uses more consumables. By your logic, anybody that would buy the second car must be an idiot, right? Most buyers, including me, know ahead of time that it will cost more because consumables will be more costly and scheduled service will be more expensive. They also know about the reliability issues and generally know exactly what leads to them. Nonetheless, we buy anyway. Bad decision? Are we idiots, in this case? I doubt it - I bought both cars on different criteria. Just like the TV. I knew the lamp might be a problem. I knew it might cost me, say, $350 per year to change it. As far as I'm concerned it *is* just another form of consumable. If I compare the cost of that consumable to the cost of carpentry to accomodate my RP CRT options, I'm still ahead of the game. I like it. I've also got a 9" portable I like when I'm on the treadmill and when that $109 Emerson breaks I'll buy another one just like it. You've harped on the lamp/brake analogy all over the place. It's one of the criteria of several that people consider. RP CRTs are good choices for some people but so are DLPs if the criteria are different. Your conclusion is certainly valid based on the criteria and weights you assign to them but since we're probably all different from you, we can all logically reach good decisions that are different than yours. There is no logical basis, so far, on which you can impugn the character, logic, or intelligence of the existing DLP owners because there is absolutely no way you can know what their criteria were.
Do you really want to be constructive or are you really trying to be destructive? Somewhere in these threads you implied that you were so smart and successful that you either weren't working or didn't have to. If that's so, I'm happy for you. You've also said, I think, that you like to poke fun at the DLP owners and warn the potential DLP owners. Poking fun is one thing, and I'm going to attempt that in a future post. You've taken it beyond fun - you've hijacked the thread and taken it to the level of deliberate insults that are uncalled for. Since you do appear to be pretty bright, you should be able to see that. If you want to inform potential owners, start a thread with a comparison of technologies - pluses and minuses of all of them. Include some good keywords so googlers will find it. Bump it so it stays at the top. Do it objectively and you will do some good. If you do it that way, it clears up a lot of these threads so the rest of us can get on with trying to find the answers to questions we actually care about and you'll probably gain a lot of respect from the users of this and other threads. |
New member Username: Lee_g
Post Number: 4
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 01:16 pm: |
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And now for the lighter side...
I've been reading some of these threads for the entertainment value of the mudslinging. IMHO, the quality isn't up to other threads I've seen on the web. I have gained valuable information and I have seen the occasional example of wonderful humor. Your humble correspondent will now (oh, so humbly) take the second step, the poking fun in good humor step, of trying to steer this thread a little differently:
Top 5 reasons to buy RP CRT TVs:
1. The size and bulk make a good visual counterbalance to my Barcalounger.
2. When installed low in an entertainment unit, it lowers the center of gravity and anchors the unit so that it won't tip over when young children climb on the furniture.
3. I *love* it when people talk dirty about good convergence...
4. Versatility: moving it around adds an important element to my fitness program
5. Opportunity to practice woodworking to accomodate it.
AND...
Top 5 reasos to buy DLP TVs:
1. For highly social people, they offer a great opportunity to meet new people as you get acquainted with customer support staffs and service technicians.
2. Versatility: Half of the screen holds sticky note reminders and the other half holds a calendar. The three flashing lights on the front are special notice for everyone to check when something important is posted.
3. Some of the screens do double duty: you can watch the TV program you're interested in and watch a reflection of what's going on behind you at the same time.
4. Some offer a reminder of the freshness of a spring shower and a burst of color, also known as the rainbow effect.
5. Good opportunities to work on your diagnostic skills to figure out whether it's the fan or the color wheel that's the problem and to work on your handyman skills when you learn to replace the lamp.
Others?
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 675
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 01:35 pm: |
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Look kind sir, I tried to start my own independant threads informing people of my alternative opinions. Read the responses! They attacked me personally and pizzed all over my opinion. So I feel more then justified in returning the favor....They have posted threads attempting to discredit my opinion. I rather think it's a good thing becasue the more they trash me and my opinion the more weight it has to reasonable people.
Now with regard to your reply to my analogy:
The second car is obviously a "special interest" car bought by enthusiasts who are aware of the pitfalls. My message is not to "video enthusiasts" who scrutinize the tiniest display deatials down to the pixel. My message is to the average Joe who thinks he is getting the first car but ends up with the second.....My message is to warn him of the hype and true cost of ownership over wht he is used to. Some have actually been greatful fro that information and decided to wait and research more. Thats my "reward" here. Not the enthusuasts who buy product for prestige ot those who cannot stand to be on the trailing edge of technology. Yet they are the ones who are the loudest and most crude in the deep need to protect and defend their choice. I find that very telling.
Let me put it this way. I find the iPOD the Holy Grail for music players. I post in the user forums. We sahre information on use issues etc like any forum. There are those who hate anything MAC and come into the forums and spew all kinds of venom on my beloved iPod. The revel in our (few) difficulties. They reccomend their non iPod solutions which are valid for them and have made perfect sense to a few who have come to do some research on the forum some of them have decided to buy the IRiver instead because of things the MAC haters point out.
I m not offended nor do I EVEN RESPOND to them, I am happy with my choice, I do not feel I have to protect the Ipod in any way or see that more are sold.
There is a very small handful here, some who post under a few names each who feel they have the right to silence my opinion. The job to defend the technology. A few of them either sell it or work for designers of it. Go figure. When they cannot do it with logic. They start posting in BOLD and cutin and pasting the same drool. I find that amusing yes. I do think it plays into my message to those who can see the absolute fanaticism of these few people and it plays against their credibility and causes the reader to research more.
I do not care if they buy or not buy a certain technology. I have no axe to grind there. Its their money. Their problem, I only ask that they truly research the issues and make a decision based on that. If they choose not to buy it maybe the maufacturers will step up to the plate.
I am not credible alone. I am not the last word. I implore them not to believe me over all others. I do ask them to DO THE RESEARCH.... I am only part of that research.
My conclusions are based on my own research most of which came from this board and others.
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To Those that say Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 01:57 pm: |
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http://forum.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=457772#POST457772
Gentlemen,
As most everyone here knows Tom Bong has NO class, and continues to post in almost every thread his rantings. I believe everyone here should e-mail the admin's of this board. (Instructions at bottom of this post)
He has been asked nicely several times to bow out of threads that do not directly affect him. http://forum.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=456260#POST456260
Another case in point would be the below thread, BONG does not own, or intend to BUY a lamp based set, but yet posts the same SPAM, over and over again.
According to Bong, it won't do any good, he says he doesn't have a static ISP, that he's not going away http://forum.ecoustics.com/cgi-bin/bbs/show.pl?tpc=2&post=457702#POST457702
Class act, let me tell you.
How about EVERYONE here e-mailing the ADMIN's of this board about him. The e-mail address is on the help /rules /instruction page: http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/board-instructions.html
Look for "Where to get further information", click on CONTACT link, You can't PM the ADMIN (doesn't work), But there IS a e-mail link right under it "Please address general questions and concerns to" |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 687
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 02:27 pm: |
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Cry me a friggin river already!
Keep trying. You may get a groundswell,....nah most people don't really care that much. |
Mr Thompson Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 06:39 pm: |
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Bought my Samsung HLP5067W online, no warranty, no returns, great price. Unboxxed it and plugged it in. Love at first sight. Went to work and came home, tv would not turn on.Same story I've now read many, many times, standby + Lamp + timer flashing. Powercycling worked most of the time, although there were days that it would take 20 minutes to get it lit. Samsung provides 1 yr. warranty and extended it by 6 months willingly. They sent a tech to my home and replaced the ballast and lamp, problem seems to be solved. I have yet to experience how frequently these hardware failures will occur but I would still defend Samsung although I am dissappointed that a DLP in its 3rd generation still has so many problems that are obviously widespread. All of the forums about samsung dlps show numerous cases of the same problem. BTW...I think Tom Bong is humorous even if I don't agree with all he says. CRT was/is reliable but rear projection crt in my experience had major convergence issues. Either way, spend what you're willing to pay, buy the technology that you like, and live with the consequences.
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Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 696
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 08:26 pm: |
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Some people do not find humor in my posts. Glad to see you get it even though you don't agree.
A slightly misconverged RPCRT has a better standard TV picyure then any RP fixed pixel out of the box. |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 735
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 01:13 pm: |
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bump |
Silver Member Username: Fyi
Dallas,
Texas
Post Number: 272
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 02:06 pm: |
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Your lamp was damaged during shipping.
It's a common occurance.
I think they should ship lamps seperately in bubble wrap.
They haven't caught on to the this solution yet.
I'm a ham operator and we never ship radio amplifiers with the power tubes in them. Lamps are no different.
You're set will be trouble-free for a long time now.
Enjoy! |
Silver Member Username: Tombo777
Post Number: 746
Registered: Jul-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 03:23 pm: |
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>>>>You're set will be trouble-free for a long time now. <<<<
At least 18 months....if you are one of the lucky ones. |
Silver Member Username: Fyi
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