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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 4187
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 01:10 pm: |
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"Yes, good old Francesco, one of the best. ... Shame his mother couldn't hold on till 1685, though, like the others."
Another Italian ahead of his time.
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Gold Member Username: Myrantz
The Land Dow...
Post Number: 2012
Registered: Aug-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 01:20 pm: |
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"Anyone know where I can find a gold star for John?"
Yes! |
Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3239
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 02:31 pm: |
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Thanks, guys. I think Honor Blackman as P_ssy Galore wrote one off, in "Goldfinger", but I could be getting my Bond movies mixed up.
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Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3240
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 02:47 pm: |
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"Well, we all know what happens next; don't we?"
No, not exactly. 1594? |
Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 4193
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 04:05 pm: |
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Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding!!!!!
The man is on a roll! |
Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3241
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 06:51 pm: |
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It is a full moon. Said moon is also unusually close, and low on the horizon.
Sorry, it was a BSA 650cc Lightning, and in Thunderball. Not a Gold Star, in Goldfinger. Wrong bike; wrong movie. I shall now go into hiding. How old I feel. |
Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3242
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 06:56 pm: |
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http://www.matthewrobbinsphoto.com/goldie.html |
Bronze Member Username: Straight_up
Post Number: 44
Registered: Apr-05
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| Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 12:58 am: |
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Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3245
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 04:49 pm: |
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I agree. Their guilt has not been established beyond reasonable doubt. They should have been acquited. |
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Gold Member Username: Myrantz
The Land Dow...
Post Number: 2014
Registered: Aug-04
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| Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 05:03 pm: |
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John
RUALLRITE?
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 4219
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 06:42 pm: |
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I have to agree with John. |
Gold Member Username: Myrantz
The Land Dow...
Post Number: 2015
Registered: Aug-04
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| Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 07:02 pm: |
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Oh well, if you have to! |
Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3248
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 05:19 am: |
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My Rantz,
Yes, thanks! Not getting e-mail notifcations, though. Have updated profile. Too much, there, really. Had another birthday. Where's this Gold Star, then....? |
Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3249
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 05:31 am: |
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Mind you, Google has flipped. Semantic and context-sensitive be b_ggered. Any one else see this in the right panel of this page?
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Gold Member Username: Rick_b
New York
USA
Post Number: 1198
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 05:40 am: |
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Keep an eye on that bunch 'ol dogs.
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! |
Gold Member Username: Myrantz
The Land Dow...
Post Number: 2018
Registered: Aug-04
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| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 07:20 am: |
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Granted - some of we dogs could do with training. Happy B/day John and many more.
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Gold Member Username: Larry_r
Naples,
FL
Post Number: 1072
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 08:45 am: |
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A travel-weary week, but glad to be back. A full military funeral (very impressive!) at Ft. Logan national cemetery in Denver, then a totally unexpected funeral for a Chicago friend - then a shock when I found an old friend/colleague who'd just retired 18-months ago in a near-death condition with Lou Gehrig's disease. Awful, just awful. . .I fervently hope none of us dies that way.
Anyway - good to be home again, and to read what y'all R doing. John A. - congrats on your milestones! Mer and I are just one year ahead of you on the anniversary thang - and of course, I'm YEARS older than you are! (GRIN)
No tube amps or new CD players or speakers - so I'm in one of my "dull" phases. I'll try to keep up with all of your acquisitions, though!
And a fine weekend to all!
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Silver Member Username: John_s
Columbus,
Ohio
US
Post Number: 354
Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 09:21 am: |
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Here ya go John
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Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3252
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 09:40 am: |
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Thanks, all. And welcome back, Larry.
The latest SACD onslaught, for me, is "LSO Live", The London Symphony Orchestra's own label.
http://www.lso.co.uk/recordings/lsolive/
Their Shostakovich 8th Symphony (recorded last November; conductor Mstislav Rostropovich) is one of the best-sounding CDs I have ever heard, and the performance interesting and remarkable from every point of view. And yet, they promise:
The DSD process used for producing SACDs captures more of the nuances from a performance and reproduces them with a clarity and transparency not possible with CD. This pure and natural sound also has a much greater dynamic range than CD, allowing you to experience the full range of emotions and energy only previously possible in a live performance
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Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 4230
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 12:16 pm: |
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So you think they're suggesting CD isn't perfect? Actually I don't think CD ever promised perfect emotions. |
Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3254
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 01:35 pm: |
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Aw, John, you shouldn't have....
A thousand thanks. I shall wear it with pride.
Jan, I don't care how it is done, but I definitely think we should release these captured nuances. What have they ever done to us? |
Gold Member Username: Myrantz
The Land Dow...
Post Number: 2019
Registered: Aug-04
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| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 04:11 pm: |
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"I definitely think we should release these captured nuances. What have they ever done to us?"
John, it time for your enlightenment. Go forth with your billfold and make purchase of the wondrous machine that will liberate the nuances and you will discover it is not what they have done to us but what they will do for us. The next phase in musical nirvana awaits you.
Larry,
Welcome back. Sorry to read of all your bad news. Hope things settle down for Mer and yourself.
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Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3256
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 06:19 pm: |
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Thanks, MR. Short interruption. Mrs A is posting somewhere, too.
The Girl in the Café
Houston Chronicle
IMDB
If it comes your way, watch it. Please. Brilliant at every level. If I read the pages above right, it is on "HBO" at 8 p.m/7 p.m. in US..
Click.
Click.
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Gold Member Username: Rick_b
New York
USA
Post Number: 1203
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 09:14 am: |
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Larry,
I just wanted to welcome you and Mer back. Things have been hectic around the Barnes household lately. I'll fill you in when I have some real time. Stay well.
John,
A belated Happy Birthday my friend. How does it feel to turn 40? LOL! Cheers!
PS-The gold star fits you John. |
Gold Member Username: Larry_r
Naples,
FL
Post Number: 1073
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 01:04 pm: |
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Rick B. - thanks - I'm sure things ARE a bit rough around the edges at your place these days, what with the prospects of a major upheaval and all! Been there - 53 times, starting when I was very young, and lived on Army posts. I remember EVERYTHING painted pea-green! Yuck!
Still going to the Orlando area? I'd love to help some, but I know little of the area. Sorry.
Respectfully to all. . . |
Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3261
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 02:42 pm: |
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Rick,
Thanks. Kind of you to ask!
Let me see, now, turniing 40. Hmmm...
A quiet word. "Tube Talk" was great, and thank you. I am converted, as you know.
But I think the World is not ready, yet, for "Horn Talk". The robots are reading every word....
There are limits. |
Gold Member Username: Kegger
Warren,
MICHIGAN
Post Number: 2485
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 02:17 am: |
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John, Happy birthday there buddy!
Larry glad to see your back and feel for yu with all that's happened.
The rest of the dog's, yu know I love yu! |
Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3266
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 05:00 am: |
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Just to say "Hi" Kegger! And Thanks!
Nice post of yours on Tube Talk, but it needs no reply from me. I have just "upgraded" so am not ready yet to join the SET set. (My e-mail notification has stopped, too).
Keep up the good work!
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Silver Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 944
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 08:15 am: |
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40 hmm, you're lucky I do the 45 thing on the 4th of July. Where does the time go. Next week I'll be vacationing in my usual place..Seattle. Love that city. Great audio stores, though I'm not sure there as good as Portland's. I like listening to the Wilson's at Definitive Audio.
http://www.definitive.com/
But for now it's off to work. |
Silver Member Username: Sem
New York
USA
Post Number: 488
Registered: Mar-04
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 08:27 am: |
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John A.
(Another) Happy Birthday!! They sure seem to be coming fast and furious now days don't they?
Larry,
Welcome back. My thoughts are with you and Mer, and hoping things settle down now for you all.
Kegger,
Good to see you still poke your head in here once in a while.
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Gold Member Username: Larry_r
Naples,
FL
Post Number: 1074
Registered: Oct-04
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 08:32 am: |
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Kegger - thanks for the kind words. This forum is full of "class act" folk, which I certainly appreciate!
Art K - Yes - love Seattle! Slurp up a bowl at Ivar's Acres of Clams for me, OK? Still, it's hard to beat Portland - and "the" bookstore! Friends still push me to move out there, but my good wife says "no" to gray, misty skies. Sigh.
A new load of CDs coming from Amazon in a week or so, and will post reviews on "Discoveries" thread in Music, though it's probably not the sort of music y'all like (John A. excepted).
Respectfully. . .
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Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3268
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 02:01 pm: |
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Art; No, I passed forty some years ago. Rick has this running joke about people passing forty. Kegger has it coming up soon, really, I think.
Larry; I look forward to your "Discoveries" posts. The MTT/SFSO Mahler 2 Two Cents liked is everywhere, and premium-priced; I think £27, here. Another SACD hybrid (What are we missing....?). I played my Blomstedt/SFSO 1992 version Decca CD yesterday and thought the sound was great. They had a Solti/LPO 1966 Decca recording on the radio today. It was badly compressed; you could just here them turning down the loud bits - on the recording, not the radio. Maybe the art of sound recording is improving in some genres like big orchestral music. See also my post June 25, above re orchestras and SACD.... Just to add balance, I have also listened to Sgt Pepper and "We will rock you", recently. I am enjoying my new-old stereo system. |
Silver Member Username: Two_cents
Post Number: 628
Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 03:53 pm: |
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Welcome back, Larry. Very good to hear from you, despite all the sad news. You've been missed.
John A.,
The MTT/SFSO Mahler 2 is an outstanding recording, really reference level quality. The dynamics are probably the best I've ever heard on a recording. The range from quiet to loud passages is huuuge (as Larry can attest to), but still as not as convincing as a live performance.
The Solti recording of Mahler 2 from the 60's on Decca/London is outstanding for other reasons. The sound is warm and detailed especially on vinyl, the acoustical air and ambience are all there, and the soundstage is excellent. But you're right about the dynamics, which pales in comparison to the SFSO SACD.
Both performances are among the better ones imho. The Rattle/CBSO Mahler 2 unfortunately is all digital and even on vinyl sounds, er, digital. Bernstein's later account on DG is also outstanding and the sound isn't half-bad for a DG digital recording. |
Silver Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 957
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 09:25 pm: |
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I have the '63 Klemperer Mahler 2nd and enjoy it immensely. With Elisabeth Schwarzkopf and Hilde Rossi Majdan it seems to have the right balance for Mahler. This really is Klemperer at his best. |
Silver Member Username: Two_cents
Post Number: 631
Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 02:24 am: |
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Art,
cd or lp? |
Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3271
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 04:08 am: |
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Thanks, 2c. I nearly bought the Rattle/CBSO Mahler 2 yesterday, just to compare. I have their Mahler 1 and that is very good. SFSO under Blomstedt in Mahler 2 has outstanding dynamic range. Rattle is recording a new Mahler cycle with Berlin Philharmonic orchestra on EMI. Not sure they have done 2 yet. The Solti recording, which I heard on the radio, certainly had great soundstage and playing (quite 1960s - vibrato on trumpets and things). I just got annoyed at the engineer changing the volume all the time. The climaxes were turned down 6 dB or so, and had no power or intensity. What a thing to do to Gus!
Art; Klemperer? Schwarzkopf? You trump us all! Welcome to Old Dogs! Say "LP" and there are bonus points... Looking forward to your forthcoming promotion to "Gold"!
I still fall short of loving Mahler, but the symphonies are real challenges for recording engineers and playback equipment. Maybe I have not heard them as intended, and should go to a live Mahler concert... (Thread from Jan; Do you listen) |
Silver Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 969
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 07:53 am: |
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CD I'm afraid. I don't have a turntable. Next year perhaps. More on Mahler later, I'm late getting ready for work. |
Silver Member Username: Two_cents
Post Number: 633
Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 11:33 am: |
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I haven't heard Klemperer's account of M2, but will seek it out. I give him credit for recording Mahler back in the early 60's. Very few conductors included Mahler in their repertoire at the time, unlike today. I recently picked up his Beethoven cycle from the same era. Definitely old school. Schwarzkopf belongs in a perfect world.
The Rattle/BPO Mahler 5 DVD-A is outstandanding in every respect. Performance, sound, and packaged with a DVD-V. I believe John A. tipped me off to this disc. |
Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 4264
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 11:35 am: |
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"What a thing to do to Gus!"
Maybe he just didn't understand Gus. Misunderstood Mahler; now there's a concept!
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Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3274
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 12:37 pm: |
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...probably Alma would have had something to say about toning down his climaxes.
Two Cents, thanks for remembering! My problem with that disc is that it has no two-channel. I find that if I set the player to mix-down 5.1 then everything sounds a mush, on all DVD-As. This is another reason I am weakening on the subject of SACD. Curiously, SACD is now touted as good (for example by Linn) because it is 5.1, not because it is Hi-Res. That's like saying the CD made stereo possible. I don't understand these guys. |
Silver Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 975
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 03:48 pm: |
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I have the Klemperer/Beethoven symphony cycle. I also have Kleiber's Beethoven 5th as well as bunch of others such as Harnoncourt, Walter etc. I have a couple Mahler 5th's that I enjoy but I'm at work and don't have access to them. I know that one of them is MTT on SACD. I really never enjoyed Mahler until a few years ago. I was lying in bed listening to this marvelous orchestral piece on KWAX (the local classical station) and I found it so compelling that I just had to go out and buy it. It was the Mahler 5th. That night for soem reason I just "got it". I'm still working on Bruckner. |
Gold Member Username: Jan_b_vigne
Dallas,
TX
Post Number: 4270
Registered: May-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 05:30 pm: |
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Start with the Bruckner 7th. After listening to that piece you will either commit suicide or think Bruckner might be interesting. Obviously I chose the latter. |
Gold Member Username: Myrantz
The Land Dow...
Post Number: 2038
Registered: Aug-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 06:08 pm: |
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Well I purchased the DVD/DVD-A of Rattle's Mahler 5th on Mr A's recommendation. I quite enjoyed it for the first couple of listens (something different for me) but quickly tired from it thereafter. To me it had a 'soundtrack' feel - reminding me of Disney cartoons or the Roadrunner. I'll stick with my jazz, blues and some older R&R, but I'm still keen to find a couple of worthy hi-res clasiical discs - even if it is only for when I may need to breathe air higher than my status allows [grin].
We count our blessings this morning: severe winds and heavy rain brought down a huge tree beside our house. It wrecked only the clothes line, a couple of metres of fencing, fell laterally to the house and missed my car by three feet. At about 2.15 am Mrs Rantz woke in shock from the loud 'crack' and went to investigate. Not wanting to wake me because of my sleeping disorders, she let me be and informed of the news a few hours later when the alarm clock sounded. I didn't hear a thing!
I am now housebound until the rain stops and I can get to the mess with the electric chainsaw. Luckilly Mrs Rantz parked her car at our driveway entrance last evening because of the weather (the driveway often washes out with heavy rain). That's number 2
Number 1: I was told a couple of days ago that the remainder of my upper teeth have to go. A full upper plate is required and I'll have to keep my mouth shut from view for about a month before fitting the new plate. I'm only in my early fifties for Eric's sake - Great!
Okay number three - bring it on!
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Silver Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 977
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 09:08 pm: |
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Oh Jan don't misunderstand I own the entire Bruckner symphony cycle I just don't enjoy it as much as I do Mahler. Actually right now I'm a bit of an anglophile. The composer whose works I have really enjoyed of late have been Arnold Bax. I have his complete symphony cycles both on Naxos and Chandos. Wonderful music with great a deal of color and moodiness, love it. I'm home now so I can say that my other Mahler 5th is Karajan's "73 version. My Rantz, jazz and classical are my passion. I absolutely love Miles Davis. I'm sorry to hear about your teeth...ouch! |
Gold Member Username: Myrantz
The Land Dow...
Post Number: 2044
Registered: Aug-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 09:30 pm: |
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Art,
Thanks - FYI: for Erik's sake - a running joke here from "Clapton is God"
Maybe I'll go and play "Kind of Blue"
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Silver Member Username: Sem
New York
USA
Post Number: 490
Registered: Mar-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 11:15 pm: |
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Rantz,
Sorry to hear about the teeth. Hope all ends up well there. Word of caution - careful with that ax, Eugene, err My Rantz. LOL. No, really be careful with the electric chainsaw, stay clear of the puddles or it may really be tough to wake you from your slumber.
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Gold Member Username: Myrantz
The Land Dow...
Post Number: 2045
Registered: Aug-04
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 11:44 pm: |
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Sem
LOL! Thanks mate! Yes I'll be very careful - especially at my age [grin]. There are things that provide many challenges in our lives. Actually event number three was most likely number 1 - it was virtually confirmed the other day even though there are more tests to be carried out - it seems my father has alzheimers (which we have presumed for a while now) so there will be much to be done very soon to organise care for my parents. My mother, with her many disabilities, will in no way be able to care for him let alone herself. Perhaps my brother was a little perceptive in living a few thousand miles away. Old age should not be a punishment for living - what's wrong with our world? Okay, I'll stop the whining, we can at least thank Eric for the music.
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Gold Member Username: John_a
London
U.K.
Post Number: 3277
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 12:03 am: |
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My Rantz,
Please accept my condolences, too. Also, Sem is right - those are dangerous gadgets. But you will know what you are doing, I am sure. Unlike Eugene. Find a less serious number three! As I said before, Mahler is jumping in at the deep end.
Art,
Interesting to read that. I have a couple of small-scale things on record by Bax, but don't think I have ever heard a symphony. He has devoted fans and a even society, I remember, but I thought he was not "international". I read that Mahler was obscure and hardly ever performed, or recorded, until the 60s. Time for a Bax revival...?! |
Gold Member Username: Myrantz
The Land Dow...
Post Number: 2047
Registered: Aug-04
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 12:17 am: |
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John
Thanks - re Mahler, I still listen occassionally but only in small doses. Yes, I know there is much more classical music to enjoy, but this thing called time . . .
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Silver Member Username: Artk
Albany,
Oregon
USA
Post Number: 1000
Registered: Feb-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 09:52 pm: |
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Well fella's with all the crap that happens at various places on this site I wanted my 1000th post to be here. This is one place where civility doesn't seem to have gone out of style. Long live this thread. Cheers! |
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