Archive through July 27, 2009

Gold Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 9977
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 07:39 pm:

Get those Evo's out of the box yet Chris...and how about the stands?

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 210
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 09:06 pm:

I am calling STO tomorrow to order some 10's unless someone here wants to sell theirs.

Gold Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 9985
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 09:09 pm:

Not me, I like mine!

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2697
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 10:40 pm:

I'm not selling mine and I haven't even heard them yet!

Mordecai, Mike @ STO said he only had two pairs left in maple when I ordered mine on 6/4, and the other finishes are $90 more, so I'd hop to it if I were you.

Platinum Member

Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12683
Registered: Dec-04

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 10:49 pm:

Barter a bit and bring a live chicken and offer 40$ more for another finish.

Gold Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 9988
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 11:18 pm:

6/4 is a while back Mordecai...

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 211
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 11:25 pm:

Chris, I spoke to him last week and he said he still had some. I think he is playing it up like he is running out. Man, I would love to have them in black. I really like the look of my black 8's.

Gold Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 9989
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 11:26 pm:

OK covers on just for you Chris...

Upload

Gold Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 9990
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 11:28 pm:

I've had a ton of black speakers and always wanted a sycamore or maple one...even though it's not still in vogue I sure like 'em.

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2698
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 11:29 pm:

Sweet Art, now be carefull taking them off.

If you ask me, Cherry is the way to go Mordecai.

Gold Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 9991
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 11:32 pm:

If you are goin to have them for a long time Mordecai get what you want...talk the man down...take Nuck's chicken to the bargaining table!

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2699
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 11:32 pm:

Gold Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 9992
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 11:34 pm:

Chris they are just barely on there and I'll definitely be careful removing them (not that it matters apparently...ouch).

Gold Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 9993
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 11:35 pm:

Dude, get that ugly cherry off my maple thread...lol!

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2700
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 11:45 pm:

I think KEF has an "Dark Apple" finish that is very similar to that Cherry; it's more red than orange.

Dark Walnut seems to have replaced Maple in several line ups; the Diamond 9 & 10 are available in Walnut.

The best finishes, IMHO, were those crazy exotics AV123 were using out of their Columbia factory; I have NO idea if they're even producing stuff down there anymore.

HTD also had some crazy finishes several years ago. I never see anything about them anymore?

Gold Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 9995
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Friday, June 19, 2009 - 11:53 pm:

Kef's "Dark Apple" is a vinyl wrap I believe. At least in the IQ series.

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 212
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 12:16 am:

Chris, did you get the cherry's for the same price as the maple? I will try to bargain with STO. If they are not moving much inventory they might be willing to. I mean it would be my third pair of Wharfies from STO.

Neither the cherry or maple look bad. I just like the contrast of the black cabinet, black driver manifolds, and black drivers.

I really think the 10's are what I'm looking for in low end. I don't think I want to mess with a sub. I just have to decide if I want to wait for a used pair in black to show up on Audiogon. Maybe I should post up a looking to buy add. Someone out their might want to move up or need to sell them.

Has any of you had a pair of he RC10's? Vann's has them on sale for $299 with free shipping. I would guess that they have no more bass then the 8's.

Gold Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 9996
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 12:29 am:

Chris has Maple.

So Mike has no Black ones huh.

The RC10's are fine as are some offerings from almost every speaker company...eyes on the prize man.

Gold Member

Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio
United States

Post Number: 2146
Registered: Jun-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 12:33 am:

That picture of the Cherry is a photocopy,they are not that orangish looking they actually look very good,I had the Cherry,but i wanted the maple,but he said it would be about a week longer because he had to go to warehouse and get them,that Maple looks very nice

Chris Your gonna like the pics i post of the Encore SLS,the Moho natural satin looks better than my X-statics in the same finish.

.

Gold Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 9999
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 12:38 am:

He told me that he would have to go to the warehouse for the Maple...then he called me back and told me that he was wrong that he had a pair in the store...new in sealed box..I said send 'em on man!

Gold Member

Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio
United States

Post Number: 2147
Registered: Jun-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:01 am:

Yea,i would have rather had the maple,the cherry is nice,but i cant count how many cherry speakers I've had its the new black,I thought about the cherry in the X-statics and Encore SLS,and av123's columbian cherry is the truth,but i just could'nt stomach another cherry speaker.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10001
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:03 am:

Kind of like me with black...no more black speakers for awhile.

Silver Member

Username: Kbear

Canada

Post Number: 132
Registered: Dec-06

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:21 am:

If I ever buy a pair I'm opting for rosewood. I think maple is the next best looking but the rosewood is gorgeous.

http://highendshop.sk/images/evo2-10.jpg

While we are on the topic of finishes, I think my Tannoys look pretty sweet!

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/1/511803.jpg

^ See the magnetic grills on the Energy? They work like a charm. Such a simple and logical solution.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10002
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:24 am:

Is that a Mercury Dan.

Gold Member

Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio
United States

Post Number: 2150
Registered: Jun-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:29 am:

Yeah im not fan of black either,i really dont like piano black its dust a dune,cleaning the F5's was a every 3 day job,that gets tiring i was cleaning them more than i was cleaning my Supra Turbo with a $7k paint job.

Silver Member

Username: Kbear

Canada

Post Number: 134
Registered: Dec-06

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:32 am:

Yes, Mercury F2. It took me a while to warm up to them, but with a lot of hours under them now they sound really good. But not in the EVO2 class of course.

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 213
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:34 am:

Why all the hate on black?

I like the maple okay but I've never been a big fan of furniture colored speakers. I had a pair walnut colored Yamaha's once but black is my preferred color. So, I guess I am the only black fan. Haters...

So, did Chris get the same deal on Cherry that STO is offering on the Maple? Was he just pulling my chain?

Silver Member

Username: Kbear

Canada

Post Number: 135
Registered: Dec-06

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:35 am:

I've quickly realized that is a problem with my piano black Quads, any little bit of dust or fingerprint on them and it really sticks out. Not only that, but scratches in the laquer finish will show.

I'm going to need to set something up so that anyone who gets within a foot of them will get an electric shock!

Gold Member

Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio
United States

Post Number: 2152
Registered: Jun-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:38 am:

Yeah Dan,the Rosewood is very nice i had the rosewood Evo 20's & 40's they were beautiful,they collected tons of dust though as much as pianoblack.

Michael Wodek

Gold Member

Username: Mike3

Wylie, Tx
USA

Post Number: 2006
Registered: May-06

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:42 am:

Mordecai,

I do not think Chris ever indicated that he got Cherry. I believe he was just putting that finish out there for others' consideration.

If you ever want to check out the bass on your 8's just PM me. You can swap them into my kit and give them a listen if you like.

Gold Member

Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio
United States

Post Number: 2154
Registered: Jun-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:48 am:

Yep i had cats and dogs and believe me cleaning 255 pounds per side of the F5's was like cleaning 2 new Mini Coopers.

Gold Member

Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio
United States

Post Number: 2156
Registered: Jun-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:59 am:

Dan i had the Mercury R2's they had a beautiful midrange almost to good for their price,but i agree with you their topend is nowhere near the Evo2's but what a nice midrange great with vocals,bass was a bit lite to but very well organized.

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 214
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 02:08 am:

Thanks Michael. If only you lived a little closer. I live in North Fort Worth are so that is about 1.5 drive. We should get together sometime. I know Jan lives in the metroplex also.

Platinum Member

Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12687
Registered: Dec-04

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 07:10 am:

That aint far, Mord. Give Mike a call. Fine chap.

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2701
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 08:39 am:

I prefer that Cherry finish, but an extra $90 on a pair of speakers that cost $300 was a bit too rich for my taste, so I stuck with the Maple. Those pics of the Maple are growing on me though.

I tried to twist Mike @ STO's arm to work with me, but he was having no part of it.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10003
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 10:49 am:

No hate on black Mordecai. I've owned more black speakers than any other color...just tired of it. I'll warm up to it again someday.

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 215
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 12:00 pm:

I left out that is a 1 1/2 hour drive to Wiley.

I may have to wait on the 10's. I'm having my clutch replaced in my Mustang and it's going to cost more than I expected.

Michael - What is you setup?

Platinum Member

Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12688
Registered: Dec-04

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:14 pm:

I love this part...go ahead Mike.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10006
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:18 pm:

It may be on his profile if he keeps it updated Mordecai.

Gold Member

Username: T_bomb25

Dayton, Ohio
United States

Post Number: 2160
Registered: Jun-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 01:49 pm:

Mordecai,you putting a stock clutch back in the Stang,what year is it?

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 216
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 02:29 pm:

I have a 92 coupe and a 93 Cobra. The clutch is going in the Cobra. I'm not doing the work. I don't like working on my back and it is too hot in Texas right now. I've never done a clutch install by myself anyway. I am not a wrench head by any means. I have enough tools to do most anything but my skills are average at best.

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 217
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 02:32 pm:

You are right Art. I don't recognize much of any of his equipment. It is clearly highend. I don't think I want to hear my speakers on his system. I don't know what I'm missing so ignorance is bliss unless of course you have the money to move into the light.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10008
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 03:41 pm:

Mike's a good guy. He certainly would not be out to one up you. He's been doing this for awhile and would likely share some tips to help you optimize the performance of your system. Perhaps you could visit Mordecai, Mike.

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 218
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 03:47 pm:

Good points Art. I certainly didn't intend to imply that I thought he would "one up me" at all. Based on his post, Mike seems to measure his words and is very thoughtful and sincere. I may just visit him.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10009
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 03:58 pm:

Manolis Kalomiris
Triptych for Orchestra
Symphony No. 3
Three Greek Dances
Nikitas Tsakiroglou, Narrator
Athens State Orchestra
Byron Fidetzis, Conductor
Naxos Greek Classics Series

Michael Wodek

Gold Member

Username: Mike3

Wylie, Tx
USA

Post Number: 2009
Registered: May-06

Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 01:14 pm:

Mordecai, sorry, just got back to this thread.

It's in my profile but here is the short version of it;

Linn Sondek LP12 Turntable
Rega Saturn CD Player
McIntosh MR-71 Analog Tuner
Rogue Audio Magnum 99 Tube Pre-Amp w/phono option
McIntosh MC-240 Tube Amplifiers - mono-blocks
DIY Speaker Wire
Anthony Gallo Reference 3 S.A. (sub-amp)
Anthony Gallo Ref. 3.1a Speakers

I would like to come out to Ft. Worth some Saturday as well, perhaps with a stop at Forever Young in Irving and Marvin's in Ft. Worth along the way.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10021
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 01:18 pm:

Oops posted the tunes in the wrong place yesterday.

Platinum Member

Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12705
Registered: Dec-04

Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 01:45 pm:

Mike is top drawer, Mord.

Art, you drunken fool, I bet you phoned Nick as well.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10023
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 02:00 pm:

Sure...

Bronze Member

Username: Boulderdashcci

Canton, Massachusetts
USA

Post Number: 67
Registered: Apr-07

Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 02:07 pm:

http://www.tsto.com/cgi-bin/TSTO.storefront/4a3e744900db7b662740ac100341063f/Pro duct/View/3105

Anyone seen that yet? Seems like a really good deal if you're looking for a full surround setup.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10024
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 02:22 pm:

Yeah I did see that and it does appear to be a very good deal for an HT solution.

FYI Chris...I still haven't put the grills back on Evo's. They seem to suffer less than most of my speakers have by leaving them on....it's a good thing.

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2702
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 03:40 pm:

I'm NEVER drinking again!...EVER!

That's good news Art.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10029
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Sunday, June 21, 2009 - 04:12 pm:

You can send some of that top shelf Scotch thisaway Mr Molloy!

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2703
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:27 pm:

There's plenty of it too Art.

Johnnie Walker, 1-Blue, 2-Gold, Achor Steam Old Potrero, Sazerac 18-yr. Rye, and a 60-yr. old bottle of Pinch.

It's not all scotch, but all top-shelf.

I'm starting to gag...

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10036
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 01:41 pm:

And my address is .....lol!

Platinum Member

Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12708
Registered: Dec-04

Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 04:48 pm:

Don't throw up the good stuff!!!

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2705
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 04:50 pm:

Oh that's way too late.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10038
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 06:01 pm:

Makes me wanna cry....

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2706
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 06:19 pm:

In all earnestness, whiskey and/or whisky, was not the culprit, it was this foul brew http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29/39908 , perhaps 5 over the course of 5-hrs.

Man, I can not drink anymore.

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2709
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 07:23 pm:

Some poor fellow is trying to sell these Rosewood EVO2-10 for $550 on CAM http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/132255-wharfedale_evo210s_rosewood/

...and they're blemished!

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10041
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 07:52 pm:

Good grief...

Platinum Member

Username: Nuck

Post Number: 12712
Registered: Dec-04

Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 08:19 pm:

Silly Canadians.

They cost about 450 new here.

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2713
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Monday, June 22, 2009 - 11:17 pm:

Art, are those custom jumpers you're using?

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10047
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 07:22 am:

They are:

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?cablspkr&1248694638&/Anti-Cable-Jumpers-b y-Paul-Spe

They enhance the sound of the cables your using while adding a bit of their own quality.

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2714
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 08:32 pm:

Thanks Art, they're not too pricey, but I might just build up my own.

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 237
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 08:48 pm:

Art - can you use the jumpers with bi wired speakers?

Would these jumpers benefit HT speakers?

The Chord distributor in Dallas will sell me cables and interconnects since there isn't a retailer here. Carnival Silver two lead is $3.50 a foot and the 4 lead is $7.00. I also priced some interconnects that match up nicely with the speaker cables. The Cobra $115 and the Crimson for $85. Not to pricey but not cheap either. I would like to find some used so maybe I will look for a while before dropping a couple of hundred.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10051
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 09:15 pm:

The jumpers are to replace the brass jumpers that come on bi-wirable speakers like your Evo's. Early in this thread is a picture of the jumpers. Go back to page one, I think, and you'll see what they look like. They are far better than the brass jumpers and in some cases better than using a length of the speaker cable you're using.

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 238
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 09:22 pm:

Okay, that is what I thought. I read something about jumpers and biwiring somewhere. I am using wire jumper for my HT speakers. Do you think anti-cables are worth buying for my HT speakers?

Any suggestions on where to set the crossover on the sub for the 8's?

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10052
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:22 pm:

I wouldn't buy 'em for the HT speakers...

You'll want to experiment with the crossover...I'd start at about 70hz and go up or down based on what you hear. First make sure the volume on the sub is loud enough to hear any adjustment you make and once you get the crossover right adjust the volume down. You really shouldn't be aware that the sub is there except that your system reaches a lower frequency than before. Felt but not heard.

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2717
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:27 pm:

I'd use WAR OF THE WORLDS as a reference, it is notorious for causing lesser subs to crumble to pieces.

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 239
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:35 pm:

Thanks Art. Good idea Chris. I have that score along with 100's more.

J. Jarvis

Silver Member

Username: James_the_god

Lancaster, Lancashire
England

Post Number: 755
Registered: Jan-05

Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 05:49 am:

An interesting thing you evo owners may want to know about evo2 quality..
Over a year back when I asked my dealer what he thought of the evos, as I was at the time considering buying some, he remarked how he thought their built quality was poor.
He had recently serviced one and was appauled at the oily mess that went everywhere.
He approved highly of the diamond 8 and 9 sound, but found the evo2s were poor on the midrange, enphasing the bass and treble. Perhaps that was just the equipement he used though!

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10053
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 07:37 am:

I own both Diamond and Evo 2...no contest for sound or build quality...seems he must have listened with his head up his a s s. To add, if a dealer really said that his credibility would be shot immediately and I'd wonder what his motivation was. The Evo's sound light years better than the Diamond's and are built far better as well.

J. Jarvis

Silver Member

Username: James_the_god

Lancaster, Lancashire
England

Post Number: 756
Registered: Jan-05

Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 10:57 am:

I thought that would be the case Art. He's an odd guy, he doesnt seem to like any speakers yet he likes them all i.e. he contradicts himself!

I really really want to hear the evos now!!

Bronze Member

Username: Boulderdashcci

Canton, Massachusetts
USA

Post Number: 68
Registered: Apr-07

Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 01:33 pm:

Other than that tweeter thing, I'd say they're fine build-quality wise. Fit and finish is very nice and clean (other than the grills which are cheap and look awful) and I've had mine open and it was very nicely built. All the joints were clean, wire routing was fine, there was a fair amount of bracing, and the bass driver uses threaded inserts rather than screwing right into the MDF. The only thing I haven't been a fan of is the binding posts as I use bare wire, so they can be a little annoying. Other than that they seem pretty well built inside and out.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10055
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 03:51 pm:

Actually while the grills stay in one piece they look pretty good on the speaker...see pic above. I wish the tweeter was attached in another way but I guess you can't have everything.

Bronze Member

Username: Boulderdashcci

Canton, Massachusetts
USA

Post Number: 69
Registered: Apr-07

Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 04:35 pm:

I've tried mine with the grills on and I can't stand how they look. The bare drivers definitely look nicer to me. To each his own, I guess.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10056
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 05:52 pm:

Yours must be ugly Freddie, mine are beautiful...lol!

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2721
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 04:49 pm:

A quick peek, more to follow...

Upload

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10073
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 05:09 pm:

Lookin' good on those stands Chris!

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10075
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 05:11 pm:

Lookin' good on those stands Chris!

Gold Member

Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

Post Number: 2722
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 05:31 pm:

Thanks Thanks Art Art.

But, I think they'll look better on the those new Sanus when I get them.

Platinum Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 10076
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 05:51 pm:

Damn double double post post!

Silver Member

Username: Mordecai

Texas

Post Number: 240
Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 05:56 pm:

Looks nice Chris. STO lowered their price on the other 10's. They are down to 359.00 a pair. Maybe they will lower them to $299 soon. I think I will hold out.

I am enjoying the sub I must admit. Although I think a 12 inch is a bit big for my room. I think I will try to pick up an 8 or 10 so I can put this one back in my HT setup.

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Username: Mordecai

Texas

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Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 05:58 pm:

I guess I am not the 2.0 purist I thought I was. Film scores sound like they are suppose to now.

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Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

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Posted on Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 06:40 pm:

Glad you are enjoying it Mordecai. An 8 or 10 would likely be a better fit for your room.

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Username: Boulderdashcci

Canton, Massachusetts
USA

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Registered: Apr-07

Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 12:07 pm:

So now that I've had some time with these speakers and listened to many different albums I'll post some more impressions.

Since getting them, the bass has come out quite a bit. It seems much deeper than before, and while still not as punchy as my other speakers, I can still feel it and it seems much more balanced with the rest of the music. I'm actually finding I'm not missing the extra punch with my old speakers as I'm realizing it was more of a distraction than anything. These have really taught me to appreciate what bass should be like I think.

With the bass came the mids, which seem very smooth but dynamic to me. Guitars sound a little polite, but I think that's an amp issue. Drums, organs, and vocals however sound excellent. I'm listening to The Tragically Hip's Phantom Power right now and Gordan's voice which is VERY dynamic sounds very realistic to me, and listening to the way the snare drum's sound decays just sounds great.

Highs I've said all along have impressed me very much with the amount of detail and resolution. I do think there is a bit of politeness when it comes to cymbals but again, I'd bet a new amp would take care of that. I really do like this tweeter though, it has all the detail I could want without sounding harsh like a metal based tweeter. It also sounds very good off axis to me....I frequently listen when falling asleep or sitting at my computer which is to the right of my system and while it's not the same as my primary listening position in that I lose proper imaging and such, it's still very impressive.

I've also pushed them pretty hard and even with my cheap Onkyo AVR they have never sounded distorted or hurt my ears or anything. Not sure if it's just that the speaker is easy to drive or what but they have never sounded bad even with my extremely underwhelming amplification. I still plan to upgrade my amplifier, probably this winter (although the NAD and Cambridge Audio deals at Spearit Sound are very tempting). But either way, these speakers have never sounded bad at all with any album I've thrown at them. My M80s had some trouble with some albums but excelled greatly with others.....I still think they do better with the albums they were good at but the Evos are much more well rounded in that they do everything. I think the biggest thing I've gotten from this speaker is the learning experience. While I haven't heard as many speakers as you guys I'm sure, I'm definitely learning what I like. I've found to disregard what sounds "impressive" (in a "look at me!" way) such as the punchy bass or over the top highs and just listen for the music. I remember auditioning the Paradigm Monitor V5s a couple years ago and being very impressed with the bass.....Looking back on that I do not think I would have been happy in the long run had I bought those speakers. What I like best about the Evos is that no aspect of them calls on itself, which I think gives it the balance that I'm only starting to appreciate.

I have some ideas for my upgrade path.....Stands as I mentioned in my other thread ( http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/1/579584.html, should be starting those soon), the room treatments as Jan has suggested (and perhaps a new room, which I was supposed to get a while ago but has yet to happen), as well as the integrated amp. I think I will be living with these speakers for quite a while though, these are the closest I've come so far to what's "right" to me and I doubt I'll find anything else in my price class that will come close. Overall I am very pleased with these speakers.

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Username: Nuck

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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 03:00 pm:

Thanks for writing, freddie.

When you get the placement and room right, you will know, and you might not need to add anything.

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Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 07:13 pm:

Thank you very much for adding your impressions to this thread Freddie and well done. Now if Chris could keep his out of the box long enough to break 'em in. BTW Freddie I agree with much of what you said and that's why my pair is going nowhere...not for a long time.

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Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 07:39 pm:

Speak of the Devil, as of today the Wharfies are up, running, and sounding sweet.

I won't have much to say about them tell next week.

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Username: Mordecai

Texas

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Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 07:45 pm:

Chris, did you just buy them? Are they the Beach? Glad to hear you got them up. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on them.

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Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 07:56 pm:

Glad to hear that your room is ready Chris...time to enjoy some music!

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Username: Exerciseguy

Brooklyn, NY
United States

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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 11:40 pm:

I've had the 10s for a while now, I think I got them right after Art did, but they've been in the box until now, and they are Maple.

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Username: Mordecai

Texas

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Registered: Jan-09

Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 12:57 am:

Duh! I just saw your pictures. I still want the 10's but I'm holding out for some reason. The acoustic foam improved the low end in my listening room. But I would like to have the bigger driver.

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Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

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Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 01:26 am:

Get 'er done Mordy.

J. Jarvis

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Username: James_the_god

Lancaster, Lancashire
England

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Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 09:19 am:

Mord. Just go for it. There is no sacrifice for bigger!

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Username: Nuck

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Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 09:54 am:

Looking forward to your impressions, Chris.

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Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

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Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:21 pm:

Well Mordecai, did ya get it done?

I'm getting incredible sound from mine in the home office. Very nice articulate bass and a very open character without being fatigueing. Midbass and midrange is very clean and open in an Epos sort of way without the extra energy that Epos brings to that fequency range. They are all that I hoped they would be...and that's very good indeed.

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Username: Kbear

Canada

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Registered: Dec-06

Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 06:56 pm:

Got a few questions for you all. I believe the Evo2-10 has the exact same drivers that are in the Quad 12L2. Assuming that is correct, should I expect the same kind of sound from the Wharfedale that I'd get from the Quad? Or are there simply too many other factors at play (like cabinet design, which is obviously different with the Evo's being curved and the 12L2 not).

I was comparing their bass extension and the Quad's seem to go deeper, 45Hz vs. 57Hz. But the Quads are +/- 6dB, while the Wharfedales are +/- 3dB, which may account for those numbers.

How detailed are the Evo's? Average, above average, or below average?

Thanks!