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Thread: "Budget" Amplifiers |
    
Silver Member Username: W00b
Post Number: 200
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 02:56 am: |
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I am looking to drive a pair of Axiom M60Ti's.. I was originally looking at the NAD C272 amplifier, which is "2 x 150W Minimum Continuous Power into 4/8 ohms" for $700
Recently I have came across outlaw audio, I haven't heard anything bad about them, and finding their products online is a TON easier!! They have a 200 watt monoblock amplifier for $325, if i get 2 that would make $650.
So my question is, would it be beneficial for me to get the outlaws, which are easier to find and will save me ~$50, or keep looking for NAD dealers? As quoted from another member on these boards, i too live in the audio desert, and finding a dealer that sells anything good is very hard to do. thanks |
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Gold Member Username: Project6
Post Number: 4072
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 07:22 am: |
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I have the Outlaw Audio products and I think they are great, the 7100 and various M blocks. The M Block amplifiers are one of better ones that I have used. |
Silver Member Username: Stu_pitt
NYC,
NY
Post Number: 606
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 01:06 pm: |
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Berny -
I'd like to hear more about the Outlaw monoblocks. Most of the people on Outlaw's message board are into H/T, and don't say much about music sound quality. Have you compared them to NAD? I was thinking of getting two of them, then down the road getting two more if I liked them to bi-amp my PSB's. |
Gold Member Username: T_bomb25
Dayton,
Ohio
United States
Post Number: 1048
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 01:23 pm: |
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The Odyssey Khartigo $775 it is essentially a $3400 Amp under the Symphany line in Germany check it out www.odysseyaudio.com |
Gold Member Username: Dmwiley
Post Number: 1207
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 06:59 pm: |
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Having heard the Outlaw monoblocks on many occasions, I think they are really good for the money. Of course, you will need a decent preamp.
The MOFO has spoken. |
Gold Member Username: Dmwiley
Post Number: 1208
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 07:00 pm: |
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For the money, I think the Outlaw Monoblocks are great, especially when paired with a decent preamp.
The MOFO has spoken. |
Gold Member Username: Dmwiley
Post Number: 1209
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 07:02 pm: |
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Sorry for the double post, but received an error message.
The MOFO has redundantly spoken. |
Gold Member Username: Project6
Post Number: 4075
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 01:36 am: |
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Stu,
Actually I used a NAD T773 as a pre/pro for 5 Outlaw 200 M-Blocks coupled to some Cremonas (I did not use all 7 channels). I don’t think that they have a particular sound, being that the source was a NAD, I did not hear anything out of the ordinary besides the increased definition of strings and vocals, my wife (the one with the golden ears), noticed the woodwinds as being more refined and pronounced (her words, not mine). Truthfully, I am not much to describe sounds and things that I hear, I leave that to the intellectuals, I am more attuned to what I like and rarely pay attention to others’ description of what they hear. I honestly did not think that the T773 needed any further amplification but I did it anyway. It did not stay on very long as I thought it was overkill for the 773 (who said that?).
So I have relegated the M-Blocks to a lowly Kenwood KRF9070D with all 7 power amps connected. Don’t laugh, but I really like the sound of the Kenwood better, my snobby friends couldn’t figure that out either. The Cremonas will soon move to the Kenwood and Outlaw Combo and the Axioms will be with the T773.
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Silver Member Username: Audioholic
Post Number: 168
Registered: Apr-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 07:30 am: |
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Tawaun said "The Odyssey Khartigo $775 it is essentially a $3400 Amp under the Symphany line in Germany check it out" I did. They don't LIST a "khartigo" model amp. Nor do they have any single model listed for under $1K. Do you ever get ANYTHING RIGHT? |
Gold Member Username: Dmwiley
Post Number: 1211
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 08:05 am: |
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Paul, consider the source.
The MOFO has spoke. |
Bronze Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 56
Registered: Aug-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 01:50 pm: |
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Actually, Tawaun is correct this time. Klaus is well known to neglect the web site. The Khartago has been out quite awhile(2 years?). The only real way to follow Odyssey is from Klaus' posts on audiocircle's Odyssey circle. http://audiocircle.com/circles/viewforum.php?f=10
Did I just defend Tawaun??? |
Gold Member Username: Edster922
Abubala,
Ababala
The Occupation
Post Number: 2305
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 02:15 pm: |
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LOL Quinn, at least you didn't just defend Paul (not Bayless, the Paul of CerwinVega infamy). |
Silver Member Username: Stu_pitt
NYC,
NY
Post Number: 608
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 02:55 pm: |
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Berny -
Thanks for the info. I totally agree with you on not liking to describe certain sounds. One person's bright is another's detailed; one person's warm is another's muddy, etc. I think when my annual raise comes in January I'll pick two up and try them out. From what everyone has said about them it seems like a good gamble. Maybe I'll go to their page and try to see if anyone in my area owns them and is willing to let me hear them. |
Gold Member Username: T_bomb25
Dayton,
Ohio
United States
Post Number: 1049
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 02:58 pm: |
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Bayless I'll let you on to a little secret even though I think your a popus Pr1ck,go down to the bottom of the page on the Odyssey website,to reviews and pull up the reviews you will find what you need on the Khartigo and the Epiphony and the rest of their great lineup. |
Gold Member Username: T_bomb25
Dayton,
Ohio
United States
Post Number: 1051
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 04:07 pm: |
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Quinn what the hell do you mean this time, I dont say things I dont know about in audio or anything else in life.If I dont know a product I dont try to judge it unlike some people on this forum,so get your story straight,and yeah you dont need to defend me,hell lets get real it deffinetly isnt anything in audio you know that I dont know.Bayless what do you want to know about Odyssey for?you aint gonna listen to them we all know you dont listen to audio,what are you gonna do pull up the review and read the measurements and ignore the review.I did get that right didnt I? |
Bronze Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 57
Registered: Aug-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 05:18 pm: |
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Calm down T. just having a little fun. When have I ever gotten into it with you over anything you've said? Never comes to mind.
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Silver Member Username: W00b
Post Number: 201
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 05:41 pm: |
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how many amplifiers can you hook to 1 receiver? |
Gold Member Username: T_bomb25
Dayton,
Ohio
United States
Post Number: 1055
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 06:08 pm: |
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Alright Quinn. |
Gold Member Username: Edster922
Abubala,
Ababala
The Occupation
Post Number: 2310
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Friday, September 30, 2005 - 10:33 pm: |
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TW, where oh where is that Lings review??? You're killin' me, man! |
Silver Member Username: Cheapskate
Post Number: 405
Registered: Mar-04
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| Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 03:02 pm: |
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you could NEVER get me to own another piece of NAD gear. warm and polite are like poison to me. i like my onkyo 55wpc 5 channel surround reciever MUCH better than my NAD 50wpc (actual after 3dB headroom) stereo reciever when operating in stereo.
the "cheap" onkyo (seen way too many haters here) images 100X better than that dead muffled NAD ever wishes it could and has much more treble detail.
if you're a ruthlessly detailed treble freak like me... avoid NAD like the plague. get rotel instead. if you too share the more common craving for warmth, then you too might like NAD. i hate it like poison. i spit on NAD *phtooey!*
LOL
if you want some other options in the amplifier bang for the buck category... look into class-d amps and IRD MR-100s or Norh Le Amp IIs.
check the amplifier forum out. i have a thread there titled "class-h" but meand to say "d" in which a few peple weigh in on this technology that's getting mostly rave reviews.
DIY fans love their hypex UCD amps.
personally, i'm going after a panasonic SA-XR 55 or 70 class-d reciever for $240-300 delivered. those units have been getting alot of thumbs up in the bargain basement.
class-d amps are usually reviewed as being super detailed without sounding harsh with their biggest weakness being that they don't like to be rode hard.
food for thought. |
Gold Member Username: T_bomb25
Dayton,
Ohio
United States
Post Number: 1056
Registered: Jun-05
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| Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 07:06 pm: |
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Sorry Eddie still in Texas ill be back Tomorrow and give the review tomorrow,sorry everyone. |
Gold Member Username: Project6
Post Number: 4081
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 03:23 am: |
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Dustin,
The amount of amplifiers you can hook up depends on the receiver. |
