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Thread: Which brand is better for grunt, true power and bass? Nad, Marants, Onkyo or Krell? |
   
Bronze Member Username: Jodavis
Toronto,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 16 Registered: Apr-09
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| Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 09:59 pm: |
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Hello. I am about to make a final decision an my integrated stereo amp brand for my Cerwin Vega D-9's.. I'm sure lots of you know me. I'm talking to you Nuck! lol. Anyway, I want to make my decision based on which amp has more grunt, bass and true clean power. Would a nad integ. stereo amp suit me better or Marantz and all the others I listed be better? And also, is it better to go with a integ. stereo amp or should I go with separates? for eg, the source, pre, eq, and power amp? |
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Platinum Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 10235 Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 10:52 pm: |
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Between those two, NAD. Have you thought about Rotel? |
   
Bronze Member Username: Jodavis
Toronto,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 17 Registered: Apr-09
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| Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 12:33 am: |
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Yea. I heard of rotel. That is a bit more on the high high audiophile side. Too clean or light and not enough "dirt". That is not my style. haha. If I get a NAD stereo integ. amp and connect it to my A/V receiver so I don't waste my A/V, will I lose the bass tones and qualities from the NAD? In other words, the receiver is the pre pre, the NAD stereo amp will be the pre, and then the power amp. Quality loss from the NAD? |
   
Platinum Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 10238 Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 12:41 am: |
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You can buy a dirty Rotel....Nuck! |
   
Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 12934 Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 08:06 am: |
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Julien, if you want to try a Rotel power amp, send me a pm. You can try mine. It is a 5 channel amp, you can bi-amp the CV's. Maybe... |
   
Gold Member Username: Dmitchell
Ottawa,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 2830 Registered: Feb-07
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| Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 08:54 pm: |
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I'd take Rotel over NAD. And a half decent Rotel integrated will slap your CV's. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 10241 Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 09:04 pm: |
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That's what I'm talkin' about! |
   
Gold Member Username: Frank_abela
Berkshire
UK
Post Number: 3735 Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 12:12 pm: |
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Nobody's mentioned the Krell? In terms of sheer grunt, power and slam, the Krell will have the rest of these amps for breakfast. I don't find that Krells time particularly well, but then neither do the Marantz or Rotels - the NAD is a bit more fluid in this respect, but I'd be surprised if you found an NAD with the same fidelity and power, slam and grunt. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 10297 Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 01:21 pm: |
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I didn't mention Krell because it's in a price class not associated with CV speakers. Also if he thinks that Rotel "is a bit more on the high high audiophile side"...well, nuff said ! |
   
Silver Member Username: Soundgame
Toronto,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 885 Registered: Jun-08
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| Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 06:36 pm: |
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I believe this might be the one Frank had in mind. For a Krell it's big bang for the buck at around $5000 U.S. I believe - but whether that's affordable all depends and at that price there is other gear out there to compare with: http://www.krellonline.com/krell_component.php?id=110&page=S300i |
   
Platinum Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 10301 Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 09:48 pm: |
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Again George, the OP stated that Rotel "is a bit more on the high high audiophile side". Where does Krell fit into that...lol...probably doesn't. Never know I guess. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 12971 Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 04:27 am: |
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Maybe Hafler? |
   
Gold Member Username: Touche6784
USA
Post Number: 1337 Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 07:56 am: |
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Why not go proaudio like Behringer or a used Carver amp. |
   
Gold Member Username: Frank_abela
Berkshire
UK
Post Number: 3742 Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 11:27 am: |
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Well, I mentioned the Krell because he mentioned it in the thread title...! |
   
Gold Member Username: Touche6784
USA
Post Number: 1338 Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 12:30 pm: |
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Frank, I think it has been established pretty well that this guy has no idea what he is talking about so he probably didn't know what Krell was. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 12974 Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 01:39 pm: |
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A 300i ? Get one cheap for a Krell. Drop the gavel on a Hafler! |
   
Silver Member Username: Soundgame
Toronto,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 887 Registered: Jun-08
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| Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 10:51 pm: |
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Looks like we've spend more time than him on this thread. He laid one and ran...where is Julie...come into the light. |
   
Gold Member Username: Touche6784
USA
Post Number: 1339 Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 11:29 am: |
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George, that seems to be this guys pattern. He asks the same stupid question then vanishes. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 12988 Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 11:37 am: |
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Huh! At least I ask stupid questions and stick around for the results... |
   
Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 13764 Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 01:24 pm: |
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. I suspect he asks the same question on several forums and then picks the one with the answers he prefers to hear. . |
   
Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 12991 Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 02:21 pm: |
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Genius!! Always right that way! |
   
Bronze Member Username: Jodavis
Toronto,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 18 Registered: Apr-09
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| Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 11:01 pm: |
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hey guys. I got my answer. Nuck said I can borrow his Krell. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 12999 Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 24, 2009 - 11:05 pm: |
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I am out of amps, just Mac's left. |
   
Gold Member Username: Touche6784
USA
Post Number: 1340 Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 12:26 am: |
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Haha, say what? |
   
Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 13003 Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 09:14 am: |
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Sold spare amps, a nice vintage Mac pair for sale. 2505 and MX112 tuner/pre. |
   
Silver Member Username: James_the_god
Lancaster,
Lancashire
England
Post Number: 784 Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Saturday, July 25, 2009 - 09:14 am: |
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I'll vouch for Rotel albeit from the 70s. And dirty as in literally dirty! (till I cleaned it). |
   
Bronze Member Username: Ezntn
TN
Post Number: 20 Registered: Apr-09
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| Posted on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 07:58 pm: |
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I do like my Rotel, for most any and every thing that plays thru it. As for Carver, I gave my old 2000 receiver to Son-in-law several years back when we upgraded to the Rotel. He's never hooked it up. Insult to injury, they robbed knobs off it a few years ago to for a robot costume !!! The pain .. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 10348 Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 08:24 pm: |
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Ouch! |
   
Silver Member Username: Soundgame
Toronto,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 892 Registered: Jun-08
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| Posted on Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 09:28 pm: |
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Double out to that Bryan. That's a new "looking a gift horse in the knob". |
   
Silver Member Username: James_the_god
Lancaster,
Lancashire
England
Post Number: 788 Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Monday, July 27, 2009 - 05:17 am: |
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Bryan, I couldnt help but LOL!!! |