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Thread: WHICH RECEIVER IS BETTER |
    
New member Username: Red_warrior
Wauseon,
OH
United States
Post Number: 1
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 04:35 pm: |
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I am looking for a Receiver that can be hooked up to my HD TV and HD DVD player also I am looking at getting a 5Disk CD Changer, I am not sure which brand is the best and which model goes with the HD?
I am loking at Yamaha, Marantz and Denon if you could gave me the Pro's and Con's on these three I would be thankful. |
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New member Username: Red_warrior
Wauseon,
OH
United States
Post Number: 2
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 04:38 pm: |
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I should of ask about the ONKYO Receiver also. |
Diamond Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 12421
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 08:48 pm: |
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Buy the Harman Kardon. |
Platinum Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1324
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2008 - 04:33 pm: |
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LOL!!! |
Gold Member Username: Frank_abela
Berkshire
UK
Post Number: 2832
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Monday, April 07, 2008 - 11:28 am: |
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John,
Multi-disc changers are notoriously unreliable. They really have a penchant for self-destruction. If you're looking for the ability to play many discs at once, you'd probably be better off by loading a hard disc, preferrably mirrored onto another drive and streaming the music to your AV receiver via something like Apple's Airport Express, a SqueezeBox or a Sonos system (most expensive but nicest to use). In this way you can load up all your discs at your leisure and benefit (eventually) by having all your music available with any playlist you care to mention. Provided you backup the stored music, you won't need to worry about your hard disc dying on you. Given you can have 1TB of storage for $300, which equates to about 1500 albums at full lossless quality, this has to be the ultimate multi-changing solution...
Regards,
Frank. |
Gold Member Username: Gavdawg
Albany,
New York
Post Number: 1119
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 05:51 pm: |
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now I thought this was about receivers, not CD changers according to the topic (insert sarcasm) |
Bronze Member Username: Red_warrior
Wauseon,
OH
United States
Post Number: 11
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 06:20 pm: |
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Yes it was about Receiver and again I ask which one is the best I did find a Yahama RX-V861 for $471.00 Brand New? |
Gold Member Username: Frank_abela
Berkshire
UK
Post Number: 2866
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 08:23 am: |
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Gavin, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit...
This is where the poster told us about what he wanted to do so this makes the most sense in terms of responding if you think he may be better off with an alternative solution.
That said, I didn't respond to the original question, so I will do so now:
John,
There are a very few brands of AV receiver which can cope with the full audio and video capabilities of HD-DVD and Blu-ray. I should warn you that as of February 17th when Toshiba announced that they will cease making HD-DVD players, the HD-DVD format is effectively dead. There will be players and discs around for some time, but - as in the case of Betamax - they will dwindle over time.
Anyway, the high res audio capabilities of both Blu-ray and HD-DVD are in the form of Uncompressed PCM, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio. AV receivers that can decode these streams are available from Onkyo, Denon, Yamaha and Pioneer. There are possibly some others!
What you need to look for when trying to decide on a product is the Dolby TrueHD logo and the DTS-HD Master Audio logo. For your information, late last year, Onkyo stole the march on the world by introducing their new range in late September and offering Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio on every product in their range from the $400 TX-SR605. No other manufacturer has been able to offer these codecs at that price level so far as far as I know.
Needless to say Onkyo were caught napping at their own success. They knew they'd be successful, but never imagined the huge demand for their products which blasted them to the number one spot overnight - and added to significant lead times. Onkyo have ramped up and things have settled a bit now so delivery times are back to normal.
I hope this is a fuller, more acceptable answer to the earlier one I gave in this thread.
Regards,
Frank. |
Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1370
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Monday, April 14, 2008 - 10:43 am: |
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Frank is right, the Onkyo stuff right now is selling like hot cakes. I talk to a dealer of Onkyo near my home town from time to time and he was saying that he can't keep them in stock long enough. |
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Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 10060
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2008 - 08:51 pm: |
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But how is the audio quality, when not enhanced by the dv player?
Are they up to stereo standards? |
Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1372
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 08:30 am: |
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The Onkyo stuff is pretty decent at Stereo indeed. I wouldn't quit put it up with Arcam,B&k,NAD,Rotel AVR's for two channel material as those 4 companies build their AVR's for two channel first, surround sound second. The Onkyo is built with a "surround sound first" philosophy but overall is a great sounding AVR. A rounded contender and a much better sounding AVR in two channel than the likes of Denon,Yamaha,Marantz,Pioneer and H/K. And comes with all the feature sets. Definitely the hottest AVR on the market at this time. |
Gold Member Username: Frank_abela
Berkshire
UK
Post Number: 2880
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 10:11 am: |
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Actually, the Onkyo is pretty darn good. I haven't done the direct comparison between an 875 and an AVR280 but it wouldn't be that far off. When you consider the extra goodies you get with the Onkyo, that's a powerful pitch.
Sure, it's probably not as good as the Arcam, but not a million miles off. Yes, I'm impressed.
Question is, when is Arcam going to come out with something? I've heard nothing on the grapevine but expect they'll do something by late this year, maybe early next year. It's a long time to wait.
Regards,
Frank. |
Silver Member Username: Dmitchell
Ottawa,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 848
Registered: Feb-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 11:42 am: |
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I've been hearing a lot about the new Onkyo receivers. What makes them so good? |
Gold Member Username: Frank_abela
Berkshire
UK
Post Number: 2889
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 12:16 pm: |
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Not sure David. I guess Onkyo decided to make a real play for the receiver market. The results are deadly. Denon, Yamaha and Pioneer are all struggling to get any market share since Onkyo popped up with the current crop.
In fact I happen to know that one of the big three had an engineer look inside a TX-SR605 in particular due to its low price and after analysing the parts cost they cannot understand how Onkyo can possibly be making money from it. |
Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1373
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2008 - 06:14 pm: |
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Just Hi Fi here in my home town just brought in Onkyo Integra line. They say they are selling like hot cakes. They now carry, Onkyo Integra,NAD,Rotel and Arcam AVR's, and have recently dropped the H/K lineup. |
Gold Member Username: Frank_abela
Berkshire
UK
Post Number: 2892
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 06:54 am: |
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The thing is that the Onkyo sales pitch is so strong, particularly at the lower end, that it's difficult for the other products to get a look in. |
Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1382
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 09:47 am: |
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This is true. First looked at, first sold. |
Gold Member Username: Frank_abela
Berkshire
UK
Post Number: 2895
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 09:50 am: |
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Actually, that's fairly uncommon, at least it's fairly uncommon in our shop. But the case of the Onkyo sways buyers an awfully long way... |
Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1383
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 10:18 am: |
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Yeah for sure. Thats what I sort of meant, when people first look at the Onkyo, with those feature's and that good of sound, there isn't even a need to look any further. An instant seller, and instant hit. But even if the customer were to look elsewhere, it would still be hard not to come back to the Onkyo. Unless all they cared about was pure sound quality and were willing to spend 3 times as much as the onkyo.lol. But not too many people shopping for AVR's are doing that anymore. |
New member Username: Bpryan422
Post Number: 4
Registered: Jun-08
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 02:11 pm: |
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So are you saying that Onkyo (505 Brand) is better than a Yamaha (550W) receiver if you have a 5 speaker set (Atlantic Technology Speakers) with a KLH Sub hooked up to an HD Flat Screen TV??? |
Gold Member Username: Frank_abela
Berkshire
UK
Post Number: 2991
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Friday, June 06, 2008 - 05:32 am: |
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Ryan, go to your own thread and see what I said. In my view you're too far down the pecking order for your speakers. |
