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Thread: Ok sacd experts I need your help |
   
Silver Member Username: Polksavage
Post Number: 180 Registered: Jun-06
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| Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 06:04 pm: |
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I just won a DVPNC85H in a contest at work the specs say this SYSTEM 5-Disc Changer DVD-Video/CD/Video CD/SVCD CD-R/RW MP3 (CD-R/RW) JPEG (CD-R/RW), Kodak DVD+RW/+R (Video Mode) DVD+R DL DVD-RW/-R (Video Mode, VR Mode) DVD-RW/-R (VR Mode) with CPRM MP3 (DVD-RW/-R/+RW/+R) JPEG (DVD-RW/-R/+RW/+R) DVD/CD Text dts®/SACD Decoding AUDIO 24-bit/192kHz Audio DAC Dolby® Digital/dts® Digital Output 24-bit/96kHz Digital Output Linear PCM TV Virtual Surround (TVS): 5 AV Sync VC Filter (Audio Filter) is this a sacd player??? |
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Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 10167 Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 12:03 am: |
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. It wouldn't appear to be. What brand is this or should we just guess till we get it right? |
   
Gold Member Username: My_rantz
Australia
Post Number: 1319 Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 12:40 am: |
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"SACD Decoding" The answer was under your nose all along. It's a Sony. |
   
Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 10171 Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 11:53 am: |
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. If that's the case, this, http://raq4.buydonlin.com/p-DVPNC85H.html, says it is a SACD player. Gee, why couldn't polkyadayada have hit a search button? |
   
Gold Member Username: John_s
Columbus,
Ohio
US
Post Number: 1469 Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 12:12 pm: |
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Jan that site appears to be incorrect. This player does not have multi-channel analog outputs. Also the owners manual (p.8) states that it will not play the "HD layer on Super Audio CDs" |
   
Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 10173 Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 04:50 pm: |
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. "HD" layer on SACD? Didn't know there was one? I think terminology is messing with me. We are not talking "HD' as in HDCD, are we? This player won't play the "HiDef" layer of SCAD. It will only tell you another layer is there, but it won't let you hear it. Therefore, "SACD Decoding". "We decoded it, now go spend more money if you want to hear it!" Sheeeesh! . |
   
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 6649 Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 07:30 pm: |
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Who would produce and release such a misleading list of attributes, then?! Oh yeah. Nearly anyone. |
   
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 6650 Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 07:35 pm: |
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PV, WHO SOLD THE TICKET? Ask them? You bought a ticket without knowing the prize? Do you bid on a car knowing it has 4 wheels and an engine? If you did not buy a ticket and it fell into your lap, then donate it, whatever IT is. To a church group, a woman's shelter or another charity, sight unseen. Greater rewards than a non-descript piece that you probably do not need, let alone cannot name. And throw in some old cd's from friends and family. |
   
Gold Member Username: John_s
Columbus,
Ohio
US
Post Number: 1471 Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 09:41 am: |
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"HD layer on Super Audio CDs" I take that to mean it will play only the Red Book layer present on most SACDs. I don't know where PolK got the specs on this player, but they didn't come from Sony. |
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Gold Member Username: My_rantz
Australia
Post Number: 1324 Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 02:51 pm: |
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John S - click on specifations on this page and it states SACD decoding. I can't see any SACD badge on the player and yes, there is not 5.1 outputs evident. Wierd! http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/servlet/ProductDetailDisplay?storeId=10001&lang Id=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=1002665 |
   
Silver Member Username: Polksavage
Post Number: 182 Registered: Jun-06
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| Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 01:08 am: |
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Actually john those were cut and pasted from sonystyle.ca I won this in a selling contest for sony along with a camera and a 46 wega |
   
Gold Member Username: John_s
Columbus,
Ohio
US
Post Number: 1475 Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 09:32 am: |
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Curious. SonyStyleUSA does not mention SACD. http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_Display ProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=DVPNC85H%2fB&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=hav_D VD_DVDPlayers |
   
Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 10177 Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 10:17 am: |
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. Stick a SACD in the player and see if the front panel display lights up for SACD playback. Even if the player won't play the SACD layer, there should be a two channel CD layer it will track. |
   
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 6689 Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 01:10 pm: |
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Give the player to charity, Polk, ya cheap bastage! Keep the tv. |
   
Gold Member Username: John_s
Columbus,
Ohio
US
Post Number: 1480 Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 11:15 pm: |
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quote:Even if the player won't play the SACD layer, there should be a two channel CD layer it will track
That's what I meant by
quote:"HD layer on Super Audio CDs" I take that to mean it will play only the Red Book layer present on most SACDs.
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Platinum Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 10182 Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 11:29 am: |
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. OK, but that layer is not considered "HD". |
   
Gold Member Username: John_s
Columbus,
Ohio
US
Post Number: 1482 Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 12:25 pm: |
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The full quote is: "Also the owners manual (p.8) states that it will not play the "HD layer on Super Audio CDs" and my response is: "I take that to mean it will play only the Red Book layer present on most SACDs." |
   
Gold Member Username: My_rantz
Australia
Post Number: 1326 Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 04:56 pm: |
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I would take that the same way John. The HD layers are the High Definition layers so it in fact it doesn't play SACDs. So why do the specs state SACD decoding? A marketing ploy by Sony perhaps? |
   
Gold Member Username: John_s
Columbus,
Ohio
US
Post Number: 1485 Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 08:32 am: |
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"A marketing ploy by Sony perhaps?" If you can access the SonyStyleUSA site address I posted above you will see that there is no mention of SACD on the specs list. That it would say "SACD Decoding" on the Canadian site is simply a mistake, imo. Most likely a case of miscommunication beween the marketing and engineering departments. What is suprising is that it hasn't been corrected yet. Maybe it shows that most people don't read or care about the details, and that SACD is of little importance to most people anyway. |
   
Gold Member Username: My_rantz
Australia
Post Number: 1327 Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 03:25 am: |
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Important enough for them to add SACD decoding to the new playstation John (why is the question), but otherwise I agree with you. Cheers M.R. |
   
Gold Member Username: John_s
Columbus,
Ohio
US
Post Number: 1493 Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 03:44 pm: |
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You bring up an interesting point M.R. I understand Sony's Playstation 3 will play SACD not through a set of analog line outputs (it has none), but rather via its HDMI output. (HDMI has supported SACD since Version 1.2 in Aug. 2005.) I thought this was strange as I always thought Sony et.al. was paranoid about outputting SACD in digital form because of possible piracy. Thus all these players with multi-analog line outputs. And all this in spite of SACD's PSP watermark. In any case I agree M.R., just how many PS3 owners will be interested in playing SACDs is a good question. Plus, how many of them have receiver-pre/pros equipped with HDMI 1.2 inputs to process that signal? |
   
Gold Member Username: My_rantz
Australia
Post Number: 1328 Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 05:52 pm: |
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Yes, exactly John - possibly none on both counts. Good link, thanks |
   
New member Username: The_seventh_taylor
Post Number: 1 Registered: Sep-07
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| Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 05:18 pm: |
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just how many PS3 owners will be interested in playing SACDs is a good question. Plus, how many of them have receiver-pre/pros equipped with HDMI 1.2 inputs to process that signal? By 2007 not that many but by 2010 probably millions. |