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Thread: Amplifier Power |
    
Gold Member Username: Arande2
Rattle your ...
Missouri
Post Number: 2591
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 01:54 am: |
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I was at school the other day and my friend was talking about how awesome his new stereo was and how powerful it was. I asked him what model it was and just looked it up.
Amplifier Total Peak Power : 1000 watts
Low: 200 watts/channel (1khz, 1 ohm, 30% THD)
High: 200 watts/channel (10khz, 1 ohm, 30% THD)
Subwoofer: 200 watts (100hz, 1 ohm, 30% THD)
Frequency Response 30hz-24khz (-23dB)
Speakers: 5" Woofer, 2" Tweeter, Piezo Supertweeter
Input Power 10w
Subwoofer 6" Woofer Input Power 50w
These ratings don't even make sense! It's a good thing he bought it at a garage sale for like $10, if it's even worth that.
E-Gads, my receiver is less powerful than his stereo.  |
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Silver Member Username: Shawnharman
Post Number: 116
Registered: Dec-05
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| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 02:05 am: |
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andre... he overpaid! that sounds like one of those home theater in a box junk. and your receiver isnt anywhere near less powerfull than his, I can tell you that you have nothing to worry about my man. have fun with what you got cause you got a quality unit. |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
Rattle your ...
Missouri
Post Number: 2592
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 02:28 am: |
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No can't you see the pure AWESOMENESS of his HTiB  |
Silver Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 446
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 09:18 am: |
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Someone couldn't pay me 10 dollars to take a HTiB. |
Silver Member Username: Shawnharman
Post Number: 118
Registered: Dec-05
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| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 12:45 pm: |
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I have heard some damn good HTiB's. played one against a H/K, NAD, rotel, no comparison! the HTiB won in everyway, oh did I mention It was a sony! lol |
Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 11349
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 01:49 pm: |
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Andre - It's not nice to make fun of what someone else owns. Invite him over to hear a good system and be humble. If he still believes his is better because it's more "powerful", that's his loss. You can only lead someone in the right direction, you can't make them think. |
Silver Member Username: Eramsey
South carolina
United States
Post Number: 559
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 02:18 pm: |
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Wow Andre did you really mean 30% distortion which would be unbearable, your average receiver into 8 Ohms would be about .05-.5%
I have heard some damn good HTiB's. played one against a H/K, NAD, rotel, no comparison! the HTiB won in everyway, oh did I mention It was a sony! lol
Perhaps it's time to re-evaluate your perception of good audio. Although not as good as higher-end audio, An HK, NAD or Rotel receiver with a decent speaker setup will blow the snot out of any HTIB,(especially Sony) system in terms of sound and build quality. Take a look at the units power consumption numbers,not power output Andre and report back, the figures above are meaningless. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 8739
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 02:19 pm: |
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Oh sure, just throw in polite reason on the kid, JV.
Andre, I thought your Sunday School teaher learned you better.
The Nuns, the nuns |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
Rattle your ...
Missouri
Post Number: 2594
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 06:59 pm: |
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Wow I hate it when no one understands me lol
I guess I can't tell you what happened at school one day without getting bashed about making fun of someone when I wasn't. 
I guess I should at least try and tell you what I was trying to say.
1. He was bragging about the awesomeness of his stereo.
2. I looked it up.
3. The specs are horrible.
4. I do not intend to say anything about it.
5. I normally do not say much at school. I may average 20 words a day after marching band practice.
Note: Why are people trying to tell me to re-evaluate my perception when I already know all this stuff and I'm just joking around a little. You know, power consumption isn't the only thing to look at. You have to know efficiency and amp type along with many other things (specifically with the innards of the amp along with sources and every other little detail).
Thanks for reading. No, I'm not trying to make fun of anyone. I now know to stay away from the amp section! Thanks.. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 8754
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 07:26 pm: |
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Don't get all huffy Andre, just posting in response to the words that you put on my screen.
If you shy away we will be denied the chance to bring up a young engineer just the way we need you to be.
Relax, man.
We need you to head a team that makes the next best amp. |
Silver Member Username: Eramsey
South carolina
United States
Post Number: 561
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 07:41 pm: |
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No Andre I wasn't telling you to re-evaluate your perception, I was talking about shawnboy who seems to have had a Jekkyl and Hyde episode where in his first post he bashes HTIB systems then in his next post he says that there performance is better than the best recievers (HK, NAD, Rotel) which even used with somewhat crappy speakers are still realms beyond a HTIB system. Just relax no one is making fun of you. 30% distortion would be absolutely awful,unlistenable really. Most HTIB systems I have seen are around 10% which is still 10X greater than even an entry model rec. which is about 1% or less. The power consumption figure is not a tell all about a piece of gears wattage output,true, but from what I know and have discussed with others in the electrical,electronic engineering field it is reasonable indication of the total power output(W) that an amp can produce and then figure on subtracting roughly 40-50% from this figure. And yes of course, it does not indicate how an amp will perform when connected to a speaker. The Pioneer Elite line of recievers have several upgrades over their regular lines,specifically in terms of amplifier build quality. |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
Rattle your ...
Missouri
Post Number: 2596
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 09:02 pm: |
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Yes, you're right. I responded a bit harshly, although not THAT badly. The fact that I plan to be an engineer in audio doesn't mean I'm going to design something next-gen.
Eric, I think Shawn is just joking around. |
Silver Member Username: Shawnharman
Post Number: 119
Registered: Dec-05
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| Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 05:40 pm: |
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hey eric andre is right I was just kidding man! sarcasm is our friend, I own a H/K system and think it rocks, you gotta know when someone is being sarcastic and when they are not. |
Silver Member Username: Eramsey
South carolina
United States
Post Number: 562
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 01:03 am: |
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OK shawnboy just checking. |
Silver Member Username: Sun_king
UK
Post Number: 431
Registered: Mar-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 10:57 pm: |
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Frequency Response 30hz-24khz (-23dB) - Stunning!  |
Silver Member Username: Eramsey
South carolina
United States
Post Number: 563
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 02:23 am: |
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LOL A.V that would mean that nearly the entire audio bandwith of the amplifiers output would be unhearable(-23dB)!!!! |
Gold Member Username: Frank_abela
Berkshire
UK
Post Number: 2382
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Monday, October 01, 2007 - 11:08 am: |
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HTiB's that would make most people's day:
http://www.arcam.co.uk/prod_solo_movie_intro.cfm
http://www.naim-audio.com/products/n-vi.html
http://www.meridian-audio.com/p_g91.htm
And if you haven't heard this thing below, try to find a dealer somewhere - it's awesome, better than many a HiFi system I've played with in the past, fills large rooms easily and even provides a measure of surround sound on DVD:
http://www.meridian-audio.com/p_f80_frame.htm
Regards,
Frank. |
Silver Member Username: Mike3
Wylie,
Tx
USA
Post Number: 750
Registered: May-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 12:22 am: |
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Nice post Frank, if I ever decide to care about HT Meridian will be in my sights. |
Gold Member Username: Frank_abela
Berkshire
UK
Post Number: 2392
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 01:56 pm: |
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Mike,
Actually, the little Meridian F80 is damn good at music. That's the surprising thing. It has this huge scale and fills large rooms easily with only 80w of power and a built-in 2.1 system. It's truly remarkable. Traditionally I haven't been a big fan of Meridian's musical presentation, but I admit that this little beast has me wondering about their latest stuff...
Regards,
Frank. |
