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Silver Member Username: Dmitchell
Ottawa,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 823
Registered: Feb-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 05:32 pm: |
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The latest setup with the new Brystons (and the crappy Pioneer).
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Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 10029
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 05:35 pm: |
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Good pic, and thanks David.
Rush will roll tonight... |
Silver Member Username: Dmitchell
Ottawa,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 824
Registered: Feb-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 05:37 pm: |
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...and the scotch will pour? |
Gold Member Username: My_rantz
Australia
Post Number: 1894
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 06:07 pm: |
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Some nice pics and systems guys. There's quite a diverse collection of kits appearing on this thread. God save the music - well it sure seems we're trying. |
Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 10032
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 06:33 pm: |
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Dave, I be up at 5 tomorrow, the redhead will likely wake me at 1 after nightshift, and I am headed to Atlanta tomorrow am...
So yeah, maybe just one...
with the Rush.Pemanent waves master disc
With a twist of throttle on the box again. |
Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1343
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 06:35 pm: |
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lol thats for sure M.R.
David, sweet layout, and glad to see you got a nice looking stand. Good stuff.
Nuck- Back at it, right on. Cant wait to see those big Classe amps again. |
Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 10035
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 07:09 pm: |
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Thanks, Nick.
The pics are in progress..just like Mike's fish dinner, LOL!
It kinda looks like I had envisioned my X's lawyer.. |
Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1346
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 07:16 pm: |
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LOL mmm Fish.
One big difference from our Rigs and X's, Nuck. We like what we are hearing from our Rigs. X's?? ErrRRRr not so much. lol The uglier the setup, the better it usually sounds. Besides, I don't care where you stick those Classe's, they'll make sweet music anywhere you put them |
Gold Member Username: Stu_pitt
Irvington,
New York
USA
Post Number: 2618
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 08:05 pm: |
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David,
Great stuff. There's no shame in the Pioneer game. Yeah, it may not be the very best solution out there. But right now in your room, I'm pretty sure your system is singing. There's always 'better' out there. Enjoy what you've got until you can comfortably do better. Its a journey, not a destination. |
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Silver Member Username: Dmitchell
Ottawa,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 826
Registered: Feb-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 08:11 pm: |
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Thanks Stu,
I'm actually pretty happy with my setup right now. I realize the Pioneer isn't the greatest source, but for listening to music it's ok, and for watching movies it's actually great.
I agree with the journey part.
The next thing is to ditch el cheapo Toshiba SD player and get myself a half decent blu-ray. |
Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1348
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 09:15 pm: |
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"Great stuff. There's no shame in the Pioneer game. Yeah, it may not be the very best solution out there. But right now in your room, I'm pretty sure your system is singing. There's always 'better' out there. Enjoy what you've got until you can comfortably do better. Its a journey, not a destination."
So True. Well said Stu my man.
"The next thing is to ditch el cheapo Toshiba SD player and get myself a half decent blu-ray"
By far the best investment for movie enjoyment I have made to date. The difference will blow you away David. Not only for video quality, but audio quality as well. Do your homework before buying one though. Have fun with it. Cheers. |
Silver Member Username: Dmitchell
Ottawa,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 827
Registered: Feb-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 09:18 pm: |
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I actually bought a Sharp BD player back before Christmas, but I returned it. Was "problematic", to be kind. |
Gold Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 6659
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 09:26 pm: |
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Very cool pics Bvan and David...I'd have been fooled with the Nuck/Fish pic if only there were a beer belly there...lol!
Love that pic of the Bryston Stu...I just love the look of that amp. |
Silver Member Username: Bvan
Post Number: 300
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 09:53 pm: |
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Christopher
Thats a tough one. One of the more apparent things about the sound, if you were coming from conventional box speakers, would be the bass. Dipole bass is to my ear a lot cleaner and more realistic sounding. The other would be these speakers spacial presentation. To use an analogy, you know those 3D prints where you stare at them for a few minutes an all of a sudden it becomes 3D and then you can relax and look around in the 3D space, well its sort of like that with these speaker, probably do to their point source nature as much as their dipole nature. But the with a rear wave and with speakers well out into the room they also have the ability to image very deep.
I've come to these coaxials after a few proper single driver open baffles as well as pseudo full range box speakers (Zu) and find the coaxial arrangement to be the best compromise i.e I'd take a very high quality crossover to the limited bandwidth of a full range driver.
These particular Hawthorne drivers, the Sterling version of the Silver Iris arent cheap but they are exceptional. Apart from making music that sounds more like music than anything else I have ever heard they also tick all the hifi boxes like detail, transparency etc. And their scale and pure effortlessness on large scale dynamic music is something to behold.
Dont like to sound like a proselytizer but they get me really exited. I've just finished a few month stint working in a fairly decent hifi store and not even the Monitor Audio Platinums or Tannoy coaxials left me with a seconds doubt as to what I would want to live with. Would hope more people could hear these or similar designs. If you come upon the Jamo 909 have a listen, then imagine those but with better imaging and you'll come close.
cheers
b |
Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1349
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 10:29 pm: |
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"I actually bought a Sharp BD player back before Christmas, but I returned it. Was "problematic", to be kind"
Oh yeah the first gen Sharp had problems up the ying yang, but the new one is much improved. Look for the new Sony's, and probably still the best overall for pic and sound, the Pioneer Elite. |
Gold Member Username: Stu_pitt
Irvington,
New York
USA
Post Number: 2619
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 10:52 pm: |
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"Dont like to sound like a proselytizer but they get me really exited."
And that's what is all about, b. If it doesn't excite or move you, what's the point? |
Gold Member Username: My_rantz
Australia
Post Number: 1896
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2008 - 11:59 pm: |
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Getting off topic here but one point:
Look for the new Sony's, and probably still the best overall for pic and sound, the Pioneer Elite.
If your receiver/processor doesn't have the hi-rez codecs (Doldy True HD, DTS HD & DTS HD Master) then I'd go for a player that has these decoders onboard and not just the streaming ability. The Panasonic BD10a was the only one available here that bhad these (except DTS HD Master) when I purchased ours.
Otherwise, if you want the great sound, a new receiver/processor will be required also - $$$$$$$$$$ |
Gold Member Username: John_s
Columbus,
Ohio
US
Post Number: 2226
Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:37 am: |
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Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1353
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 10:02 am: |
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"If your receiver/processor doesn't have the hi-rez codecs (Doldy True HD, DTS HD & DTS HD Master) then I'd go for a player that has these decoders onboard and not just the streaming ability. The Panasonic BD10a was the only one available here that bhad these (except DTS HD Master) when I purchased ours."
The new Sony(more expensive one) and the new Pioneer Elite blu-ray players do all that and might even wash the dishes from time to time. lol. |
Gold Member Username: John_s
Columbus,
Ohio
US
Post Number: 2227
Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 10:22 am: |
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"The new Sony(more expensive one) and the new Pioneer Elite blu-ray players do all that and might even wash the dishes from time to time. lol."
In addition, there will be the Panasonic PDMP-BD50, which may be available before the Sony 550 or the Elite model. The dishes I can take care of, but it would be nice if these new players didn't need some complicated firmware upgrade to work properly.
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Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1354
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 12:18 pm: |
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LOL I hear ya on that one John. My BDP-S1 took not one...not two...but THREE firmware upgrades before it handled the codecs. lol Im a technical guy, so I figured it out. But I even had to make a bootable cd that the player would detect and send it to my dealer, as they couldn't even figure it out. Lets hope no more firmware upgrades are needed for any players.lol Cheers. |
Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 10039
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 04:49 pm: |
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Seems a PITA to me.... |
Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1356
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 06:01 pm: |
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yeah, but works perfectly now. My Player was the first Sony Blu Ray player that retailed for 1499.99 when it came out. It basically played blu-ray movies and that was it.lol. When I bought it the second gen firmware was out, and then two weeks later the third and final firmware came out. Took me about 10 minutes to flash it and its been a perfect machine since. And does all the HD audio crap itself, which is perfect since my receiver doesn't. |
Gold Member Username: My_rantz
Australia
Post Number: 1899
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 06:03 pm: |
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Fair enough Nick. It seems in this country we are always last to get the new models of anything. Be nice if they did wash the dishes though! |
Gold Member Username: Nickelbut10
Post Number: 1357
Registered: Jun-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 07:39 pm: |
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lol sure would be. My new place comes with a dish washer. Loading it would still be nice. |
Gold Member Username: Petergalbraith
Canada
Post Number: 2156
Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 07:47 pm: |
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Nice pics guys. I'll post some too after I get my basement finished (in about a year!). Pictures with old (and soon to be disposed-of) stained carpets and unplastered sheet-rock are not very appealing. |
Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 10040
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 07:56 pm: |
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Hiya Peter! Where have you been? |
Gold Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 6661
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:07 pm: |
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Mista G whaddup! |
Silver Member Username: Scorpio1
PA
USA
Post Number: 108
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:31 pm: |
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Dave Mitchell
Great looking setup. Where did you get your racks from? They look alot like IKEA bedside tables.
Do you find the wood provides better sound than metal or glass platforms? |
Silver Member Username: Dmitchell
Ottawa,
Ontario
Canada
Post Number: 831
Registered: Feb-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:42 pm: |
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They're actually cheap stackable, modular shelving units from Canadian Tire!
I think they cost me maybe $40 each (I have 2 stacked).
The only problem I've found is that there is a thin fibre-board back to it that you nail in with small tacks. One of my subs is right beside the unit, which caused the fibre-board to oscillate like crazy. So I ripped the back off and used some metal strapping in an "X" instead (the fibre-board helped add rigidity to the shelf). Problem solved. |
Silver Member Username: Scorpio1
PA
USA
Post Number: 109
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 09:47 pm: |
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Cool. The IKEA stands are about $30 each. Small investment if it can improve the sound a bit. Thanks. |
Gold Member Username: Stu_pitt
Irvington,
New York
USA
Post Number: 2622
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2008 - 11:16 pm: |
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Ed,
The Naim guys love the Ikea Corras and Lack stuff for component racks. They're also dirt cheap. My Naim dealer recommends the Ikea stuff if money is tight, and the Naim Fraim for people who's budget can swing it. They say the Ikea stuff outperforms just about anything else, regardless of price. |
Silver Member Username: Scorpio1
PA
USA
Post Number: 110
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 07:35 am: |
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I may have to pick one up this weekend. Would it be matter if I used 3 or 4 spikes on the bottom? |
Silver Member Username: Luxendel
Gondelsheim,
Baden-Württe...
Germany
Post Number: 172
Registered: Oct-07
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| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 07:47 am: |
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"The Naim guys love the Ikea Corras and Lack stuff for component racks. They're also dirt cheap. My Naim dealer recommends the Ikea stuff if money is tight, and the Naim Fraim for people who's budget can swing it. They say the Ikea stuff outperforms just about anything else, regardless of price."
I got the sequel of the famous Corras...
http://www.ikea.com/de/de/catalog/products/90120545
I am very impressed. For 19€ very very good value for money...
I put 3 spikes on the bottom.
2 front corners, 1 back center.
VERY stable!!!! |
Silver Member Username: Bvan
Post Number: 301
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 08:08 am: |
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http://users.adelphia.net/~dbcraw/rack/index.html
i built a version of this flexirack. cheap and supposed to sound good. very easy to customize the number and heights of shelves. Onl change I made was to anglegrind the bottom of the steel rods into spikes, and spray the bottom sides of each 1" mdf shelf with automotive vibration dampening stuff. |
Silver Member Username: Scorpio1
PA
USA
Post Number: 111
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| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 08:29 am: |
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"Nice pics guys. I'll post some too after I get my basement finished (in about a year!). Pictures with old (and soon to be disposed-of) stained carpets and unplastered sheet-rock are not very appealing."
Hey P Galbraith, make sure you take some of the bad anyway. It will make a great before/after album once your basement is all done up. |
Platinum Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 10045
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2008 - 05:21 pm: |
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Geez, and I am gonna buy a house just like that!
Sigh... |
Gold Member Username: Petergalbraith
Canada
Post Number: 2157
Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 08:32 pm: |
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Hi Nuck, Art, Ed, others,
Good point Ed. When I get on the verge of starting, I'll take some before shots. Actually, I have kinda started. I'm wiring up some lights and temporarily securing them to the rafters. Then a few walls and doors go up, then plastering, then paint, then suspended ceiling, then flooring, then moldings. It's going to be a long process.
I see lots of new people on the forum.
That's a good sign. |
Gold Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 6694
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| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 09:03 pm: |
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Then there's still us old timers...but hey we're in it for the long haul... |
Gold Member Username: Petergalbraith
Canada
Post Number: 2158
Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 09:07 pm: |
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And Nuck with 10000+ posts! I remember when he was a newbie!
All the way up to 17C today. Snow is melting like crazy, finally. |
Silver Member Username: Scorpio1
PA
USA
Post Number: 113
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 09:30 pm: |
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P, are you using your existing equipment or are you revamping and going with new stuff in the renovated area?
Maybe I can learn enough around here to make it to 1000 meaningful posts..... |
Gold Member Username: Petergalbraith
Canada
Post Number: 2159
Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 09:50 pm: |
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Ed,
Mixed bag. It'll be an HT room but also pulls stereo duty. I'll be upgrading the 52-inch (non-HD) RPTV to about the same diameter LCD. That means HDMI, and an upgrade to an HDMI-capable receiver, and then blue-ray as soon as the local video rental place has some in stock that we can rent. A while later, I will likely add a screen and projector for movie-viewing.
But I'm keeping my speakers. I just want to swap some of their roles (moving a surround speaker to center duty), but that means some clever design to hold the bulky 100-lbs future center channel up above the future TV.
But before all that, there's a support beam in the middle of the room that has to be moved! And I have no idea how much that is going to cost. I'm hoping that it won't be prohibitive.
Lots of stuff to think about... |
Silver Member Username: Scorpio1
PA
USA
Post Number: 114
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 11:51 am: |
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P. G.
Can't wait to see how things turn out for you. I'm always looking for ideas since I will (hopefully) buying a new house next year.
Maye I will get a dedicated HT/listening room afterall. |
Gold Member Username: Petergalbraith
Canada
Post Number: 2164
Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 09:19 pm: |
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A dedicated listening room is great if you have speakers that must be placed away from walls, well into the room (not my case, but still). It keeps the wife happy.
A dedicated HT room is great for the whole family. |
Bronze Member Username: Pcstockton
Post Number: 16
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 01:35 pm: |
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Ive never felt the need for an "audiophile" home theater system. And until now I have always integrated my 2 channel and HT systems. I am almost done setting up my new dedicated Naim system for 2 channel. So the below will be my HT.
Here is my budget 2/5.1 Channel system. All soon to change when my new Naim speakers arrive. Pictures upcoming.
But as it stands now...
Vizio LCD HDTV
Motorola HD-DVR Cable Box
Adcom GFA 5300 Amplifier(for Fronts)
Yamaha HTR 5960 Receiver
Cheap Phillips DVD Player
Energy Pro Series 4.5 (Fronts)
Energy C-C100 (Center)
Energy C-50 (Surrounds)
Energy S8.3 (Subwoofer)
Dell Tower for PC Audio (FLAC)
to TOSlink to Yamaha.
Harmony 720 Remote
Salamander Archetype rack.
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Gold Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 6745
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 03:52 pm: |
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Very nice Patrick... |
Bronze Member Username: Pcstockton
Post Number: 17
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 06:56 pm: |
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Thanks Art.
If you are ever in Bend....... I have a spare bedroom and will have some All Naim Gear for you to hear!
Im not exactly sure how all of this will play out when my new speakers arrive.
Things are definitely going to change though.
I think I will need to use that rack for my Naim boxes. Now, 2 sets of fronts (both floorstanders). But then, what to do with the yammy and center speaker?
I guess there are bigger problems.
I am trying to keep things live-in girl-friend compliant. So taking up 2 walls might not be an option.
We'll see. More pics of new set-ups to come in one week! |
Silver Member Username: Scorpio1
PA
USA
Post Number: 117
Registered: Nov-07
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 07:38 pm: |
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Sweet setup Patrick. Welcome to the Naim family. Which pieces are you adding for your 2 ch setup?
Enjoy your new sounds.
Ed |
Bronze Member Username: Pcstockton
Post Number: 18
Registered: Apr-08
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 07:46 pm: |
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Thanks for the welcome!!!
I have a 102/180.
Waiting on some s/h Arivas and NACA to arrive UPS. Should be here next week.
Beresford DAC, which I am having some problems with right now. It is making some serious noise through the Naim gear now.
http://forums.naim-audio.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/48019385/m/6302989317/p/2
go to the bottom for my problem.... |
Gold Member Username: Artk
Albany,
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