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Bronze Member Username: Moorejh
Post Number: 24
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 11:44 pm: |
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Ok, I am getting ready to make a purchase on a receiver. I have all but decided to get a NAD T773 but I have read a couple of rants lately about speakers humming or hissing. Is this something I should worry about?
If so I am also looking at an HK 7300 as an alternative. I will be making a purchase next Thursday when my OT check arrives so I have about a week left and so I need to decide by then.
I welcome all comments and suggestions. |
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Silver Member Username: Johnny
Missouri
Post Number: 558
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 09:28 am: |
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Jay,
You really can't go wrong with either machine. Both are absolutely wonderful, and are some of the best receivers out there. Both are LOADED with power, and both sound great. I own NAD and obviously prefer that sound, but you may prefer HK. I like the detail and clarity that NAD provides. In my opinion, HK can't offer this type of clarity...at least not on the same level as NAD. Audition and see which you like better. A lot of your decision should be based on what kind of speakers you have too. HK receivers are warm sounding, and thus sound best when paired with a brighter speaker. NAD recievers are fairly neutral sounding, and really can be paired successfully with many quality speakers.
I wouldn't worry about any of the NAD hiss/hum reports. I think those reports were greatly overblown. It is true that some had legitimate problems. I am sure you have heard the phrase "a happy customer will go tell 2 of his friends...an unhappy customer will go tell 10 of his friends". I have had several dealers who I trust very much state that they have had no problems with NAD receivers. I spoke with one NAD dealer (who is one of the largest NAD dealers in the midwest) who said that over the past 2 years they have had only 2 units returned...and one of those was because someone spilled beer on top of the unit.
So, I would feel confident buying either. It simply comes down to your preferences in the sound. |
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 12:53 pm: |
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Sorry to be off-topic,
Johnny I am in the Midwest, what dealer is that you are referring as I am looking into NAD?
Thanks |
Silver Member Username: Johnny
Missouri
Post Number: 559
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 02:20 pm: |
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Two dealers whom I have had a very good relationship are Saturday Audio Exchange in Chicago and Kiefs in Lawrence, KS. Both stores offer excellent prices and have a knowledgeable staff...and both are authorized NAD dealers. In fact, neither take internet orders...you have to call them and speak to them before they will ship anything. You will be hardpressed to find cheaper prices on A stock NAD.
These are just the two that I have had personal dealings with. There are many others out there though...check on NAD's website. I think there is also an NAD dealer in Kansas City, MO, but I have never been there. |
Silver Member Username: Johnny
Missouri
Post Number: 560
Registered: Dec-03
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 02:23 pm: |
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Oh yeah, if you want to check out their websites, here they are.
www.saturdayaudio.com
www.kiefs.com |
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 03:48 pm: |
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I have dealt with Kief's and recommend them with no hesitation. Great people. And the best way to get a NAD at a good price.
Just one request. Please don't go audition at your local NAD dealer and then order from Kief's for a discounted price. This would be a very unethical thing to do and eventually results in manufacturers clamping down on such mail-order sales. |
Bronze Member Username: Moorejh
Post Number: 25
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 12:34 am: |
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Thanks for the comments Johnny! I just got off the phone with a friend of mine that I havent talked to in a while who is a self proclaimed audiophile. Quoting him "I am an idiot if I choose anything but the NAD in that price range". So between the 2 of you I have decided to get the T773 and not look back. Thanks again! |
Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucks
Post Number: 1322
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 01:18 am: |
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Nevermind the hissing....
Watch out for the humming and buzzing.
OUCHL |
New member Username: Rob_visscher
Netherlands
Post Number: 5
Registered: Feb-04
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 06:23 am: |
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Hi Jay,
Don't worry about the humming and hissing (anymore)
If you can afford it go for it!
Hissing and humming were problems in the first edition of the T7x3 ( I returned 3 T753's a year ago before getting a modified one without the humming, and with the last modification in the processor (which I'm having done right now), the hissing should also be over.
If you buy a new unit now, you should have no problems at all.
Also in my specific experience, when I bought new speakers, the hiss was much less than before.
The humming was the biggest problemand that is all solved long ago.
Rob Visscher
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:45 am: |
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I went to my dealer and noticed that humming is gone but the hissing is still there. Jay why don't you call NAD toll free to verify it and the best way is listen to it before you buy.
Good luck |
Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucks
Post Number: 1398
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:51 am: |
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On the other hand, it could be viewed as a positive. Some people might enjoy a light hissing sound in the background to add character to whatever they're listening too. |
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 01:13 pm: |
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Paul, now you have started talking to yourself? |
Bronze Member Username: Canuckinapickle
Toronto
Canada
Post Number: 88
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 04:14 pm: |
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Jay I'm sure you'll be happy with your NAD. I have a 753 and I love it. Of course I'd like the one you're getting even more ;)
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Bronze Member Username: Moorejh
Post Number: 26
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 05:20 pm: |
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Hissing or no hissing I ordered it today. I cant wait for it to get here! |
Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucks
Post Number: 1403
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 05:33 pm: |
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Good luck......
The 773 looks like one of their better models.
If it does hiss, you could always listen to "Riders on the Storm'. The rainfall in that track should drown out any background noise |
Gold Member Username: Edster922
Abubala,
Ababala
The Occupation
Post Number: 1007
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 08:26 pm: |
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YES you do exist, Paul! You do exist! And we all love you very much!!! |
Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucks
Post Number: 1428
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 12:35 pm: |
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C'mon eddie.
Stop acting so weird. |
New member Username: Ht_addict
Post Number: 9
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 10:55 pm: |
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Jay, I got a NAD T773 about 6wks ago, and it had a problem with hiss/hum. Contacted NAD and after a few emails back and forth, ended up going down to Lenbrook headoffice an picked up a new unit. Hiss/hum is gone. |
Gold Member Username: Edster922
Abubala,
Ababala
The Occupation
Post Number: 1036
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 12:33 am: |
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hey Paul, you oughta be payin' me for all that free therapy I'm givin' ya!
Feel free to PM me your credit card info, heh. |
Bronze Member Username: Kingfish
Post Number: 89
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 01:14 pm: |
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Every amp I've had always had a little hiss. I have a NAD T773 Jay. Its wonderful and I love the sound. The humm/hiss problem source was identified quite awhile ago now, down to a certain circuit board in the T753. I tried out one that had the problem and that when I found out they had a batch that had these bad boards after I talked to NAD. Don't worry, no more bad ones. You'll be getting the firmware version 2 also, which has some nice features in the settings. Nad sounds great, you'll love the clarity and the ease of use. I've had mine now since August 2004. Its great. You will have a little hiss at high volume (when idle) which is normal for any amp. Enjoy! |
Silver Member Username: Stu_pitt
NYC,
NY
Pakistan
Post Number: 175
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 04:36 pm: |
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If every amp you've had has a little hiss, it may not be the amp at all. It may be your power. Have you tried a power conditioner? |
Silver Member Username: Danman
QUEBEC
CANADA
Post Number: 246
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 06:43 pm: |
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I agree. I think you have an electric problem somewhere. My dealer told me once that if this happens, eliminate one cord at a time and usually your problem can be found. Sometimes one connection is the problem. |
Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucks
Post Number: 1493
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 09:04 pm: |
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Imagine going through life 'only' owning NAD recievers, and thinking the hiss you were hearing was normal. |
Silver Member Username: Stu_pitt
NYC,
NY
Pakistan
Post Number: 184
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| Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 09:09 pm: |
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Imagine going through life 'only' owning Cerwin Vegas and thinking the Orange Ring looked cool. |
Silver Member Username: Joe_c
Oakwood,
Ga
Post Number: 514
Registered: Mar-05
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| Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 09:10 pm: |
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That made me laugh lol! |
Silver Member Username: Stu_pitt
NYC,
NY
Pakistan
Post Number: 187
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 09:18 pm: |
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I know we shouldn't take shots at each other. There's been a lot of that lately, but I couldn't hold back... he set himself up for that. |
Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucks
Post Number: 1494
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 09:23 pm: |
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Hey C'mon.....
Those orange rings "ARE" cool.
HEH |
New member Username: Ht_addict
Post Number: 10
Registered: May-05
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| Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 09:32 pm: |
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Hiss is commom in toroidal based power units, which the NAD has. I also heard hiss in my Rotel RMB-1095 and 1066 when they were in my setup. And like the NAD your ear has to be right up next to the tweeter to hear. |
Silver Member Username: Danman
QUEBEC
CANADA
Post Number: 256
Registered: Apr-04
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| Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 09:49 pm: |
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You know it's strange that my dealer that sells NAD never has these hissing problems! Maybe it's only the Internet companies that are not linked with the company that are selling bad stuff! |
Bronze Member Username: Kingfish
Post Number: 90
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 11:30 pm: |
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Stu,
I've been into electronics since I was a kid. Every amp has a certain amount of hiss. Ever stood close to a speaker with your ear somewhat close to it? Its normal. Yes I do have a line conditioner. Thanks for concern. |
Silver Member Username: Diablo
Fylde Coast, England
Post Number: 135
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 12:50 am: |
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Paul,
I'd rather have a NAD when the music is "hissing", than a Yamaha where the music is "missing". 
p.s. My NAD doesn't hiss, anyway. |
Bronze Member Username: Kingfish
Post Number: 91
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 12:59 am: |
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Yamaha was a good product. You get what you pay for. I had many years of enjoyment with Yamaha. I wanted to take my system up to the next level. Nad did it for me. Its a beaut. |
Silver Member Username: Diablo
Fylde Coast, England
Post Number: 136
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 01:15 am: |
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Keith,
I had a moderately priced Yamaha receiver for a while and it was okay - it was better for music than my previous $1800 Onkyo, for example.
I was mainly having a go at Paul for ranting about a product, NAD, which he has never heard - and who doesn't even listen to music.
I'll be slated by Onkyo fans next. lol |
Bronze Member Username: Kingfish
Post Number: 93
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 01:29 am: |
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A bit of chivalry does the heart good. You don't hear any hiss? Get a hearing aid...oh please. What, do you turn it up to -30? |
Silver Member Username: Diablo
Fylde Coast, England
Post Number: 137
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 01:38 am: |
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Keith,
I sometimes have the volume at +6 for some sources. At max +12 with no source I get a very low hum from the fronts.
If you get anything much different then take it back for repair or replacement!
Regards,
diablo (with no known hearing problem) |
Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucks
Post Number: 1507
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 01:44 am: |
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Diablo,
Good one.....
And yes, I've listened to NAD receivers before. Not any of their recent models though. Have you ever bought a product, or had a friend who owned one that turned out to be junk, and because of that, you never again considered even giving that brand the slightest consideration???
Well.....
I have, and it was called NAD. |
Bronze Member Username: Kingfish
Post Number: 94
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 01:47 am: |
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No Hum here at any level. Was so glad after unpacking and hooking the web of wires, I had no humm, like I had with the test drive of T753.
BTW, I was talking about hiss. |
Bronze Member Username: Kingfish
Post Number: 95
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 01:54 am: |
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Paul, my local rep let me take 2 Nad's home. Try it yourself. |
Silver Member Username: Diablo
Fylde Coast, England
Post Number: 138
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 01:58 am: |
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Paul,
Sorry, I wasn't aware that you had heard the brand, I mis-remembered your recent statement "I havnt listened to the NAD and probably never will for the same reason that I wouldnt consider buying certain brands of TVs regardless of how great their pictures are." as a reference to all NAD products. Which I accept as being illogical on my part.
Keith,
I have no problems with hiss either. Do you have such problems? Which model do you have? |
Bronze Member Username: Kingfish
Post Number: 96
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 02:02 am: |
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Paul, no problems such as you do. Hiss only becomes prevalant after they are switched on into speakers. |
Bronze Member Username: Kingfish
Post Number: 97
Registered: Sep-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 02:07 am: |
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Sorry Paul, wrong name.
diablo, no problems such as you do. Hiss only becomes prevalant after they are switched on into speakers. |
Gold Member Username: Paul_ohstbucks
Post Number: 1509
Registered: Jan-05
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 02:07 am: |
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Diablo,
I knew someone who owned a lemon and something was always going wrong with it, so I never really considered that brand for myself. It is true that I havent listened to any of their new surround technology, and probably never will unless it's by accident. Im sure you understand how things like that work out sometimes. |
Silver Member Username: Diablo
Fylde Coast, England
Post Number: 139
Registered: Dec-04
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| Posted on Friday, July 01, 2005 - 02:26 am: |
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Keith,
I have never had any problems with hiss. It is much the same as any other amp I have ever heard, in that if,with the volume high, you put an ear within 3 inches of a tweeter, either with no source, or between tracks, then you will hear some hiss.
Hiss from a normal listening position is either a fault or already present on the source.
Paul,
I quite understand. I am totally biased against Onkyo and Tag McLaren. Possibly without reason - though I doubt it. |
