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Silver Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 930
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 07:14 pm: |
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Well I was watching a movie you see...BOOM explosion. The subwoofer quits making any tones and just makes a rattling noise at one frequency no matter what volume I play it at (I figure it's in the voice coil). Do you think I should have it repaired under warranty (5 year warranty) then return it and save up some money until I can afford the larger model so this doesn't happen again?
Remember the driver was almost hitting the floor when this happened and now I have to wait and either get it repaired and return...or keep it.
Do you think I should wait and save for the Seismic 12 instead? It wouldn't take too long to save the money anyway.
I'm kinda sad.. |
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Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 312
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 08:50 pm: |
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Andre, your going to go broke finding the limit of things! Turn it down!
At the rate your going, I would be sure to get a very high paying job ie. Doctor, Lawyer, or congressman. |
Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 9658
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 09:31 pm: |
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Andre - Isn't that your mother yelling, "TURN THAT DOWN! ... OK, that's better." |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 5534
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 10:20 pm: |
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Huh?
Will someone answer that darn phone?! |
Silver Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 931
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 11:33 pm: |
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Maybe if I can find a subwoofer with enough OUTPUT!!!!!!!!!!!! wHOO!!!! |
Silver Member Username: Bill984
Post Number: 202
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 07:23 am: |
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or get your hearing checked. a hearing aid would be cheaper!!! |
Gold Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 3832
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 08:53 am: |
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I'm not hearing anything about earning money for all this stuff. How does a 14 yr old afford this level of irresponsility? Just curious. |
Silver Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 935
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 03:45 pm: |
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Oh Art come on...you know I'm usually doing something to earn money like lawn mowing or whatever there is.
Well anyway I'm going to get $200 more and buy the Seismic 12. |
Silver Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 936
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 06:32 pm: |
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When we took it in they looked at it and it turns out the motor was destroyed during the explosion. An Ultracube 12 should take care of it  |
Bronze Member Username: Gavdawg
Post Number: 98
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 03:07 pm: |
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I find it hard to swallow that he blew his seismic. they are known to take abuse. Someone should have recomended SVS subs by now if this is really the truth :-)
www.svsubwoofers.com |
Gold Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 3847
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 03:32 pm: |
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I have to agree Gavin....SVS it is! |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 5564
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 03:46 pm: |
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Kablooey!
SVS is tough to beat for the manner in which Andre(where is Andre's dad?) uses stuff.
Heck, even I havn't blown anything up.
Will somebody answer that phone?! |
Bronze Member Username: Gavdawg
Post Number: 99
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 04:06 pm: |
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Nuck, did you see my other post yet? I made a comment about buying a JBL VerTEC system. You know, the concert line array system. It was a little facetious, but I have a feeling that is the level of bass that he may be looking for.
Andre, if you have not heard of SVS, they are known for ultra loud bass. They are not the most accurate subwoofers on the market (at least the lower end of the price range). I believe that Art also had some misgivings about them as well, but there are numerous people that have bought their subs and swear by them.
If you want ultra loud bass that is also really low, give them a shot. But a warning, some of their subs are really huge.
www.svsubwoofers.com |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 5571
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 05:29 pm: |
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My guess is that huge is not a problem for Andre(where are you Andre's dad?), but payment may be, as Andre's brother may not carry SVS in the store he manages.
Yes? |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1003
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 09:50 am: |
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Well guys, I didn't get cash back, only store credit... That's right Nuck, only B&W, MartinLogan, Paradigm
What do you mean where's my dad? |
Silver Member Username: Gavdawg
Post Number: 104
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 11:26 am: |
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he's being sarcastic, and thats how a warranty works. Most places will only give you store credit. |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 340
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 12:29 pm: |
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Andre, I have a teenage son, and I'm always telling him to "TURN IT DOWN". I think that is what Nuck is conveying here, if I were your dad, you would'nt have a chance to continue to blow things up!
Control the urge to test every limit young man. Some day you will find yourself with a very nice system, but nowhere to live (maybe someones garage) because of all the cash spent on audio replacements! And you'll look around and realize you could've had a 100g system, if you could've quit blowin stuff up! And a house. |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1004
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 02:24 pm: |
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The problem is...it wasn't that loud! My dad agrees as well.. you can barely hear anything outside. Maybe a Servo 15?..? |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 342
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 02:45 pm: |
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If you cant hear it down the street, its not loud. Outside is nothing!
The seed is planted once again! |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 343
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 02:46 pm: |
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Oh, yeah, the Sevo15 will play LOUD. But why stop there, VelodyneDD1812 |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1006
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 02:51 pm: |
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WTF, that'll take me years... seriously what is the Servo 15 compared to the Seismic series?
I do realize that Paradigm is a good value.
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Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1007
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 02:54 pm: |
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I'd just build a sub if I could stray off the path of B&W, Paradigm, or ML AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND had more money... ... ... ... . |
Silver Member Username: Gavdawg
Post Number: 107
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 03:41 pm: |
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MartinLogan makes some of the best subs that I have ever heard. However, they are designed more for music than the bloated wind boxes you hear for home theater.
A music sub can do HT, but the reverse is not usually the truth. It will muddy everything up. |
Silver Member Username: Gavdawg
Post Number: 108
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 03:42 pm: |
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the servo is one step up from the seismic series if memory serves me correctly. |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1011
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 03:50 pm: |
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Yeah, I just burst out crying for like 30 minutes and I don't know why. Anyway...
Yeah Gavin, I've heard the Depth and really liked it, but I still want to hear the Descent-i or Depth-i, I like the B&W 800 series subs. |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 344
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 04:44 pm: |
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everything ML. I cant take it! |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 345
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 04:44 pm: |
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especially when it doesnt apply to what this kid needs. |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 346
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 04:45 pm: |
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or is looking to do.
READ............................................................he likes to play it loud. |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1016
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 05:30 pm: |
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How would an SVS do in a 2x2x10 room?
If I blew a Seismic 10, what am I going to do??? Seriously what's going to be able to provide the volume I need. I want the doorknob on our front door to rattle. The best I was able to do was rattle the lights in the bathroom on the other side of the house. |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 347
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 05:55 pm: |
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If its just the store credit you can use, get the servo15, it will take your abuse, and probably rattle your door handle as well. |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1018
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 05:57 pm: |
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Thanks man |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 348
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 06:05 pm: |
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From all of us (a bit presumptuous maybe), to you Andre, no really, thank you man! |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 5585
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 06:28 pm: |
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hehehe |
Silver Member Username: Gavdawg
Post Number: 112
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 06:39 pm: |
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hahaha david
I wasnt giving him advice to buy ML, just making a statement that HT subs can't really play music, but the reverse is true. |
Gold Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 3856
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 07:09 pm: |
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It has been my experience that Paradigm subs are not hearty enough for the abuse proposed by Andre. I suggest getting whatever you can get at the store, don't unbox it and sell it on Audiogon. It's just money. How many Paradigm subs will you go through, makes no sense to keep up the madness. Once the new sub is sold on Audiogon you can get one of those VERY BIG SVS subs and let it all hang out!!! Just a thought. |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 349
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 08:42 pm: |
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I dunno Art, I've got a Servo 15, and actually after reading all of Andre's (problems?) I went and gave mine a workout just because (well, I can also afford to get something else, and kind of want to anyways!) and it wouldnt quit on me. I went through dark side of the moon, my wifes black eyes peas(lots of continuous bass) and a strictly bass (f-in) rap cd of my sons. I CANNOT blow that thing up, my wife was a little upset that now, all the pics in the house need to be centered again, but understood what I was doing once I mentioned what the situation was, and what my purpose was! She's glad Andre isn't our son by the way! Now, I'm off to help center pics!
BTW, gotcha Gavin! |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 350
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 08:43 pm: |
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Oh, and I agree. |
Gold Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 3859
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 09:02 pm: |
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My experience relative to the Paradigm subs come from owning 7 or 8 of them and having a friend who has sold and serviced them for 15 years. He owns 4 Servo 15's. 2 in his HT with Studio 100's all around and B&K gear the other 2 with his 2 channel setup with Audio Research gear and Apogee speakers. Perhaps I've just been around Paradigm too long and have seen too many subs in the boneyard. Heck I've blown 2 Paradigm subs and I definitely don't play 'em loud. Oops Andre didn't hear that did he..... |
Gold Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 3860
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 09:05 pm: |
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Oh and David don't blow it up man...donate it to a worthy cause...maybe Andre could use 2. How are those pictures hangin'. |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 351
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 10:09 pm: |
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pics back in order! It is entirely possible due to my good treatment of the sub, it wants to serve(o) me better!?
Guess I mighta got a decent one?
Heck I even turned up the Aerial a bit! Now, THAT was fun! |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 352
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 10:10 pm: |
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Oh, and since my son heard the bass capabilities, I now set a limit on LFE, bass output, he'd just love to do what Andre keeps doing! |
Gold Member Username: Joe_c
Atlanta,
GA
USA
Post Number: 1330
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 11:31 pm: |
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First set of speakers $100
Second set of speakers $500
third set of speakers $4000
fourth set of speakers Priceless
For most purchases, there's VISA
for everything else....there's Andre Money |
Silver Member Username: Darth
The woodlands
Post Number: 112
Registered: Aug-05
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| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 12:17 am: |
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Hey Andre,
Here is another option
http://www.earthquakesound.com/supernova15.htm
Cheers mate |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 5589
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 05:16 am: |
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Andre, since you and Pappy agree that it wasn't that loud, is it possible that a shot of static, or bad signal got to the sub via source, cables or carpeting? |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1020
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 10:37 am: |
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No, Nuck. NOOOOOOOO, I do remember testing the sub out though. Before I got it, it had been on the showroom floor for about a day and I didn't know that. I ripped out heavy bass on it it's first time playing... maybe that had something to do with it. It hurt my ears though...it was plugged into all of Rotel's best. |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1021
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 10:39 am: |
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I really like the idea of a PB12-SVSUltra/2 or Plus/2..hehe |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1025
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 01:04 pm: |
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Lol I've discovered I like this song.
Beastie Boys-Paul Revere
I turn it up just enough so the drivers on the mains hit their limits. I mean, I can feel it a lot, but I wish I had a sub. I'm going to try the Seismic 12 when I get the money and if it's enough, it's enough. If it's not, I may find myself ending up with an SVS PB12-Ultra/2 HEHE. |
Silver Member Username: Gavdawg
Post Number: 121
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 04:48 pm: |
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you DO NOT want the drivers on your main speakers to hit their limits!!!!
you are going to blow those next!
Haven't you learned anything from posting and reading? |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1036
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 04:53 pm: |
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Don't worry I've done it for years.  |
Platinum Member Username: Project6
Post Number: 12638
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 05:01 pm: |
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Yeah Gavin, his breath of experience is now 6 years. He's been doing this since he was 8 years old. He knows what he's doing  |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 5591
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 05:12 pm: |
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Salesman's dream. It ain't dry. |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1037
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 05:12 pm: |
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L0L  |
Silver Member Username: Davidpa
Portland,
Oregon
US
Post Number: 358
Registered: Nov-05
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| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 05:14 pm: |
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See Ya in a week! Thanks, come again. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 5592
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 05:18 pm: |
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Is that the salesman or the sandman? |
Silver Member Username: Gavdawg
Post Number: 124
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 04:48 pm: |
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Done it for years? And that would be two? I am 23, which is less than half the age of some of the guys on here (sorry guys, but I had to to put things into perspective).
you need to stop acting like an expert. I freely admit when I do not know anything about a certain portion of a post, but will give advice on what I DO know, just to avoid being misleading. While I am here, I learn and read.
I advise you to do the same instead of acting like you know what you are doing, which is clear to everyone making sarcastic posts that you do not.
Making a speaker hit its limits stresses its components, and will blow it. It can also "fry" the voice coil in extreme conditions. Speaker companies will NOT cover that under your warranty as it constitutes abuse. |
Silver Member Username: Gavdawg
Post Number: 125
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 04:50 pm: |
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I hope that does not read as an attack, but it is the truth. |
Gold Member Username: Arande2
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Post Number: 1046
Registered: Dec-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 05:02 pm: |
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I don't read it as an attack, in fact, I was probably being a little misleading. I probably should've said I was pushing them to what I think was far enough, which is more like 5mm (out of 10max) lol. They're like 8 years old so |
Silver Member Username: Gavdawg
Post Number: 126
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| Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 06:23 pm: |
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when you state that you are pushing them to the limit, it means it is as far as they go. This will blow them. Usually it means that you play them until they distort. |
Silver Member Username: Gavdawg
Post Number: 155
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 10:08 am: |
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you guys should check out my last post on the bottom of this page here... it says a lot :-)
I put a few things together, and now really think Andre is full of $hit.
Look at what he says about his speakers on this page (age, how he makes them "hit the limits", and stuff like that), and look at my last post on this page
http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/1/320290.html
it will all make sense.
I really believe I am correct on this one. |
Platinum Member Username: Project6
Post Number: 12712
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| Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 08:09 pm: |
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A lot have already come to some conclusion one way or the other, so just don't worry about it, Gavin. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 5628
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| Posted on Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 08:38 pm: |
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I hit the stops for a test one time too. |
