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Silver Member Username: Bill984
Post Number: 162
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 08:43 pm: |
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i see pioneer elite recievers and velodyne subs at 300 to 500 off retail but they are not an "authorized dealer"' i realize the mfg wants you to buy from an authorized dealer because they all charge the same msrp. but if a dealer can sell the same 1100 dollar reciever for 750 it seems to me you are actually paying 350 for a warranty. |
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 9522
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 12:46 am: |
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How much will you pay for a warranty? |
Bronze Member Username: Mike53
Post Number: 15
Registered: Oct-06
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| Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 07:59 am: |
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It depends on what the warranty covers and how long it last. A warranty that is 1/3 the value of the item seems rather excessive, to me. |
Silver Member Username: Bill984
Post Number: 163
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 10:29 am: |
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but is that (the warranty) really the only reason for the price difference? i assume the "unauthorized" dealer buys the product from the same factory.
seems like "gray market" cameras to me. |
Bronze Member Username: Mike53
Post Number: 17
Registered: Oct-06
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| Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 10:41 am: |
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How can an "unauthorized" dealer buy a product from the factory? When I think of an "unauthorized" dealer I envision one of these clearance houses that buys left-overs and last year's products. That or the "black market" dealers. |
Gold Member Username: Frank_abela
Berkshire
UK
Post Number: 1762
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 11:02 am: |
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The other reason is that typically the unauthorized dealer doesn't have the backup, offer the service or have the facilities of an authorized dealer, thus not being able to support and represent the product in a fashion to the manufacturer's specifications. Given that it's always easier to hit on a bad configuration than a good one, this is what you're really paying for.
Regards,
Frank. ('authorized dealer') |
Silver Member Username: Bill984
Post Number: 164
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 11:13 am: |
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frank, great, that is what i thought. service and convenience. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 4971
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 07:04 pm: |
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Service, indeed, convenience in a way.
To get a unit repaired it must be packed up and leave your home.Few shops do repairs. It is going to get shipped away. So that convenience is gone, mostly.
Convenient to order, no difference.
Convenient to go pick it up, or risk the OOPS, er UPS?, tie.
The convenience is having the service available, before(sometimes long before), during and after the sale. If you know what you want, go buy it, warranty or not.
If you don't go to a shop or two to listen(service) and chat about various Brands(service) and get to try stuff out at home(if you don't get this service, you should). Or the service of the set-up guy for a theatre?
I've had 3 great dealers in the last 20 years, 2 still, 1 I buy from usually.
If I had listened to the best advise and the best equipment, I would still have my present stereo.
And about $4500.00 |
Silver Member Username: Daniel_canada
Canada
Post Number: 246
Registered: May-06
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| Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 07:52 pm: |
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It cost big $$$ to keep a store front, hours and decent employees. |
Silver Member Username: Bill984
Post Number: 166
Registered: Oct-05
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| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 09:13 am: |
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i bought a yamaha ysp-1100 and mounted it on the wall before realizing that the serial number was on the back and i didn't want to take it back down. yamaha told me that registering with a serial no was a marketing tool to get my info. and that without it the product was still under warranty. i assume a warranty on a new product is valid even if you don't buy from an "authorized" dealer. the product would still come with a warranty card in the box. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 4985
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 09:51 am: |
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Brand independant, the proof would be when you submit a claim.
To be sure, why not call the manufacturer and run the SN? |
Gold Member Username: Touche6784
USA
Post Number: 1154
Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 10:37 am: |
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bill, most if not all audio companies have disclaimers stating that purchases from unauthorized dealers automatically nulls the warranty. you have the absolutely wrong idea in terms of warranty and unauthorized dealers. companies have the ability to track where items should have been purchased using the serial numbers which is why many unauthorized dealers will remove or alter them so they can not track where the item was from. if you dont want to get it from an authorized dealer go to ebay or audiogon. you have a better chance of getting a working product from there. |
Gold Member Username: Touche6784
USA
Post Number: 1155
Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 10:41 am: |
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2076_310070097_310105092%2C00.html,http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/t op/div/article/0,,2076_310070097_310105092,00.html
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/customer/dealer.aspx?CTID=5010030
now that could not have been that hard to do bill. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 5011
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 05:36 pm: |
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now that could not have been that hard to do bill.
The link is wrong.
now that could not have been that hard to do, Christopher. |
Gold Member Username: Touche6784
USA
Post Number: 1156
Registered: Nov-04
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| Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 08:34 pm: |
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i tried again and its the forum not the link that doesnt work. still, all the guy had to do was go to pioneer's website to see the disclaimer. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 5013
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 12:00 am: |
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Reading the fine print is always good advise, Christopher. Thanks. |
Bronze Member Username: Rysa3
Houston, Texas
Post Number: 81
Registered: Nov-06
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| Posted on Sunday, December 24, 2006 - 02:48 am: |
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Actually what can happen ( and has happened) is that unauthorized dealers buy from authorized ealers to help the authorized dealers meet quotas or increase sales numbers. I am not impuning any specific authorized dealers but have read the litigation involving "Crazy Eddie" and others over the past few years. |
