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Username: Kia123

Encino, CA
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Post Number: 2
Registered: Dec-05
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i have a problem with my pansat2700 it randomly shuts off and on can anyone plz help
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Username: Ikaleem

Post Number: 34
Registered: Nov-05
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kia

Load the new bin 140 and you should be okay..i am pretty sure you are using bin 132
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Username: Slo_hand2

Post Number: 306
Registered: May-05
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good advice Wizard I think you might be right, if nothing else it is worth a shot.
Glad to see someone is helping here
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Username: Thill1951akalk

Post Number: 1110
Registered: Oct-05
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Yes it realy does help the people with problems and questions, if they provide as much info as posible..if they would like helpful replies and possible fixes to their questions /problems..I think the Wiz is correct cause it just happens that rebooting by itself is a strange character of the Pansat 2700 132 bin....good call there Wiz, based upon the little info U were given..
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Username: Maple_leaf

Post Number: 1120
Registered: Apr-05
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Me too. I'm glad he's got his question answered.
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where can i download the bin file 140, can someone pls send me a link
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Username: Slo_hand2

Post Number: 308
Registered: May-05
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a good place is future-FTA.com but there are many others as well
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Username: Ikaleem

Post Number: 35
Registered: Nov-05
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glad to help guys....:-)
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gemtomas
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Please help me with international russian channels /perviy kanal ntv america rntv+/
or if u can send me an email gemtomas@yahoo.com with some informantion i can pay for good informantion .
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Username: Ikaleem

Post Number: 41
Registered: Nov-05
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russina channels are available on Dishnet 61.5 and 148...what FTA are you using?? please post more details
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gemtomas
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i have c oolsat 4000 plus lnb is UNIVERSAL TWIN KU BAND LNBF LNB - FTA FORTEC PANSAT i have catched some international channels /indian z movie / but russian channels are scranbled what can i do plzzzzz help me
Wizard Of OZ thanks for trying help
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gemtomas
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what is the differents between circular and ku band lnbs
is the russian chanels can be chached with circular lnbs ?
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Username: Thill1951akalk

Post Number: 1156
Registered: Oct-05
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Circular & Linear LNB's: What's the difference?

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OK everyone, put your polarizing sunglasses on.

What's the difference?
Answer: About -3dB or half the signal level.

Now take your sunglasses off. Notice how bright it is in here? The difference in brightness is an example of using the wrong lnb type.

Circular and Linear polarization refer to the characteristics of the radio wave that is transmitted by the satellite towards your dish/LNB. Below are links to visual comparisons of Circular (Left or Right-hand) and Linear (Vertical or Horizontal) polarization.
http://www.barco.com/projection_syst...&circulair.jpg
http://repairfaq.cis.upenn.edu/sam/icets/VHB6-6.gif

Circular polarization refers to a wave of radio signal rotating in a spiral. This spiral can be rotating in either the clockwise ("R"ight-hand) or counterclockwise ("L"eft-hand) direction. Think of an approaching airplane as the plane's propellar is moving towards you.

The following example satellites (visable in N.America) are transmitting with a circular polarized signal:

EchoStar 3 @61.5°W http://www.lyngsat.c o m/echo3.html
Nimiq 2 @82.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c o m/nimiq2.html
Nimiq 1/3 @91.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c o m/nimiq1.html
EchoStar 6/8 @110.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c o m/110west.html
EchoStar 7 @119.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c o m/echo7.html
EchoStar 1/2 @148.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c o m/148west.html

How do I know they are circularly polarized?
If you click on any one of the links for the satellites above you will notice that under the first column labeled as "Freq. Tp" you will find one of the following single letter designations:

"R" = right-hand (=circular polarization)
"L" = left-hand (=circular polarization)

So what about linear polarization?
Linear polarization refers to a wave of radio signal rotating in a single plane. Think of an approaching helicopter as the helicopter's main rotor is moving towards you. It is rotating in a single, horizontal plane. The same approaching helicopter's smaller rear rotor is rotating in a single, vertical plane. In our satellite case it can be either in the "H"orizontal or "V"ertical plane.

The following example satellites (visable in N.America) are transmitting with a linear polarized signal:

SBS 6 @74.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c o m/sbs6.html
AMC 5 @79.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c o m/amc5.html
AMC 9 @85.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c o m/amc9.html
IA 6 @93.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c o m/ia6.html
IA 5 @97.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c o m/ia5.html
AMC 1 @103.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c om/amc1.html
AMC 2 at 105.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c om/amc2.html
EchoStar 9 @121.0°W http://www.lyngsat.c om/echo9ia13.html

Again, under the first column labeled as "Freq. Tp" you will find one of the following single letter designations:

"V" = vertical (=linear polarization)
"H" = horizontal (=linear polarization)

Now that you understand the difference between the two satellite polarization types please put your polarizing sunglasses back on.

Hmmm, a little harder to read this right? Well, that's what happens to your receiver when you try to use a linear polarized LNB to receive a circular polarized satellite signal and vis-a-versa. About a 50% loss of signal!

Armed with the invaluable information you now possess, by using this link http://www.lyngsat.c om/america.html you can determine for yourself what type of LNB you will need for each satellite.

If you need a circular polarized LNB look for words describing it as "DSS" or "DBS" or "circular" or a combination of these terms.

If you need a linear polarized LNB look for words describing it as "FSS" or "FTA" or "linear" or a combination of these terms (FYI: All Universal LNB's are linear LNB's).





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Quote:
...you could use linear LNB to get circular signal with 50% signal lost.



You will need a large dish to compensate for this loss.


Quote:
...you can't use circular LNB to get linear signal.


Technically incorrect. Trying to receive linear polarized signals with a circular polarized lnb (antenna) is possible with the same 3dB/50% loss of signal.

The actual reason why you most likely cannot receive linear signals with circular lnb's is because most all "DSS" circular polarized lnb's are incapable of receiving the frequecies at which linear FSS signals occur:

Standard FSS LNB (11.7-12.2 GHz)
-------->DSS LNB (12.2-12.75 GHz)

Universal FSS LNB (10.7-12.75 GHz) <-- has wide bandwidth
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gemtomas
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Thrill 1951 Thank you very much i understood everything you said thank you again
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gemtomas
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my russian chanels are still scranbled :-((
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gemtomas
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I have coo lsat 4000 plus LMB is UNIVERSAL TWIN KU BAND LNBF LNB - FTA FORTEC PANSAT
RF:10.70-70GHz/11.70-12.75GHz
If:950-1950MHz/1100-2150Mhz
LO:9.750GHz/10.600 GHz
GAIN:55dB
NOISE FIGURE:0.5dB

Dish setting is Echostar 9
LMB power is ON
LMB type is Universal
LNB Freq 9.750/10.600
22KHz Auto
DiSeEqC Switch 1.0
Committed 1
Legacy SW 0ff
Level 65%
Quality 78%

Now im trying to catch ARMTV/armenian tv RNTV.NTV america and other international channels
and now i have catched ARMTV and some indian channels the frist cupple of seconds clearly and then it showed on the screen NO OR BAD SIGNAL. And when i trun the reciver off and turn it back on it shows for an cupple of seconds and then again it shows NO OR BAD SIGNAL.

Please help with this matter
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