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Author Thread: Theater Research TR-2810 floor standing speaker ???
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Anonymous
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Bought some theater research speakers. BIG MISTAKE!! THESE SPEAKERS ARE NOT SHIELDED. MY TV IS RUINED NOW. THANKS THEATER RESEARCH! NOW I HAVER A DISCOLORED TV AND TWO OVER PRICED CHEAP SPEAKERS!
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Anonymous
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Anonymous

which model??

can someone told me if theres a problem with the tr-5210

thanks
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duped!
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NO!! I came to know about this board only AFTER I bought those speakers. Wish I had known earlier! :(
I was actually trying to find some info about the speakers and the company - and all I got was this msg board.
I hope someone pulls the plug on these Theater Research guys.
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Anonymous
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Ron is definatley an idiot. He says if this act was illegal that it wouldn't happen. Drug trafficking and child molestation are illegal but it happens all the time.
Open your eyes Ron
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Anonymous
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I have some beach front property for sell, cheap.
$1000 per acre. I can show it to you at low tide. Please come with cash only.
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dan catlett
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Just brought 2 TR-2810s back to my office -- bought from two guys in a white van (sure enough.) Occurred to me after the sale it might have been a con, so I hopped on line and found these discussion thread. I am relieved to say I only paid $100 for each ($200 total.)

I have to say, they ran a SMOOTH con on me -- $200 was all I had on me, or I would have paid more . . .
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got my bro
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My brother called to tell me about a home theater
system he had just bought from a couple of guys as he was leaving his credit union. In a white van of course. They wanted $1,000 and went down to $200. I knew when he called that this was the newest SCAM. I remembered the last one for Pro Dynamic speakers. I looked up TR-8000 and found this site. The only problem with this site is that people find out about it after they buy from these guys. I called up some of the radio stations to let buyers beware. I wish my bro had called me before his purchase. Guess we'll find out how they sound sometime this week, for those of you that did buy these remember to place them away from your TV's since their probably not shielded. They probably will sound okay till you push them, remember they probably dont have a crossover or any filters.
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Anonymous
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got my bro:
It sounds like the home theater speakers might be okay to place near your TV according to this board. I, however, own a set of tower speakers which destroyed my TV. They were sitting about 6 feet away from the TV too! Cheap things...they even smell like spray paint. Has anyone taken these things apart who knows much about speakers?
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White van - two men in Jewel parking lot in Chicago today. TR-5210 for $200.00. They look like they are worth the $$. I know nothing about audio set ups. I am confused about how to hook it up. Also concerned about the "shielded" thing. How far away do these speakers need to be from my TV to be safe? Would this affect a computer monitor as well? Anybody have any comments on quality or hook up of TR-5210? Go Cubbies!
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My mother paid $50 for a box of TR-5210s in Chicago yesterday-subwoofer has 8 conection points (2 for output left + 2 for output right & 2 for input left + 2 four iput right). My current RCA subwoofer connects to my Technics receiver thru a rca plug; my receiver doesn't have any speaker wire termination points for a sub woofer only a rca plug receptacle. Do the speakers pass thru the sub woofer or somthing? Any ideas? CUBS! CUBS! CUBS!
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johnny p.
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got me too!!!
i just bought a pair of tr1110...for a couple of
hundred dollars...canadian. i tried it and it
sounds way better than my 7yr/old pionner 100w
towers. but what worries me is...are they sheilded. please anyone inform me before it damage my 51"big screen tv.
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Christopher, a couple of the speakers are supposed to pass through the subwoofer. Left front speaker goes into the left input and the right front speaker goes into right output. The center speaker, rear speakers and subwoofer go through the receiver. You have to have a receiver that accepts speaker wire, not plugs unless you go buy some different connections at Radio Shack or someplace. Let me know how it goes. I don't have a receiver so I can't try mine out. Can't believe those Cubbies lost last night. I hope they roast 'em in Atlanta. Go Cubbies! As far as all you crybabies who feel scammed, get a life and accept responsibility. The speaker guys basically told you that they were stolen. Any legit delivery guy who is getting rid of "overstock" in a parking lot is stealing from his/her company. Guess it was ok for you to scam the company but it's not ok for them to scam you. Grow up and learn your lesson like I did. It's what we get for trying to buy hot property in the first place. Make the best of it.
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idiot
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Christine

I aslo bought a tr-5210.

I havent try it already...

I need a receiver and try to know what kind of receiver I need to buy...

If I understand your last post a receiver who can accept only 4 speakers would be fine????
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Yep 3 satellite speakers and the subwoofer go through the receiver. I went to Best Buy. They have DVD / Receiver combos that are about $200 - $250. You should definitely buy better speaker wire than came with the system. Still haven't set mine up yet as I'd prefer to sell it to some other unsuspecting fool. Let me know how it goes.
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idiot
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im worried to hook my 5210 because I dont know if they re shielded. anybody knows??
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Gnumb Gnuts
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Some are shielded, most are not...depends on the idiot who assembled them
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idiot
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what s the difference between both?? how can I shielded them?
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Jim
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TR-2000's (These are towers) are not shielded. They discolored my TV. However, I think I moved them quickly enough because the discoloration on my TV only lasted about a day.
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Donkeynutz Pelonious
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Yesterday, a van outside of a Wendys fast food, $150 for the pair (TR-2810), resold this morning for $500 and a half pound of very good nugs to some fool in the city. Thats about $1500 worth of profit folks... find a fool... get yer money back and then some... later folks
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montreal
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The site is finally up and running. There is allot of information on there. I can't find the tr-8200 series that I bought but everything else is on there with all of the specs. The site is quite nice. I also got a friend in Californina to check up the address and they are definatly there. I am starting to doubt the level of this "scam". My system works great and I did not pay much for it. It looks like all of us paid minimum $$$ for our systems, so why all the fuss.
I think that people are more pissed of at the fact that they thought they were getting a HUGE deal and in reality is was an ok deal.
I think that this is a brand new company and since the audio market is so large and difficult to enter, they went another way with their marketing program to get the product out on the street as much as possible.
I doubt that they are worth the thousands of dollars that TR is advertising them at, but I think they are definatly worth more then what most of us paid for.
my 2 cents.
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Anonymous
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I bought two tr-500 for 128 bucks they sound ok I am pissed that they lied to me and if I see those f888ers they are going to get f888ed up I live in spokane WA they were two kids one had tatoo's all over his arms and the other one was a fat white kid with a goatee in a white van older like a voyager.
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DonkeyKong
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Yo montreal. Dude, do a search on yahoo for "white van speaker scam" and look at all the bs you find. Then you'll realize the truth about theater research.
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DonkeyKong
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I've called Theater Research twice today and left messages both times. Their phone rings and rings until I answering machine picks up saying all lines are busy and to leave a message. I'm trying to return these speakers within the 3 days and so far no returned phone call.
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A couple of guys in an Expedition sold A friend a pair of Theater Research speakers @ 100.00 a piece. "30W to 400W" States the packaging box, I honestly think that these speakers are a piece of junk they look good but thats about it. who would sell a pair of speakers priced @ 1,900.00 for 200.00 a pair. Wake up people
\Central Washington State

I will be posting the results
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montreal
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Yo, donkeykong, I already checked out that thread and it says the same thing as this thread. I'm not saying that this thing is all ligit, I'm just saying that this may not be as big of a scam as everyone thinks it is. No one seem to have overpaid for what they bought, for the exception of a few. I'm very happy with my system, and like I said previously, they are definatly not worth the price tag listed on their catalog but I do think that they are worth what I paid for and maybe a bit more. But like you said, I may be blind or maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that really got a good deal.
peace
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montreal
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i just want to add that i'm not trying to make TR sound like a good company, they are obviously doing false publicity with their catalogs but dont you think that we are scammers as much as they are for purchasing something from the back of a van and paying 10 times less what the "listed" SRP is. We all bought these systems thinking we got a hell of a deal and at the same time scaming the company that suposedly overshiped these guys selling the systems. So who are we to scream SCAM when we were scamming the system ourselves. Everyone here is just pissed off that we probably did not get as good of a scam, i mean deal as we thought we got.
peace
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John
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Theater research changed or updated their website. Looks like their going to greater depth now to fool everyone.
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Anonymous
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WELL IM NOT REALLY IN THE SAME BOAT AS THE REST OF YOU... BUT I MIGHT HAVE SOME NEWS THAT WILL MAKE A COUPLE OF YOU A LITTLE HAPPIER... THEESE TWO SK8ER LOOKING DUDES DROVE UP NEXT TO ME AT A STOPLIGHT AND INFORMED ME OF THERE FORTUNE IN THE BACK OF THERE WHITE VAN.. WELL THIS IS NOT A UNCOMMON THING WHERE IM FROM.. SYLMAR CALI. SO I PULLED OVER TO A PARKING LOT AND HE SHOWED ME HIS STOCK AND INFORMED ME OF HOW HE JUST INSTALLED THEM IN A RICH GUYS HOUSE.. AND ON HIS WAY BACK FROM BEVERLY HILLS TO THE WEREHOUSE THEY WERE TRING TO GET RID OF THE OVERSTOCK.. BEFORE THERE MANAGER FINDS THEM AND TAKES THEM FOR HIMSELF.. WELL I TOLD THEM NO AND GOT BACK INTO MY CAR.. AND FOLLOWED THEM.. TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT.. I MADE A FEW CALLS ON THE CELL PHONE AND MY FRIENDS AND I ALL HAVE NEW STEREO SYSTEMS IN OUR HOME.. WELL AT LEAST SPEAKERS.. MY BEST FRIEND ALSO GOT SOME PARTS FOR HIS VAN... I HOPE THEY GOT AAA.. WELL THAT WAS ABOUT 3 WEEKS AGO... AND I JUST DECIDED TO CHECK UP ON THE COMPANY AND SEE IF THEY SOLD RECIVERS.. AND IMAGINE MY SUPRIZE WHEN I FOUND THIS THREAD.. WELL THANKS "TR" BEEN A PLEASURE !! :)
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speaker god
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i sell theater research any model you want.ive sold digital audio speakers for five years like this just recently we changed the name to theater research about 8 months ago. its good depending on what you buy and how much you pay. i have a tr601 home theater in my house, it rocks.people often ask me how i can do it, easy its your attitude and your street smarts, i either slam speakers on people, or beat the crap out of them when they get lippy or disrespect me, if you dont like what we do dont buy em, but for your own well being dont talk s&*^%if you know the deal because a veteran speaker guy will f#**k you up, you know why, because hes done this all day every day for years and he is a down motherf#**r trust me. im the nicest guy in the world on the street untill you disrespect me.i was taught by the best over five years ago, and will continue to teach this art of sales to anyone i believe has the right mentality, 1 out of every 10 guys will be good at this, maybe. that phone number is bogus its not the one i call every morning to order speakers and the go pick them up at a wherhouse. rock out fellow speaker dudes.if you do buy these speakers again give the speaker guy all your weed. peace out in spokane washington
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Hey i was approched by to young dudes in a white van in hollywood at a stop sign and ask me if i wanted some speakers i said pull over so that can i see them
he wanted 500 bucks for the TR-1410 so i said i'll give you 300bucks sure he said i was a bit worried on my way home speculating if the speakers worked an hey they sound really great best speakers i've bought for 300 bucks hey why not make a profit if you can turn around a sell them for a bit more as long as they work
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Anonymous
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Just Bought and Happy!
I bought off their web site, and got the speakers from UPS. They showed up in good condition, and I hooked them up to my New Kenwood and sound great.
Sounds like its a small company trying to compete with Best Buy, and their million dollar budget.
Just because they have a bunch of small sales people selling their stuff, doesn't mean the product and company aren't good.
I like them.
R. Lee
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I Bought a set of Speakers for my Music Recording studio and they Jam! I paid what they were worth to me and I hope anyone would do the same for any product.
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mike in Houston
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I just bought a set of 2800 for $500 I took them over one of my friends house to hook them up,he had a set of polk audios that he paid $1000 each speaker we disconected those and hooked my 2800's up and we couldn't tell the diffrence in sound. So im very happy and I feel I got a great deal!
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street houston
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I'm one of the speaker guys that all of you guys are trying to figure out.Let me tell you somethings without revealing to much,I've read most of your comments on the board just to trying to get some feed back, It makes me feel good that most of you guys are happy with your speakers,the guys that are not either do not know how to hook them up or just want something to b##ch about. I train speaker guys everyday thats what I do I've been doing that for seven yearslike speaker god said earlier only one out of ten guys actually make it. I'm going to answer some of your questions and tell you a little bit on how we do business. First of all speaker sales are the hardest sales that you can do the reason for that is that we are riding around yelling out the window trying to get your attention hoping that we can get your attention long enough for us to tell you our story.90% of the time you are not even thinking about speakers or thinking of spending some money. Let me tell you the speakers are very good good quality look beautiful and sound great. I have alot of repeat customers becouse I always give out my number.Everytime we get a new model we always get a sample we inspect the package we inspect the speaker, we inspect the sound and if we don't like it we will tell the manufacturer and he would do some modifications or he will quit maken it.and that is a fact he is always tryng to make a better product. Now let me tell you why are pitch is almost the same that we got extra speakers and we have to get rid of them fast.The main reason is becouse that pitch works and it has been working for years, people are greedy and they want a great deal,so if they think that they are hot or that you got them for free they want to hang around and see how low they can get you and that is when the negotiating game begins.Let me give you another example and one that I try with my new trainees I go out in the streets and tell the people that I have a wholesale audio equipment company and that I buy speakers by the thousands and that I can give them a great deal on some speakers. now all that is the complete truth, but do you know the answer I get 100% of the time? answer: Well that is great give me a business card and I will call you whenever I need some. I spend 8 hours in the street and go back to the office broke. The next day I go out in the streets and tell them that I got double ordered and that I have to get rid of the speakers right f##kin now! And I sell ten sets and with fat pockets. Thats why we do it like that.So people when you see my people in the streets be nice and take a look at our speakers they are great. I also challenge you to go into bestbuy and find some better looking or sounding speakers.It won't happen ! One more thing when my guys sell 20 sets in one week I GIVE THEM A $400 BONUS SO FOR THE FEW OF YA THAT got your speakers for $250 or less the only reason that happen was probaly becouse they were one set from making their bonus and they took a hundred dollar loss to make three hundred if that makes sense to ya.So for ya that are crying speaker scam need to shut up and be gratefull that you were in the presence of a great salesman. P:s Any questions type them down and I will try to answer them for you.
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Anonymous
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I mailed a transaction cancellation to the company and they received it within 3 days (certified mail). About a week and a half after they received it, I was left a voicemail from the company telling me to call them back...whoever sold me the speakers no longer works there & they want to know if the transaction was taken care of or not. Well, I have left messages for the company for the last two weeks and they have not returned my call. Why would the company call me, give me a number to call, and not return my phone calls? Is this another tactic?
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Anonymous
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Does anyone know if the theater research tr-5210 speakers are shielded? i don't want to screw up my tv.
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Anonymous
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I am really waiting to see you speaker god I have been driving looking for you you are not even going to see it coming. Speaker dude's are tough??? Ill show you how tough you really are. I was born and raised in the bronx I will show you how we take care of people like you.
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Anonymous
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Expect to give those 128 dollars back when I see you If you give me money back there wont be any problems and no you wont get your speakers back out of principal. and yeah the top message is from me too and yeah I live in spokane wa.I can shut people like you down completely if I want to and you will be paying me for protection money
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Anonymous
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hey houston, first off, I am not happy with my speakers. Second, I know how to hook up my speakers. Third, I am bietching about my speakers not b/c I only want to bietch but b/c the damn things totally ruined my TV! Go fukk yourself A hole. All you con-men will get yours.
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STREET HOUSTON: I just baught the tr-1110 speakers, can you tell me how to install them. this is my email adress: nizzlecracker@hotmail.com.

Thanks for your time, I'm sure they'll sound great!
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STREET HOUSTON
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sami Let me check into your speaker im not really familiar with the TR1110 Im not sure if we sell those in houston. let me do a little research and I will tell you all about them.

THANKS!
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Street houston
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If you have any questions for me please put my name so Ill know and try to answer your questions Anonymous I can see that you don't have good sense I've never heard of my speakers messing up a TV I have them at home on my 65 in mitsubishi HD TV they work great and so does the TV. I suggest you get you a new TV.
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Old Frt
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Hey all,

My stepson's friend is staying with us and guess what -- yep - you got it.... ha ha - (sorry..)

The kid bought the TR-5210's - they dont sound too bad - but then he has them hooked up to a cheapo emerson dvd/vhs combo unit.

Poor kid is all full of himself - telling me what a great deal he got - $250 for a $3000 setup....

I asked where he got them and he was evasive - finally stating that a friend hooked him up - then told me that he didnt want to get his "friend" in trouble and anyway it wasnt his business if they were stolen...

HA HA HA - (sorry - cant help it)

I got the brand name off the sub-woofer and scrambled upstairs - got on google and punched in "Theater Research" --- and --- I found you guys.

HELL --- Ooooooo !!

Hope you all dont mind - but I printed out about 30-pages of your posts along with the page from

http://www.scamshield.com/Feature.asp?id=1
Beware of vans bearing gifts!

I have deposited them in his restroom so the next time he needs reading material - he can have a good read - a good cry - and hopefully - not crap all over his bad ol' self...
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Now - on to the scam -

I noticed that a number of you think that this is a "New Scam"

NEWS FLASH for ya --- It IS NOT a new scam.

Back in 1981 I had just finished my tour in the air force and was living in Austin (in Houston now).
I was looking for work -- So - a friend and I answered an ad for "sales persons" - we get hired - and here is what happens....

Show up to work 7am monday morning for a "sales meeting"

All it is - is a 30-minute "rah rah session" designed to get everybody pumped up - then they took us to the warehouse and showed us the product - they had everything from pool-sticks to dinnerware.

They told us to pick what we thought we could sell - Mark the product and quantity on the inventory sheet they gave us - and load the stuff up into our cars, trucks, vans - whatever - and get the hell out there and SELL SELL SELL !!!

I only did this for about a week - i am not a salesperson

Anyway - during that week my friend and I were cruising all over the place trying to market the "junk in the trunk" -

Funny - most people would only buy if they thought our product was stolen -- we never said it was -- but -- when they asked - we never said it wasnt....

Anyway - we had finished some sales and were still in the parking lot of a strip mall when a "White Van" passed by -- One guy is leaning out the window trying to get our attention -- we thought that maybe they saw us selling and wanted to buy from us -- so we pull over and park it and they pull up and park next to us -- we open our trunk ('72 Nova) and they open the back of their van...

WE ALL HAD A GREAT LAUGH --but --

They had the goooood stuff

Can you say -- Au-di-o Spea-kers --- ??

Damn-it !!

All We had was a bunch of crap - Doh !!
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Cut to 1982-85

Anyone remember hearing the radio and TV advertisements...

"Crazy Jim is GOIN OUT OF Business !! -
Somebody screwed up and lost the weekly deposits !!
CREDITORS want their money and CRAZY Jim is
having a GOING OUT OF Business sale"
Eveything will be sold at ROCK Bottom prices
SALE is for THIS Weekend ONLY"

Or some such derivative....

The ad would run for weeks...loud and obnoxious -

Well - I finally decided to go and check it out - and let me tell you - they had every audio device you could think of - all no-name brands - all for rock bottom prices --
All for hundreds less than "list price"...

So - no -- the scam is not new --
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For some -- its not so much a scam - its a job -
these people have kids to feed, house payments -
van payments - etc....

Same as you and me -
(but without the vans -- right ?)

The only thing I really see wrong with what they are doing - is the lying.

I.E. - The claim that these are $2500 or $3000 setups.

But hey - lets face it -- we're all looking for a great deal --

We are all looking to get more for our dollar,

Look -- If these guys pulled up and said -

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"Hey yall -

Check out these speakers -
home theater systems - "et - cet - er -ah..."

Ya need a setup ?? --

Hey - these systems list for $250
We'll let you have em for just $200 ---"
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Honestly - Would you guys buy -- ??

No - you probably wouldn't ---

and Why not ??

Here's a couple of reasons...

Because you would say --

"Hmmm... $250 setup -- must be cheapo stuff --
Nah !! Go away and leave me alone man !!"

AND --- OR

You would want a better deal...

$50 dollars off - would not be a good enough deal for you.

So - what happens ??

The "White Van Scammers" just do what we ask em to do ---

Make us think we're getting a better deal....

No - wait -- Not a "better deal" --

We want them to make us think we are getting --

An "UN-believable Deal"

In fact -- we're getting -- a STEAL !!!!

Oh - YEAH Baby !!!

Thats right - uh-huh, uh-huh !!!

Come on-- you all watch TV --

The advertisers lie to us all the time. --

Why ??

Because we want them to --

They lie - we buy.

The bigger the lie --- the more we buy.

They all do it ---

Hey - ever wonder how many eskimos own refrigerators - with ice makers even ???

Dang - !!!

Have "The White Van Scammmers" been there too ?
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Okay -
Sorry this post was so long and that I may have gotten somewhat carried away.

I guess all this is just to say -live and learn-

-- Caveat Emptor -- (Buyer Beware !!)

Oh yeah -
and be cool
O.F.
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Jim
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To Street Houston:

I noticed I was not the only one having problems with my speakers being shielded. I have a 1 year old 36" Toshiba...not projection...just flat screen. Almost all speakers made today are shielded so the magnets will not distort your television if they are placed near-by. I opened up my speakers and placed them next to my TV and guess what? The TV turned green on either side of the picture tube within minutes of placing the speakers next to it. After about two days my TV returned to normal. First I had green sides to my picture. Then it turned to a brownish color before finally fading. Luckily, I moved these speakers in time. In short, it appears you are the one with "no sense" since I "anonymous" both had problems with the speaker magnets. Fortunately, I was able to correct the my problem.


To old frt: Nice write-up.
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I just bought the TR 5140 home theter system from to guys in a ford explorer in Flagstaff Arizona. They had four sets of them in the back of their explorer. I didn't really believe their story but do know that a cheap surround sound system is 100 bucks. You can buy them at albertson's but they a only about 5-7 pounds. This box was heavy and when I opened the box and examened the speakers they seemed to be of high quality. This purchased just happened 20 minutes ago. I am going to go and find these guys.Flagstaff is small, I will probably find them. Do these speakers work at all? I heard the sub does not work. It is heavy so it must be amplified. Please send me some info while I go and look for these guys. I only paid 125.00 for the surround sound system tr 5140. I don't feel too ripped off just lied too. Oh and is the warranty card real? Thanks Concerned buyer who is in college and knows he feels ripped off.
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Hi Guys, well I just bought a set of TR-5140. I paid 100.00 and there is no instructions or warranty card in the box. The product looks fine but I haven't tried it yet. I need instructions on how to wire it to my TV or DVD. Can anyone email me these if you have them? Same thing as many of you, I bought them from a guy name Chris in a white van.

Thanks, Ron
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Anonymous
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Hey Ron,

Are u in Calgary? Cause I just dropped $200 Canadian on a set of TR-1110's from a guy named Chris as well...
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thanks Street houston...waiting for your instructions!
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Duped!
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hey ...I think the speakers (TR 1100) are not that bad. Stop complaining ...guys! I dont think I was scammmed !
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onetime
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If the price is right, they're great.
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anonyman
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what kind of receiver do I need to buy to hook my 5210 Theater research??? (how many speakers output?)

anybody can help???
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Anonymous
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I love them. They're great!!!!!!
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Anonymous
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Well I definitely had a few guys approach me today but they definitely weren't in a white van. But he did pull out the boxes. He told me his boss ordered 4 speakers but there was a mess up with the order. He had 2 extra ones. So he wanted to sell them to me for $500. BOTH OF THEM. I told him I didn't want them but he insisted on bugging the crap out of me. I was so tempted to call the cops because he was hasseling me after I told him I didn't want them about 1000 times. He was wasting my time and he claimed that I was "wasting his time and that i MADE him open the box" when I didn't even ask him to show me. I first thought that they were stolen and that i was so going to jail for this but then again he wouldn't have sat there for a half an hour arguing with me if he actually stole them. He asked me what's the highest I could pay for them and I kept telling him that I didn't want them. I think it's so much bull**** that he kept badgering me. But I finally gave in and bought them for $250. They were $1000 a piece. Was it good for me to have bought them? I have no use for them whatsoever.
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Anonymous
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By the way, they were TR-900's. Has anybody heard of them before?
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