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Bronze Member Username: Allic
Post Number: 26
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| Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 11:55 pm: |
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Bronze Member Username: Allic
Post Number: 28
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 01:09 pm: |
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Why pay for cards and support when this puppy gets everything right out of the box
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Bronze Member Username: Knee_grows_back
Post Number: 19
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 01:33 pm: |
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Fcuk off spammer...go somewhere else and spam.. |
Bronze Member Username: Allic
Post Number: 31
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 01:52 pm: |
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Look at the name of the thread, I think it is you that is spamming. I hope someone takes your computer away,or you go to jail. If the impusive way you conduct yourself in this forum is any indication of your self control you will be in the slammer in no time at all!
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 02:06 pm: |
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So let me get this straight. You are on here selling publicly a flashed FTA system, which is 100% illegal on both sides of the border, and you are telling our pigment impaired brethren that he is going to jail>
huh...pot meet.... |
Bronze Member Username: Allic
Post Number: 34
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 03:28 pm: |
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Well if you did your research before posting you
would know that you have to enable the decrypion.
so if the customer does thats out of my hands.
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 03:59 pm: |
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so can i get free tv with this unit?
what is the legal angles? if im in canada can i get dish without getting in trouble? |
Bronze Member Username: Allic
Post Number: 36
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 04:11 pm: |
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Dish is free for canadaians. dish network can only brodcast to the 49 paralell.there is no canadaian content in the feed so the CRTC will not permit them to colect revenue in canada. So you are permitted to receive ANY SATELLITE DRIFT
you can pick up. this goes for dtv also.
with the fortec lifetime ultra you can get up to 3000 fta chans. So if everythng goes to nag2 then you will still be able to reveive programing.
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 04:24 pm: |
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thanx very good info |
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 04:53 pm: |
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do i have to pay for the forum? |
Bronze Member Username: Allic
Post Number: 38
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 04:55 pm: |
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NO the forum is free and it takes 10 seconds to join.
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Gordo is a lyer Unregistered guest |
| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 05:19 pm: |
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You are wrong.
In Canada, it is illegal to view any satellite signal that originates outside of Canada which has not been approved by the CRTC and which is not being carried by one of the major programming vendors, whether it is free or not.
It does NOT matter that you cannot receive the programming in any other way, and that neither Bell nor Starchoice carry the signal, you still CANNOT watch the signal legally.
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 06:33 pm: |
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Hi everyone. Let me just start by saying that i am a smaller dealer that just got into this FTA business. I used to buy, but now i sell. After viewing these forums, i found that there was an important post missing, regarding the real legal situation and FTA.
So, what did i do? I just paid $800 to meet for a few hours with a lawyer that is very knowledgeable in telecommunications. Here is what i can pass on, for free.
IS FTA LEGAL IN NORTH AMERICA
Absolutely. By definition, it is FREE to air. Free channels, and a reciever to watch them with. There is nothing wrong with Free to Air. The goverment knows that, the big companies (b3ll, echoshit, cable companies) know it, and so should you. Free to Air has been around long before all of this craze revolving around the industry. Nothing has changed
IS IT LEGAL TO BUY FTA RECEIVERS FROM ANY WEB SITE
Absolutely. It doesn't really matter which site is selling the reciever, if it is FTA, then you can purchase it. Even if the site advertises illegal decryption, you can still buy it, as long as when you recieve it, you are watching FTA. That is why there are factory manufacturer software files. You are not responsible for the marketing of the web site. Only they are.
If you buy steak knives from a site that condones murder, because you like the brand of knives, you can rest assured that no one is coming knocking at your door for any crime. This is the same. Maybe your unit was "pre-flashed" when sent, but then who's to say you didn't flash it back right away, and watch FTA channels? maybe the price was right, or the model was hard to find. Either way, you are legally free to purchase anywhere.
IF MY DEALER GETS INTO LEGAL TROUBLE, AM I AT RISK TOO?
No. Unlike DTV hack equipment, you are safe from being "sued" or pursued for purchasing FTA. With DTV, there really was no other reason for getting a LOADER other than to program cards. Sure, you could argue you like to test atmel chips, but basically, if your dealer was busted, you were in big trouble.
FTA is different. A dealer can get in trouble for marketing a certain way, or for modifying units. But you, as an end-user, are never at risk, simply because FTA receivers are fully legal. It would take a stakeout at your house, watching you download encrypted channels to come after you for signal theft. If you see an ice-cream truck with antennas outside your home, watch out. Other than that, don't even think about it.
SHOULD I BE CONCERNED ABOUT ANYTHING?
Not at all. If you ever get a phone call from Echoshit, B#ll, or a lawyer's office, never, even for a second, worry about it. They are not coming after you. They would simply want information on your dealer. Don't incriminate yourself by even listening to the call. Politely say "I only watch FTA programming..bye..i'm in the middle of dinner". Because you are not at risk, never put yourself in this situation. They can never prove otherwise. Remember, you are only watching FTA programming. Period.
THE FUTURE
Basically...Just enjoy TV. Don't worry. Don't be paranoid. No one is ever coming after you. No one is suing you. No one is watching you. No one can prevent you from watching FTA television. Don't even worry about your dealer, and records of purchase. As far as the law is concerned, you purchased FTA. Let your dealer sort out any messes. It doesn't concern you. You should just watch TV.
Yes...this post cost me a pretty penney. But I wanted to be sure, and I wanted to fully understand my legal position. Hopefully, dealers will copy this email and send it to their customers so everyone can be properly informed. At least post it on your websites. It will make visitors/customers of your site much more comfortable purchasing products |
Bronze Member Username: Allic
Post Number: 39
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 07:00 pm: |
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So like i said its all good.
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 08:22 pm: |
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read the link about FTA legality..
http://forums.wumarkus.com/viewtopic.php?p=167163#167163 |
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 08:44 pm: |
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whats the story do i have join to read? |
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| Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 09:47 pm: |
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i cant find it |
Bronze Member Username: Allic
Post Number: 44
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| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 01:18 am: |
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i did you have to join and in not going to |
Bronze Member Username: Allic
Post Number: 47
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| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 01:18 pm: |
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| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 06:27 pm: |
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Do i have to enter the keys myself? |
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| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 07:48 pm: |
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I recommend everyone stay away from this site...Gordo speaks with forked tongue...should be reported for price gouging ($300 from him..$150-$190 from most other sites) and spreading false information regarding FTA receivers legality...at least tell the customers and people the TRUTH!....maybe satscams.com and other REPUTABLE sites would be very interested in your site,prices and lies to people.. |
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| Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 08:18 pm: |
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CAN NOT BELIVE THE BULL AROUND HERE. ITS LIKE YOUR TRING TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO BUYING DTV OR DISH
THERE IS NO LAW AGAINST FTA RECEIVERS PERIOD.
THE FACT THAT YOU WOULD TRY TO MANIPULATE THE UNINFORMED PUBIC SHOWS YOUR REAL MORALS AND INTENTIONS. IT LOOKS LIKE GORDO IS SELLING THE THING FROM CANADA THE SAME PLACE ALL THE LOADERS AND ATMEGA,S COME FROM. SO ALL THIS LAW TALK IS CRAP. |
Bronze Member Username: Analman_returns
Post Number: 35
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| Posted on Tuesday, February 01, 2005 - 08:51 am: |
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