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Silver Member Username: Adam_s
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| Posted on Monday, November 06, 2006 - 12:57 am: |
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Ok, Well I am into the car audio thing but have decided that I really need something for my room...I am looking for a reciever and prolly 2 speakers...I eventually would like to add a sub but for the time being I will just do the speakers. I am mainly going to play music but might use it for tv or movies. So if anyone could help me out It would be greatly appreciated....Trying to keep this as cheap as possible under 500 if I can |
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Gold Member Username: Kano
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Post Number: 1113
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| Posted on Monday, November 06, 2006 - 01:31 am: |
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A good 2 ch receiver is the Harman Kardon HK-3380/3480. New they run around $400, you can get a factory refurbished one for $198
http://www.harmanaudio.com/search_browse/product_detail.asp?urlMaterialNumber=HK %203480-Z
For speakers there are endless options but the target price for a great set of bookshelfs tends to be around $400
$500
http://www.us.alegriaaudio.com/Ling.htm
$368 shipped
http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/cbm170/cbm170.htm |
Silver Member Username: Adam_s
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 11:27 am: |
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OK I like that reciever but what do you think about the JBL e90 for speakers??
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&Q=&is=DEMO&O=productli st&sku=433738 |
Platinum Member Username: Project6
Post Number: 11435
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:21 pm: |
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I'd go with the recommendations from Kano. There's also Athena ASF-2.2, a much better option than the e90s. I think it provides more detail. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
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Post Number: 685
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:26 pm: |
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I absolutely agree HK is an excellent choice, but if Home Theater is a future consideration I would opt for the AVR-135 http://www.harmanaudio.com/search_browse/product_detail.asp?urlMaterialNumber=AV R%20230-Z&status=
These Wharfedale Diamond 8.2 only sale at Amazon for $199, shipped, are the best value by far going today http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00005IA30/ref=dp_olp_2/002-2539786-58472 00 , but they are on back order, so if you need speakers ASAP, in addition to the aforementioned speakers, I would consider the ONIX X-LS for $219 from AV123 http://www.av123.com/products_product.php?section=speakers&product=82.1 , and these factory refurbished Infinity Beta 20 for $199 ($250 with shipping, still a good deal). http://cgi.ebay.com/INFINITY-BETA-20-BLACK-PAIR-ONLY-199-WHAT-A-DEAL_W0QQitemZ13 0042929169QQihZ003QQcategoryZ94905QQcmdZViewItem |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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Post Number: 686
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:28 pm: |
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Those JBLs bust you $500 budget. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
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Post Number: 687
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:33 pm: |
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Hold your horses, this feactory refubished Marantz SR4600 for $249 http://www.accessories4less.com/cgi-bin/item/MARSR4600 is the way to go. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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Post Number: 688
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:34 pm: |
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Hold your horses, this factory refubished Marantz SR4600 for $249 http://www.accessories4less.com/cgi-bin/item/MARSR4600 is the way to go. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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Post Number: 689
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 12:45 pm: |
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If the "As Cheap As Possible" really is the main goal, consider these Polk R150s on sale at Frys for $40/pair (LAST DAY TODAY!) http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4965491 or these Polk R300 Floorstanders for $50/Each http://shop4.outpost.com/product/4965501?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
With this receiver Onkyo TXSR304 for $99 http://www.accessories4less.com/cgi-bin/item/ONKTXSR304S |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
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Post Number: 690
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 01:14 pm: |
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Also these Mission M31 for $149/pair http://www.tsto.com/cgi-bin/TSTO.storefront/4550ca2000198d6a2741ac100341060a/Pro duct/View/2321
And these Mission M73i floorstanders for $230/pair http://www.tsto.com/cgi-bin/TSTO.storefront/4550ca2000198d6a2741ac100341060a/Pro duct/View/2393
Or these Wharfedale Crystal 30 floorstanders for $109/pair (!) http://www.tsto.com/cgi-bin/TSTO.storefront/4550ca2000198d6a2741ac100341060a/Pro duct/View/2099&2D2
Not to mention these Wharfedale Diamond 8.3 floorstanders for $199/pair http://www.amazon.com/Wharfedale-Diamond-Floorstanding-Loudspeakers-Black/dp/B00 005IA32 |
Silver Member Username: Adam_s
Sound Splinter,
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Post Number: 333
Registered: Aug-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 01:41 pm: |
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I am not really into home theater at all.....I am just looking for music....I am also kind of set on having floorstanding ones.....another main thing I want out of them is some pretty good bass becuase most of the music I listen to has a lot of bass.....and what is so bad about the e90s??? |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
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Post Number: 691
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 02:50 pm: |
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you did say receiver & pair of floorstanders for under $500, that's the problem. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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Post Number: 692
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 02:54 pm: |
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"I am mainly going to play music but might use it for tv or movies." |
Silver Member Username: Adam_s
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 03:44 pm: |
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ok....well what I want it for is only music now....I have decided thats what I want After thinking about it.....so could you inform me why the e90s arent very good??? |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 693
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 04:18 pm: |
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I suspect they are good for what you've described, but they're a bit expensive, $180/each+shipping. |
Bronze Member Username: Marsden
Capital City
Post Number: 41
Registered: Oct-06
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 05:13 pm: |
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CM: "on sale at Frys (LAST DAY TODAY!)"
....so does this mean they've finally agreed to a commish?  |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
USA
Post Number: 694
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 05:26 pm: |
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? |
Silver Member Username: Adam_s
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Post Number: 335
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 05:41 pm: |
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yes thats really the only downside to them that I see but I can get the reciever, speakers, and wire shipped for 660 so thats not really that bad because I think it will do the things that I want it for....or at least that is what I am hoping for. I have read quite a few reviews from people about both things and they all have had good reviews about the reciever and the speakers, a lot of people said the speakers had good bass and sounded good. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 4517
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 07:49 pm: |
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The JBL's are brutal.
Polk better.
Athena ok too.
Grunt. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
Brooklyn,
NY
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Post Number: 696
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 09:20 pm: |
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Nuck, The man said he likes bass, JBL do bass. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 4524
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 04:20 am: |
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And little else.
CV is Bass. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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Post Number: 699
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| Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 06:58 am: |
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true. |
Silver Member Username: Adam_s
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| Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 11:43 am: |
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what is CV???? |
Platinum Member Username: Project6
Post Number: 11443
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 09:47 pm: |
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CV= Cerwin Vega |
Silver Member Username: Adam_s
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| Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 11:28 pm: |
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what cv speakers would you suggest?? |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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NY
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Post Number: 703
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 12:30 am: |
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look no further and purchase two of these Cerwin Vega CLS-12 @ Amazon.com for $195.25/Each w/Free Shipping http://www.amazon.com/Cerwin-Vega-CLSC-12-Classic-12-Inch-Speaker/dp/B0001H6DKI/ ref=pd_sxp_grid_pt_1_0/002-2787300-5062454
Pair them up with this Insignia Stereo Receiver for $79.99 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1099394773324&skuId=7016481&type=prod uct , and you'll be rock'in out & under budget. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 12:43 am: |
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Same receiver for $60 delivered on eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-200W-INSIGNIA-HOME-THEATER-RECEIVER-SYSTEM-W-REMOTE_W0QQ itemZ330048000786QQihZ014QQcategoryZ1499QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 01:06 am: |
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Actually it's the CLSC-12 above. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
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Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 05:31 am: |
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Those CV's play amazingly loud.
They are like 95db sensitivity or so? |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 4530
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 05:39 am: |
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Good links, CM.
Maybe add back that HK 3380 for a set-up.
http://www.harmanaudio.com/search_browse/product_detail.asp?urlMaterialNumber=HK %203480-Z
Over the $500, but hold on tight when you crank it up! |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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Post Number: 706
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 07:17 am: |
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Thanks Nuck, they're 92db...Wow! How familiar are you with Cerwin Vega? Do they get a fair shake in the marketplace? They're reminiscent of the Klipsch Heritage line.
The HK-3480 is linked to above, but it's a bit of a budget buster, but I'd cough-up the extra $$$ forit if I could.
I'm not sure who's building the Insignia receivers for Best Buy, but they seem to be solid, and for $60 worth definitely worth a try (If I had a place to put it, I'd pick one up at that price). |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 07:28 am: |
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CM, I used to be familiar with CV in a strip-bar kind of way.
I think CV get a fair shake as far as their uses go, no hi-fi happening, but affordable, rugged and solid delivery. The 3-way will fill a hall.
I used them as kareoke monitors and they worked really well.
Not audiophile, but very very good at what they do.
Yeah, for $60 bucks, why not the Insignia? If I were to have only one receiver it would be the H/K, but for a 2nd unit, or for S&G, why not? |
Silver Member Username: Adam_s
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Post Number: 338
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 10:38 am: |
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What about the ve-12 cerwin vega for speakers....I like how the look allittle more.....these are going into my room so I would like it to look allittle cleaner and the ve-12 gives that to me and are about the same price |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
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Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 10:54 am: |
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I don't find the ve series, Stein, do you have a link? |
Silver Member Username: Adam_s
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 11:17 am: |
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sorry heres a link
http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=VE12
on amazon I can get the pair for about 340 shipped |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 11:26 am: |
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Those are a step below the classics we saw earlier. Paper cones on mid and tweet, the classics are better. But your $, Stein, I would pop for the classics, meself.
BUT, this is if you are considering these after all. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
Post Number: 4544
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 11:27 am: |
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Along with the H/K,do y'self a favor and get that receiver. |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 11:42 am: |
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Also bear in mind, if you get jumpy with the volume knob, you might blow your head off. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 11:43 am: |
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I'm going to have to find a modern-day review of a C-V! S&G? |
Gold Member Username: Nuck
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 11:45 am: |
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Shites and Giggles. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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NY
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Post Number: 708
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 11:54 am: |
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The newer CLS-12 has larger grills that cover the mid-range, are bi-wirable, and have some other minor tweaks. http://www.amazon.com/Cerwin-CLS-12-3-Way-Tower-Speakers/dp/B0009Y4T5Y/sr=1-12/qid=1163090643/ref=sr_1_12/002-2787300-5062454?ie=UTF8&s=electronics
This is what the CLS-12 looks like
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Gold Member Username: Nuck
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 12:15 pm: |
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65 lbs. 28kg.
Oy, the shipping!
If free shipping is involved, jump!
These will just SMOKE a hall. I like 'em. |
Silver Member Username: Adam_s
Sound Splinter,
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 12:27 pm: |
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ok thank you all very much....I am going to go with the HK reciever and then the classics. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 12:53 pm: |
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Nice choice. Let me know how you like them. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 01:56 pm: |
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Here's a glowing eCoustics review of the CLSC-10 http://ecoustics.epinions.com/pr-Cerwin_Vega_CLSC-10_Main_Stereo_Speaker/linkin_ id_~3035301/display_~reviews
...with the CLSC-12s rated down to 28Hz, you pretty much put to rest any doubt whether or not you will ever need need a sub. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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| Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 02:41 pm: |
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Imagine this KILLER "home" theater speaker system for under $700 delivered.
2-CLSC-12 Mains
2-CLSC-6 Rears
1-CLSC-6C Center
Throw in a few Insignia 200W 2CH Reciever/Amps for $80 a pop + an Insignia 600W 6.1CH Receiver for $130.
...I'm excited just thinking about it, it appeals to the Bensonhurst in me. |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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| Posted on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 08:42 am: |
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Adam_s
Did you wind up getting the C-V!'s? how do you like them? |
Bronze Member Username: Gavdawg
Post Number: 28
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| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 12:20 pm: |
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Chris....
I wonder what those CV's would sound like powered by the Pioneer Elite A-35R
its a KICK @SS midfi intergrated that puts out 45 watts. it has a really rich, warm almost tubelike sound. positively addicitve in the delivery, and would be killer for high efficiency speakers like those horn loads.
Ive seen it for less than $200 on yahoo shopping.
2076_310069801_35186%2C00.html,http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/produ ct/details/0,,2076_310069801_35186,00.html |
Silver Member Username: Exerciseguy
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| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 02:28 pm: |
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I've gotta tell ya, I'm really intrigued by the C-V!'s. I'd love to hear them paired with that Pioneer, I'd love to hear them in a situation better than a catering hall or bar. |
Bronze Member Username: Gavdawg
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| Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 05:26 pm: |
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I heard that little elite powering a pair of MartinLogan clarities, and it didnt cry uncle until the volume was turned up. At the volumes I usually listen to, and in the smallish room, which was a similar size to mine, it powered them admirably, although the volume knob was turned up a bit.
that should say something about the power supply. The clarities arent really obnoxious to drive, but arent like klipsch either. This intergrated does not seem to be built like a run of the mill reciever.
I have been reccomending it to people here that have efficient speakers that are looking for a simple, effective, yet awesome sounding and at the same time inexpensive way to upgrade from a reciever. To my ears it is the best sounding STEREO midfi piece that I have ever heard for $200.
No, I wouldnt pair it with a laid back speaker however :-) |
Silver Member Username: Adam_s
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Post Number: 383
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| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 09:35 pm: |
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No, I didnt end up getting any of it becuase I ran into some financial issues with my car breaking down so I am even forced to sell my car audio equipment as well. |
Platinum Member Username: Project6
Post Number: 11749
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| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 10:49 pm: |
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That's too bad. Sorry to hear that, man! |
Bronze Member Username: Arande2
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| Posted on Tuesday, December 05, 2006 - 11:17 pm: |
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Ah that's so annoying! I don't even drive a car though, what would I know?? |
Silver Member Username: Adam_s
Sound Splinter,
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| Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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yeah....Im pretty bummed about it...but its just one of those unexpected things |
