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parts unknown Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 03:15 pm: |
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Mister Tomasulo-
check the serial number of the set that is delivered and hope that it is one of the recalled sets. Refuse delivery based on that and then cancel your order. |
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New member Username: Cheapbyte
MI
Post Number: 10
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 03:34 pm: |
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Mister Tomasulo,
I think if you refuse delivery, you still end paying for some type of shipping or handling. Granted, their site says free delivery, but we all know it is included in the price they are selling the set for. |
Bronze Member Username: Mrtomasulo
Post Number: 17
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 03:55 pm: |
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Steve, I think you're right.
I just found out my nearest JVC repair shop is only 9 miles away, so I guess I should quit worrying as hopefully I'll have easy access to fix any probs. I'm not being naive here am I? |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 623
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 03:58 pm: |
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Best Buy has the 52" 575 on sale for $2564.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&id=pcmcat31800050029 |
interested buyer Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 09:00 pm: |
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Hmmm...where to buy, where to buy?
Best Buy = $2565
Good Guys = $2550 (plus you get an upconvert Toshiba DVD player
Costco = $2200
Pac-2000 = $2044 (for 575), $2199 (for 585)
Video Only = $2399 (for 585)
Sears = no longer available
Argh...too many choices! Probably leaning towards Costco or Video Only. Costco has the great retun policy that's been discussed here, but Video Only has the 585 (and I'm sure their price has some wiggle room).
Any thoughts? |
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 10:25 pm: |
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interested buyer,
Sears price matched Costco -10% and Best buy matched that for me. |
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 10:27 pm: |
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interested buyer,
Sears price matched Costco -10% and Best buy matched that for me. |
Bronze Member Username: Hstraub
Post Number: 12
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 10:39 pm: |
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Get this, I called Sears to deal with my TV that they delivered last Friday (a November recall build. The customer service person tells me that they NO LONGER CARRY THE TV. Apparently my phone call to complain last Friday alerted Sears to the problem(nobody heard about the recall at Sears customer service). I am not taking credit/blame, but I feel bad for JVC because Sears dropped them.
Anyway, Sears offered me a full refund(including coming to pick it up) and a Sears gift card for my trouble(decent $$ size), or I could deal with JVC and have it fixed and they will still send me the $$ gift card.
So, what do you think, get a new set or get it fixed? Even with the new Costco price, the deal I got at Sears would have been a wash dollar wise. I am inclined to just call JVC for the repair, keep the set and use the $$ for a good remote.
Any thoughts? |
Bronze Member Username: Mrtomasulo
Post Number: 18
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 11:53 pm: |
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IB-- I'm not sure if I'd go with Pac-2000. They played the "yes it's in stock"/"no it's not" game with me when I tried placing an order with them last week. After I placed an order, it suddenly was no longer "in stock", but "on allocation" which basically meant out of stock as far as I was concerned. So I cancelled the order (at least no hassle there) and placed an order with buydig.
If I would've waited another week (and am kicking myself for not doing it) I would've gone with Costco. |
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 12:31 am: |
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Thanks guys. Even though Pac-2000 has a great price, I'll skip on them (based on . I'm not that keen on big internet purchases anyway (call me old fashioned). I think I'll see what kind of a price I can talk them down to at Video Only (b/c they have the 585). If they don't budge, I may go with Costco. I'm not sure the black version is worth an extra $200 in my book.
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Silver Member Username: Rlschneck
Post Number: 122
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 01:40 am: |
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scott brooks--
if you have not already purchased a remote, i think that you should buy the MX700 from NewEgg.com. like the other person told you, they are very reputable, and you can get it from them for the $180 that you were willing to spend for the MX600. i guarantee that you will be happy with this decision. i bought the MX700 from newegg, and i couldn't be happier. the difference is that the MX700 is pc programmable, which is a huge difference. the software is buggy right now, but URC keeps updating it. anyway, the ease of using your computer rather than a little lcd screen to set up your remote is immeasurable. i love my remote, and there are a ton of people out there willing to share files. for instance, i was having a problem with the discrete power codes for the JVC tv and then i found some people on the remotecentral forums that had the same problem, they sent me their power codes, and problem solved. pc programmability provides GREAT flexibility.
sailbyte--
sorry to see that your screen is now so crooked. i also have the DVE disc, and my first set had the same degree of crookedness. i exchanged it and luckily my second set has not had any problems. have you used the DVE disc to change the RGB drives in the service menu at all? if so, can you describe the procedure that you followed, which test screens, etc.?
thanks,
ryan |
Bronze Member Username: Nuclearfish
Nashville,
TN
USA
Post Number: 36
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 02:18 am: |
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Ryan,
The remote should be here tomorrow...
I need the MX-600 because all my components are in my cabinet (see pic I posted last week in this thread), and the MX-600 has RF, with 10 IR blasters that I can control everything without leaving the doors to the cabinet open.
I ate a few bucks, but it'll be worth it to me...
I've had to return stuff to Amazon before, and they are very easy to work with. I have a loyalty issue, and I've bought from them since 1998.
Using wavebird wireless controller for the gamecube, and it's a huge difference. Always hated having to pull everything out (too easy to trip on cords).
I will let everyone know if the remote stacks up to my preconceptions.
By the way, I had no problems working with PAC-2000, but I hated having to wait so long to get my set.
I can only reccommend them to people who are more patient than myself.
Still love the set! I'd hate HD cable without the DVR though. Too few HD channels.
With the DVR, we have 1-3 movies to watch at any given time, so it's HD or nothing for me. I only wish that I wasn't paying for so many channels I'll never watch.
Oh well, there's more on the horizon.
Scott |
New member Username: Glo_bo
Post Number: 9
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 05:34 am: |
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Regarding upgrade and lamp,
I have had my set since Nov, Tonight it appears the lamp is gone, I just get both lights blinking rapidly. Is this indication of the lamp died?
On the upgrade my set serial number is about 100 out of the recall I wonder how close the numbers are to actually being correct since Mr. Lynch suggested the ballast and the lamp dying could be related.
I don't know if I should have the upgrade done. Does the lamp go out after such a short period of use?
frustrated. |
New member Username: Fkubick
Post Number: 6
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 11:16 am: |
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Globo
I've had different opinions as to whether the ballast board (BB) problem and a blown lamp are connected. One JVC rep said she thought they were related and the service center that is going to do the BB upgrade said they agreed. Another JVC rep said no way are they connected. The service rep is coming to install the BB upgrade this Friday but in the meantime I had the lamp blow. I called JVC and they sent a replacement bulb at no charge. I asked them if I should go ahead and install it or wait until after the BB is replaced and they said to go ahead and install it. They also said that if the lamp blows again they will again replace it free of charge. Anyway I installed the new lamp and no problem so far. Call JVC service and they should replace the bulb free of charge.
By the way, my set is an August build and I purchased it in December 2004. |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 624
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 12:56 pm: |
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My lamp blew before the recall, and when I talked the the tech at the time he said it could be the Lamp control board (ballast board). He said that sometimes they arc and cause the lamp to blow. I'm pretty sure they are related.
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Bronze Member Username: Mrtomasulo
Post Number: 19
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 03:11 pm: |
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I was thinking of getting the DVE disc that's mentioned here frequently in anticipation of tweaking the calibration of my soon-to-arrive JVC. I had a couple questions though I was curious if any of you could answer:
a) is it worth getting?
b)is it as hard to use as the customer reviews on Amazon say it is for a relative newbie;
c) what's the "PAL" version and do I want it?
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Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 626
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 03:21 pm: |
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A) DVE is an excellent purchase. It will help you get the most out of your set
B) The first time you use it, it is very easy to follow along. It explains each step, and what to do/look for. Anyone can use it. The complaints people have are with the menu system of the disc. If you want to go back and find a specific test, it is tough to get there sometimes, but not impossible.
C) "PAL" is the european format. "NTSC" is what is used in North America. Make sure you get the NTSC version. PAL is not compatible for the most part. |
Bronze Member Username: Mrtomasulo
Post Number: 20
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 03:45 pm: |
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thanks Mr. L! |
interested buyer Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 04:24 pm: |
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Like Mr. T, I was thinking about getting DVE prior to the arrival of my tv. And like him, the Amazon reviews really caused me some concern.
From what I can tell, DVE helps you properly set up your typical user settings like brightness, sharpness, color, etc., but it also allows more advanced users to tweek the service menu settings. Is that right? Has anyone actually gone into the service menu and used DVE to further enhance their picture? If so, how easy or difficult is that to do? |
New member Username: Glo_bo
Post Number: 10
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 06:23 pm: |
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Mr Lynch, Frank Kubick
thanks for the info, I will call a jvc rep. my serial is 16981635 just 100 over the recall dont know if I can or should have the upgrade done. |
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| Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 10:39 pm: |
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Okay, I figure I've mooched enough information from the forum that I should post about my purchase in case anyone is interested...
I just purchased a 52Z585 from the local HH Gregg. Just a week or so ago, the set was priced at $2799 and when I tried to negotiate $2600 was their absolute rock bottom, won't-go-below price. Tonight I talked them down to $2199. |
Bronze Member Username: Matman
Post Number: 28
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 03:19 am: |
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Green Problem & Light Engine
A number of folks have written in having noticed a tendency for their sets to show a green tinge on grays. A review in AV described this as an artifact of the sets, but I also recall some folks eliminated the problem by getting a new light engine. Is this "green tinge" distinct from the "green glow" that folks notice even when their screen is blank?
I'm about to pay ISF $350 to calibrate two inputs on my D-ILA. Before I do this, I thought I'd check and see if the problem should be visited first by JVC repair. Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Matt |
Bronze Member Username: Matman
Post Number: 29
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 03:23 am: |
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Surround Sound!
Anybody out there set up their D-ILA with surround sound? Do you have a system you really like?
I just spent $750 on a demo package of surround sound speakers: the Definitive Technology ProCinema 100 package. Anyone out there have this package? Was this a good price? Do you like their performance?
Yours,
Matt |
Bronze Member Username: Matman
Post Number: 30
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 03:28 am: |
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THE DVD PLAYER FOR D-ILA!
I've seen several recent posts from folks looking for a good upscaling DVD player. Having tried several models, I can say with certainty that the best results by far are achieved with the Sony DVP-NS975V. It offers several output selections to refine the signal for best quality. The results were stunning. It was like getting a new TV! A few months ago, someone wrote in about exchanging their high-end Denon for the Sony - at considerable savings - because it gave better results. Highly recommended.
Yours,
Matt |
Bronze Member Username: Matman
Post Number: 31
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 03:32 am: |
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Pincushioning!
I understand that the tendency for the vertical edges of 4X3 material to bow inward slightly is called "pincushioning". Can this be corrected? My set does it slightly. It doesn't bother me all that much, but my girlfriend is an architect, and it's driving her nuts!
Yours,
Matt |
Bronze Member Username: Mr_sparks
Ca
Usa
Post Number: 61
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 01:26 pm: |
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Matt - regarding surround sound. Home theatre is'nt, without it. I can't comment on what you got - there's just too many speakers out there.
Two speaker brands I really like are:
Axiom - http://www.axiomaudio.com/
and Polk Audio - http://www.polkaudio.com/home/products.php?category=28
I have two surround systems in my house. One uses Axiom and the other Polk Audio.
Axiom has fantastic sound. Especially check out their surround and center speaker. They are in Canada and are very friendly people. They have a trial period.
I stumbled on Polk Audio by accident. I was in fry's with a gift certificate and saw a sale on the Polk Audio. They sounded good in the store, but you never know until you set it up at home. I was amazed how good they sounded at home. Very clear with good high end. Very well balanced across left to right.
I bought middle of the road, as far as price goes. I got Polk M40 center, fronts and sub. I used Axiom surround speakers in both systems. The Axiom center is the best center speaker I tried.
Don't forget the Radio Shack DB meter for balancing your surround system. |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 632
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 02:02 pm: |
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I don't know why anyone would buy a large TV set and not run a surround system. It is such a big part of the viewing experience. Ever try watching a good action scene with the sound off?
I've had my surround system for years. I bought it back when I had a 25" TV, and I've enjoyed every moment of it. It is an all Infinity setup. RS5 towers up front, a CC-3 center, and QPS-1 surround speakers. I also have a pair of inwall infinity speakers just waiting for when I upgrade to a 7.1 receiver. I'm really leaning toward the upcoming JVC 7.1 recievers. Thin, cheap, with HDMI input/output.
For my subwoofer, I built my own. I had 3 JL Audio 8" subs laying around from my car stereo days. I built a nice little box, bought a 300w subwoofer amp from parts express ($110) and gave that a shot. It works perfects, and it pegs my SPL meter (127db) when cranked.
MDF and vinyl woodgrain from Parts express
I'm no audiophile, I just want decent sound. What I have works for me.
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 02:03 pm: |
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Concerning the "Green tinge on Greys", I have found setting the color temp setting to high has taken care of this situation on my set. |
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 02:17 pm: |
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Damn! Just as I was about to buy, a new carrot gets dangled in front of me. I just found out that the new 2005 JVC HD-52G786, expected to ship in June, has an MSRP of $2700! Quite a drop in price from the MSRP of the 2004 model. Now I'm thinking of waiting.
I know, I know...new and better things are always around the corner and if I don't pull the trigger, I'll never buy a tv. But it seems to be worth the wait.
Crappy thing is that if I get one of these new ones, I won't be able to hit all of you up for your invaluable help anymore... |
Bronze Member Username: Mr_sparks
Ca
Usa
Post Number: 62
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 02:36 pm: |
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Nice sub Mr. Lynch! I agree - without surround sound, it's just a TV.
I also have some old infinities, 15 years old studio monitors. They've been good, but the woofer is disintegrating. Probably will replace them with Axiom fronts.
interested buyer - what is better about the HD-52G786 that you're waiting for? |
Bronze Member Username: Thedvdguy
Post Number: 30
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 02:40 pm: |
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interested buyer, where did you see the $2700 MSRP price on the forthcoming 52"? Everything I've seen shows MSRP around $4200.
-Brett |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 633
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 03:04 pm: |
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The MSRP on the HD-52G786 is $4299. Same as the 575/585 were. That means they will run about $3400 in the stores. Video Only said they will put it on the floor for around $3200 when it comes out. You can get a 575/585 for close to $1000 less right now.
The added features are:
ATSC/cable card- pretty worthless in my opinion. ATSC only works with OTA signals, cablecard is 1 way. No VOD, PPV, or TV guides can be used.
IEEE1394- INPUT ONLY. Good for camcorders and?
VGA input- Wish this came on the first gen models. Very nice addition.
Digital audio output- Now you can run a cable from the TV to your receiver and get surround sound. Makes the audio capabilities of HDMI useful.
Everything else is pretty much just carried over so the picture should look exactly the same. The light engine has been streamlined, but the LCoS chips remain the same. The service menus should also be similar if not identical.
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 03:17 pm: |
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That's weird. I got the info from AVS forum (owner of TV Authority posted details about the upcoming JVC's). http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=81d8167b1d958814ceb0fb1c0d1acd2c &postid=5378390#post5378390
Also, pac-2000's website already has the 61" version advertised at $2900. The 61" is supposed to be shipped in about 2-3 weeks.
My hope for the newer models is that some of the kinks have been worked out (CA, smudges, etc.) Again, this is just a hope. No promises that the new sets will be any better in performance (since current performance is pretty sweet as it is) Also, it has a dedicated PC input as well as firewire.
I don't know what to do...
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Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 635
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 03:38 pm: |
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If you don't kind waiting and spending a bit more, than you should wait for the new model. Release dates are always tenative, so July could turn into "end of the year" real quick. Either way you will get a great set. |
Bronze Member Username: Mrtomasulo
Post Number: 21
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 04:00 pm: |
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My set from buydig is arriving tomorrow.
Can anyone offer advice on how to tell if the set is a refurbished or a non-brand new item?
I'm apprehensive about this place and will refuse to sign for the thing if I think they're trying to pull one on me.
I just got an email stating another 2 lb delivery was coming to me fedex in addition to the tv which was already scheduled to arrive through freight. I called customer service to inquire about it and was told it was some sort of cleaning kit, to which I tell them I didn't order it. The kid tells me then to just refuse it when it gets to my door... then he says, well it looks like he threw it in for free, to which I say "well that's different if it's free". The guy then smarts off with a "oh you sure about that?". I'm just lie wtf--and I tell him "YEAH I'M SURE... why would I complain if I'm not getting charged for it!?"
I had read about their notorious rude customer service, but this was my first real brush with it.
So I'm not getting charged for it, but I'm just like, why are these shiesters giving me *anything* for free unless the TV they sent me is somehow "something less" than what I ordered.
I'm paranoid and want to be ready for any bs that comes down off the freight truck waiting for me tomorrow.
(As for why I would go through an Internet dealer in the first place-- at the time I ordered it was $400 cheaper than any retail store, plus no sales tax and free shipping... things changed real quick in the days since my order... namely, Costco).
Thanks in advance for any guidance. |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 638
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 04:18 pm: |
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MR. T.-
It would be illegal for them to sell you a reburbished set without your knowledge. If JVC did refurb it, it would be clearly marked. Usually the model number will end in an "R" or a "B". For example:
HD-52z575-R or
HD-52z575-B or
Serial number 1975604-B
This would be clearly marked on the box, and on the set near the serial number.
When I bought my set, I could have save a little buying online (sales tax is 8.9% here) but I went with an actual store. I don't trust some of the internet sellers. I would buy from PAC-2000, but only becasue they are nearby and I could pick it up. Saving $400 would make me think long and hard though... |
Silver Member Username: Kid_red
Post Number: 189
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 04:59 pm: |
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globo- My set did the blinking lights. 2 days later is was working fine. I think it might have gotten too hot and went into safe mode.
matt- I love my Paradigm set up, I have the Monitor 7s.
DVD player for this set- Denon 2900!!!!!
I got this player yesterday to replace possibly, my Zenith 318. THIS BAD BOY ROCKS!! It really shows what the JVC can do! Clean, smooth, no noice, no greent tint, no MB, nice blacks, nice shadow detail, and EXCELLENT SOUND! Wow, watching a movie now is so much better with the better sound.
The real reason this player rocks- It has adjustment Gamma. What this allowed me to do was lower the last black step in the gamma (it's in like 15 steps) and then the next 2-3 up, I moved lightly higher. The result? I was able to get black blacks AND raising the next dark greys slightly higher resulting in NO BLACK CRUSH. iRobot was simply stunning. Blacks were black, shadow details were clean and detailed. I got lucky and picked it up for $480 as it was a returned item.
As for my update- I'm on my 3rd light engine replacement and still have green color fringing. JVC (who's been excellent) offer the chance for me to return the set for a new one. Mine is almost 2 months old. They mentioned the new turner models if i wanted to upgrade with BB. I then asked about doing the upgrade/exchange/return for the 2nd gen models with new cabinet/electronics in June/July,m they said sure!! They will work it where I can return the set around the time the newer models come out so I can upgrade to that paying any difference of course. The newer sets will MSRP at $2799!! Street price should be lower and close to what i paid. So, hopefully, by this fall, I'll have the newer model!! I love JVC. They've been very straight with me and dedicated to making me happy.
Kinda feel dumb getting the BB warranty now  |
Silver Member Username: Kid_red
Post Number: 190
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 05:05 pm: |
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Mr Lynch-Concerning the newer models-
"JVC 2005 DILA MSRP & SHIPPING SCHEDULE
HD61Z786 - Silver Model -- $3699 MSRP -Shipping End of March / Early April
HD61Z886 - Black Model - $3699 MSRP - Shipping End of March / Early April
HD70G886 - Silver Frame -- $5999 MSRP - Shipping End of March / Early April
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HD52G886 - Black Frame -- $2799 MSRP - Shipping in June
HD52G786 - Silver Frame - $2799 MSRP - Shipping in June
HD56G786 - Black Frame - $3099 MSRP - Shipping in July
HD56G886 - Silver Frame - $3099 MSRP - Shipping in July
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MISC JVC INFO:
"G" versus "Z" -- the letter refers simply to the bezel design. The "Z" bezels are just like the current JVC DILAs, while the "G" bezels are a little more rounded off. You can sort of see the difference in the PDFs I posted previously.
PC Input -- confirmed on all of them. It will accept a 640x480 or 1024x768 videl signal through the RGB 15Pin. According to the manual anyways, it won't accept PC signals through the HDMI input.
Media Card Viewer -- play JPEGs, etc... only in the 70" model.
JVC Stands -- new stands for these models. Of course, no ETA or pricing available yet on the stands. We're staying on top of JVC for more info.
As for display electronics, JVC likes to point to an all new 4th generation processing chip, and improved contrast."
So, the MSRP is $2700, (not $3400) at least according to this guy who runs tvauthority.com |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 639
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 05:40 pm: |
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Nice post Rick!
That clears some things up. I was going by what Video Only told me, but I like the prices you listed better. |
Silver Member Username: Kid_red
Post Number: 191
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 06:39 pm: |
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Mr Lynch0 Yea, this guys just got the specs/dates like a few weeks ago, so it's fairly recent. He said they all looked good at CES, but I still haven't heard defenatrely that the 52" sets are indeed much improved. I've read the 61" and 70" both are jaw dropping and that 'all' JVCs looked great. But no exact 'the 52" were much better' per say. So we'll have to wait and see. My two peeves would be CA and noise/artifacts from crap signals or low rez images blown up like on commercials you'll see some logos or text look jagged. So hopefully, they can get some source flaws muted some. |
Bronze Member Username: Condor
Post Number: 82
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 06:52 pm: |
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Hello All,
I just had my ballast board replaced (JVC 52") under the recall, oops, I meant upgrade!
The tech was in and out the door in 30 minutes. Actual time on the set was about 15 minutes.
It seems the problem is with the ballast board connector. The connector loosens and then arcs off the power pins. What a hassle for JVC, a 20 cent connector caused this problem.
I asked the tech which sets people hade the most problems with and he said "SAMSUNG, piece of junk!" He did say he liked both the JVC and the Sony.
Regards
Jim |
Bronze Member Username: Matman
Post Number: 32
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 05:33 am: |
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Surround Sound! DVD Player!
Mr. Sparks, Mr. Lynch, and Rick:
Thanks for the info. Really enjoyed the pic's! Will give the speakers a listen this weekend.
The Def. Tech. ProCinema 100 package that I got sounds bigger than it looks, but as with smaller sets it lacks rich bass. The pieces originally cost $1450, so I feel pretty good about picking them up for $750 (a demo model discount). I know that for music it could be a bit better, so I'm still looking and listening.
Rick: Thanks for the scoop on the Denon 2900. I think I'll bring it home and try it out. I still get some noise on the lower grey scale on certain DVD's, and I'd love to find a player that eliminates this problem. The Sony 975 sure is a huge improvement over the other players I tried, but I didn't climb the scale as far as the Denon. I recall someone on this forum chose the Sony over a Denon. I'll have to check the model on that. The black level option really sounds cool!
What is "green fringing". Please describe. I'm still trying to decide if I need a new light engine or just a tweak.
THANKS EVERYBODY!
Matt
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Bronze Member Username: Glo_bo
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| Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 05:37 am: |
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Rick, thanks for info my lamp is gone, now that I think about it the picture was getting darker and I get adjusting brightness.
Is it common for JVC to say they will call you in 2 days for a lamp replace. Seems wierd what are you supposed to do hang by the phone for two days. |
New member Username: Killer
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| Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 10:14 am: |
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Hi all, I'm new to the group and just want to say how helpful it's been for staying on top of issues with the JVC DILA set.
Thought I'd share my experience with having an ISF tech calibrate my set. I debated doing myself but after watching him I'm glad I paid him to do it. Calibration is as much an art as it is science and a good tech knows how to compromise spec settings to get the best overall effect. Color is much improved as are the black levels. I was also surprised how much mosquito effect there was in a HD signal that he was able to dial out.
There are inherent anomalies in the set that just cannot be calibrated out - slight convergence alignment and bowing of vertical lines for example. These have to do with the physics of wide lens projection. We saw a slight misconvergence at the center of the set (purplish, greenish tint around a white projection source). It really isn't noticeable about 3' away from the set but is quite apparent on a test pattern looking for convergence problems. The center of the screen was the best with some slight misconvergence but the problem is amplified as you go out to the edges. This is typical as optical anomalies tend to be more pronounced at the outer edges of the lens. A high quality lens is the solution which JVC apparently elected to not go with. That's simply a cost consideration when manufacturing a set in a desired price range.
My set also exhibits the vertical bowing lines others have mentioned. This is a nuisance to me watching a 4:3 source with side bars. It's very noticeable when projecting a test pattern looking for H/V alignment. There was nothing the tech could do for this. Again, it's the physics of trying to project a wide angle image over a short focal length. Again, higher quality optics is the solution but that drives up the cost of the set considerably.
We also noticed vertical banding in the gray scale image which suggests that only an 8-bit video processor is used. Too bad, the cost for a 10-bit processor is so minimal ....
Finally, the tech complained about high bright the set was. Initially, it was around 120 fL but after calibration was down to about 85 fL. Still very bright .....
OK, enough of the negatives. The DILA set is still an excellent set and I would buy again. I see rainbows on DLPs, black levels on LCDs just plain suck, and plasmas have burn-in issues and are just plain expensive for a HD resolution set. LCOS seems to be a good compromise and hats off to JVC. The set looked pretty darn good to begin with but even better after calibration (especially for HD and DVD sources). Personally, I don't think you can beat the picture for the money.
If you can afford it, I recommend having an ISF tech do a calibration .... you'll be glad you did.
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Bronze Member Username: Mrtomasulo
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| Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 03:24 pm: |
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Thanks for your last response, Mr. L.
Delivery from Buydig arrived today. I think I'm pleased so far. TV came very well-packaged, and the set was in pristine condition (as should be expected). December build date-- check. Hooked it up and turned it on and no smudges, either-- check. Ordered on 3/18 and arrived today on 3/25. All in all seems to have been a good transaction. Paid $2239 total which included threshold delivery, and didn't have to pay sales tax. Still don't know if I'd go through buydig again, though, as it felt like I was playing a little Russian Roultette the whole while and the customer service had that 'shady' feel to it (BTW-- I don't think I'd personally ever pay for white glove delivery assuming the set doesn't have to go up any stairs, as mine didn't. Guy brought it into my house and basically opened it all for me).
Now that I've gotten the tough part out of the way, the only thing left is to improve my connections, as my standard def looks kinda crappy as it is now (high-def cable box coming tomorrow).
The current connections I have are admittedly lousy... the tv I swapped it out for was old and I had a cheap $20 Phillips modulator from Walmart connected to it just so I could hook it up to DVD/Gamecube, etc.
I'm assuming this $20 modulator has to go?  I plan on digging into the archives of this thread tonight as I'm sure everything I need to know has already been written. Anybody got any good starting points for where I should start, though? Thanks
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Can anyone tell me where there is a listing of certified ISF tech's? Specifically, I am looking for Los Angeles or Ventura County California. I tried going into the service menu and had no luck. I don't know if they changed the code for a December build or if I am just a complete programming geek. I was easily able to connect everything to my set and doing basic adjustments; however, I could not get it to go into the service adjustment mode.
Matt: I love my Sony DVD 975 player through HDMI. The picture is awesome.
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