Archive through April 15, 2007

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1796
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Thursday, March 15, 2007 - 11:18 pm:

Art: living in hopes - I tend to get some 'hash" with my current digital interconnect,and I thought it was just my player - but now I wonder. . .

And Jan - I think I just must have missed the SS in your link? Will have to look again.

Jerry says he will NOT be bringing his new Saturn over to test against the Cambridge! Oh, really????
(grin) But I may take the DVD87 over there - someday. . . .

His sytem is so awesome I can't stand it. . .

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Username: My_rantz

Australia

Post Number: 1266
Registered: Nov-05

Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 08:06 am:

"But I may take the DVD87 over there - someday. . . ."

You'll be soorrry, Larry!

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1797
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 09:28 am:

MR - well, you're probably right. All sorts of things could happen. Jon might be there, and hold me captive until I buy an Apollo - Jerry may not be able to tell the difference between the Cambridge and the Saturn, and get angry - and Mer. . . .no, I ain' lettin' dat gal NEAR Jerry's rig! Can you imagine the wallet-effects? (grin)

We DO plan a "cable shootout," though - probably this weekend - with Kimber, Cobalt, Blue Jeans and Silver Serpents on HIS rig. Jerry probably can't hear any difference, and I'm not sure about me - but we'll give it a go, anyway. . .jest fer fun.

E-MAIL FROM CAMBRIDGE THIS A.M. - they say they have no scientific reason for it, but the 2-ch. layer on SACDs often sounds better than the 5.1 layer - and overall better than downmixing to regular 2-ch. output. I'd asked about downmixing, but now am so satisfied with what I hear on the surround setting with 2-ch layer set as default that I shall not try to change it.

I asked Mer her opinion of music in 2-ch - and she just shrugged. Guess it makes no difference to her at all - but then I remember that with my GUTTED surrounds - as MR reminds me - ain' no chance of getting accurate music outta dem. . .hmm. . .

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1801
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Friday, March 16, 2007 - 06:41 pm:

All: Please see my new post in Cables/Accessories.

The new Silver Serpents are revelatory! As in, Oh, WOW!

Respectfully. . .LarryR

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1804
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 10:34 am:

After a VERY late night of listening, the Silver Serpents give both incredible sound - and not-so-good sound.

The digital audio cable is revelatory - so much better than the Blue Jeans I can't believe the clarity.

The analog interconnects improve the SACD sound by quite a bit - BUT - they make red book CDs sound even thinner than the Cobalts and Blue Jeans. The SSs seem to strip away the lower frequencies.

Can't explain that at all - see the Cables SS thread for updates - but at this point it's mixed results.

Respectfully. . .LarryR

Nuck

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Username: Nuck

Post Number: 6411
Registered: Dec-04

Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 10:48 am:

Lar, it seems that the blush has come offa the rose.

Yet another tradeoff?
It happens.
Try some Rock n Roll, man.

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1805
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 11:09 am:

Nuck: I tried some once.

Gave me a headache. . .(grin)

Went to Scotch instead.

John A.

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Username: John_a

London
U.K.

Post Number: 4646
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 11:01 pm:

Just checking in and catching up, friends.

I am in New Zealand for a few weeks. With Mrs A. Wonderful. Some work, some travel. What a fabulous country.

Not so much time for audio and message boards these days. Will be back, though.

Cheers, all.

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1810
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 10:21 am:

John A - was concerned about your possible demise! (grin)
Mer and I envy your NZ travels, sir! We "wish we were there," but know we can only dream.

PS - there are other things in life besides stereo!

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1816
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 03:33 pm:

I know that few of you are "into" SACD - but at SA-CD.net there is an Online petition going 'round, begging Sony and other companies to keep and expand the format. Here's a link, if you're inclined to read and sign the petition. Many thanks.

http://www.petitiononline.com/SACD/petition.html

LR

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Username: My_rantz

Australia

Post Number: 1270
Registered: Nov-05

Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 06:08 pm:

Signed it long ago Larry. But SACD seems to be alive and well - at least at present, albeit mainly in the classical genre. A collection of Genesis SACD albums has also recently been released along with DVD-Videos. Seems there's also hope for the SACD rock fraternity as well. Then, these are old remasters - again.

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1818
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 10:36 pm:

MR - thanks for the support.

Today I was a-messin' wid duh cables and sech, again, and as always, the SACDs sound so much better than the red book CDs. Sigh.

I'm thinking about trying one more cable - Signal Cables Analog II - before I just give up and live with what I have until or unless I can afford a better player someday. . .double sigh.

The 2-ch SACD setting is giving me great sound, and I do NOT miss whatever surround there was.

Tomorrow - well, I try again. . .

Respectfully. . .LarryR

Platinum Member

Username: Jan_b_vigne

Dallas, TX

Post Number: 10046
Registered: May-04

Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 11:01 pm:

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John - Did you have anything to do with this?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/new_zealand_mud_flow

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Username: My_rantz

Australia

Post Number: 1271
Registered: Nov-05

Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 11:13 pm:

Larry, just powered on the 3910 and amps. I'll soon compare redbook cd's on the Rega with 2 channel SACD and maybe 2 channel DVD-A. Will be interesting - or not. The Apollo continues to shine. We spent Sat & Sun afternoons listening to our redbook cd music sound like -well - real music. Oh, I'm not under any illusion that this system of ours can't be bettered in some other way that will make our music come more alive, but the satisfaction we have now is so high there is no desire to seek anything else except maybe a better pair of main speakers - though I think that will take too much money to make a worthwhile improvement - who knows? That's really too far off - if ever!

Off to the tweaks forum.

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Username: My_rantz

Australia

Post Number: 1273
Registered: Nov-05

Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 11:32 pm:

Re: Jan's NZ news link:

Had John known those hot sulphur springs are connected to Mt Ruapehu, I'm sure he would have kept it contained.

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1820
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 11:35 pm:

Right-oh, MR - wishing you and Mz Rantz great listening, etc. etc.

At the moment, my SACD playback is right up near the "very good" point. But the red book still lags far behind.

I still don't understand why the new Silver Serpent digital cable sounds as good as my Blue jeans analog cables do. Shouldn't be that way, if all I hear about the Cambridge DACs is correct.

I'll be swinging by Jerry's place tomorrow afternoon, just for a quick listen - and NOT taking over my Cambridge player. (would probably drop that, too!!)

I'm toying with Art's suggestion that I get some Signal Cable interconnects. I've e-mailed the company, and should hear back from them tomorrow. If the Analog II cables are as advertised, they "should" make my kit sound a bit closer to SACD. Or not. . .

Brands aside, you are quite right: I need to upgrade my CD player - but I can't afford a stand-alone CD unit - must have SACD and DVD-video as well.

So - I'll keep on keeping on. With kindest regards to your gorgeous child-bride,

LR

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Username: My_rantz

Australia

Post Number: 1275
Registered: Nov-05

Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 11:44 pm:

No, no Larry. The bride part came much later if you are referring to my NZ story. Well, maybe not much later, but later.

John A.

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Username: John_a

London
U.K.

Post Number: 4648
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 11:50 pm:

Thanks, all.

Mud flow nothing to do with us, I promise. We are in S. Island. Yesterday we saw Southern Royal Albatross and Yellow-Eyed Penguins. What a place.

Thanks for the reply on the Rega Apollo thread, M.R.! Much appreciated.

Nuck

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Username: Nuck

Post Number: 6446
Registered: Dec-04

Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 11:50 pm:

John A., JV
Couldn't stand the weather, Steven Ray Vaughn, 1975.

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1823
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 12:01 am:

MR - paths crossing - your bride belongs next to your stereo - not John's NZ story. Hmm. . .

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1824
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 12:02 am:

I can't keep anything straight anymore. Sigh.

(OK, OK - go ahead - make a joke here!)

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Username: My_rantz

Australia

Post Number: 1279
Registered: Nov-05

Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 01:24 am:

No joke Larry, my friend. Sorry for the confusion. However, now I'm a bit confused:

I have just compared 2 channel SACD on the Denon 3910 to the CD layers on the Apollo.

The Albums and tracks:

Monty Alexander's "Stir It Up" - T4 - Could You Be Loved.

Poncho Sanchez - "Out Of Sight" - T1 - One Mint Julep.

Diana Krall - "When I look in your Eyes" - T1, Let's Face the Music and Dance. T2 Devil May Care, and T5 - Popsicle Toes. I have this on both SACD and CD so I used the CD for comparison and not the CD layer.

What's confusing is that I expected better of the 2 channel SACD tracks. The redbook tracks were more musical to me on the Apollo than the SACD tracks on the 3910. I kid you not - all of them. The difference was a very, very minimal, but was there. The Apollo seems to have slightly more pace, a tad more detail and was little more controlled in the bass. Overall, it was a touch more dynamic, but not brighter or louder. That's about the best I can descibe what I heard.

My theory is that SACD requires very top notch players to bring out the best in them. I do notice that on the universal 3910, the SACD layer is a little better than that of the redbook, however, imho, the Apollo wins over both.

.................................................

"Yesterday we saw Southern Royal Albatross and Yellow-Eyed Penguins. What a place."

In the wild or the Dunedin Zoo, John?

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Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1826
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 10:40 am:

MR - what you have here is a case of single-mindedness in gear.
Do you remember the old movie: "City Slickers," where the old cowboy Curly is asked for his secret to success. He just holds up one finger. Indicating, of course, that one should adhere to a single course of action to succeed.

That's where the Apollo shines over most any multi-format player, I should think. Focus on one circuit, one capacitor, whatever. . .

Believe me, if the Apollo played both SACD and redbook CD, I might dig around in the kitty for some spare change! But it doesn't, and so I must remain in the multi-player camp. Sigh.

Then again, Mr. Rantz, I must remember that you, and Mer and apparently most of the Dawgs have more acute hearing than I seem to have. You talk of pace and detail - when I find it hard to get below the level of "screech, hum and rasp." (grin)

The SS analogs are gone - and today I await some e-mails before deciding whether to order up a set of Signal Cable analogs (or analogues). I think if I could get just a LITTLE more warmth and smoothness I might be relatively satisfied. For now, anyway. . .(snicker)

Have a calm night and a bright tomorrow

LR

Art

Gold Member

Username: Artk

Albany, Oregon
USA

Post Number: 4333
Registered: Feb-05

Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 12:56 pm:

Remember Larry that MR stated that the Apollo bettered SACD playback on his Denon with CD layer on the same discs. Meaning that the only ones that would not be usable are the SACD non Hybrid discs. I don't own any of those and I can't imagine that you have very many.

Platinum Member

Username: Jan_b_vigne

Dallas, TX

Post Number: 10048
Registered: May-04

Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 01:08 pm:

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"Yesterday we saw Southern Royal Albatross and Yellow-Eyed Penguins."

What?! No robins?

"Do you remember the old movie: "City Slickers," where the old cowboy Curly is asked for his secret to success. He just holds up one finger. Indicating, of course, that one should adhere to a single course of action to succeed."

Hmmm, I thought that meant visit your proctologist on a regular basis. He was wearing a glove, wasn't he?

.

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1827
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 01:30 pm:

Jan: (hahahahaha) well, guess he WAS wearing a glove, though leather, not rubber. (double grin)
Good one. . .

Art: I did get a bit tangled in MR's description of his audition - but in the end he says Apollo uber allis, so I guess the man's a goner, eh? (grin)

My cable research continues, and I'm settling on Belden 89259 wire for interconnects. Many companies use it, under their own brand. Signal Cables Analog II is 89259, for example.
I can get it at Blue Jeans cables for a lot less, and with premium Canare RCA connectors. So I will. . .

Sigh - the more I learn the less I know.

LR

Platinum Member

Username: Jan_b_vigne

Dallas, TX

Post Number: 10056
Registered: May-04

Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 10:13 pm:

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Head to the second hand store, Larry.

http://6moons.com/audioreviews/leben2/system_3.html

Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1829
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 10:55 pm:

Jan: I guess I just don't understand. . .

as

usual.

LR

Platinum Member

Username: Jan_b_vigne

Dallas, TX

Post Number: 10057
Registered: May-04

Posted on Monday, March 19, 2007 - 11:38 pm:

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I'm trying to help here, Larry. Try this.

http://www.feed24.com/go/33018675

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Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1832
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 12:08 am:

Jan: Thanks for the, uh, help. Not sure what I'd do with one, but heck, I need and welcome all kinds of info.

Tomorrow, the washer repair mope comes, and I have to away to Home Depot for a new bathroom faucet. Sigh. then maybe I can concentrate on sound. . . .

Maybe. . .

John A.

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Username: John_a

London
U.K.

Post Number: 4649
Registered: Dec-03

Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 12:11 am:

M.R. In the wild. Seriously! All the best.

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Username: My_rantz

Australia

Post Number: 1282
Registered: Nov-05

Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 01:11 am:

Hope you had the camera on hand John. Wonderful. Actually, it was at the Dunedin Zoo where the waste from a King Condor landed in the hood of my parka. Well, maybe it wasn't a King Condor, but the amount suggested something larger than the average bird. Great place - remember on the south island you have to ask for beacon and iggs for breakfast otherwise you mightn't be understood. Enjoy the getaway both of you.

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Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1834
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 02:33 pm:

ProGold users - if you've tried to find some recently and have failed - it's because it is now "DeoxITGold" name's been changed. I just got some. . .great stuff!

Joseph Coulson

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Username: Joe_c

Atlanta, GA
USA

Post Number: 1420
Registered: Mar-05

Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 05:27 pm:

Jan, have you tried the Playstation as a cdp?
if so, thoughts?

Platinum Member

Username: Jan_b_vigne

Dallas, TX

Post Number: 10060
Registered: May-04

Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 09:46 pm:

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Not yet, I'm looking for one to try.

Platinum Member

Username: Jan_b_vigne

Dallas, TX

Post Number: 10061
Registered: May-04

Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 09:52 pm:

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I saw a newer model today and noted the Play Station uses the spring loaded ball clamping mechanism similar to several high end CD players. This is the same style transport that was employed on the old Radio Shack portable model I used as a main system transport for a number of years and it offered sound well above its price range. It all starts with the transport. Nothing I've seen so far has been over $30 and I've got a lead on a first generation unit. We'll see if it pans out.

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Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1835
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 10:38 am:

Jan: I'm intrigued. Read your link, and although I've heard about the Playstations, I know nothing of them.

Why are they - or WERE they - such good music CD players? And wouldn't the new ones be even better?

Let us know when you find one and how it really sounds and works, please.

Platinum Member

Username: Jan_b_vigne

Dallas, TX

Post Number: 10067
Registered: May-04

Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 12:46 pm:

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What I've linked to is all I can find on the internet regarding the Play Station as an audiophile source. I've done a Yahoo search. If you'd like to try another search engine and can find more results, please fill me in on the details. From what I can gather, the first generation players utilized CD-ROM drives which were later replaced by DVD drives as new models arrived on the market. We all know the general performance of a DVD drive. Yet, CD-ROM transports on the whole are apparently where the most accurate disc reading takes place and would appear to be the reason many high end players gravitate towards something other than the ubiquitous Sony, Philips & Toshiba CD or DVD drives. The DIY'ers quite often use an external CD-ROM drive fed to an outboard DAC rather than rely on the run of the mill CD player. Most of these systems end up with minimal cost and claimed high end performance. I believe you'll find virtually all CD-ROM drives use the spring loaded clamping mechanisms.

From what I've seen on the used market around Dallas, all the trade in Sony Play Stations have the spring loaded hub clamp. The major observable and cursory difference between generations would be the output connections. Apparently only the first generation players provided RCA outputs for the audio signal, though of a quality commensurate with the intended usage. All the other players I've seen have a multi-pin plug and jack output connection with a captive lead out of extremely questionable character. This cheesy bit of cable will certainly impact audio performance and would require some surgery to convert to any other output format. The articles point to the feeling among some users that the oldest players, those with RCA outs, also have superior performance in the DAC's and therefore they are a step ahead of the other players. Whether this is truly a case of Sony learning how to make the players more cheaply in consecutive generations (anyone think that's how Sony does business?) or all this amounts to just one more of audiophilia's "I have something you don't" is anyone's guess at this point. The players I've found, all later generation units, are selling for well under $50 and I was told at The Salvation Army Store the first generation players typically leave the shop for $10. At that price as little experimentation can be afforded.

Once more into the breech ...

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Username: Jan_b_vigne

Dallas, TX

Post Number: 10068
Registered: May-04

Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 12:51 pm:

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I should also note, the players seem to be extremely unfriendly in regards to conventional amenities found on even the lowest priced consumer CD players. Whether or not a video screen would be required to access tracks and perform the most basic playback functions is something no thrift shop owner can tell me. As it stands one of the most "analog like" aspects of the Play Station as a CD drive is its start at the beginning and listen until its over nature. If you like to program CD's or skip tracks while playing, a Play Station might not be your cup 'o tea. If I find anything different, I'll let you know.

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Gold Member

Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1843
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 02:10 pm:

Thanks, Jan - it would appear, in this case, that one steps back to step forward. . .

Meanwhile - can "music cards" that you slip into a slot and play a symphony or jazz concert be far in the future?

Verne's cohort has a home-made one that he's in the process of trying to patent. But he won't tell me more than it's a flash memory device that, according to him, "sounds so much better than a CD I can't believe it." Hmm. . .

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Username: Stu_pitt

Irvington, New York
USA

Post Number: 1636
Registered: May-05

Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 02:28 pm:

I owned a Playstation in college and used it for a little while as a CD player until I bought a dedicated one. My first foray into 'HiFi' came when I bought a NAD 304 from my mentor. I used my Playstation as a CD player, and connected a pair of in the infamous "White Van Speakers." I then bought a pair of PSB bookshelves and later bought a dedicated CD player; a NAD 523 CD changer, which is still my current CD player.

My Playstation was probably one of the first generation players. I'm not 100% sure though. I got it about a year or two after it debuted.

As far as operation goes, the Playstation is easiestly controlled by an onscreen display. The OSD will show track numbers, play, pause, rewind, etc. All of the basics. I don't remember if it had track programming.

These can also be controlled by the wired controller. I can't remember which button on the controller controlled which functions, but all of the essential functions can be controlled by the wired controller. A wireless controller may be more convenient if available and cost effective.

I didn't use the dedicated RCAs on the back. The output wire the Playstation used had a USB type plug on one end and three male RCA terminated connectors on the other for audio left, right, and video. I connected the audio L and R to my 304.

At the time I figured the Playstation was a good CD player. I was under the 1's and 0's all sound the same camp. My mentor who is part of the source first camp strongly advised buying a dedicated CD player. He said to A/B them, and if their wasn't a difference, bring the CD player back.

When I compared the two, the NAD CD player blew the Playstation away. There wasn't a single thing the Playstation did that the NAD didn't do significantly better. Noise floor, imaging, timbre, etc.

Maybe my Playstation wasn't part of the first generation. If it was, maybe the sound quality is significantly better out of the RCAs on the back. If you can pick one up for a few bucks, it should be interesting to see what happens.

Funny thing is, the first time I saw the Apollo's lid opened, I immediately thought of the Playstation.

A couple of more thoughts...
The Playstation as a great CD player seems a little too much like an underground conspiracy theory to me - The superior music playing ability was hidden in the Playstation because they could sell millions of them to recover the R&D costs. This makes some sense.

After the first run, they knew they a winner on their hands and changed the design. Why? The second generation reportedly used a DVD rom, which would change the musical performance. But then again, it isn't a music first machine, so that does make sense.

But here's the downfall to the conspiracy IMO... If it was such a great CD player and outperformed $6000 players like the article states, why didn't Sony develope it into a dedicated CD player? If they weren't interested, why didn't they sell the design to someone else? Who really killed kennedy?

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Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1845
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 04:16 pm:

Stu: Good points - good questions!

Sony forever has brought out CD player after player after player. IF the unit in the Playstation was/is as good as many are claiming, surely SOMEBODY at Sony would have said: "hey, this is great! Let's put this in a metal box and sell it to the audiophiles for $4,000!

Well - they didn't, and I'm hoping that Jan's experiments bring around some first-hand facts.

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Username: Stu_pitt

Irvington, New York
USA

Post Number: 1639
Registered: May-05

Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 04:47 pm:

"...hey, this is great! Let's put this in a metal box and sell it to the audiophiles for $4,000!"

I was thinking this as well Larry. But then again, how many audiophiles take anything by Sony seriously and would fork out $4000 for a Sony product? I think it would probably be much more successful if sold under a different name like Krell, McIntosh, Esoteric, etc.

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Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1847
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 04:54 pm:

Hmmmm - you're right, Stu. But - has the Playstation "snuck out" into the real world under any brand name?

Don't suppose it's the Rega Apollo do you? Nah, but it's an idea. . .(grin)

And there are some people who have bought Sony stuff for a LOT of money - don't they have a really hi-end player out? Not sure. . .

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Username: Larry_r

Naples, FL

Post Number: 1848
Registered: Oct-04

Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 05:00 pm:

Stu: Yeah, found it -

the Sony SCD-XA9000ES - CD and SACD:

$3,000 - and worth it? Who knows?

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Username: Stu_pitt

Irvington, New York
USA

Post Number: 1640
Registered: May-05

Posted on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 - 05:06 pm:

New conspiracy theory -

The Rega Apollo and Saturn are re-badged Sony Playstation Ones. The Apollo is the Playstation One, and the Saturn is a tuned-up Playstation One. Rega doesn't want to say who 'helped' design the operating software. If they did, it would give it away. They are very similar in their top loading and transport designs.

Rega simply put them in nicer cases, added wireless remotes, and gave them digital outputs.

Going back to what I said earlier, they wouldn't be taken as seriously if the had Sony badges on them. Give them a Rega badge, and instant audiophile street cred.

Sound crazy?