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Thread: IS N2 HACK A TRUE N2 HACK??? |
   
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| Posted on Monday, September 12, 2005 - 12:19 pm: |
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Got this from future-fta.com Cut & Paste ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Borrowing from the still active N1 stream to pull the continuously changing Control Words and plugging them back into the now 'black' N2 channels is hardly an N2 hack....this is nothing but an enhanced N1 emulation trick. When the N2 conversion is complete and the N1 data stream is completely turned off there will be no way to decrypt the control words without a dump of a Nagravision 2 conditional access module (card or chip-on-board). Free to No-Where is hardly a viable solution to N2. I predict card cloning will be the only viable solution, and that won't happen until after the new cards are dumped......and of course that won't happen unless some major industrial espionage happens like last time. There is no hack for any N2 smart card anywhere in the world but while the upgrade is being performed and both N1 and N2 coexist it is possible to 'fool' your receiver and substitute the control word using an N1 based device. Try this with an older receiver (Baker series, 2000, 3000 and 4000 series).....Load a Rom 2 card with a subscription bin....set your receiver to a fully working N1 channel....then set your receiver to 'black/muted' N2 channel....use the Recall button on the remote a few times.....eventually the receiver will glitch and the N2 channel will come through for a few seconds.... In an upcoming receiver firmware upgrade which will be released when the N1 stream is retired, a number of routines will be executed to validate the presence of a genuine smart card and its embedded software. The receiver will disable itself (subject to a hard reset) if an emulator or an invalid smart card is used. This should make 'testing' a frustrating nightmare..... Channel Tiers on N2 cards are only pre-enabled for 4-6 weeks in advance.....DeSub Blockers or the practice of subscribing then canceling while storing your receiver for a couple of months won't work. Without a dump of an active N2 smart card it is impossible for any receiver including a generic MPEG-2 receiver (like a FTA unit) to emulate and decrypt the data stream with any kind of reliability..... FYI......Reverse DCT does work with conditional-access-limited MPEG-2 data but it takes about 30 seconds to rebuild a group of pictures that are inter-frame related....this technique would work with any so-called 'encoded' MPEG-2 video since the art is not Control Word based but it is slow since it is based on macroblock regrouping. It is completely ridiculous to suggest that any device other than a valid N2 smart card is capable of decrypting the N2 data stream....unless such a claim is supported by evidence or some reasonable basis.....a concert of anecdotal claims such as those purported on various chat forums hardly qualifies. I've stated previously that the present so-called N2 hack is nothing more than a revised N1 emulation technique whereby the control words are being borrowed. I provided a real world test that anyone can conduct to confirm my statements. This is precisely the trick....and its nothing short of a scam to suggest otherwise. The only lost souls 'pushing' free to air receivers are rogue dealers trying to unload a bunch of soon to be obsolete inventory on a bunch of misinformed consumers who are 5 years late for the party....which has now ended. |
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New member Username: Richie66
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Post Number: 3 Registered: Aug-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 06:55 pm: |
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If that is true explain to me why am I wathing PPV in N2????? here in europe they change there N1 to N2 almost a year ago?????? Gr Richie N2 is open rom101 and is is not a hoax. The story above here comes from the N2 it self to scar people off.
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 07:12 pm: |
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No S_it I've seen this post here by LK? (maybe, who knows)? and at several others sites!!! Screw cutting and pasting this again people, please... |
   
n2 not hacked Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 07:58 pm: |
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I don't think that the n2 in europe is the same as the n2 thats in north america so as far as n2 been hacked in NA we'll have to wait and see. |
   
del sol Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 08:01 pm: |
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is there a new auto roll for the ultra life time i am only getting a few channels
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 08:07 pm: |
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You're not the only one that having this problem. Charlie just hit so all FTA's are experience this now. No P0rn, no PPV, PPV sport, who knows what else. |
   
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 08:08 pm: |
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Hey, The Sun...We're all in the same boat, or haven't you read the latest posts? N2 went down today for everybody! |
   
del sol Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 09:11 pm: |
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ok that makes me feel better is there a fix out there
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 09:52 pm: |
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Latest news: Sept. 13 2005 The Nagra2 FTA Hack goes down At about 2:00 pm EST today all free-to-air Nagra 2 channels went down. according to popular belief the po* rn channels went through a key that was changed on those channels on Aug 30-ish,Now the rest of the Nagra 2 channels have began using the same key (which is not decoded or available like the old N1 keys), which are not working with FTA receivers. The test is now on, to see how fast they can fix this (or update the key change) some are saying "end of days" others are saying "end of today" we will see as the whole world is watching now. |
   
POINT BLANK Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 10:09 pm: |
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GAME OVER WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF TRUE FTA |
   
Bronze Member Username: Jdq
Post Number: 41 Registered: Apr-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 10:11 pm: |
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Hey Blank why you even bother posting |
   
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2005 - 10:59 pm: |
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Charlie propaganda! Maybe the real game has just begun sucker! Time shall tell eh? |
   
New member Username: Richie66
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Post Number: 4 Registered: Aug-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 02:23 am: |
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My dad lives in CA still watching everything incl. the PPV with his DB500, People if you have the right software then you still have picture. N2 in Europe is the same as in the US, N2 came from the US and I have still watching all the PPV, sport, on this site in N2 signal. Gr Richie
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 02:45 am: |
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No more fix for fta... sorry guys... |
   
Soung Hi Young Dong Fong Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 02:53 am: |
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OOO WTF man!!!! wasted all my money on the reciever i just got today!!!!!!!!!!! |
   
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 07:05 am: |
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Lk I think personally you don't know anything about the Hack of rom 101 you try to act really big that it is coming from yourself please stop trying to piss people off at this form and Anonymous same to you.
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 11:52 am: |
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Cannot write a bin without the keys or access to the keys..and the coders don't have any way to get the N2 keys ....and this alogrithm story is pure BS to buy time for the coders who don't have a clue what to do now...sorry,but I believe FTA and N2 are dead in the water..Plastic is the future.. Dishnet has changed all channels to N2 keys now...previously they were N1 keys (except for po*rn, some sports and few others which were N2 keys,thats why U couldn't get them)...U could get most of the channels cause they were N1 keys,but NOT now...everything is N2 keys,which requires a dump which hasn't been done by anyone yet.. BTW...rom101 hack is dying,not working for most know after paying big $$$$...there was never a dump!...U need to undertand many things obviously.. and the Dreambox is NOT a hack...its card sharing,like file or sub sharing! |
   
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 12:09 pm: |
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giver Honoured Guest Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 53 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well,so much for "coders only need emm/ecm" stuff,they simply won't respond because they can't,they'd be embarrased they can't support their products without a "magic" release. This was said before:they have nothing and it shows,now more than ever. Their chance is now,that keys have entered the stream and are available,but them coders "don't have emm/ecm" to begin with. Their excuse is "they change the algo",which is also BS,only a way to "make time" while they wait for a saviour to pop up from nowhere. Even when people know 'n2 is in the bag",and in fact have it all going,it don't seem to apply to FTA makers. They can't support their product anymore,they'd have to pay BIG bucks for dump to do this. And they are NOT doing it.
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LockSmith Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 12:19 pm: |
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Not suggesting that this may be easy but how hard is it to get the new keys? What would have to been done? How was n1 keys available? |
   
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 12:22 pm: |
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New N2 keys are like cracking DTV cards.. |
   
LockSmith Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 12:30 pm: |
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If n2 has been hacked in europe for over a year now then its only a matter of time |
   
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 12:31 pm: |
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boy... really hard to get straight answers here.....was just at tiki..some guy says it's now working on dvb cards....what is the truth? |
   
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 12:33 pm: |
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Hi Richard Hart, if you can watching all PPV, can you send us the keys. Thanks |
   
LockSmith Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 12:37 pm: |
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I think he's full of crap! |
   
New member Username: Richie66
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Post Number: 6 Registered: Aug-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 12:58 pm: |
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I think he's full of crap! You want me send you a picture of all the PPV I receive? N2 is still open you have to have the AU key otherwise NO picture. You can find it at many sites but you have to know where I don't give keys or illegal files away you have to get it your self. Files in europe for N2 works allso in the usa, so long you have the right Images, Config and AU keys. I have a DB 7000 and my dad has a DB 500 which I personally reprogram the Images with the right config and keys. I use flashwizard pro (ftp) is fast and never fails me. Gr Richie
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Prove it! Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 01:05 pm: |
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Whats the link CLAY??? |
   
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 01:09 pm: |
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yeah I can send U a picture of PPV too...from my sub card! |
   
New member Username: Richie66
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 01:11 pm: |
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That is correct LockSmith ==If n2 has been hacked in europe for over a year ==now then its only a matter of time Last year N2 was hacked but not for the public just a few weeks ago N2 Rom101 was given to the public The N2rom101 had some flaws at this moment in Europe people are watching PPV in N2 with the same keys what the USA are using with the RIGHT Images, Config and AU keys you will get picture in the USA, but who cares about picture now we need to pay attention to the rom102 and 103. Gr Richie
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 01:14 pm: |
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SCAMMER!!!!!!! |
   
Prove it! Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 01:20 pm: |
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Why does he not post the link?? I know CUZ HE IS FULL OF 5HIT!!! |
   
New member Username: Richie66
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 01:23 pm: |
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yeah I can send U a picture of PPV too...from my sub card! posted by LK =Ok life video???? I can show you all the ppv in =real time with a webcam???? no problem for me I even change the channel for you PPV2?? or perhaps PPV3?? 4 or 5. posted by Anonymous SCAMMER!!!!!!! Child???? NO childeren here please
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 01:30 pm: |
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You the man CLAY!! Tell them the truth!!! |
   
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 01:34 pm: |
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2500 file been released!! Apprentely it works!! Source unknown. |
   
New member Username: Richie66
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 01:55 pm: |
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Was nice chatting with you people I gone watch the The Aviator now ON PPV!!!! LK what kind of box do you have a DB??? if yes I can mail you the site for the right files and keys but only through PM. Gr Richie
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 02:03 pm: |
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Does anyone know where I can find the new file and if it works?? |
   
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 05:17 pm: |
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can I use the new bin file of 2500 for my ps 2700???? any one please tell me. thanks. |
   
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 05:22 pm: |
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there is a n2 release for the pansat 2700s. You may find the file at dsstester.c0m |
   
Need file! Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 06:16 pm: |
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Does any have a file for digiwave7000? |
   
New member Username: Wed011202
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 06:24 pm: |
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goto dsscentral net and latest files for Pansan N2 files. Works for new key after 09/13/05 |
   
DEL SOL Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 07:15 pm: |
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THE FILE # 279 FOR THE FTA ONLY ONPENS UP A FEW CHANNELS ANY ONE HAVE A BETTER FILE FOR THE FORTEC THANKS |
   
DEL SOL Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 07:15 pm: |
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THE FILE # 279 FOR THE FTA ONLY ONPENS UP A FEW CHANNELS ANY ONE HAVE A BETTER FILE FOR THE FORTEC THANKS |
   
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 07:43 pm: |
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LK was dead wrong, they are all working again.... |
   
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 08:29 pm: |
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hello, absolutely frustrated with all this technical jargon. Does anyone have the file for the fortec lifetime reciever so i can watch the international channels. Thanks in advance |
   
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| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 09:54 am: |
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Just wanted to let you know that the rom101 will be released to the public soon. You will be able to program your own rom101 cards. |
   
Where u Been Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 12:19 pm: |
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Just wanted to let you know that the rom101 will be released to the public soon. You will be able to program your own rom101 cards the complete dump was released 2 weeks ago on a couple euro ftp servers |
   
Where u Been Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 12:19 pm: |
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Just wanted to let you know that the rom101 will be released to the public soon. You will be able to program your own rom101 cards the complete dump was released 2 weeks ago on a couple euro ftp servers |
   
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| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 05:02 pm: |
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Thanks for the update |
   
DVB MAN Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 05:25 pm: |
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WWW.PANTECDVB.COM IS A GOOD SITE |