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Username: Oldlyme5

Post Number: 1
Registered: Dec-04
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Hi all-
I recently changed my digital cable box to one with dvr (it's a scientific atlanta 8000HD) and I am trying to hook up my dvd recorder. I want to be able to record programs that I have saved on the dvr and put them on a dvd. This seems pretty basic to me but my cable company (Adelphia) says that it cannot be done. Does anyone know how to do this?
I would greatly appreciate any help that you could give me.
Thanks.
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JET
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You cannot make a (portable) dvd copy from a digital cable box. The studios will never allow that. With HDMI hookups, some kind of fee might make it possible in the future

Now note with for example Comcast cable - they do have a new Motorola DVR box (for hard drive copies) that will make even pristine hi def copies for time shifting to other times. Since there is no upside limit on the eventual size of these hard drives - this could be great for viewers but still keep the studios happy

Also Sony will soon have a box to do the same for over-the-air signals, hi def to hid def digital recording

What you call "basic", - to the studios is in fact a HUGE DEAL. They will never allow (non-hard drive)portable dvd copies of their movies w/o a toll

Only possible way around this, assuming one was making hi def video copies of movies, might be using a D-VHS machine , but I doubt that is even possible off a cable box

The studios believe that one free digital copy in circulation - means a 1000 - which technically is correct for dvd's because there is no video dropoff from repeat copying
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I have a DVD recorder hooked up to my scientific atlanta DVR, and it works fine. Except for HBO, and other "digital" broadcasted stations that is. But that may be just my DVD recorder which evidently has a handy little chip in it to prevent you from copying these higher-quality stations. Why? Good old greed I suppose. My Toshiba DVD recorder (which I do not recommend, but hear good things about Panasonics) says ALERT! on it whenever I attempt to burn a DVD of say, Bill Mahrer from HBO. Good thing, because I might sell it on ebay (kidding of course!). This is crazy because if someone wanted to purchase a movie, they can already do this....
Anyway, for all the rest of the stations, I just feed an SVHS cable and audio cable to the DVD recorder and I record most stations perfectly. Recommendation: be very, very selective which DVD record you purchase (read user reviews first).
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Username: Raylew52

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Hey David, could you reccomend which DVD recorder you have or ones you have heard are good. I need one to mainly copy shows saved on my Adelphia DVR (Scientific Atlanta 800HD). Thanks!

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Username: Lampright

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Post Number: 48
Registered: Jan-05
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I don't own a DVD recorder...we'll I do on my computer. But, can't you just plug Svideo or composite video into the DVD recorder, push play on your DVR, and then push record on your DVD recorder? Or does it only record analog cable directly through the cable?
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Username: Berta

Post Number: 18
Registered: Mar-05
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So let me see I have this correctly.....if I get Comcast's DVR box, I can't create DVD's of shows that I have saved to the DVR's hard drive?
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"I don't own a DVD recorder...we'll I do on my computer. But, can't you just plug Svideo or composite video into the DVD recorder, push play on your DVR, and then push record on your DVD recorder? "

Actually Brian yes you can do exactly that using an S-Video or composite connection.

"Or does it only record analog cable directly through the cable?"

Not only but also Brian.

"So let me see I have this correctly.....if I get Comcast's DVR box, I can't create DVD's of shows that I have saved to the DVR's hard drive?"

You can record from your Comcast DVR toyour DVD recorder Roberta as long as you are using an analog connection such as mentioned above (S-Video or composite). Any digital recordings must be made using firewire to a device such as an DVHS video tape recorder.

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Username: Berta

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xvxvxvx -

Thanks for the help. By using the S-video or composite link, I would be making an analog recording from a digital broadcast. Correct? Otherwise, I assume that I could use a firewire to my Apple and then burn the DVD.



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xvxvxvx
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Nearly correct, I do not think you will be able to send a digital signal via firewire to an HDCP non-compliant device such as a PC without using some type of pirating software.


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Username: Ccrnnj

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Registered: Mar-05
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I just had a Comcast Motorola DVR hooked up to my Tobshiba TV. I would like to hook up my DVD/VHS combo and the surround stero. Is this possible?
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xvxvxvx
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Yes Karen,

You need an S-Video cable hooked from the S-Video output of your Motorola STB to the S-Video input of your DVD/VCR.

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MATTSCUM
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My dilemma is that I want to record HBO from my Dish satellite DVR to DVD. I don't have a DVD recorder, yet, but am now shopping for one that will do that recording the best. So, my questions are (1) Will HBO's "copy once" technology allow me to make standard--not DVD RAM--DVDs going from satellite DVR to a DVD Recorder? (2) What recorder(s) are recommended? Any thoughts about the SONY RDR GX300?
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gosefroba
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Can I record Tv from my Tv and tansfer them using a s-video cable???????? because i might buy a pvp.
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Username: Murraymcleod

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Registered: Mar-05
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Since Comcast can't seem to provide me with a Motorola 6412 HD DVR (they say that even though my cable network is ready, the DVR's aren't available), what's to prevent me from buying one on eBay and hooking it up in place of my current HD cable box? Would the cable company know the difference??
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fx
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"what's to prevent me from buying one on eBay(?)"

Nothing at all........

"and hooking it up in place of my current HD cable box?

Still nothing stopping you......

" Would the cable company know the difference?? "

Most likely they would not.....

Unfortunately you never asked the only truly relevant question which is: Would the 6412 DVR work properly after I hooked it up to my cable system? Now then you would have gotten some useful information.

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Anonymous
 
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I have a Panasonic Showstopper hard disk recorder, a Panasonic DVD Video Recorder and both Direct TV and a cable connection. The DVD video recorder does not accept direct tv programming, only cable. How can I connect everything to my home theater setup and be able to access both satelite and cable?
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I have a JVC combination DVD player/VCR, a Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300HD (digital HD cable box and DVR) provided by Time Warner Cable and a Mitsubishi DLP HDTV. I have the DVR/cable box connected to my TV, but would now like to connect my DVD/VCR so that I can record from my DVR to my VCR (as prompted by the cable box) and watch VHS tapes and DVDs.

Can anyone tell me the best way to hook up my DVD player/VCR?
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I have a liteon dualformat dvd recorder with 160 gig harddrive record any digital movies to my harddrive if I want to keep, copy to dvd no problems with directv also can use recorder like dvr pause replay etc.If you are having trouble with cable my suggestion swich to satelite.
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is it possible to get digital cable with my pc? I have the digital service and a digital converter which is hooked up to my tv. but on my pc, i can only get the standard cable (2-99). Do i need a special software or anything ???
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Username: Ucladtv

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Registered: Sep-05
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Well, I have a dish sat setup, with a tivo and a sony dvd recorder. I can record anything, HBO, PPV, SHO, I dont care what it is. I have recorded
PPV movies for over a year and have had 0 problems. Maybe you guys should get away from that crap cable company. And none are worse then comcast.
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Username: Highdef

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Man pgent your the luckiest person on earth.. I have my directv connected to my sony rdr-gx315 and can't record more than 12 seconds of HBO PPV OR SHO. It gives me a copyright error, something like "You cannot copy copyright movies" and stops the recording process. I'm thinking of purchasing red pro to see if this helps, if not I'm giving up I guess and I'll just copy DVD to DVD.
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fx
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Mike if is that important to you (and if it is copy protection causing your problem) you won't be able to copy dircctly to a DVD either. You could always purchase a Panasonic DVD recorder, they currently improperly ignore the 5C copy flag.

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Username: Vinniej

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Registered: Oct-05
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Help my TV have a DVI input the DVRHD box is HDMI I have audio but no picture have anyone ever experience this problem with the (Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR) or dose anyone have a fix’s for this, Please let me know.
Thank You
Vinnie
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I was hooking up a friends dvd player to the input on the Scientific atlanta explorer 8300,the front of the box,was currious what channel i am suppost to put on for the input to play on the television?
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Username: Elvis_lives

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TRYING TO FIND OUT WHICH DVR I CAN BUY THAT WILL WORK WITH MY FREE SATELLITE SERVICE
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I am trying to hook up my hdtv, hd dvr, dvd player, and vhs. Please help!!
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fx
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Jennifer,

That will not work, those inputs are disabled. You need to hook up the DVD player directly to your TV.

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seehuts
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How do you connect a DVR box(from cable company)and a playstation 2 to tv?
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fx
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"How do you connect a DVR box(from cable company)and a playstation 2 to tv?"

Seperately........

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Username: Pepo5612

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Mr. FX,

Seems that you are quite knowledgeable about DVR's, wanted to ask your personal opinion on the following unit: Panasonic DVD recorder with built in 100 GB hard drive, model DMREH50S? I currently have a 54" Toshiba HDTV, digital cable box and would be curious to know whether this machine is good for recording from cable box, HBO, PPV, creating DVD-RW's.
Your input would be appreciated.
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fx
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Juan,

It is as good as any and better than most sine the LP encoding has been mush improved from the prior models. Just keep in mind that:

1. The manual is a difficult read
2. The manual has all the information you need
3. This as all others only records an analog signal.
4. Use high quality blank DVD's (Taio Yuden=best)

I might mention one thing, some HBO, Showtime and most PPV movies are now being copy restricted with the 5C flag copy protection system. These flags will not stop you from recording to your PVR but may limit your ability to record to a DVD. The older Panny's E-95 and older incorrectly ignore the 5C copy flag protection so these should always work, I do not know for sure about the E50.

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Username: Pepo5612

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Thanks for your input fx..
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seehuts
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thanks for the worthless reply fx
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Anonymous
 
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FX,
I have a new Motorola "silver" HD box. If I buy a Motorola 6412 DVR off Ebay and hook it up, will I get my current programming from Comcast (Atlanta)? If not will they let me use it if I register it? lastly, is the programming "over the wire", or in the box? If it's in the box can it be programmed to work? thanks.
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fx
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Seehuts, ask a stupid question and what will you get? Think about it you moron.

ANON,

I answered your question in depth in your other thread.

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sidd
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I am renting a Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8000 from TW Cable. I have a very prized program recorded from this weekend and would like to archive to DVD. Only DVD r/rw drive that I have is on my PC. Is it possible to transfer the program to my PC so that I can archive to DVD?
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perfectionistech
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To all well informed, I could use accurate info please.

Problem: Sci-Atlanta8300HD (terribly restrictive): dying(no pict.) but recorded shows watchable and accessible. Naturally, all dig. ports diabled(thx!). Calling TWC cust svc is handjob heaven and term cust. svc is a misnomer.

Needs: locate most suitable DVD recorder(new/used) for transfer.

Dilemma: Can I use a DVD recorder as if it were a VHS recorder? I gather yes but need certainty. I would prefer PC/MAC transfer directly to a DVD burner but am especially doubtful.

Hey, I can understand first run premium showings, but edited Columbo reruns chock full of commercials? Greedy Idiots.

Oh, BTW, how's DishNetwork?...anyone?
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Perfectionistech
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FX: ref: Pan. E50 in ???, right?; well how about E10 or E30? The E95 is out of my $ range.

Thanx
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I have bought 2 8300SD. Called Time Warner in San Antonio. They refused to activate-"not our inventory". Is there a way to turn them on at all without TWC?
Thank you,
Mike
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confused in indy
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i have a Liteon Dvd Recorder and Comcast's Motorola DVR. How do i hook this thing up so i can also make dvd's from recorded programs on my DVR? Thanks!
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Username: Mojo1180


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as far as dvd recorders go check out the
LITEON LVW-5045 R I have herd nothing but great reviews in all the fta forums just ordered it my self do to arive from new egg Dec 1
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hojo
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I have the Motorola 6412 DVR from Comcast, and a Sony Vaio with DVD burner. I hooked up the computer to the DVR with an 1394 cable but cannot get my computer to recognize the DVR. Is there software out there that I need to download in order to copy shows I've recorded to DVD or is this not possible?
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I have a DMR-E55 from Panasonic. It will allow me to record movies from STARZ (Directv) on a DVD-R. I just got a new Toshiba RD-XS54. It will not allow me to copy the same program the Panasonic permitted to DVD-R. It will allow me to copy to a DVD-RAM. The Toshiba will send movies to your PC via an Ethernet 10/100 connection (but not any that are copy protected). It has a number of other nice features which don't actually work for me. The high speed dubbing doesn’t work with DVD-R discs. The online TV Guide only works if you have cable. There is no way of eliminated empty channels from the channel up/down progression. The input select (which can only be accessed by opening a door on the remote) doesn’t work (it stops functioning when you get to the tuner). All in all I am pretty sure I am going to return it even though I will be charged a !0% restocking fee.

I have a VHS “Fantasia” which I tried to put on DVD. The Panasonic would not permit it. I tried copying with the A/V connection, with a RF connection, and with an RF connection from VHS to TVIO hard drive (which worked), to the Panasonic via an RF connection. It still did not work. So the copy protection is carried in the actual video framing and is independent of whether the signal is being transmitted via digital or analog.

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I capture and view over-the-air digital signals of local commercial network stations (not premium, pay-for-stations) using an in-house antenna connected to my Samsung TV (with a built-in digital tuner). I want to tape The Tonight Show on my DVR/VCR in high-def digital, but the DVR/VCR's channel setup option only locates the analog over-the-air signals. If taping high def digital signals that are broadcast over the air is possible, what are the connections and system setup required?
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Username: Justfig

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HOJO, the firewire is not activated on the 6412 from Comcast. It is for "future upgrade".

JF
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I have an SA 8000HD PVR from Adelphia and I have hooked up an iLO DVD Recorder to it.

I'm having a problem recording DVDs from the 8000HD where the audio and video are not fully synced--the mouths move, but the audio is slightly delayed. I've also noticed that music is mangled in some of the recordings. I'm using the "Copy to Archive" function in the 8000HD. The recordings look find on the 8000HD, but don't translate to the IlO

When I copy from my Sony Handycam (Analog 8mm)I don't have this problem--the iLO seems to have no problem digitizing it on the fly and burning it to the DVD.

I have heard lots of problems with iLOs--but I have not experienced any of the most "popular" ones. Only this recording issue.

Any thoughts?
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To: rvroush

The problem you're having is that the DVR/VCR is not capable of receiving (and recording) high-def. Blue-ray DVD's will be out in 2006 (although at too high a price) as will HD-DVD. These will be able to record high-def. Currently, the only consumer format that can record high-def is DVHS, which uses a tape that is the same size as VHS but can record much more information. I assume you're receiving the high-def broadcast from your local NBC station. If you buy an LG LST-3410A DVR, you could record high-def programming (on it's built-in 160GB hard drive) like the Tonight Show.

To: Newton Bible

You're incorrect, the firewire is active on the 6412. However, you've got to have a DVHS recorder to connect to the 6412 in order to archive a program that was recorded on the 6412. I'm not aware of a driver that'll let you download content to a computer (any software guys out there?). I've been archiving high-def programs since I got the 6412 (Comcast SF Bay Area) and they look just like broadcast HD.
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Hello,
I want to buy a motorola dvr on ebay, but my cable company tells me it will not work. Although I am renting a motorola from them.
They tell me it has to be entered into their system. They also say it must be the 6412 phase 3 model. Any truth to that?
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Santa
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I have an ILO DVDR05 recorder hooked up to my 55" Mitsubishi rear projection HDTV ready TV as well as a VHS VCR. I have a rooftop antenna and DirecTV hooked up with splitters to both units. I get a nice reception to the TV or the VCR, but not with the DVD recorder. Prior to the ILO I tried Panosonic and Sony DVD recorders and the reception was poor in all three. I tried AV connections and SVHS cables. To the TV from the DVD recorder I'm using component gold cables and I even tried using AV without sucess. If I play a bought DVD it is great. Now the kicker. I recorded what looked like a poor quality HBO movie on DVD. It looks as bad as when I recorded it, however playing it on a standard Toshiba TV in another DVD player the movie looked great. Any help or ideas ? Thanks.
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I just hooked up the Sony RDR-GX315 DVD Recorder so that I could record shows stored on my TIVO to DVD. It seems to be hooked up correctly because it will play DVDs but when I attempt to record to a dvd-r, it only plays back noise. DVD-R is an acceptable format for this player. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am getting frustrated. Thanks!
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jcar1990
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Exactly what materials do I need to transfer a show recorded on the Comcast DVR hardrive to a DVD
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jcar1990
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Exactly what materials do I need to transfer a show recorded on the Comcast DVR hardrive to a DVD
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Username: Bitsbucket

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Hi all,
I am new to this so be gentle! I have a liteon 5007A DVD recorder, (I believe this is an older model, hopefully old enough that it does not have the "FLAG CHIP" to stop it from recording from my Adelphia DVR, It is a Scientific Atlanta 8000HD. I want the same thing everyone else here wants. To be able to record shows that I have recorded with the DVR box to the Liteon Box so I have a copy of the show on DVD.
1) is this possible.
2) apparently from what I have read here the answer is NO?
3) If I can....how do I connect it? I have the option of 2 types of connections, one with RCA cables the other with the 5 pin PS2 type connector (SVHS?) anyway can anyone help me here?
Thanks a million in advance,
bitsbucket
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Username: Scottyb1116

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I have a Motorola 3XXXI DVR cable box from comcast, I was wondering if I could hook this up to my HP laptop and burn programming to DVD, And how and what do I need to do this? Thanks for the help.
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Username: Etat1230

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I am in the same situation as Scott Blake... I have the Motorola 3XXXI DVR cable box from Comcast - I've connected it to my laptop through the IEEE 1394 port in the back of the cable box, my laptop recognizes that new hardware is attached, but it can't find any drivers to run it. Anyone have a solution?