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| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 07:59 pm: |
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Sony?
The most expensive boat anchor on the market!
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New member Username: Ffb
Post Number: 3
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 08:03 pm: |
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sorry for a follow up post. i forgot to add that i have been to best buy,sears ,sound advice and brandsmart here in the miami area . sears has a lousy jvc display with a very poor picture.sears fault.
best buy the same and they tell you that the jvc is no good and steer you to mitsubishi..the same for sound advice except that they do not carry jvc. apparently nitsu is paying push money to best buy and sound advice.
as far as brands mart......they have an excellent signal and installation of all sets.
,and the full line for all the makers .
there are 4 jvc hdila sets........2 sixties and 2 55.
the problem is that one of them went bananas while i was there and they could not bring it up again. they disconnected it ,etc....to no avail...the front panel where the power on button is kept flashing and the set was dead.
a second set was very dark and i was told it was a power problem......went back 3 days later and that set also went to television heaven.....the remainniing 2 sets ,a 60 and a 55 are great looking . but a 50 % failure rate ???????? |
New member Username: Ffb
Post Number: 4
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 08:17 pm: |
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i meant ,61 and 52 jvc sets. |
Bronze Member Username: Sailbyte
Post Number: 27
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 08:49 pm: |
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ffb
I am a very satisfied JVC owner. Many of the problems you read here are the smuges related to poor handling during shipping (I picked up my TV myself -- so that may be one reason I don't have that problem). There were also some issues with early (pre-September) build models, but it is unlikely a new set will have these problems and from what I can tell from this board, JVC has been real good about standing behind their product and fixing the old problems.
So, in short, I would still recommend the JVC -- I do think it is the best technology out there for the price.
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New member Username: Mmdennis
Post Number: 7
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 09:39 pm: |
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JUAN SARDA
My pics are too large 1200x900, when i shrink them their bigger than 100kbs, whats your e mail i will send it to you... |
New member Username: Fc7
Post Number: 1
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 10:21 pm: |
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I have a scientific atlanta hd3250 cable box from Rogers (canada).
When I hook up the dvi-d to HDMI I sometimes got error message saying JVC is not HDCP compatible.
Is the box a problem ot he JVC 575??
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Bronze Member Username: Juan_sarda
Miami,
Fl
USA
Post Number: 14
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 12:19 am: |
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Dennis Eric Halfpenny
Send pics to jsarda383@aol.com, I will try to resize & then post pics. Are all the problems corrected with the new chassis? Do you see any improvements in the picture |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 450
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 01:07 am: |
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First I would like to say that forum users are going to be a lot more picky when it comes to their sets. People are looking for perfection, and will find fault in details that most people will not even notice.
I have had my JVC (August build) since August, and it runs like a champ. In 6 months of viewing, It have never failed me. It is on atleast 4 hours per day, and I've been nothing but happy with it. I've watched my friends Sammy DLP, and my Aunt's Hitachi LCD have nothing but issues. The Sammy owner has had his set 5 months, and it has been out of action almost 6 weeks of that time. In 10 months time, the Hitachi owner has gone though 2 bulbs, and has lost out on 3 weeks of TV viewing, including the Seahawks playoff game. (not worth watching anyway  )
Everything you may have read here about the JVC is minor problems. There is no real issue that makes the sets un-watchable. I've read lots of Samsung, Sony, Panasonic and Hitachi threads talking about dead sets. Bulbs going out after a month, and TVs that won't turn on. I'd rather wait 2 weeks for a screen replacement and be able to watch and enjoy the set, than to have a giant paper weight that doesn't even turn on.
After 6 months, I still would not trade my JVC for anything out on the market today. It is by no means perfect, but it is a very reliable and excellent set. |
Bronze Member Username: Toona
Post Number: 19
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 08:39 am: |
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ffb,
I would also like to add that we love our JVC and have had no problems...its only been days but still. I think people tend to post more here when they HAVE problems vs. when they don't have problems since this thread is full of knowledgable people.
I know I am the first to complain to a company (like when you get a beetle in your chinese food) when I get bad service but not as likely when I get some good stuff. I'm trying to be better about that.
Anyways, one of the reasons we chose JVC was because of the problems we have seen in real life with other sets in our friends homes. Just my two cents... |
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Bronze Member Username: Adventdude
Post Number: 14
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 09:21 am: |
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Hi again,
I must confess that, after noticing that my second 52Z575 also suffered from smudging (the day after it came), I haven't been watching it very much. However, my wife and I have been watching 24 every week (last week was when I noticed the smudging on the first unit), and we definitely wanted to watch in HD last night too.
The smudging on the new set was very distracting for the first 30 minutes or so (even on fairly dark scenes), but it started to fade after that and was pretty much gone by the time the show ended. As the picture looked good, I figured why not take advantage and watch Law & Order: SVU on UHD immediately after that.
Strangely enough, I didn't notice any color-oriented issues with 24 (on Fox) at all, but the SVU program was the first time I ever noticed an unnaturally excessive amount of green in dark grays and darker skin tones. Although it wasn't obvious the whole time, I couldn't help but see it during a good portion of the show. Having watched other episodes on my first set, I feel fairly confident that the new unit is much worse in this regard. (Both sets were calibrated with the Avia disc, but without touching the settings in the service menu.)
After the show was over, I scanned through several channels and it seemed like some programs/channels clearly displayed this green-on-dark problem, while others didn't seem to show it at all. Although I didn't notice greenish tinting on any of the white/gray displays when calibrating with the Avia DVD, I observed a slight (and perhaps a tiny bit inconsistent) greenish element to the gray that displays when no signal is present. (The gray on my first set didn't have any greenish hue at all.)
Went back and read several of the related posts here and am wondering if turning down the green drive (and then recalibrating with the Avia DVD) would be the best solution. Since JVC is sending a tech to replace the damaged/defective screen, I'm hoping that they'll be able (and willing) to have a look at this as well.
For the record, I have never accessed the service menu and don't intend on doing so--at least not until after JVC is able to get the unit working properly and up to spec.
I'm not trying to nitpick, but I'll certainly be a lot happier once all these issues are resolved and I can just lay back an enjoy the set.
Thanks and take care,
Alan |
Bronze Member Username: Condor
Post Number: 67
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 09:51 am: |
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Rick Lyon,
My stand is 20" deep and the JVC is set right to the back of the stand. The CC-270 overhangs the stand by about 5" and is supported by the flat bars I mentioned. The front of the center channel speaker is in line with the left and right front speakers.
By the way, I also used standard cabinet L brackets (bent)to secure the JVC to the stand as we are in an earthquake zone. People living on the West coast might consider doing the same. |
Bronze Member Username: Americasteam
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Post Number: 16
Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 11:34 am: |
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R Schneck,
Had my light engine replaced. It took a little over a month by the time I called the customer service contact to the time the tech got out here to fix it. This was during the month of December though. The tech was extremely busy.
I am happy with the repair. No stuck pixels and no geometry issues. The only grip I have is the uniformity of the blacks. Lighter in the middle and darker at the edges. I knew this going into the purchase and is normal for the JVC. I have a ND filter ordered to take care of that problem though. |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 451
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 11:37 am: |
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Alan-
I had a similar issue with slight greens in the dark areas that were corrected when I had my set callibrated. My tech friend found that the green drive on most new Fixed pixel sets (DLP/LCD/LCoS) are set a little hot. It helps with the brightness and is the least noticable color when off. I've found that a Green drive value in the 110s (Mine is set at 114, unit at work is now at 116) balances out the greens very well. The Red and Blue should be in the upper 120s to low 130s. |
New member Username: Thedvdguy
Post Number: 5
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 01:06 pm: |
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Americasteam,
What do you mean by "the only grip I have is the uniformity of the blacks. Lighter in the middle and darker at the edges. I knew this going into the purchase and is normal for the JVC. I have a ND filter ordered to take care of that problem though."
I couldn't find any other posts about this. I may have seen something about it in that old cnet review, but that's it. I couldn't find any othere posts on the uniformity of blackness.
What is an ND filter?
Is it necessary and how is it installed (internally or externally)?
Sorry for all the questions...on the verge of ordering a JVC set and just want to be sure of my decision.
Thanks
-Brett |
Bronze Member Username: Adventdude
Post Number: 15
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 01:33 pm: |
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Mr. Lynch,
Thanks a lot for the tip. I'm glad to hear that your experiece (prior to calibration) was similar to mine. That's encouraging news for sure.
Once again, I'm hoping that the JVC field engineer will have a look at this for me--but, if not, I'll know exactly what to try. Am a bit curious about when use the drive settings as opposed to tint, especially as it relates to calibrating with the Avia DVD.
Take care and thanks again for your help,
Alan |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 452
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 01:46 pm: |
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Think if it like this:
The Color drive in the service menu is like adjusting the faucet for your shower. You can make big changes.
The user menu (color,tint, etc.) is like adjusting the shower head. You can make small adjustments, but you have limited contol.
If you do adjust in the service menu, change your user settings all to 0, then adjust colors close. The user menu can then be used to fine tune. |
Bronze Member Username: Americasteam
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Post Number: 17
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 02:16 pm: |
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As with LCD the JVC has a hard time reproducing a good black. With the JVC it is not truely black, but more of a deep purple. There are a few different shades of "black" from one side of the screen to the other. It is really noticable if you are watching the set in the dark. It is not bad, but does bother me from time to time.
I talked to a JVC engineer about this issue. He said with the micro displays it is kind of like a flash light. If you shine the light on the ground the light is brighter at the center and gets dimmer the further it goes out. This causes the lighter area in the middle of the screen I was talking about.
The neutral density filter is used to stop some of the light output. It has to be placed on top of the lense. I have one on order. Should be here this week or next I hope. I am going to take pictures of the process step by step. If everything goes well I will probably post it on the AVS forums.
Brett I am not trying to scare you off from buying the JVC. It is a wonderful tv, but as Mr. Lynch has posted, not perfect. I have had this set, a Hitachi director series LCD, Toshiba DLP, and a Samsung DLP in my home in the last 3 or 4 months. All have their strengths and weaknesses. I think the JVC is the best tv out at this time.
Check out this link if you are wanting some info about installing a ND filter. Keep in mind that the instructions are for a Panny LCD. The JVC will not be as easy. No room to get the filter into the cabinet from the front. Have to put it in from the back above the light engine and adjust its location from the front.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=406634 |
Bronze Member Username: Adventdude
Post Number: 16
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 03:21 pm: |
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Mr. Lynch,
Thanks once again for the additional input. I was thinking along the same lines as what you suggested (using the drive settings for coarse control and the normal user menu for fine tuning). There are two things that I'm grappling with in that regard, though:
1. I'm assuming that the drive controls directly affect overall brightness. Although I was able to calibrate the COLOR and TINT settings to make things look close to perfect with the Avia DVD/filters, there definitely seems to be more of a greenish tint on many of the darker colors. (Incidentally, with the drive settings untouched, I only ended up calibrating the TINT at -01.) So it would also appear as though the drive settings affect what I think of as a curve or ramp of how each color responds to different values of light intensity. On the surface, I am guessing that lowering the green drive level should alleviate the problem (when adjusted properly).
2. I'm also guessing that raising the drive levels will result in a brighter picture. In fact, my suspicion is that raising them all closely (or proportionately) would be somewhat equivalent to raising the PICTURE setting from the user menu. I'm not sure how this relates, if at all, to color saturation--although I suspect there is probably at least some sybiotic link between the two. Additionally, I always end up lowering the color saturation on every kind of TV set. (In fact, the Avia DVD yielded a COLOR setting of -08, and I'm still considering dropping it down a notch or two further.)
I think all of this information (including my as-yet unproven presumptions) creates a solid foundation for constructive experimentation.
As an interesting aside, the Avia-directed PICTURE calibration ended up quite high (at +26) and I'm beginning to wonder if it may be better to raise all the drive levels so that the PICTURE setting ends up being a lot closer to 0. I wonder if there are any negative side-effects that make this approach undesirable (especially as I keep reading about using a blue reference of 128 and tweaking red and green from that reference point).
Take care and thanks again for all your help,
Alan |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 453
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 03:42 pm: |
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Alan-
If you do mess around with settings and find anything out post it for us. I'd be interested in knowing too. I am very happy with the way my TV is setup and I don't want to mess with it. I guess the "newness" of my toy has wore off, now I just want to enjoy it.
I was browsing the GoodGuys website today and I noticed some funny prices.
HD52z575 - $2499.00
HD52z585 - $2999.00
HD61z575 - $3999.00
HD61z585 - $2799.00
Who picks these prices? The 585 is more expensive in the 52", and cheaper as a 61" than the 575.
Dennis-
I have a question about "The new light engine inside the old framework". Was it in a TV case? Or inside an internal part of the set? I was just wondering if JVC has a bunch of the TV cases laying around or something. Maybe someone who wanted a 585 but has a 575 could get the blacks pieces. |
Silver Member Username: Kid_red
Post Number: 130
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 03:49 pm: |
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I just finished hooking up my JVC, got it this morning. My freaking luck, it's a June build!!! Now, the pic is a little more grainy and softer then I had anticipated, is that normal? The CA is there, and apparent sometimes from normal viewing distance. I'll have to adjust more, followed Mr Lynch's settings just to get it going. Blacks aren't very dark, tho I'm coming from a 36" CRT HD tube so that may be an unfair comparison.
So am I screwed with the June build? Is the pic supposed to be grainy and soft? HD was OK, not breath taking, and watched SW 1 and it looked grainy liked I was watching a very old movie on DVD. My DVD player is the Zenith 318 via component. Everything is component right now. I may dabble in the service menu if I don't end up returning this set. I just want to have legit reasons for asking for an exchange. |
Bronze Member Username: Adventdude
Post Number: 17
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 03:53 pm: |
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Mr. Lynch,
You just posted:
If you do mess around with settings and find anything out post it for us. I'd be interested in knowing too. I am very happy with the way my TV is setup and I don't want to mess with it. I guess the "newness" of my toy has wore off, now I just want to enjoy it.
Will do. Am really looking forward to getting to that point myself as well. (Actually thought I was starting to get there with my first set until a week ago Monday, when the smudging first appeared.) On the bright side, I've certainly learned a lot.
Take care and thanks again,
Alan |
New member Username: Mr_sparks
Vista1,
Ca
Usa
Post Number: 7
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 04:21 pm: |
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Would someone please -
give a definition of CA, what it looks like and how to adjust it away. Thanks ...
Mr Sparks
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New member Username: Thedvdguy
Post Number: 6
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 04:25 pm: |
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Rick, where did you purchase your set from?
-Brett |
New member Username: Thedvdguy
Post Number: 7
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 04:30 pm: |
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Anyone who's bought a 52" 75 from buydig.com recently...what build date did you get?
-Brett |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 454
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 04:41 pm: |
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Chromatic Aberration - An optical defect of a lens which causes different colors or wave lengths of light to be focused at different distances from the lens. It is seen as color fringes or halos along edges and around every point in the image.
There are several different fixes for this problem. Sometime it is a convergence issue, other times it is due to overly high setting. It is easy to see with reds. The color will "bleed" out into other images. It can also look almost like a "glow" around people or images.
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New member Username: Mmdennis
Post Number: 8
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 04:51 pm: |
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Mr Lynch,
It was a new chassis, inside a protective framwork, inside an old TV case (just the bottom).
After thinking this over somemore, I am wondering why the tech brought all of that to my appt....(weird)
JUAN SARDA-
Did you get my email of the pics? |
Silver Member Username: Kid_red
Post Number: 131
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 04:55 pm: |
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Sparks-
CA means Color Aberration. Look closely at white lettering and you'll see a purple pixel on one side and a green pixel on the right side.
Brett- BB in Orlando who had it delivered from Tampa. |
New member Username: Mr_sparks
Vista1,
Ca
Usa
Post Number: 8
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 05:23 pm: |
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Thanks Mr Lynch and Kid Red for the help.
Kid Red - Did your unit have the DILA sticker?
I sympathize with you getting a June built set, especially since you specifically asked for a recent build date.
Maybe not every June build will have a problem? Or, is JVC is trying to unload sets it knowingly has problems, to a mostly uneducated customer base?
Mr Sparks |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 455
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 05:33 pm: |
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My first set was a June build. The picture on it was perfect. No green glow, no convergence issues. I ended up swapping it out because it had "smudges". If I knew back then I could just get the screen replaced I might have gone that route.
It takes about 2-3 weeks of steady use to "break in" the set. I'd wait until then to evaluate the set. |
Bronze Member Username: Toona
Post Number: 20
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 07:05 pm: |
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Brett,
We purchased from Buydig last week and got a December build.
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Silver Member Username: Kid_red
Post Number: 132
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 07:36 pm: |
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Mr Sparks- No DILA sticker. Thanks for the sympathy. Figure it being january and all I'd get a newer set.
Mr Lynch- Was your June set grainy and soft out of the box? That's my main concern. CA is also there, and i've heard others say their sets don't have it. That's why I'm concerned. Someone at AVS said they returned their june build and got a December build and it was a night and day difference. I think just to be safe, I will return it this weekend (or at least set it up for a return) |
Bronze Member Username: Sailbyte
Post Number: 28
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 10:24 pm: |
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Question about Black pixilation on HDMI input. I attached some medium grade cables to the component outputs of my Comcast DVR and kept the DVI-HDMI cable plugged in. Using a recorded show where I saw some black-grey pixilation in the very dark background, I replayed the scene on the component input -- area was uniformly dark (as opposed to small squares of black and dark grey). So this raises the question is black pixilation only a HDMI input issue and is this to be expected or something I need to speak to JVC about?
The colors seemed a bit off under component input, but I did have both (DVI & component) outputs active on the Comcast DVR at the same time -- which could lead to color issues and the component cables were not the greatest -- which could indicate a signal issue with my test.
But I am beginning to wonder if I should buy a nice set of component cables ($30 from RAM online; not $100 monster) and give up on the HDMI DVR input. Again, any ideas?
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Bronze Member Username: Juan_sarda
Miami,
Fl
USA
Post Number: 15
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 12:43 am: |
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dennis eric halfpenny, here is your Chassis
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Bronze Member Username: Juan_sarda
Miami,
Fl
USA
Post Number: 16
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 12:47 am: |
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Try Again, dennis eric halfpenny, here is your Chassis
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Bronze Member Username: Juan_sarda
Miami,
Fl
USA
Post Number: 17
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 12:58 am: |
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Just a tip, if anybody is getting any new posts to this thread automatically sent to their Email you might not see the pictures that have been posted (at least with AOL you can't, only text). To see any posted pictures you will have to go to the Forum site. After I joined this forum it automatically sends all new post to my email text only no pics. Lots of mail/posts lately. |
Bronze Member Username: Matman
Post Number: 15
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 01:22 am: |
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HDMI black pixelization/soft signal/dim spots
Sailbyte -
I also notice the "blocky pixelization" on dark areas from time to time when using the HDMI cable. Sam has noticed this problem too. The problem isn't apparent if I switch to component. This is disappointing to me, because I really wanted to get everything I could out of my DVD's, and that requires using digital HDMI input.
My previous D-ILA didn't have this problem with the HDMI signal. Using the same DVD player and DVD's, the signal was fine. So what's up? Anyone have any ideas? I plan to ask JVC about this, and will report back, but it would be helpful to know how many of us are noticing this problem.
Rick -
The quality of HD signal may depend on your feed. As for DVD's, the player makes a BIG difference. Is the Zenith you mention a progressive scan player? If not, try out the Sony DVP-NS975V or the Toshiba Mr. Lynch and others have recommended. I think you'll see a dramatic increase in quality.
Alan -
I also have the smudges, and am hoping I can get the screen replaced. They don't seem to cover as much screen area as yours do, and they don't stay around as long. I'm waiting for a day that they're bad so I can get a picture for JVC. In the meantime, I'm very bummed that the TV has 2 diffuse dim circles (larger than a mere pixel, slightly larger than a pencil eraser) and one smaller black spot. These are easily visible at 10 feet. I plan to ask JVC about them. Is this a pixel problem? Dark "smudges"? Something else? Anyone have any ideas?
Yours,
Matt |
Bronze Member Username: Adventdude
Post Number: 18
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 07:53 am: |
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Hi Matt,
Thanks for the additional input. At this point I feel fairly confident that a screen replacement (as long as the replacement is perfect) should take care of the smudging issue. The "dim circle" problem sounds rather discouraging, though--and, without seeing it myself, I would guess that it will require something other than a screen replacement to remedy. Best of luck with getting both problems fixed!
Incidentally, my 575 is one one side of a very narrow room and we can really only get about 7.5 feet away at most. Luckily, the stuck pixel is small enough that you really only notice it on black backgrounds (typically during end credits)--and then pretty much only if you're looking for it.
A brief update on my service call: The product specialist referred my case out for a field visit on Monday. Was originally told that a new screen would be ordered the following morning, but near the end of the day I got a call stating that the field engineer had been tied up all day (delivering training) and wanted to look at my photos before they actually ordered a replacement screen. Hopefully they'll get the order processed this morning--and, with any luck, I'll have the replacement by the end of next week.
Thanks again and take care,
Alan |
Silver Member Username: Kid_red
Post Number: 133
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 09:47 am: |
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Of course the JVC was on all day yesterday and by last evening, things seemed to smoothed out some. By midnight, HD looked pretty damn good and I watched some Matrix 3 for the big tech fight and was absolutely floored. WHY ME!?!? I don't want a JUNE BUILD!! But how can I return if if it's now looks really good??! Just my luck. |
Silver Member Username: Kid_red
Post Number: 134
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 10:05 am: |
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Jim- I was going to mount my cc-370 above the TV. However, the stand my wife wanted is like 24" tall and with the 36" or so JVC on top, there's not much room above for a big mount. Just to set up, I put my CC in front of the tv on the stand so I could at least hear it/ Then, I pushed the jvc back some, it does overhang slightly in the rear and the CC in front of it does too, slightly overhang. However, it's perfect. It's no too high, nothing to mount/install. So while not perfect, it doesn't 'appear' to be a jimmy rig where I just threw it there. |
Bronze Member Username: Rlschneck
Post Number: 81
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 01:20 pm: |
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Anyone own a Denon 1910 DVD player and know if there is some sort of trick to getting it to output through the DVI?
I have it hooked up to my JVC through a DVI to HDMI cable and the TV displays the "No Program" message.
Thanks,
Ryan |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
WA
Post Number: 457
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 01:42 pm: |
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Do you have the "digital-in" turned on? It is a setting on the JVC user menu. I know "Ang" had the 1910, maybe he can help you out on that end of things. |
Silver Member Username: Kid_red
Post Number: 135
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 05:20 pm: |
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Mr Lynch, Can you elaborate on the service menu? Like, do the changes make huge differences? What are the most important ones to change, etc? And is it hard, can I screw up the set? |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
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Post Number: 460
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 06:01 pm: |
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Rick-
If you don't hit "muting" on the remote, any adjustments you make in the service menu will not be saved. You can play around in it, then turn off your TV and it will go back to it's original settings. Before messing with anything, print out the service manual and right down all your setting (page 21) They will differ for every set.
Some of the changes you can do are very easy and can make a big difference.
The CENTER POSITION ADJUSTMENT is easy to do if your TV is off a bit. My set was slightly cutting off the bottom of the CNN crawl so I adjusted the screen up 3 pixels, and to the left 2 pixels. I used an AVIA test pattern that shows a grid type thing with markings. It made centering my image very easy.
The CONVERGENCE ADJUSTMENT is also very easy and helpful. It is limited in the fact it moves the entire screen 1 pixel at a time, but you can correct any slight " edge blooming" you might have.
Those are 2 of the simpler adjustment that you can make without worrying about screwing your set up.
Adjusting the drive values can also be extremely helpful, but it is deeper into the service menu and you can really throw off your set if you mess with the wrong fields. When I get back from vacation in 2 weeks I'll post some good info on making adjustment in the service menu. |
Bronze Member Username: Americasteam
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 06:02 pm: |
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R Schneck
There is a little button on the front of the unit labeled DVI. You need to push it to enable the DVI out. Every push of that button also changes the resolution that it outputs. It will show the resolution on the display. |
Silver Member Username: Mr_lynch
Seattle,
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Post Number: 461
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 06:30 pm: |
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I'm almost forgot to post this!
Lat night I came across a very troubling issue.
About a month ago or so Comcast swapped out my Motorola HD cable box because I wanted one with an active DVI output. I don't use the DVI, but I wanted to try it out. Anyway, last night my wife wanted to watch a CBS show in HD. Since Comcast doesn't have CBS in HD, I unhooked the coax cable, screwed in the coax from my HD antenna and I got NOTHING. No signal, no picture, just blank screen. Normally I had to put the box on channel 335 to recieve CBS, but even that didn't work. I called Comcast and they told me the Motorola boxes will only work with a cable signal. I told them about the previous box working, and they said "well it wasn't suppose to." Now it looks like I'm out of luck for awhile. I don't want to spend $300+ for a seperate OTA HD tuner just to get CBS. Wish I could get that old cable box back... |
Bronze Member Username: Rex
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Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 06:52 pm: |
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Just a comment on Mr. Lynch's statement about printing the service manual. I took the service manual PDF file to Kinko's and had it printed in duplex for $3.12. |
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