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Thread: Who's heard the Acoustic Research ARXP410PL ? |
    
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 885
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 10:36 pm: |
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Anybody familiar with these speakers? http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4029536
I've read A very positive of their baby brother, the ARXP62, but I can't seem to find anything on the ARXP410PL. |
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Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 6168
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 11:10 pm: |
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Nope.
But they list wall mounting hardware for the speaker.
Yes, speaker, it is listed as an option for 2 of them, in the text
Caveat emptour.
And don't trust Nuck's Latin, either. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 886
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 07:08 am: |
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Glad to see you're still keeping the fires burning here at eCoustics.
I caught that wall mounting business too, but I think that's J&R error, not AR. http://www.audiovox.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001 &storeId=10001&productId=13756&langId=-1
It would seem that AR liquidated it's inventory of speakers (who knew they still built them?) to J&R. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 6172
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 08:38 am: |
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Looks that way, CM.
Also note that the picture shows only one speaker x2. IE, both right handed. The woofers will both be on the same side.
Rather symmetrical, but rather room difficult. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 887
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 02:21 pm: |
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Is the sub that position dependant?
I've divested myself of my beloved MA Radius 5.1 set-up, I've temporarily moved the Mission M32i up front while I wait (and wait) for the new offerings from AV123. I'm thinking, the X-Omni or X-Pro, maybe the X-LS Super Wave Guide (a fancy horn tweeter like HSU).
I was, and may still be, very close to purchasing a pair of Ohm Microwalsh Talls if things don't start to happen soon over at AV123.
The ARs are pretty mean looking speakers for $400/pair, dont'cha think? |
Silver Member Username: Stefanom
Vienna,
VA
United States
Post Number: 418
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 03:49 pm: |
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They definitely look mean. However, while I don't like to speculate on performance without listening, lets just say I wouldn't expect $1800 speaker performance out of them. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 6189
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 03:57 pm: |
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With a quoted response of 38Hz from an onboard amp, no I would not expect a lot either. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 6190
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 04:01 pm: |
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And at 38 Hz, I would not consider it a sub.
Just a woofer. And not a great response from an active woofer.
Keep shopping. |
Silver Member Username: Stefanom
Vienna,
VA
United States
Post Number: 419
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 04:09 pm: |
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Indeed. Emma does 38... I'd guess it bumps up the midbass a bit though. Most people find it favorable anyways. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 888
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 04:33 pm: |
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yeah, yeah...but they do look good.
Hey, they might be over-achievers? Have you read this review of the ARXP62? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=773485
Anywho, it was just a thought.
Any impressions of what's going on with the new x-series speakers over at AV123. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 6199
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 11:33 pm: |
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CM, don't you have like a dozen sets of speakers already?
I got quoted on a pair of xls w/stands for Canadian delivery.
Kinda sitting on the x-floorstanders. |
Silver Member Username: Stefanom
Vienna,
VA
United States
Post Number: 421
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 07:53 am: |
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Overachievers they might be, but I doubt they'd outperform a good pair of standmounts in their price bracket. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 889
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 10:14 am: |
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Nuck, I'm down to a large (M32i) & small (M70) pair of Missions at the moment. The M32i are rather large black box bookshelves, and while I am thoroughly content with their performance, they aren't the nicest looking speakers on the market, and my wife is giving me grief (This has been an ongoing theme with me for some time, performance vs. beauty vs. price). My criteria for my living room speakers are that they excel in 2Ch performance, go rather low (I'd rather not run a sub), have a large soundstage with pinpoint imaging, and will keep the wife quite about what they look like. Not too much to ask, is it?
Stephen, did you get a chance to read that user review of the ARXP62? I'm under the impression that this line of speakers from AR ain't that bad. I'll have a chance to listen to them myself soon, my brother-in-law just picked up a pair. |
Silver Member Username: Stefanom
Vienna,
VA
United States
Post Number: 423
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 10:42 am: |
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Yeah I saw the review, and from what the pictures show, I can't say too much negative about the build quality. In regards to the tower, I'd like to see some real information on it though, as opposed to what appears to be blatant BS on the part of J&R (dimensions, extension (noted to be wrong in the review), etc). |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 890
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 01:15 pm: |
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Have either of you guys seen or heard any AV123 products?
I've read all the reviews, but haven't acually seen any myself. |
Silver Member Username: Stefanom
Vienna,
VA
United States
Post Number: 425
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 01:27 pm: |
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Can't say I have. Tawaun would be your man on that, as he has heard at least three or four. He seems to be in love with the Strata currently. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 892
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 01:55 pm: |
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Yeah, I've read his review. |
Silver Member Username: Stefanom
Vienna,
VA
United States
Post Number: 427
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 02:34 pm: |
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Well, I'm sure you know about their risk free promotion. That would of course be the sure way to find out if they are what you are looking for. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 894
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 02:47 pm: |
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True, but none of this will happen until the speakers are actually released.
The X-Omni Mini Tower is about $350
The X-LS SWG is about $400
The X-Pro is about $600
All use new drivers with the XBL2 motor (think Emma), so they should be something special. |
Silver Member Username: Stefanom
Vienna,
VA
United States
Post Number: 428
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 03:01 pm: |
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Have you listened to Emma by any chance Chris? |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 895
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 05:36 pm: |
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Should I consider that an invitation Stephen?
No I haven't, though I had considered them for some time. I'm not sure I'm up to building a kit version (I don't have a workshop in my apartment), so I don't think it's in the cards.
I imagine AV123 will know what to do with those new drivers (they are also using some rather impressive tweeters at these price-points, not to mention those interesting Mirage Omni-like configurations), and am I right in thinking it were those XBL2 drivers that really made Tim's Emmas & Lings stand out? |
Silver Member Username: Stefanom
Vienna,
VA
United States
Post Number: 429
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 05:52 pm: |
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I'd be happy to give you an audition if you are interested.
As far as the XBL2, the Extremis driver used in Emma is very good. I think the implementation is a lot different in the Ling though (as the Lings 4.5" driver covered a wider range), and as a result they will probably sound a good bit different. In the Emma though, combined with the ribbon tweeter, it is very potent. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 896
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 06:22 pm: |
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I think the CSS FR125W & FR125S used in the Lings & Ling Singles benefited from the use of that motor design as well.
Nuck, you can chime in on the Ling Single at any time.
From Tim's site regarding the CSS FR125S:
"This single driver can deliver an amazing and accurate 60Hz to 20kHz frequency response. This has been accomplished by a specially modified voice coil and driver suspension along with the incredible XBL^2 motor design." |
Silver Member Username: Stefanom
Vienna,
VA
United States
Post Number: 430
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 06:44 pm: |
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I just mean that the Ling's 4.5" driver covered 60Hz all the way up to 10000. Emma's 6 on the other hand was made to dig deep into the bass. As a result, different implementations, different sound. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 897
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 06:52 pm: |
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Have you ever heard the Adire Tumult subwoofer?
What did Tim use in his Tom before it was gone? |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 898
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 07:17 pm: |
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Here's a line-up of the upcoming x-series speakers http://av123.wetpaint.com/page/X-Series+Speakers |
Silver Member Username: Stefanom
Vienna,
VA
United States
Post Number: 431
Registered: Apr-06
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| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 07:40 pm: |
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Didn't hear the Adire subwoofer. Thats good info on the X-series lineup though. |
